Mandatory: "Killzone was supposed to take PlayStation's popularity to new heights. Fifteen years ago, Sony released the video game with the intention of killing one of the biggest franchises in gaming, but it didn't quite work out that way."
The first Killzone game never met lofty expectations of dethroning Xbox’s Halo, but if any game needs a PS5 remake, this is the one.
I like Halo, but I don't think there is any need for a 'Halo Killer' at this point. If anything, the franchise is slowly undermining itself by making some of the dumbest mistakes possible. Infinite has finally reached a good point in terms of multiplayer, but it took an extra 2 years to get there. Meanwhile, the single-player experience is fine but rather mediocre when compared to the franchise peak.
That said, I would like to see the Killzone franchise back, if anything, to offer more variety to the PS5 exclusive catalog.
sony should remaster all killzone games and bring back killzone multiplayer that is very similar to the style of killzone 2 multiplayer.
Halo killed itself after Halo Reach.
Killzone went a little down in quality with SF on PS4 and I wish they kept them coming..
I'd love a killzone trilogy, fully remastered on a single disc like they did with Uncharted. Maybe they could make it the full killzone saga including PSP and Vita games converted to console.
Yes please. Put me down for a copy, price irrelevant too. Loved allow those games in the franchise :)
I've never liked the idea of a 'franchise killer', why can't both thrive, without one killing off the other? Its such a childish mentality.
That being said, if there ever was a true 'Halo killer', then it would have to be 343 Studios, and the Xbox division. They're doing a fine job killing off their own IP, apparently.
@eonjay
Yeah and I still cringe super hard when IGN runs their next gen console watch segment 3 years into the consoles lifecycle we are approaching midgen likely by December and they are out there milking clicks like it's mid 2020 and were starved for information
Halo doesn't need to be killed, they've done that themselves. It's a shell of its former self.
And yet Halo is still here. Where is Killzone? Resistance? Haze? All the supposed "Halo Killers" are dead franchises 😂
"Dead" really isn't the right word for any of these franchises (except Haze). You're also calling these games dead for different reasons. oIMyersIo is saying a Halo is dead because it is not what it used to be and is saying it has gotten much worse. You are saying those franchises faded into obscurity and no one cares. I also find it funny that your first reaction is to name PlayStation franchises because you perceived their comment as a slight against Xbox. I hope you're at the very least part of their ambassador program...
Anyone that sees Killzone as dead is pretty myopic. A decade since their last Killzone, but they themselves have developed two full games since Shadow Fall. That's not many in context at all.
Resistance is a bit less clear. Insomniac is pretty tied up at the moment. Including all of their games on all platforms and ignoring Spider-Man Remastered, we're looking at 23 games since Resistance 3. That's alarmingly prolific and still no R4. My guess? In the modern era, a new Resistance is probably going to have to be a live service and Insomniac is not that studio.
I don't think it's dead though. Not at all.
Halo infinite is still the best exclusive fps and is doing great but you think it's dead lol. Its also one of the top fps games out here so i dont get where your coming from. Just because you don't play it does not mean it's dead or dying.
I liked killzone 1 & 2 and I think Sony should bring it back along with resistance cause they are in need of more variety in their first party lineup. Sony & MS are sitting on some great franchises that need a revival.
"Just because you don't play it"
And there your argument was derailed.
Through making such an assumption, you have only served to show that your response is that of a fanboy and any criticism of your beloved franchises is met with speculation in order to downplay any counter argument.
As a matter of fact, as many in team blue on this site will tell you, I often do defend Xbox just as much as I defend PS, so for you to make such a silly comment is laughable.
I have played plenty of Halo: Infinite - on Series S, Series X and PC via Steam. To say the game comes anywhere near the franchise greats such as Combat Evolved and Halo 2 is delusional. The franchise is a shell of its former self and that is a FACT.
It absolutely isn't the best fps exclusive but at this point we're arguing over preferences which is pointlessly subjective.
Where I do agree is that a Resistance comeback would be great for Sony.
The Killzone series has been dormant since Shadow Fall, but a live service style for its multiplayer might just be exactly what it needs to succeed.
It will fail as a live service. An attractive reboot is required. Sony needs a strong first party FPS.
They don't need a first party fps. Outside of Cod, they aren't as popular as they were last gen and definitely not as popular as they were in the PS3/360 era.
