Square Enix: Bahamut Teaser Site Opened

Square Enix has opened the Teaser Site to Bahamut.
Blood Of Bahamut was trademarked back in November,
what could be the subtitle of the game.
It could be the sequel or a remake to popular Super Nintendo/Famicom
Game Bahamut Lagoon.

Lets wait till the Countdown end.

[kesvalk]

i am the only one that thought about how the giant is a little too familiar?

just hope it's for Wii, if it comes to xbox, then it will be official, square was brought by MS

[sinncross]

Well im going to be different and hope for a PSp or PS3 title here.

There is a sprite for the sites logo on my browsers tag... anyone notice from which game its from... might give a valuable clue as to which series this game is a part, or maybe its an NDS title.

[robotnik]

Screw the Wii, PS3 needs more love from SE.

[ChickeyCantor]

Robotnik,
Yes let them do that and create an ultimate bankruptcy.

[gaffyh]

@sidar - Any square enix game will sell a lot in Japan, so how would it mean bankruptcy? Square are a big and talented enough studio to be able to make a game for PS3 without becoming bankrupt

@robotnik - Totally agree, PS3 has not got any love from Square Enix this gen, although I kinda just wish that they stop announcing new games and just finish FFXIII and Versus XIII

[ChickeyCantor]

I wasn't talking about that.
The problem is that the Development costs are HIGH.
If they only focuss on the PS3 it will kill them since it needs sh/t loads of mony due the bigger teams and other resources. And isn't SE already putting lots of their power in FF13?

Ofcourse they will sell their products, but keep in mind that if they ONLY keep pushing Ps3 games, they will need to put up high budgets.

And if you consider how long FF13 is taking, just imagin that with other games if they only made it for the PS3.

I was just "stretching" it to point out that it's not a smart thing to do.

[B-Rein]

yeh i agree with gaffy h and robotnik, SE are big and talented enough to make it exclusive for ps3, i would love to see this new game on the ps3 but knowin SE i have doubts this game would even be on ps3

i have no idea wats wrong with se

but looking at that sprite on the tab of my firefox browser, you can see a little sprite, sadly i bet its a DS game :( looks likr a nintendo, Ds kinda character (btw that sprite on the tab comes up ifa ya open it on bahamut[dot]jp)

[ChickeyCantor]

"SE are big and talented enough to make it exclusive for ps3,"

Totally missing my point...

[gaffyh]

@sidar - yeah I get you, but the high development costs only affect smaller devs usually. And that's only if they aren't used to the PS3 architecture e.g. EatSleepPlay are a small company yet they are developing 3 PS3 exclusives.

Square already have the Crystal Tools Engine (I think that's what it's call now?), and already have experience coding for the PS3 (cos they've been making FFXIII for like 3 years now), so cost wouldn't affect them that much. Also they are loaded. But I understood your argument from your first post, and there is some truth to it.

[B-Rein]

you sed it, exactly what i was thinking,

you highly deserve a bubble :D

addin to it;
"loads of mony due the bigger teams"
and SE have more staff hired then any other game developing company
(chek wiki)

but @sidar i do understand what you mean many companys a backing off from the ps3 or making games multiplat due to the fatc that it cost alot to develp for the ps3 and espacially the smaller devs

[ChickeyCantor]

gaffy,
Not really, if it only affected smaller devs, Monster Hunter 3 would be fully in production for the PS3.
But it seems even Capcom needs to balance stuff out.
You can't just put every high budget game in the production pipeline'( at least not at the same time).

It's just a bad idea.

But didn't lots of man power go to FF13?

@below,

Lol the only fanboy around here is you.
I wasn't bashing anything, just pointing out that it's not a smart move from a financiel(development wise) point.

Lol, so you STFU and GTFO love

Edit:
Since you brought up Xbox i assume you think im a Xbox fanboy, what made you think that?

[Socom]

Japan
PS3: 2 million
360: 700k

Worldwide
PS3: 17 million
360: 21 million

Yes, we can so see that the PS3 is the ultimate bankruptcy you damned fanboys. Gtfo and stfu.

[gaffyh]

@sidar - but the Wii is a different beast, it has the most sales worldwide. It makes sense for Capcom to make the game for Wii, because they don't even have to make it look that much better than its PSP equivalent games. Capcom already said this gen is a Multi-platform generation, although their actions seem to state otherwise (they've done a few 360 and Wii exclusives this gen and no PS3 exclusives as far as I know).

