"is it better than pure?"
Gameplayer has gone live with their review of MotorStorm: Pacific Rift which released in Australia today. They put it up against the similarly themed Pure.
"But can its highly anticipated sequel achieve the same feats? Well, not really. With Pacific Rift, the initial shock of playing a dyed in the wool next-gen title has been replaced with a comfortable familiarity, that feels good, plays good, and, to a certain extent, looks good, but doesn't really have the power to expand the horizons of gaming in the same manner its predecessor did."
Digital Foundry : Evolution Studios' Motorstorm is one of the first, finest and most fondly remembered of launch titles for PlayStation 3. It's a release designed to answer the question posed by each new console generation: what makes a game 'next-gen'? With its robust physics engine and massive tracks, Motorstorm serves up a bold affirmative answer to this question, delivering an experience that could never have existed on prior console hardware. At the same time, the path to release was fraught with challenges that almost serve as a microcosm of the PlayStation 3 release situation itself. It was a success, however, with a trilogy of PS3 releases, plus PSP, Vita and even PS2 off-shoots.
After Driveclub and Onrush, the dev team will now contribute to and assist with the development of the upcoming NFS.
I would give anything to have a full compilation of the series remastered to play on PS5 with full DS support. Feeling the deformation of the tracks as you race in pacific rift or the snow laden tracks in arctic edge... that would be sweet.
Yes MotorStorm World Tour for PS5 damn it Sony make it. The Desert, Pacific Islands, The Arctic and City races.
Motorstorm Pacific rift was awesome! I think MotorStorm: Apocalypse was what killed the franchise due to its change of direction...
Pacific rift is the best (IMO) but apocalypse wasnt what killed it. At least it was still somewhat of a MS game. The RC one is really a departure from the norm. None of which were bad as they were all fun in their own ways.
RC was a blast to play on Vita.
Apocalypse had unfortunate timing due to the 3/11 earthquake in Japan. I never got around to playing that one.
Evolution had some harsh experiences. I had Driveclub from launch and the server issues weren't that bad and certainly didn't prevent you from enjoying the game.
Agree Apocalypse didn't kill it, it's just racing games in general just became less popular nearing the end of the PS360 generation as it was flooded with medicore racers and the extremely niche but enjoyable ones like Motorstorm, Blur, Spilt Second, and Forza Horizon (still going strong, but actual sales have been decent fro a racer, and often expanded by console bundles and now GamePass)
But since the PS4/XBO generation had a lack of arcade racers, it's a prime time for games like this to come back.
I've said for the longest, the additional income of PS+ Premium should be used for, Remastering, Remaking, or recreating sequels / spinoffs of classic PS franchises to launch into the service. Many PS3 games fit this mold of looking good enough that a quick remaster to 4K@60 with better texture maps would give them near PS4 quality.
Remasters: A game like Motorstorm look good enough where it can simply be remastered in 4K @ 60fps, and have better textures for mud, mountains/rock structures, and vehicles and it would hold up WELL.
Remakes: Games like Legend of Dragoon, Warhawk (could be a simple remaster also), and so many others could get remakes like FF7.
Recreates: Shorter sequels/prequels/spin-offs to other classic PS IPs like how Infamous First Light / Blood Festival (BF was a highly underrated vampire game) and Uncharted Lost Legacy. Give spin-offs to things like Heavenly Sword, The Order 1886 (1786 or 1986), Puppeteer, Tokyo Jungle, and more.
This is also why Sone NEEDS to get PS3 emulation up and running. It gets rid of all the PS3 server farms and replaces it with software that can work on EVERY future PS console with updated coding.
At bare minimum emulation could double the resolution and framerates of all PS3 games making many of them 1440p@60fps without any real work, and a few 4k@60fps.
As for full-on remakes again updating to 4K@60fps with completely revamped textures, and an option for 1440p@60fps with global illumination can make these games shine with a new lease on life.
Also I'm still waiting on my DriveClub 1440p@60fps update 😭
Apocalypse was actually pretty good i don't think that's what killed the series. PR was the best though.
I was late to PS3 and Pacific Rift was the first game I picked up on it... huge miss to not have one on PS4, hope it gets some love on PS5 (as well as Ridge Racer and Wipeout).
