Is There Any Good Reason To Spend $60 On Gears 5?

You can spend $60 to play Gears 5 on Xbox One or PC. But why would you do that when you could spend $10? Or just $1?

[crazyCoconuts]

Is there any good reason for me to read another Forbes click bait article?

[Automatic79]

Well said @crazy

I own the game.

[Strange99]

lol, yea, Forbes is trying to suck you in with the video game article and expect you to leave a subscriber. I’m sure Forbes biggest audience is teenage boys, not business owners.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

1. You want to own the game
2. You don’t want to rent the game by paying monthly fees
3. You like Gears of War and want to directly support the franchise.
4. You collect games
5. You aren’t on a tight budget.

[Silly gameAr]

I'm on a tight budget, but even then, I try to support the companies that really put work in to make a great game. I do understand there are people that are just not able to do that. That is who should take advantage of gamepass to the fullest. I just don't see how it's going to support the devs in the long run.

Unless, MT's become bigger in console gaming then they already have, and then we all have a problem.

[kneon]

@hijohn

I expect that the majority of that MT revenue comes from mobile and F2P games. I don't expect the MT revenue from games like this is all that high.

[WiiU-Dude]

People bemoan micro transactions, but they really could be great. If you are a gamer who ignores them then they aren't hurting you. Meanwhile, those who do indulge in them are hopefully creating the needed income for developers thus it is a win win. I only spend on extra content. More tracks, new area, more story, more cars once in a while etc. I almost never buy cosmetic crap or even weapons. Unless it is pay to win crap, they really can be ignored.

[antz1104]

I tried it on gamepass and loved it. My gamepass ran out and I'm not renewing. Definitely will be buying it.

[Silly gameAr]

@WiiU-dude

I bemoan the MT's that obviously take advantage of people. If done right, they're not bad, if done to make a quick buck, then we have Mario Kart Tour.

[mandingo]

Think you touched on everything:)

[nowitzki2004]

You just schooled this question.

[Orionsangel]

A lot of us just wanna play the game. We're not collectors. You get it fo 2 dollars on Ultimate Game Pass.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

The $1 and 2 dollar promos aren’t something people can readily use over-and-over again. Once your promo is over you will have to pay the full subscription fee each month to keep playing the game unless you buy it.

[UltraNova]

I keep hearing about the 1-2 dollars deal and I have to ask, is this a permanent thing or a limited time promo? What I'm asking, will this be a thing 3, 6 months later?

[Strange99]

I hope your collecting for the fun of it, because they won’t be worth anything, ever. Comics that sold tens of thousands and are in pristine condition sell for peanuts. You’ll certainly be on your death bed looking at that collectors edition of TLOU2 thinking one day, one day... when you realize it’s worth 5% more than what you paid for it. Inflation be damned!

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

I collect because I like to. I sometimes randomly get the urge to dust off and play old games.

[william_cade]

If you are a fan of the franchise, yes.

[NarutoFox]

I was a fan like 15 yrs ago. Now new games have took over and evolved over the years 😁

[ninsigma]

nope. Get it for the 1 dollar deal. Then if you really wanna own it you can wait for a sale in the future and you won't have missed out.

[Nu]

I'm buying when a good sale happens. I'll try and play free for as long as possible

[Latex74]

This is great advice win win

[sprinterboy]

Someone gets it.
I've just payed £3.99 last month for EA access and although I'm glad I didn't pay full price for battlefront2, bf5 and anthem I can't really complain as I felt I got my money's worth.
Also bf5 is down to £19.99 atm so if I wanted I could continue my love hate relationship of bf5 for a total of £24 with ea access included in that.
Bargain if you ask me, even if we all hate EA we can't moan at these offers atm.
I was saying to a friend yesterday that psnow has Gow, tlou remaster, doom, wolfeinstein, uc4 etc now for £8.99 as I know his nephew struggles to play all the games he likes due to money. Whatever opinion we have on physical, digital, subscription services or streaming its great options at the end of the day as long as we don't turn gaming into gaas, battle royal, Mt mess that is.

[waverider]

If you want another blockbuster like Gear 5 you should buy it. A game of this quality any player should get it, because with services and after the numbers that Microsoft told will make money... 100+ millions games wont give any kind of return with the service model. Services are good for AA, not for AAA games. Much less when you just got a couple of millions in combined Xbox and PC gamers that got gamepass at 1,2 or 15$.....

[KillBill]

So your take on this is that Microsoft is making a poor business plan by offering 1st party AAA games as well many 3rd party AAA games on their GamePass service and won't be able to make any positive returns? Well maybe you better rush over and give them the news because obviously they could use a great business mind like yours to run their company. lol

[waverider]

Yes, thats the reality. Right now they arent making enough money to cover the cost of making triple AAA games., not even close with 1, 2 or 15$ when they have a couple of millions of subscribers between Xbox and PC, thats was what Gear 5 shows with 3 millions.... Games that cost more then 100 millons to make cant be on any service. Maybe AA, but never huge blockbusters. Right now there isnt martket for that.

