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Resistance 2: Thank You For Not Using a 5GB Install

Loot Ninja writes:

"Game installs on the PS3 have become a huge problem. We've seen hard drives fill to capacity already and there looks to be no end in sight. I was pleasantly surprised when Resistance 2 nixed that huge 5GB install that most games these days require."

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dktxx25679d ago

I think this shows that the only reason installs are so big is because its a quicker way of getting a game to run better than optimizing it. Its not because of blu-ray drive speeds or anything like that, its the difficulty of programming for the ps3, which will blow away in awhile after developers get more experience with the ps3.

drunkpandas5679d ago

You're right, it's an easy way out. Resistance 2 has supposedly 420 hours of gameplay and little to no load times, yet only needs 350mb cached to the hard drive. Most games with 5gb installs still have decent load times and don't have nearly as much content

thor5679d ago

Yes you are correct here. Blu-ray has marginally slower read speeds - but the main problem is being able to code for the PS3. The install is just an easy way out to make the game run smoother/load faster.

chaosatom5679d ago

* stands up and Applauds R2*

Danja5679d ago

It's more like "Stand up and aPplauds Insomniac for exposing alot of lazy devs"

OMG guys I finally finshed R2 story and seriously im even more pumped for R3 so many questions to be answered and I can't wait to see where Insomniac takes the story....

hay5679d ago

As far as I know they load levels during cutscenes that's why we don't see any loading, but it's there. Cool trick.

mikeslemonade5679d ago

You guys are right about the easy way out but it doesn't mean that an experience developer like insomniac can still use 5gigs. Just think about how the game could be better with the install. I can care less about installing games because i can delete installs from games that I don't play anymore.

DaTruth5679d ago

My problem with deleting the install is that you also delete any downloadable content or any updates and you have to re-download it all if you want to play the game again later, by the time I do all that I won't want to play anymore. So it still can be a huge problem.

SaiyanFury5678d ago

In actuality, BD has a faster read time than that of the average DVD read speed. BD beats out DVD's read speed, as it's a constant transfer rate. DVD's best transfer rate can't beat out BD's constant speed and therefore loses out in the race. The reason that companies make PS3 installs mandatory is that BD's seek speed is a bit slower than DVD. That's the reason. So in order to turn that over, they make HDD installations a must. Because people can't wait a few seconds more, this has become the norm. Sorry, but that's just a simple fact. DVDs seek a bit faster than BD and because of the minimal seek time, developers try to eliminate that.

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yanikins1115679d ago

hmm.... i notice me bubbles be shrinkin.... be it that dastardly bubble-gobblin' seamonster?

P.S. While I dont mind installing, good work insomniac for showing them how its done!

P.P.S SACKBOY IS FRUSTRATING THE HELL OUT OF ME

P.P.P.S I haven't played a game for ten hours straight since ff7... damn you Mm

drunkpandas5679d ago

You get bubbles cause Goblins stole them :)

yanikins1115679d ago

many thanks. i think it is in some way karma because i keep "terrorist-ing" my sackboy. he looks so cute when he self-detonates :D

ultimolu5679d ago

xDDDD
It's an addicting game. :3

DaTruth5679d ago

I didn't even think I would use the create mode and now I've spent 5 hours a day for 2 weeks on a single level and I'm only half done. I had some inspiration one morning and the ideas keep coming to me.

Oner5679d ago (Edited 5679d ago )

@ Juuken ~ "xDDDD It's an addicting game. :3"

Was that meant for R2 or the "Bubble Goblin" game? ;) ...chuckle

But back on topic....good work as usual Insomniac.

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DJ5679d ago

And I'm glad developers are realizing that it's really engine optimization that ultimately decreases load times and texture/object pop-in.

Resistance 2 only has a 350MB install (smaller than Ratchet Future and Resistance 1), and Motorstorm 2's install is literally 10% smaller than its predecessor's (50MB instead of 500MB).

drunkpandas5679d ago

Sony's actual limit is 5gb, which unfortunately a lot of devs are using, which is filling up a ton of hard drive space. I know a few people with 40gb consoles that have full HDD's. I have a 200gb hard drive in mine and I'm using over 100gb of space, 95% of which is game data.

pwnsause5679d ago

thats not %10 smaller, thats more like %90 smaller.

yanikins1115679d ago

i was wondering why that 10% thing looked wrong little sack person...

taz80805679d ago

How many GB's are Wii installs, o right LOL, I kid I kid

yanikins1115679d ago

my roflcopter goes lolololololololol-chug-chug-st all

chaosatom5679d ago

How many MB are Wii games??????

drunkpandas5679d ago

Who knows, they still count things in Blocks

Needs moar FLOP5679d ago

Theres going to be 10GB in patches!!!