Never really got into it myself I remember getting it with ps3 and being a bit underwhelmed I preferred the RC version they did for vita 🙌🏻🤣
Going from ps2 to ps3 was not underwhelming when I first played motorstorm, it was like nothing we'd ever seen before ?
Each to their own didn’t like it myself. 🤷🏻♂️✌🏻 ;I didn’t say going from ps2/3 was underwhelming just the launch game motorstorm, bit different but hey ho.
PS3 was a slow burner for me it’s my least favourite Sony console, maybe as I had my 360 as my main at that point but yeah wasn’t impressed with first couple of years to be honest but that’s just me. Once uncharted MGS4 GT5 Last of us GTA4/5 dropped sure but launch games weren’t all that imo. Resistance was alright wasn’t as big a change as ps4 or even now ps5 for me. PS3 took out rumble and basically went HD it’s wasn’t exactly a revolutionary start. 🤷🏻♂️✌🏻 ;
DSOGaming writes: "RPCS3 is the best emulator for Sony’s previous-gen console, the Playstation 3, and we’ve decided to share some videos, showing Dante’s Inferno, God of War 3, Sly 3, P5 Persona, Motorstorm Pacific Rift, Hajime no Ippo: The Fighting, Super Hero Generations and more running on its latest version."
Funny how people were saying impossible yet some random developer is managing to do it. Give it few more years and you will see greater improvements and compatibility.
Yeah
imagine Sony taking more than 10 years developing a PS3 emulator that is still not perfect...
It's crazy how accurate I was with the time frame of having actual good running PS3 emulation (2020)
Once Sony ultimately proves it doesn't care about its actual fans but other worthless stuff, like censorship, I'm going to start saving for a good gaming PC.
Lol, look at the specs of the PC they used for the Emulator, Intet I9 9900K and a MSI RTX2080TI.
Good luck saving at least 2000€ for a PS3 Emulator.
Yes, because PC parts never get cheaper and the emulator isn't being constantly optimized to work better.
Also, I'd rather pay extra for personal freedom and a much better performance than to support some communist bastards.
DSOGaming writes: "YouTube’s ‘reznoire’ and ‘Emulators for PC’ have shared some new videos from the latest version of the Playstation 3 emulator, RPCS3, showing Heavy Rain, MotorStorm: Pacific Rift and Spiderman 3 running in it."
Not the point. I for one want Metal Gear Solid 4 in minimum native 1080p and 60FPS. On PS3 it ran 1024 x 768 and about 25FPS.
So the only way that ever looks like happening is via emulation. Good work is being done on RPCS3.
Ain't happening. You'll get 1080P but the frame rate won't run at 60 fps. Emulators don't work that way as PC games does. Not a single emulator has been able to override a 30 fps game to run at 60 fps ... actual 60 frames.
"Ain't happening. You'll get 1080P but the frame rate won't run at 60 fps. Emulators don't work that way"
WRONGGGGG!!!!
@ MarioJP87 Lol sorry but go back to your console, you know nothing about PC emulation. I have run countless console titles that originally ran at 30FPS on PC emulators with a full fat 60FPS refresh. Countless! I suggest you google for Zelda BOTW emulation, where it's easy to have 50FPS+ for a game usually running 30 or below on Switch. https://www.youtube.com/wat... Just the other day I ran 25FPS PS2 game Metal Gear Solid 3 at 1080/60FPS on PCSX2 https://www.youtube.com/wat... ......two examples.
It is true some games are designed with critical parts of the engine locked to frame rate, but most actually aren't. Probably 98 percent aren't. This is because many console games don't remain locked to 30FPS, so unless you hit the 30FPS you have problems elsewhere.
Whats more some of the ones that do have stuff like animation and physics locked to a 30FPS pacing occasionally have work around options baked into an advanced emulator.
MGS3 is one of those with specific configuration for 60FPS, AND it even has analogue button controller support to boot! Not even the Xbox 360 remaster has that!
Thank you for schooling him, ProjectVulcan! I was like...wtf is this guy talking about? haha Someone has never used an emulator before I guess.
By that logic you might as well not play any console exclusive from this gen since one day it will possibly be playable in native 4k, 144hz.