COD is not the be-all and end-all of FPS games. Sony will only have it for a couple of years as the deal is more or less set in stone. Sony needs to work on bringing back Resistance/Killzone/MAG. They're sitting on so many IPs and yet they much prefer to chase the cinematic crowd or be an overall nuisance when things are changing. What did they expect when they play the money game against a much more wealthier company to can outpsend you when neccessary.
The "Trying to turn us into another Nintendo" should have been seen as compliment or as another way to thrive.
Pedantic91
Playing the money game do you mean the advertising rights to cod
Those Same rights ms bought first back during the 360. Ms has had 20 years to get it together and they haven't. All I have to say is who's next ms couldn't handle it even worse since they had more money then nin and Sony. They closed and or ruined so many studios. What is their issue
I would prefer a hawk game like a sequel/ reboot of Starhawk hell I’ll even take a remastered Warhawk or Starhawk with higher players numbers, 64 would be awesome
I think they could seriously improve the fps genre in ways they dont even know.
Imagine those set peice moments that theyre making in 3rd person translated and designed for 1st person.
I think they could compete at a certain extent with CoD. Ive wanted another killzone and resistance long before the activ bliizard deal came around. Not to compete with CoD but to give great single player fps campaigns...this is sorely lacking right now and I hope Sonys sees it eventually.
Best careful what you wish for.
Overwatch 2 is another bad live service game.
Once a developer and publisher have burnt most of the goodwill of their playerbase an entire franchise can be destroyed.
Overwatch 2 despite the rough launch and bugs is hugely successful and crazy popular.
Not to mention Killzone is already dead so if a live service fails it what? Goes back to doing what it is now, being dead. Thus Killzone has absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Hell no.
Just remake KZ2 keep gameplay the same and it'll thrive, I'm sure of it.
No it won't because if they just released a real multiplayer game and not a live service in 2022/2023 people would be whining two weeks after launch that the game was abandoned and "sent out to die."
People hate the terms "Live Service" and "Games as a Service," but in reality that's the only thing people want to play.
Not at all. I currently play no live service games. I did try fallout 76. It became annoying when they wanted money for more storage. I probably played about 15 hours or so.
@shinoff2183
I appreciate that individuals here and there don't, but if you look at how people react to multiplayer games now, it's clear that people want a live service, even if they don't want the publisher to call it that.
Look at Battlefield V. Tha game had maps released here and there for about a year and half, which is actually pretty typical for a Battlefield game (only 4 got map packs later in it's life cycle). Yet the entire narrative around that game now is that the devs abandoned it.
Or look at Red Dead Online. People talk about that game being "dead," and the community even had a funeral. Which you'd think would mean that the servers were down (that's what it used to mean), but it actually just meant the game was just being maintained in a status quo, not as a live service.
Heck, people's complaints about Halo are even more evidence. People used to play Halo multiplayer to have fun. Now people can't see the point in playing the game if there aren't new skins to earn.
Exactly!! If you don't believe what's being said, I dare you to explore the most successful ongoing games. It seems like people just want everything to stay the same with no progression. I may not play, Destiny, Fortnite, FF14, League, Genshin or the like but I can see the opportunity they add to the industry.
Honestly, people dont even understand what live service is at this point. They just hate the term.
What exactly would an FPS in 2022 that is NOT live service be?
No new maps released consistently
No new guns
Maybe a map pack at some point that completely breaks the player base/matchmaking
No constant balance / tuning updates
Thats what a live service FPS is at the end of the day. Anything else like battle passes or microtransactions are the funding methods
@JEECE
Halo Infinite MP was released as a live service game, though. it's starved off contents unlike other live service games thus the backlash is justified imo.
oh hell no!!!!, look at Halo it sure is thriving lol, Killzone only needs a good story, heck you could even leave the graphics visual style of Shadowfall cause up to this day still looks freaking amazing.
It was my favourite in the franchise to date because it was a departure from the drab and dreary original colour profile the city keeps were still some of the best you'll see on ps4 to this day
343i can't develop their own games in their own right and outsource when possible. I doubt Guerrilla Games would make the same mistakes but I don't see Killzone being a live service game adding much to anything other then Sony's bottom line.
Shadowfall was such a drop off from KZ 2/3. I wish they could remake KZ2; with the weight feel also.
With the future of Killzone in question, it leaves a hole that might not be easily filled in PlayStation's first party line up.
Same goes with Resistance another great title that has been shelved.