ravinshield5678d ago

oblivion...4.6gb required
sony may cry 4...4.7gb-20 min install
full auto 2...1.7gb required
spider man 3...2.3gb-five min install
hot shot golf...5gb-five min install
skate...2.5gb--five min install
rainbow six vegas 2...3.4gb required
wwe smackdown vs raw 2008....2.3gb required
F.E.A.R...2.5gb required
NBA 07....3gb-ten min install
lost....3.6gb---six minute install
conflict denied ops...2.5gb required
beowulf---2.5gb---five minute install
GT prologue--5349MB..13 minutes install
Quake=4.1 GB install
GTA 4...5 min install.
battlefield:BC...300mb required
Bourne Conspiracy..5GB Install required
metal gear solid 4...8 min install,4.6 GB required
BIOSHOCK......5.0 GB required, 10 min mandatory install
Vampire Rain....3.8GB install required
Fracture...1900MB required=4 minutes
little big planet....600MB Install required
Socom Confrontation... 3.1GB Install required
Far Cry II....3.5 gb install required
NBA 09 The Inside....2.5gb required
Resistance 2...350mb required

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pwnsause5679d ago

Uncharted is another game that doesnt use any installs. Not to mention Burnout Paradise. Its all about optimization all right. It shows that Developers still dont know what they are doing correctly.

CrippleH5679d ago

I like the way Uncharted does it.

It ghost cache it on your harddrive on the first load. Then after seemless!

More devs need to do it like Naughtydog.

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Ranking the Resistance Games From Worst To Best

While it's been on ice for as long as it was around, the Resistance franchise has no shortage of quality.

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Knushwood Butt756d ago

My take:

Single player
3, 2, 1

Multiplayer
3, 1, 2

Overall
3, 2, 1

I beat the lengthy single player in 1 multiple times and spent hours in the online too. Plus 1 featured my home town! Special mention to the audio design in 1: playing that with surround headphones blew me away.

Note: I have the platinum for Resistance 2.

Eidolon755d ago

Resistance 1 MP will always be my favorite. Call it nostalgia or whatever, but that was my jam, felt more balance, natural.

Miraak82 755d ago

i have the platinium too , 10k kills in online ranked matches was no joke . Took me 3-4 months straight grinding but it was fun . To put it in perspective you only got like 25 kills per match if you were 1st place every match that's at Least 400 matches in 1st

Sciurus_vulgaris756d ago

I only played the 3 main Resistance titles. My ranking would be;
1. Resistance 3
2. Resistance: Fall of Man
3. Resistance 2

GoodGuy09756d ago

Man I loved 3's campaign. Another gem stuck on the ps3 and who knows if insomniac will go back to the franchise.

fr0sty755d ago

Resistance, Warhawk, MAG, Motorstorm, there's so many first party gems on PS3 that Sony has just left to die...

P_Bomb756d ago

Never played Burning Skies but I still have Retribution.

monkey602755d ago

Burning Skies was about 3 hours long and rather inconsequential. You haven't missed anything

porkChop755d ago

Honestly, Burning Skies was shit. There's no two ways about it. At first I thought it looked terrible, then I second guessed myself. Big mistake.

darthv72754d ago

Retribution has this really cool feature where you could use a PS3 to link a controller to it and play. So if you had a 2000 or 3000 hooked to a tv, you can use a real controller. All of this predates the PSP Go's ability to sync a sixaxis to it via bluetooth.

Yui_Suzumiya755d ago

Resistance 3 was shocking and brilliant. Loved it.

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Why Resistance Was So Incredible

While the studio is best known for Spyro the Dragon, Ratchet, and Clank, and Spider-Man back on the PS3 the studio broke from creating platformers and made one of the highest regarded science-fiction first-person shooters of all time. This was Resistance and it remains one of Sony's most acclaimed and dormant franchises.

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Jin_Sakai1112d ago

Really wish Insomniac would bring back Resistance!

darthv721111d ago

Agreed. Until they do a new entry, I'd love to get the two portable games remade into console versions. Maybe in a nice compilation with the mainline titles.

monkey6021111d ago

Burning Skies wasn't a great game.
It was only a couple of hours long and there was nothing memorable about it.

I'd love a new entry

darthv721111d ago

^monkey, hence why it should be remade into a better version.

SullysCigar1112d ago

Resistance 3's campaign was gorgeous for the time - and an awesome game to boot.

monkey6021111d ago

I remember being put off by it because McHale wasn't the MC but it turned out to be my favourite campaign

CBaoth1111d ago

by and large though the Resistance IP featured many protagonists (4 altogether I think if you include the portables). One of the reasons I enjoyed it was not being shackled to individual story arcs. Very rare for a major franchise.

Army_of_Darkness1110d ago

My favorite resistance game as well! It seriously had creepy, scary a$$ moments bro! It made me want an action horror game from insomniac!

Mr_cheese1111d ago

Remember playing this through online co op with the move controller and gun attachment! What a game!

BlackIceJoe1112d ago

I've said in the past I'd like to see this series return and have it take place years later, like in the present.

I'll give you an example if I'm not mistaken the last game ended in the 50s, so if it was to take place some time in the 2020s you'd have an opportunity to see how the world changed after the fall of Chimera and all the new technology that came out of that war.

Just like in our universe we all know WW2 happened, but we never experienced it, so if the next Resistance game takes place years later so too would people in that universe know a war look place against the Chimera, they just wouldn't know what it really was like.

