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Astral Chain being review-bombed on Metacritic with zeros, fans fire back with perfect 10 scores

There's a bit of a battle going on over at Astral Chain's Metacritic page. It seems the trouble started when a few people went over to the page to hit the game with zeros. Why are they doing this? It seems people are upset the game is a Switch-exclusive, leading to the bombing.

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lptmg1725d ago

they got a LOT of free time on their hands, don't they

Question_Mark1724d ago

And here we have one of those petty, sad people.

killswitch801724d ago

maybe but I enjoy AC far more

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mikeslemonade1724d ago

Looking to play Luigi Mansion instead of this overrated game. Switch has inflated scores per usual.

Sirk7x1724d ago

And I could say Bayo 2 > DMC5. Shit, I could say I'd prefer the original DMC over 5. Who cares if a game is subjectively better than another? I'm enjoying Astral Chain, the action feels great. Bought DMC5 as well. Both good games.

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Shiken1724d ago (Edited 1724d ago )

Never played Astral Chain, claims it is overrated...

This is why haters can never be taken seriously in a real discussion. The only thing worse than being clueless, is limiting lying to yourself.

jznrpg1724d ago

If mike likes DMC5 better that’s his taste . Doesn’t make him wrong or 10iq. I bought Astral chain but I’m still playing Three Houses . Maybe I’ll pop it when I Take a break

Brave_Losers_Unite1724d ago

@mike

I think you're a retard

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CDbiggen1724d ago

lol, what are we, 10 years old? I bet most of us here are adults and we're saying this sad ass shit.

mikeslemonade1723d ago

^
Lol at the people who say I haven’t played SW-7872-6775-0007

First level is motorcycle rail shooter, then you fight basic baddies with baton or a gun. Some flying enemies. Then you get an auto bot that you can call upon. Then you fight a boss.

Bayonetta > Bayonetta 2. Atleast Astral Chain seems to be better than overrated Bayonetta 2. DMC5 is better than B2 and AC.

Platinum needs to make a real current gen game on Xbox, PlayStation, or PC. Weak switch hardware is holding this game back. It only makes me want to play DMC5.

Neonridr1723d ago

@mikeslemonade - not to put any claims against you, but you could have easily watched a youtube video of the game.

mikeslemonade1722d ago

^
I can upload the pic on twitch. People didn’t believe I had a WiiU either.

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Jin_Sakai1724d ago

So it seems they’re review bombing the game for being a “30fps” action game.

Sono4211724d ago

"It seems people are upset the game is a Switch-exclusive, leading to the bombing." \

Is this what gaming journalism has stooped down to? There is literally only one negative user review on metacritic that even complains that the game is only on a Nintendo console, the rest are complaining about the graphics, or 30 FPS, or boring combat, seriously how pathetic is this? Not to mention all of the people on this site just EATING up the narrative, go look for yourself ffs, it's not hard, this article is very clearly lying trying to defend the game.

Sure there are like 3 negative reviews in spanish which I can't read, but i'll even give them that, let's say all those 3 reviews are bashing it just because it's exclusive to nintendo (Doubtful as they wrote paragraphs but let's give it to them) that would make 4 reviews in total.... is that really a "bombing"?!

Pathetic click-bait garbage is all this is, and it looks like 90% of this site fell for it.... sad, this article should be reported for flat out lying, and the site should be blacklisted.

Rynxie1724d ago

Good, Nintendo deserves it. Nintendo is right there with the epic game store. These companies have to go extinct. Come on guys, let's vote down all Nintendo games.

Shiken1724d ago

Yep, they sure do deserve fans firing back with 10s, the 88 score for the game, and the fact that the game is flying off store shelves.

xVOLTx1724d ago (Edited 1724d ago )

This right here is what is wrong with gamers today.

rainslacker1724d ago

No game product deserves to be unfairly criticized. There is nothing overtly wrong with the game, and while I could understand some subjective variance to scores, or even a few people hating it, actively review bombing a game is just lame. It undermines that validity of reviews as a whole, and that validity is already on thin ice.

Ratchet751724d ago

Let's not. 😂😅🤣

King_Noctis1724d ago

There are some sad and pathetic people who would say stupid things just because they are anonymous on the internet.