[rockleex]

You DO understand that FFXIII took so long and cost so much mainly because they were developing the Crystal Tools engine for the game.

Every exclusive game by SE for the PS3 after FFXIII would take only about a year to make... if they don't decide to create a BRAND NEW engine again. The new games would also cost a lot less to make than FFXIII because they wouldn't have to create a brand new engine for that new game.

The main reason why most PS3 exclusives take so long to make is because the developers usually create a brand new engine for those games. But after those engines are created, then each successive PS3 exclusive would require far less money and time to create.

But I do understand your point that its not wise to focus entirely on one console if you want to maximize your profits. But what the others and I are saying is that it IS possible to make profit on one console only. Its just that there's no reason why third parties would only want to focus on just one console.

[ChickeyCantor]

@gaffy,

Capcoms main reason was the high development costs.
That's why, and next to that yes Wii has a bigger audience

@above me,
Well at least we agree on some parts =P

[MvmntInGrn]

ok square stop announcing stuff and start releasing stuff!!!!!!!!

Platform wise it depends on who is developing. SE themselves means multiplat but Tri-ace means 360 exclusive since they don't want to make PS3 games.

[kesvalk]

if you can still count Crystal Bearers, then they have 2 titles for Wii too

anyway, they need to show some love for little white guy too, i mean, cmon! every Wii gamer i know is hungry for a RPG, we are all ready to devour tales of simphonia...

[Kain81]

believe me SO4 is only timed exclusiv nothing more.
and the devs said that a PS3 version is planed.
And the publisher is SE so.
SE=MULTI=TRI-ACE

[vasilisk]

We can all see that the artistic direction of Bahamut is a Shadow of the Colossus ripoff. SE seems to be lacking originality the last couple of years...

[Foxgod]

Um yeah, let the SE bashing continue, still pissed at SE being no longer a member of the exclusive PS3 army ?

Anyhow, same artistic direction doesnt matter, as long as its good, or would you bash Chrono trigger for having the same art direction as Dragon ball ?

[CloudsEnd]

Why should someone bash Chrono Trigger for its art direction...

Its from the same person as the Dragon Ball Art Direction...

[Foxgod]

indd, but the style looks the same, i wonder if the bahamut artist is the same as the one from shadow of the colossus.

[Smacktard]

I thought FF# moving to the 360 was actually pretty funny. But I hate Square-Enix too. Because all they ever do is release half-assed ports and remakes. Besides, the final fantasy series bores me half to death, and I can't stand it. The art direction of this upcoming game looks kind of neat (I agree to ripping of SotC, though. First thing I thought when I saw it). I will look out for this.

[vasilisk]

Dude I made a comment about the artistic direction of their new game. I never commented on the PS3 neither the 360 or SE's attitude towards consoles. How can you take this comment and turn it into a "SE leaving the PS3 army" it's beyond my comprehension.
I cannot believe some people...

[hay]

@3.4: I don't mind FF13 being multiplatform. It's just the way of marketing, it's all about cash and surviving in today's market. I understand it. But the way Square abandons it's fanbase is something I didn't see from any other company which pretty much sucks.

@3.5: some people are just oversensitive.

[jkhan]

Well its about time Square Enix should give us a date or atleast a quarter in which they plan to release the god damn FF-XIII game. I am guessing my kids will be playing FF-XIII on ps5/xbox36000

[kesvalk]

FF XIII is the duke nuken forever of Japan...

[shawnsl65]

how long have they been working on FF13? since before the xbox360 even came out right? DAAAAAAAAM LONG~

[PotNoodle]

Square is dumping sony like they dumped nintendo all those years ago :P - I wonder when they'll dump microsoft.

[CloudsEnd]

But for what Company are they going to dump Microsoft? All over again to Nintendo? :D

[jkhan]

Or may be Sega jumps back in console race and they dump everyone for Sega. But to be fair they dump others for company where the money is.;)

[PotNoodle]

They only dumped nintendo because they chose to go with cartridges again and they were much more expensive to manufacture than CD etc etc.

They dumped sony because microsoft have been paying them out, so yeah. Maybe they'll go back to sony in a few years once the ps3 has finally shown what is it worth?

[Foxgod]

You are right with your statement, but you make it sound too negative.

Yes SE is indeed going where the money is, but that has more to do with the fact that sony's competition now has a bigger market share then it had with last generation.