I don't think these games are gone. Also insomniac has been teasing resistance for over a year so I expect to hear about that franchise soon or sometime this year
*Had been shelved, though most likely not anymore with all the Insomniac teasing.
Why would it be a Cod clone? A new Resistance would be a.. Resistance clone with Resistance style gameplay. This is Insomniac, they don't do ripoffs.
lol Insomniac don't do ripoff and Spiderman is copy/paste of batman even some of the side quests. I have not played it myself but my friend was saying its shameless how much copy/paste insomniac has done from batman games.
Must have missed the sections in Batman Arkham where hes web swinging from area to area or juggling a whole group of enemies in the air at once.
“... my friend was saying its shameless how much copy/paste insomniac has done from batman games.”
He wasn’t around for Spider-man on PS2 I take it? Parker was juggling back when Bruce was still struggling with Dark Tomorrow.
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The lack of 1st party multiplayer titles is shocking, i was bleak even on PS4 compared to PS3:
Killzone 2,3
Warhawk, Starhawk
Socom Confrontation and Socom 4
Motorstorm 1,2
MAG
Twisted Metal
Resistance 1,2
MGO2
TLOU (multiplayer)
Uncharted 2,3 (multiplayer)
The list goes on and on.
I get that they are great at 1st party single player experiences, but the appeared abandonment of multiplayer enabled titles (or even news of, for that matter) is pretty miserable.
Unfortunately Sony would make good multiplayer titles, but people on Playstation would largely ignore them in favor of more generic third party stuff, so as much as I miss their output, I can't blame them for focusing on games people actually buy.
This is exactly why I dropped off Playstation after watching the PS4 launch. Almost all of those games were completely non-existent on PS4, with the exception of a very mediocre Killzone game, and a God of War game, Uncharted game and TLOU2 game that came out towards the end of the PS4 generation.
Last gen I switched to Xbox for a different experience since Playstation started charging for online, which leveled the playing field with Xbox Live, and didn't have any of the games I liked (most of which are in your list). For all of Xbox's faults, I was able to experience the 360 generation games through backwards compatibility, plus I was able to play the newer gears games and Halo games, which were a lot of fun. Titanfall was pretty awesome in the early Xbox One days also.
No it doesn't leave a hole it makes room for something else. Cool doom and gloom article though.
They can't work on new games and try new things? I doubt Killzone is gone forever, but I'd rather they work on new potential franchises, and when they do go back to Killzone, they'll have fresh, new ideas.
I have to disagree with the second point about Killzone 2 not living up to the E3 reveal trailer. For me, the sequel bested the trailer, and went further. The weight and feel of the movements and weapons, as well as a stellar multiplayer experience, made it one of my favourite FPS titles.
Talk about not being able to see the woods for the trees.
Firstly Sony never said Killzone was going to be a "halo killer". That phrase was coined by fanboys. And even GG came out publicly to say they were never interested in that fan boy war - https://www.destructoid.com...
Moreover, when it comes to the bigger picture, Microsoft has been so thoroughly beaten by Sony this Gen, that even they have admitted that they need more exclusives than just Halo, Gears and Forza.
It turns out Sony never needed a Halo killer in the end, they just needed high quality AAA exclusive games. They didn't just bring one to the table - they brought an army of exclusives; and MS ran to the hills and won't even publish their numbers anymore.
So what's your point? How exactly has Halo helped MS this gen? MS will have to bring much more than Halo next gen to even consider going toe-to-toe with Sony.
One of the biggest gaming tragedies of this gen is no Killzone 2 remaster, in a gen full of pointless remasters smh.
Is this article a call out to Guerilla to try and get them back into the killzone series?! That would be great!
Halo is a good series, but I think it was better under Bungie.
Still one of my favorite franchises ever. Still remember getting this shortly after its release from the Metreon in SF, back when the PlayStation store was still there. I know most people's favorite and they started with Killzone 2, but for me, Killzone 1 will still remain my most favorite of the series. From a 4 man fireteam, being able to take on different roles with their own branching paths for each level, the banter between them(Rico and Hakha) and Helghans, level design and the progression from trenches, to swamps, to space, the weapons(although the entire series has great weapon design), etc. This series is probably one of the few to actually make good PSP and Vita games with Liberation and Mercenary. I would love to see a remake of the first with the implementation of Killzone's 2,3,and Shadow Fall multiplayer, but seeing Guerilla's success with Horizon, I wouldn't be surprised if it's on hold for now.