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Neonridr1723d ago

uhhh.. this isn't Epic paying for the distribution rights to a game. This is Nintendo funding a game that wouldn't have been made otherwise.

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trooper_1724d ago

That's a really, stupid and petty things to do.

wolf5811724d ago

Not only that there is some sites that do this in metacritic too.if y check games like uncharted 4 or zelda bow..and other major titles you will see sites score these games under 5.just to bring down the overall score.metacritic must do something with these trollosites

rainslacker1724d ago

I don't think they do it to bring the score down. I really dont believe they care about more than themselves, and those stand out scores tend to drive hits to their page so they can get paid. It's rare where I read a exceptionally low score on an otherwise high rated game, where the author can substantiate their score with something that makes sense to mark down for, and for the ones that can manage to do a proper review, they more often than not say that its subjective, and still give the good, along with enough info for the reader to decide if the criticisms matter or not

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addictedtochaos1724d ago

This happens all the time with exclusive games. Nintendo exclusives do seem to get it worse than others though.

Babadook71724d ago

It happens way too much with user reviews for absolutely anything. Scores are either 10 or 0. Which is why user reviews aren’t worth anything.

Sono4211724d ago

You seriously need to just go read the user reviews for yourself, there aren't that many negative ones, you can read them in literally a minute, this site is flat out lying, and someone with the ability to do so should report this article and get this site blacklisted, it's a flat out lie that is EASILY debunked by just going to metacritic.

killswitch801724d ago

I mean I am not a rich man but just buy a PS4 and a Switch people and you dont have to worry about it

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Rynxie1724d ago

How about you sell your switch and become a rich man investing in better ps4 games?

RedDevils1724d ago

@Rynxie why should he, or are too stupid to sell your second options when your first choice console don't have that certain games?

Tapani1724d ago

Why did this happen? It was 9.3 among 35 reviewers and then I refresh the page 3hrs later and it was 6.8. Where did that rush come from suddenly???

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SPEAKxTHExTRUTH1724d ago

Must be some of the more arrogant fanboys doing this....

King_Noctis1724d ago

“It seems people are upset the game is a Switch-exclusive, leading to the bombing.”

And that is what wrong with some people nowadays.

lptmg1724d ago

a game published by Nintendo being a Switch exclusive is CLEARLY AN OUTRAGE!

TK-661724d ago

On a more serious note where are the people saying the user reviews are reliable? Only a few months back we had people saying "don't trust the critic score, the user score is what matters".

For as long as there is no need for the user to prove they even own the game, (let alone finish it) user scores on sites like metacritic will never be a reliable measurement of what users actually think.

RedDevils1724d ago

Those site should only allow the people who owned the games, unfortunately they allow people who doesn't even have the switch to review the games

rainslacker1724d ago (Edited 1724d ago )

Reviews tend to average out closer to reality the longer time goes on. Some exceptions exist of course. I feel the same with the pro reviews on meta. More often than not they line up fairly close to what I'd rate a game. That's why if something is a 6, i would still be apt to try it, because I might think it's a 7. Granted, reviews are pointless to me nowadays, but they're handy for discussion sometimes

Sono4211724d ago

No... whats wrong nowadays is a site can just spread lies and people just eat it up and go along with the narrative. Go look at all of the negative reviews, only one single review complains about it being a Nintendo exclusive, the rest complain about: Boring combat, 30 FPS, and bad graphics.

This article is flat out lying and should be black listed. It's a shame so many people on this site fell for this when literally all you have to do is go on metacritic yourself... absolutely disappointing.

King_Noctis1724d ago (Edited 1724d ago )

Boring combat? You control a legion in addition to controlling your own character. You basically control two fighter at once. It is not a straight forward action game, so how is that boring?

30fps? That is a valid complain, however those who actually played the game know it does not affect combat in anyway. Also, bad graphic? Have you missed an IGN article which literally said this might be the best looking game on the Switch?

I believe you should play the game first before trusting any of those user reviews over all of the critics’ reviews. Also, in what way does this game deserve 0 score? Is this game an unplayable broken mess?

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TK-661724d ago (Edited 1724d ago )

"only one single review complains about it being a Nintendo exclusive, the rest complain about: Boring combat, 30 FPS, and bad graphics."