This is a gamble from Microsoft that believe that 50, 60 millions in the future will buy services monthly, but the number from XBL and PC arent enought, not even close. Thats why microsoft also told they wont share numbers about subscribers. Like they stop with number of consoles. This after Gear 5, where many started to understand the reality.

[sprinterboy]

They are not making money on gamepass yet though, even ms know that.
Its getting everybody on board, hooked and invested into the eco system with mt (skins/weapons etc) gaas model ms wants first, then they may make a profit with scarlett and beyond?
Seriously ask yourself what type of games will keep gamers from leaving gamepass after a trial or promotion month? Sp games (nope) it's, you guessed it, popular battle royal games, gaas model games, the destiny's and divisions of this world etc.
If that's what you want, then support it but mark my words the scarlett will turn into nothing more than gaas model bare bones games at launch with MT and such, loads of battle royal games with a handful of awesome 3rd party games here and there.

[conanlifts]

" 100+ millions games wont give any kind of return with the service model"

If they get 100 million subscribers at $15 each that is an income of 1.8 billion per year. It also increases player numbers for MT'S etc. It would be hugely profitable if it made it to 100 million subscribers.

[waverider]

my mistake 100 million plus budget to make a game, and not games.

[Godmars290]

But isn't their user base more like 40 million? 30?

Even if you were talking about 100 million subs, that $1.8 billion isn't direct profit, especially if talking about paying 3rd party holders of content on their service. The cost or payout to studios and devs for making any 1st parties. Sure, might be less risk directly in involved for MS, but its less money, maybe far less, for studios than if their games were directly purchased from a "100 million" consumer base.

[conanlifts]

@godmars yes something like that on console. But they have pc now to increase their subs. I personally don't see those numbers happening any time soon, but in a decade who knows where things will be.

As for direct profit I won't guess what it would be, but it would still be good. The thing that would sadly push profit up are the Micro transactions increasing from the higher user base.

[KillBill]

Your math is way off it would only take 10 million subscribers at $15 each to earn them $1.8 billion in revenue per year. (it was estimated back in May 2019 that they had 9.5 million GamePass subscribers per Neogaf) So likely scenario is they are already poised to make relatively $2 Billion a year in subscription revenue alone. The idea that kind of money itself isn't enough to make the AAA games a worthy venture while still putting so much back into the 3rd party companies that share in said revenue and the built in user base for developers.

[Godmars290]

@conanlifts:
What difference will PC make if Xbox Game pass covers PC and console both? Maybe it might be enough to get PC owners to get a console to have access to console-only titles?

And still the ignored issue that caused Atari and the game industry to crash back in the day: Greed not only overriding quality as executives cut corners, but further nickle and diming with microtransactions. Allowing them a streaming pool in which to dump games into in hopes people will blindly dump money in after is just not a sensible, sustainable practice, but that's what they're moving towards.

@ImGumbyDammit:
"Even if it is only 2-3% of the user group that is not console owners that alone and adds north of 60 million users."

Given that MS has stopped reporting any numbers of real consequence, that in most cases one game often fails to sell over a million, AAA title average 4, million, would love to know where you get your numbers. Suspect you're thinking mobile market, which is the least example console gaming needs.

[KillBill]

Again, $15 x 12 months = $180 x 10 million = $1.8 billion... it was estimated in may at 9.5 million monthly GamePass subscribers (likely many more now). Math... it is not that hard people.

Also, one year ago it was showing that XBL had 57 Million active users bringing in over $30 billion. Microsoft is not hurting in any way.
https://www.trueachievement...

[conanlifts]

"my mistake 100 million plus budget to make a game, and not games."

I think you mistyped and I misread your comment.

[Strange99]

This is retarded. They made this game and put it on their game service specifically to bring in subscribers. Buying the game and subscribing to the serviceboth is just making yourself a fool. Their getting their money either way. You think they did this because your smarter than them and they didn’t know any better? For fuck sake.

[Strange99]

Since I can’t reply to your below comment... so what your saying is bringing in subscribers to a repeating monthly fee... guaranteed repeating revenue.... is garbage compared to a a flat fee one time purchase? You paid ay attention to the rise of Netflix at all?

[Zeref]

You do know Microsoft is the most valuable company in the world right now, right? They made a trillion dollars doing exactly this... Providing services.

I'm sure they know what they're doing better than you do.

[evilkillerk]

For someone who loves Gears of War, the easy answer is no. Yes, the game will take more than a month's time to beat, but if you pay $60 for it you are either an idiot or lacking online connection. Even Redbox is selling the game for $30 right now.

[zakir255]

In My Country its Only 19.99$ on Steam

[Imortus_san]

I already played it on Game Pass and will buy it physic once it drops it's price.

[bluefox755]

IMO, no. Not unless you're a big fan of the series.

[conanlifts]

I spent 18 months playing gears 4 with horde and multiplayer. Unless you want to subscribe long term owning it is cheaper.

[Strange99]

Your the unlikely case though. It was you and your buddies thing, which is great, but most of us will be done in 2 months.