If you still persistently develop for just one console youl miss out a major chunk of income, and without that income your company cannot grow, so if SE would be sony exclusive, they would actually shrink.
And shrinking can put company's out of business.

[CloudsEnd]

Seriously, there were never a Square(-etc) Game for a Sega Console.. o_O

[Foxgod]

They dumped nintendo because the cardtridges where too limited in sense of space, Cd's where able to hold 10 times as much data, with the idea's square had, they would have to split the game over 10 cardtrdiges, so they went to sony, who chose for a cd based system.

They now chose to also release software on the 360, because 360 has more or less about 55 ~ 60 % market share atm.

Which means if they side with sonly only, they would actually sell les software then they did last gen, when sony had 80 % share.

Its just a way to survive for gaming company's, only the company's that are bound by contracts, develop exclusively.

[shawnsl65]

gonna get dumped and move on to the Googlegenesis.

[Bebedora]

I can make a dump. but that won't have the same impact.

[kesvalk]

nah, they aways move to the direct adversary of said company, soooo they will move to apple... they already anounced a chocobo dungeon to it..

[Gue1]

FFXIII looks so epic! too bad is not a PS3 exclusive anymore. this triple AAA game would had set apart the PS3 from the other consoles and it would had give it a tremendous boost in sales... but sony lost it. ;-(

at least FFXIIIvs is still exclusive and it looks a lot better than this but the release is so far away and there's always the chance that could happen the same thing that happened to FFXIII and then went multi-plat. ;-|

[theKiller]

from shadow of the colossus monsters!!

they just made hit bigger and carry some castles on in it and made his hand a mountain, waaaaaaaaaaaaaw amazing innovation(sarcasm)

[Socom]

They do not interest me anymore.

After their recent blackball around the world by gamers, they are now desperate to restore "faith". Hence why suddenly we hear a big load of shiat from them.

News about how we will see FF13 "soon".
News about releases, news about this, news about that, news about new IP etc.

Frankly all this shiat about SE has not even caught my attention lately. Why? Because I dont care! Thats why.

Im playing Valkyria and enjoying every minute of it. NUMBER ONE RPG this gen so far. BY FAR!!!

SEGA 1UPPED Square enix. Who would have thought.

And with WKC up for release soon, I find that I do not have to settle for inferior trash like Infinite floppery or Last Flopnant.

Why settle for C rated stuff, when I can have my full cake of Triple A anyway.

Read my full review of Valkyria for more info. THAT IS A MUST OWN GAME, UNLIKE LAST FLOPNANT (A GAME THAT HAS NOT TOUCHED ANYONES IMAGINATION YET AND IS SCREAMING SUBPAR IN EVERY WAY).

[kewlkat007]

Which console please..

[- The Corrupt -]

Why does that thing look like a bipedal version of youknowwhat? >_>

Anyway, I had a quick look - the sprite used for the page icon isn't a character from Bahamut Lagoon. So it's doubtful that we're looking at a port of the SNES game. Besides, I don't personally remember anything about a giant walking bipedal city either. So we're looking at a new game, which is great.

As for what console I want this on - I'd say the PSP would be a wise choice. It's more popular than the PS3, can do more (in terms of graphics and game size) than the DS. It'd be a great idea, methinks. I don't reckon they really want to release a PS3 game that might overshadow FFXIII, y'know?

[Foxgod]

Could still be a bahamut lagoon sequel, The original had floating islands with dragons living on them, maybe they replaced the floating islands by walking towns.

[kesvalk]

well Square had another game with lagoon on it, but very few ppl know about it.

it was a racing game named racing lagoon, like a racing/rpg of sorts...

thinking about it, the cars leveled up, square can make anything level up....

[hay]

Bahamut Lagoon remake/sequel in the works? I mean, c'mon. I can see some creativity drop since Sakaguchi and Uematsu left.

[fjburgos]

The people who think this game will come on next gen consoles are crazy this game have the name DS all over. Square will not make a RPG like this on next gen consoles much lees on the ps3. I would love too because i own a ps3 but i doubt so.

[Strawberry]

thsi is a wii exclusive

[NaiNaiNai]

funny how people are saying since square is making games for the 360, its a crappy company that sucks. but when someone says they should make there games for the ps3. its all of a sudden a really good company. go f yourselfs your ignorant fools. square is one of the best companys out there, and has been around much longer then even some of the other top companys that fade into the past.
-nai-

[CloudsEnd]

Tell me straight in the face that Square Enix is putting all effort in the Xb360 Exclusives and they are as good as the Exclusives the PS2 had.