Yeah it's just super coincidental that the game started getting bombarded with 0/10 scores from fresh accounts with no other reviews. It's not like Metacritics user scores across just about every single game are completely unreliable, and in no way accurately display what the opinion is of actual players of the games.

Choose a different hill to die on. Defending Metacritics user reviews isn't one worth fighting on.

Sono4211724d ago

These are not my complaints, i'm not even far enough into the game to have a solid review of it yet, although my first impressions are that it is pretty good.

However, this article is attributing motive to people who may just have different opinions than the person who wrote the article, which is not journalism at all. They are lying, it is fact that only one user review complains about it being exclusive to the switch, so this article claiming it is getting "review bombed" for that reason cannot only be proven false by actually reading the reviews written about this game, but goes to show they simply can't comprehend different opinions and label them "review bombs".

The fact that so many people are disagreeing with these facts shows that you can't handle differing opinions either. This site IS lying, or at the very least giving motive which they cannot actually provide evidence to prove this is their motive. In A LOT of the positive reviews however, you can see people saying they are giving it 10's to counter the low reviews... how is that not a bigger deal than an alleged "review bomb"?

Both of those are the exact same thing, except one is PROVEN and the other is a fabrication based on ONE review. One swings the pendulum in one way, and the other swings it the other way, if they were truly concerned about what is right and wrong they would call out the ones giving it 10's just to counter, but that is clearly not the case.

It's pure insanity as now there are people giving it 10's just to counter this "review bombing" that never even happened..... what they are doing should be known as "review boosting" and should be seen as just as bad, but clearly this article doesn't think so because they are clearly biased, at this point I would call that a fact I mean they even have Nintendo in the name, you would think they would at least try to be objective here, although I also didn't expect the N4G community to just eat up this easily provably false lie so easily either. Just pathetic.

TK-661724d ago

@Sono421

You're assertion is that the game is not being review bombed. So can you explain why accounts exist with only 1 review all of which being in the red make up a sizable chunk of the reviews? It's very odd to think that this game is so bad that it's moved people to sign up to Metacritic just to give it a negative review. How do you determine the difference between those accounts and say if I make 20 accounts right now and give a game a 0 score 20 times? If you can't tell the difference between them, then these "facts" of yours are bull.

Your evaluation of the facts can currently be summarized as "ARTICLE IS LYING". Let's look at whats currently fishy about these reviews. There's currently 647 positive reviews, and 246 of them have written something explaining their score. But when we look at the negative reviews we have 300 altogether and a measly 16 have written something. You think that's not odd? What you're basically saying is people are angry about something bad in this game, but out of 300 only 15 are able to tell us!?!??!? Gamers aren't the sort to keep quiet when something pisses them off.

So show us how these "facts" that suggest the scores were made by legitimate players. How you can tell the difference between a legitimate 0/10, and me giving a fake 0/10? If you can't provide a reliable method of doing so then what you call facts is questionable.

Question_Mark1724d ago

You really have no idea how Metacritic works, do you? You don’t have to leave a written review to score games.
And do you honestly believe that the people bombing the game would come out and say they’re doing it because it’s an exclusive? They know it would invalidate their entire review, so they try to make it seem like they’re people who have actually played the game. All they have to do is copy the complaints that other negative reviews have said.

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Knushwood Butt1724d ago

Coming from Noctis, who continuously trolls GT Sport threads.

King_Noctis1724d ago (Edited 1724d ago )

And coming from you, who continuously have nothing good to say for anything beside your most favourite piece of plastic. Unlike you, I criticize games that need to be criticized and praise games that are actually good. You need to learn the different between criticism and straightout trolling.

And what does GT Sport have anything to do with Astral Chain?

Knushwood Butt1724d ago

'I believe you should play the game first before trusting any of those user reviews.'

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DaDrunkenJester1724d ago

Why is anyone upset by this game being exclusive? Nintendo funded the development... it's not like they money hatted a timed exclusive or anything.

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Sono4211724d ago

Literally only one negative user review on metacritic complained about this, the rest complained about boring combat, 30 fps and bad graphics. This article is flat out lying, go ahead, go look for yourself.

This site needs to be blacklisted for flat out lying.

Shiken1724d ago

So people cannot review bomb a game and just say those reasons despite having never played it?

Sono4211724d ago

The point is they are giving a motive based on ONE review, how could you possibly attribute that motive to all negative reviews? That isn't journalism, not even a little bit.