[TheDarkArtisan]

What a poor article, depends if you are into Gears of War as a game type, plus if players are worried about the cost, just wait till December when it will no doubt be on offer. People tend to buy when they are prepared to.

[Orionsangel]

No, that's why I paid two dollars for it on Ultimate Game Pass. What do you think this is? Expensive Sony?

[timotim]

For those that like to own their games...absolutely. Gears 5 is one of the most feature rich games of this generation. Its far from a "one and done" title with lots of unlockables and modes and MP. If any game is worth $60, Gears 5 is it.

[Ricegum]

Don't forget there's also lots of microtransactions to purchase.

[isarai]

For me personally? Not really, supporting devs is nice and all but im far from wealthy, so when i can play the game for $2, and im not interested in the multiplayer at all, thats what im gonna do.

[NarutoFox]

How is Gears 5 doing in overall sales so far 🤔

[Strange99]

I just googled it. Sales are shit, but it’s doing it’s job because subscriptions to game pass are still rising. At this rate, g6 is well on its way

[Xavi4K]

Speaking about myself...honestly no...since you can get it from gamepass for as cheap as 5$ or less in addition to several other games...you can beat gears on easy mode within 15 hours max. Moreover, the online is fun and all but myself I'm not into that type of PVP games so I just play a round or two with my friends and thats about it. I'm not saying its a bad game no its one of the best gears I ever played...but I would do this if I have the option with any other game that I know I will beat and never come back to it...like Uncharted or god of war for example.

[frostypants]

Which is why is difficult to gauge the success of the title. People will give anything a chance if it's effectively free.

[Strange99]

It’s not difficult. Reviews plus new game pass subscriptions matched with the game they downloaded and played first tell them all they need to know. This game is a response to all the bitching about MS exclusives and it’s bringing in subscriptions hand over fist.

[CrimsonWing69]

Apparently not if it's on Gamepass, by the time it's off there it will probably have a sale of sorts.

I think we should just move into a subscription base.

[Artemidorus]

Nope. Save it for Shenmue 3, FF7 or LOU2.

[Edgelordsupreme]

Lots of overlap in the Gears and Shenmue fanbase. Hey mister wanna wrestle?

[P_Bomb]

I think as a cornerstone marquee franchise, Gears definitely deserves better than $2.00. I don’t know if our expectations for AAAs to keep raising the bar is realistic or sustainable at the entry point of a Tim Hortons triple-triple.

FTP Fortnite is a license to print money, but not because it’s some GOTY rival to Gears. It’s because of that $24 limited time Batman skin multiplied by a million kids’ allowances. The concern some have is that trickling down (or up) to event games like Gears. Sarah Connor was free until Sept 16th. Curious what the market will look like years from now; if she might cost more than the game?

[Blu3_Berry]

You can pretty much say that about any game. What makes Gears 5 an important subject for this topic? Forbes is really trying hard for clicks.

[Specter229]

No

[littletad]

I plan on buying the game when it's a little bit cheaper since I've always been a fav of the story only and not the multiplayer. Plus I've boughten every single title before it. I really don't understand the purpose of this article, except maybe to combat their previous criticism of articles being mainly pro-Xbox. If you enjoy the game and want to support the developer, buy the game. Simple as that.

[Blaze929]

I dunno, to support the studio that made it for Gears 6? Wild thought.

[Strange99]

So you think didn’t make much money off the game? I imagine a Dickensian room full of poor children and their mothers, all covered in dirt, crying “please, sir, please. Spare me some water for my childs? We’re so parched from making Gears 5. Please, sir. We need the energy to make Gears 6. The vast somes of money and new subscribers to Game Pass aren’t covering the costs of my little ones Black Lung!”

[Blaze929]

@Strange99 you clearly, are a clown.

[AllMightyFox]

Fun Fact about the human brain .. if you ask a ? you are actually answering it …

example : Did Trump just commit a crime on TV ? …. Yes, Yes he did

is Gears 5 worth $60 ? … No, it's not

Is the Pope protecting pedophiles ??? …. You get the point ….

[Father__Merrin]

Xbox is turning into a rent console as they love renting themself's out. I suppose if you don't want to own any games but rather rent them then it's something you could use

[gamer7804]

there is not a good reason to spend 60$ on any game really, within a few months it will be 40$ or less. But if you want to play it when most play it and talk to others about it, thats usually when I get it on day one for 60$, but it is rare. Most games are patched and play better and run better a few weeks or months after release.

[AllMightyFox]

props for an intelligent response …..

why did I bother commenting ??

intelligence is rare these days =)

[StormLegend]

If they offer me a game for $1, then I'm paying that much. I wouldn't buy the game completely unless I wanted it for more than a month.

[warriorcase]

To each is there own I guess. I got gamepass ultimate for 6 Months for my Xbox and PC for $50.
Seemed like much better value

[BadElf]

No.
No where near enough Maps and modes. Gotta be honest here, folks

[Limitedtimestruggle]

Played trough it via Gamepass, and I loved it! I will get it for my physical collection when the price drops!

[AK91]

Nope not with all those MT’s

[sin7279]

Oh forbes again, lol!