I guess you cant do that because u know its not true.
Square Enix sold theirselfs to a Company which only relys on Money.

If Tri-Ace wouldve made Infinite Undiscovery for the PS3, Sony wouldve helped them.
But Microsoft cant help developers because Microsoft isnt doing any games...
Microsoft is just a money spending company.

[P]

Actually,people are saying Square sucks because they haven't put out a single great game on consoles this gen.

Remake after remake,mediocre RPG after mediocre RPG.Square Enix have been nothing but a disappointment this generation.

But please,do continue making yourself look like a jack-ass.

[NaiNaiNai]

so the company sucks even though they are releasing game to tied people over till games like star ocean and FF13 come out. sure what eve. be ignorant.
-nai-

[DNAgent]

It's by Square-Enix so I don't care. I'll be passing on any game made by them. They were good as Squaresoft but I won't even bother with the mediocre garbage that Square-Enix is trying to push out (or remake). Maybe if FF13 was developed by a different company I would've at least considered giving it a chance but i'm sure that game will be garbage since it's by them (not to mention it had to be downgraded for the 360). Luckly, White Knight Chronicles will be coming to the PS3 soon so the Final Fantasy series doesn't even matter anymore.

[NaiNaiNai]

yes everything by square-enix sucks

FF12
kingdom hearts II
-nai-

[kesvalk]

agree nai, the LAST gen of square games was great...

[Captain_Sony]

You have no proof the game had to be downgraded for 360. If anything the limitations of the PS3 will mean this game will run identical on 360. When games are made for 360 first they end up looking bad on PS3. When they are made on PS3 first, 360 has no problem running the same game at the same level as PS3. That doesnt exactly back up your claims at all.If you need proof see 90% of multi platform games out now.

[lordgodalming]

For the love God, stop announcing bs spinoffs until you finish FFXIII. XOXO

[BlackIceJoe]

I hope this is a remake of the great game Bahamut Lagoon. It never came out of Japan so I would love to finally be able to play the game. I am going to guess it would be for the PSP because SquareEnix had a poll back six months ago asking people want system they wanted remakes on and the PSP was number one.

If Bahamut Lagoon does get remade I hope Bushido Blade, Vagrant Story,
Ogre Battle & Blue Wing Blitz will get remade too some day.

[Host Samurai_]

I just want it to be on a home console. PSP/DS have been getting way too much love this gen in the RPG department. I HATE playing RPG's on portables. Come on Square, announce SOMETHING for us home console fans.

You already screwed HD owners out of Parasite Eve 3, which should be on PS3/360.

[Ateanboy]

I used to be the biggest Squaresoft fan back in the day. As soon as the Square Enix merger happened though, slowly but surely I have seen a change in their game titles. The quality of their games have SEVERELY suffered.

Not just graphically, but in every aspect. The quality of the music isnt bad, but the music itself is half-assed and uninspired. The stories are nowhere NEAR FF7, 8, and 9. The graphics are mediocre except for the million dollar CG cut-scenes. And the gameplay, although has always changed with every title, is sucking MORE and MORE with every title. FF12 wasn't a bad game, but compared to the other FFs, it was a HORRIBLE game. Mediocre and uninspired.

I have no hope left in me for Square-Enix. They're money hungry, and they've probably lost every artist that they had working for them. Maybe if they had some REAL artists working on their teams, maybe their games wouldn't be sucking so much ass right about now.

I have no hope for FF13. And Square-Enix is no longer my favorite RPG developer. I am no longer a Square fan. And I will most probably not even be buying FF13. Square-Enix is LAMe.

[RPG Guy]

F*** Square, get your heads outta your collective asses!

[Dead End]

man the pic amazing its look like a war between bahamut and alexander that wll be cool ithink its wll come to psp thought

[Captain_Sony]

I'm putting my money on it being a Wii title. This is why. It takes a good bit of time to make a great game. Square never really got on the Wii bandwagon but has since decided to give it more attention. If they started a Wii game shortly after it launched, right now is when we would be hearing about it. I do not see it going to the PS3 when they still have FF13 coming out and need to actually get it done and shipped. Shifting people away to make a new game isnt what they need right now but they probably would have to just to get experienced PS3 programmers working on the new game showing the new guys how to do it.