Could those people be lying? Yes of course, but why do they assume they are lying? Simply because they have a different opinion than the person writing the article? That is the opposite of professionalism, that's blog writing garbage, not to mention the clear hypocrisy of it all, if the negative reviews are seen as "review bombing" why aren't all of those positive reviews saying "I'm giving it a 10 to counter the negative reviews" considered review boosting? Why is that not just as bad? This site basically applauds them for doing so even though it is the exact same thing they are criticizing others for supposedly doing, just in the other direction. It's blatant hypocrisy and just makes this site look like a joke.

Shiken1724d ago

No I agree on that front, the article is garbage.

The fact is, there are a lot of people hating on the game though, albeit not enough to even drag the score below a 7. I thought you were implying that other reviews must be true and jumped the gun based on the aforementioned trend.

My mistake, and I agree, garbage writing.

DaDrunkenJester1724d ago

I'll go check this out then, but I also have a friend who I trust in taste who is loving it despite it being 30fps.

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Sirk7x1724d ago

The same thing is going to happen with Bayo 3.

King_Noctis1724d ago (Edited 1724d ago )

I believe Bayonetta 3 is gonna have an even bigger problem, since it is the sequel to a well-known and well-recieved franchise.

This is why I’ve been saying, get all consoles if you are a true fan of gaming.

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2K Games’ big Summer Game Fest announcement needs to be Mafia 4

2K Games will take the stage at Summer Game Fest, and it is about time we got some good news about the state of Mafia 4's development.

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purple1011d 2h ago

Didn’t a leak about a max Payne remake surface a while ago?

banger881d 1h ago

I hope it's Mafia 4. And I really hope it's set during the 70s or 80s, and not a prequel of the first game as was rumoured.

PrecursorOrb9h ago

Hoping for a Vegas mafia over here

DustMan5h ago

Now that would be a great setting.

TheColbertinator8h ago

Mafia 4 would be cool if set in a 70s to 80s era

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Call Of Duty On Game Pass Is A Big Risk Big Reward Gamble

Discover the impact of Microsoft's decision to include Call Of Duty in Game Pass. Explore the pros and cons and speculate about future changes.

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Elda1d 4h ago

Most folks that have a Gamepass subscription will not spend the $70, they will use Gamepass instead to play COD. MS will most likely make their money from some solely PC players & some solely PS5 owners. Even some PC players may opt to use Gamepass instead of spending $70. I would think MS would want to make every dime they could from retail sales. As long as they put new releases of COD day one on Gamepass, MS will lose out on some sales of COD.

porkChop1d 1h ago

COD makes truck loads of money on microtransactions. That's likely the play. Get more people in the door through Game Pass and sell more microtransactions. Have a steady stream of events to keep people interested so they keep their sub, and then just the sub alone would double the revenue from that player each year.

Elda22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

Buying the game at $70 a pop including the deluxe versions is much better than people subs for a dollar to $15 a month. Die hard fans that usually buy the game also buy into the transactions. Again putting any new COD day one on Gamepass is definitely a sure loss of making some retail money for every copy of COD. With the last iteration of COD being bad most likely people are going to sub to Gamepass to play COD basically saving themselves $70, that is a loss of retail sales.

Kakashi Hatake1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Most that don't have Gamepass will just buy the game and he done with it. People that do will just result in a retail sale being lost. Some will buy the subscription for the month then be done. This is lose lose. Casuals aren't going to pay almost 300 dollars a year for COD.

ApocalypseShadow22h ago

The reality is that Microsoft already knows the answer as stated by them in their documents. PlayStation gamers have built up an ecosystem of games and they aren't migrating over and dropping what they have to buy an Xbox to play one game in a service you have to pay monthly for. Cheaper to just buy the game. And, I'd bet many casual COD players don't know or care about the acquisition.

Which is why Jim Ryan pushed to make sure that that one game continues to be sold as usual on Sony's platform to keep the status quo. Every other IP owned by Activision are worthless. And Activision has shown they don't care about other IP like Tony Hawk by cancelling them.