Yeah its a fact that the higher the res and frame rate the better, but waiting for all these years while the graphics themselves start to become outdated seems like one step forward, two steps back.
@marioJP87
One of the benefits of emulation is the ability to run at higher resolutions and smoother framerates. I can assure you I've run many console games at 60fps which normally run far below that. ProjectVulcan is correct about everything he said.
@Father__Merrin
I don't want to have yet another console cluttering up the area around my TV. I don't really have the space for it to be honest. Backwards compatibility should be a normal feature for any gaming device. But emulation brings lots of additional benefits anyway.
Show me a YouTube video with all of your claims and I will retract my comment. I've been emulating for years on PC, PS3 in its linux days and android. I know what I'm talking about. You claim 98% of emulated games? Show me proof. What can you provide besides MGS?
What other emulators do you claim are capable of this?
Erm, most emulators are capable of it. DEMUL, PCSX2, Dolphin, Project64, ePSXe etc etc.....
I showed you two games that emulate at higher frame rates than on their native platforms. One is enough to prove the point. Pick either. Find videos of the other ten thousand yourself, it is not difficult.
It's a fact and you really don't know anything about emulation if you think that you cannot emulate console games to run faster! That's patently not true to anyone that has genuinely emulated console games on PC before.
Bull crap. I've been running dolphin for years on my laptop. I'm currently running it on my GTX 965m. I damn sure cant run resident evil 4 at 60 fps and I mean real 60 fps, not 60 frames with a locked 30 fps. I cant run "The Warriors" or "Manhunt" on PCSX2 at 60 fps.
Now if you can show me just a 30 second video of you running RE4 at 60 fps using dolphin, then I will admit to you being right and me being wrong.
Shhhhh. Let the master race who claim to have a better game platform try and find ways to illegally play better games.
Huh? Most people have played these games before and want to replay them on higher settings. Those who haven't won't enjoy them as much without nostalgia anyway.
Emulation is not illegal. This shouldn't have to be pointed out here, it should be common knowledge even to knuckle dragging mouth breathers.
They get all the PC games, PLUS the ability to play console games. Sounds like master race to me!
Poor Heavy Rain lol that game was and is a pile. Emulation sounds cool though - Res. Evil 3 and Directors Cut all the way.
Know that would be a great collection of games for sure. My only gripe with these games was how difficult they got by the time you were two thirds of the way through the campaign.
So games run at 10 fps and graphical glitches not seen since pcsx2 in 2003,.. I will get there someday.
"But the major flaw with MotorStorm Pacific Rift, and the main reason the score isn’t higher than alternative off-road racer Pure (read our review), is to do with the overall visual quality of the game. This will surprise many, since the original set an initial benchmark for the PS3, but in many ways Pacific Rift is a real visual disappointment. Texture for texture, vehicle model for vehicle model, plenty of other racers (such as aforementioned Pure and Race Driver: GRID) blow Evolution’s baby out of the water, and frame-rate judders are frequent. For a game that made its name from high end visual fidelity, MotorStorm Pacific Rift fails to meet the high expectations set by fans."
IMO Pure is more fun to play. That's why I would rate it higher. Graphics don't mean anything if the game is boring, but it's a plus if it has both.
Motorstorm looks overall better thean pure. Better lightning, no bloom and more real. Pure looks like bugs bunny
I like the pure racing of MS: PR. The tricks and single vehicle class of Pure isn't my cup of tea.
Graphically they are quite different too. Pure looks very good, but a bit cartoony with all the bloom effect and so on.
MSPR is by far and away the better looking racer... They're saying this cause Pure has a fighters chance on the xbox 360 and it doesn't on the Ps3. MSPR is the best game I've played this year online... Warhawk excluded of course. Resistance 2 might be the better overall game, but Motorstorm PR is tons more fun to play online.
It looks incredible. It plays incredible and it controls like a dream... It takes everything MS did and ups it x's 10. I don't like MS1 by the way.
Pure looks better imo, i've seen both games side by side in a gaming show in Paris and Pure simply looked better, though I guess noone could pretend any of these 2 games have a significant advantage over the other one.. in the end MSPR is a great game but probably not an exclusive that makes a lot of player envious (and it's not exactly on the path to outsell MS1), actually Wipeout is a much better exclusive imo.