Sales WILL be lost on Xbox. That's for certain. Microsoft can only hope that Xbox gamers continue to buy up those micro transactions to make up for those lost sales. Only positive for Microsoft is that they get to dip into PlayStation game sales that we all know from history and NPD, that Sony's console sells more games. But increase subs from Sony fans for game pass? Not happening in any way that matters.

Sony, on the other hand, can have their cake and eat it too. They get COD and they can continue dropping more content for their fastest selling GaaS game which is Hell Divers 2. As the game passes 12 million sales and doesn't beat you over the head with micro transactions, Sony has a win win situation and can support the game getting more content to keep players engaged.

As a side note, COD is probably going to turn into some version of Sea of Fortnite Duty. Games as a service sitting in game pass being milked dry with micro transactions and constant updates making you feel you're playing an unfinished game that keeps going and going with no soul.

Tedakin22h ago

I'm not sure why everyone is acting like COD is a surprise. That was always the plan. They said in court during the FTC case they were doing this. They have said repeatedly and recently all first party games are going to Gamepass.

badboyz0914h ago

gamepass like PS Plus are rental services. Games like COD you buy not rent. So in my case unless I plan on keeping gamepass for 2yrs minimum than the benefit of adding cod is pointless.

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Ghost of Tsushima PC has 84% positive reviews and a peak online audience of 72 thousand people

On 16 May, the long-awaited release of the PC version of Ghost of Tsushima took place. And the game proved to be a great success on the first day.

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PrinceOfAnger2d ago

69,477
all-time peak 3 minutes ago.

thorstein2d ago

Nice. It's really cool that PC players get to play this masterpiece.

PrinceOfAnger2d ago

It has surpassed spider man now
it's 71k+
game did this with way shorter time than spider man.

itsmebryan1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

@prince
I'm confused. Does that number mean total players at one time playing like a snapshot
or total sales? If it's the former that's not very accurate because I know I'm not the only person that buys games and plays them later and that number is not included.

RNTody2d ago

Great, I loved this game. Definitely think it's Sucker Punch's best work to date!

rippermcrip2d ago

Is this going to be the new thing thing? Articles about Steam reviews? Which of course was in response to the false article about the review bombings in the first place.

Christopher2d ago

Hey, just a heads up that the new owners did open news to Steam updates, but we try our best to not allow them to go on daily updates unless relevant to some other news. I understand this isn't everyone's cup and tea and sympathize, but the door has been open. If you feel it's 'too much' please do PM me or submit a ticket to the mod team. Thank you.

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shinoff21831d 20h ago

I came here to post this link in that specific article. 84 perce t is pretty good. How many bad reviews were there like 5

GamerzElite2d ago

This is good game and Ghost eliminate all fake outrage.

CrimsonWing692d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I always get confused by this, but is 72k good sales numbers for a game? I keep seeing games fail at selling 2.5 million and that they need to be on multiple platforms but is an additional 72k adding much?

Fishy Fingers2d ago

Im not sure how its confusing :\

72k actively playing. Not 72k sold.

A good example is Helldivers 2, 6m sold, 450k (at its peak) active players.

But how many swords swung is what we're all really waiting for.

shinoff21831d 20h ago

Lmao. How many swords swung. I was hoping for how many steps

purple1011d 14h ago

how many flutes played

wesnytsfs1d 9h ago

And its how many years old from initial release.

Crows902d ago

72k is concurrent
...that is not the sold figure.

Michiel19892d ago

for one they already had a huge launch on the playstation, they don't need to sell 5m to make the porting to pc profitable and as pointed out below that number you see is just the people playing it at this moment.

Plague-Doctor272d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Also from the insomniac leak we know these PC ports are a quick turnaround and budgeted around $2-4 million. At 100k sales they break even including Steams cut. They may not sell millions but they are a great ROI

elazz1d 16h ago (Edited 1d 16h ago )

72k concurrent. That is a global number. People who bought the game are not playing at the same time because of timezones, working schedules, holidays, events... There is no good rule of thumb but you can extrapolate based on other games that also released sales data. Then it is clear that the PC release alone accounts for at least 500K copies sold on steam, maybe closer to 700-800K. Probably will sell over a million this extended weekend.

According to steamspy and other data gathering sites games like Days Gone, Spider Man, God Of War, Horizon Zero Dawn have sold 2 to 5 million copies on Steam. So I expect Ghost to reach similar numbers. Probably even surpass it.

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