So getting to see how that universe would respond to the Chimera reemerging would be interesting.

Imagine a little kid talking with his grandfather about the war and the kid just thinks it was just a made up bed time horror story and what was said was worse than what really took place, but now that the Chimera come back the kid will find out why years later the old timer adults were still waiting for the Chimera to return.

I think there is great potential for this series still and I really believe the best way forward for Resistance is make it have a time jump too.

So hopefully this series will return.

Dragonopolis1111d ago

Great Idea. I'd play that version.

Resistance was a great game and of all the remasters.... I would play a great remastered version of resistance series as well

waverider1111d ago

I was blown away when i played for the first time Resistance on the PS3. Great Game. Also liked very much an played for hundred of hours the Co-op of R2. The SP campaign of R3 is also excelent. I really hope that Sony and Insomniac annouced the Remaster of the Series and a new chapter. They got story to do that.

Jambola121111d ago

Resistance 2 was one of the first few games i played on ps3 and I loved it, would definitely finish that again :D

Chevalier1111d ago

I loved all the Resistance games. But part 2 online was amazing. The Marksmen for the Spec Ops type class when it was fully upgraded was such an amazing weapon. Oh man I wish they release all the games again and let us play part 2 online again.

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Insomniac should bring back Resistance now that it's part of Sony Worldwide Studios

With Insomniac Games now under the Sony Worldwide Studios umbrella, the studio could bring a new Resistance game to life.

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PhoenixUp1741d ago

Insomniac didn’t feel all enthusiastic at continuing the series after the third installment

I don’t see how them getting bought out would encourage them to make a fourth game when they could work on another new IP or a sequel to Ratchet & Clank or Spider-Man.

Plus the third game ended on a deserved bittersweet note with a sense of finality against the Chimera. It’d be soul crushing even for this series to make all those sacrifices go to waste

purple1011741d ago

Nah. Just a new killzone from guerilla games please.

Let insomniac do a platform game..

Gaming1011740d ago

Thing is, there can be multiple teams doing multiple projects. One Insomniac team can do Spiderman, another can do Ratchet and Clank, another can do Resistance. It just depends on whether Sony is willing to grow the team enough and pay for more offices to do more work.

Fluttershy771740d ago

@Gaming101 multiple teams like Bioware doing multiple projects

NiteX1740d ago

The last Killzone game was lame. And there's no doubt Horizon 2 is there next game.

Gaming1011740d ago

Fluttershy, Insomniac isn't Bioware, dummy.
There are plenty of publishers with multiple teams running multiple projects. Sony has several studios with numerous ongoing projects and teams. I don't know why this is such a difficult concept for plebs to grasp but the disagrees keep coming in lol

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PhoenixUp1741d ago

I prefer another Killzone over another Resistance

Brave_Losers_Unite1740d ago

I dont. I love killing Chimera

UltraNova1740d ago

I want a semi-open world(think GoW) greedy, violent and super heavy atmosphere Killzone with KZ2's controls/feel with the best weapon audio possible and full on stealth elements for additional choice of approach.

As for Resistance (boy do I love this IP) I think Insomniac could do this game justice if they rebooted or continued the story with a different character. I just crave for Insomniac's weapon design ingenuity! As for multiplayer, they can go all out on a BR mode with some asymmetric PvPvE elements thrown in there like huge Chimera beasts dropping into the map at some random point and the team who kills it gets legendary loot.
Man just thinking about a modern Resistance game with a proper AAA BR made by Insomniac makes me salivate.

PhoenixUp1740d ago

I love doing so too, but there has to be context behind it.

Killing the Helghast for example is entertaining gameplay wise as much as it is narrative wise because of all the lore behind it all.

The Chimera were said to have been defeated for good after killing of converting 90% of humanity’s population as well dramatically changing earth’s climate. If after all that the Chimera came back even stronger than ever, then would be far too bleak for there to ever be any reasonable chance of defeating them for good.

Movefasta19931740d ago

Killzone has one game that's very good(2), resistance has three.

PhoenixUp1740d ago

Dafuq? Killzone 3 was received just as well as Resistance 3 was.

And Killzone: Shadow Fall sold more than the last mainline Resistance game, showing that there’s more interest in the former series than the latter

CanadianTurtle1740d ago

KillZone Shadowfall was a borefest. GG has wrote themselves into a hole with the story for that game. I don't know how they're going to fix that.

Resistance has much better gameplay, world building, story, enemy designs, weapon variety, campaigns, etc. In terms of campaigns, Resistance is leagues better. But in terms of online multiplayer, I'd give that trophy to KZ.

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-Foxtrot1740d ago

I'd like to see them reboot it and go back to what Fall of Man was like

They could always do a reboot retelling like they've already done with Ratchet and Clank then do something completely new with a sequel

I'd love if they could restructure Nathan Hale and make him a better all rounded, developed character spanning the entire trilogy. At the end of the second one he could be transported to their world or something

Resistance 3 had a nice ending that closed the book on everything so I wouldn't want them to spoilt that, too many games come back and do the whole "Oh that great evil you got rid of? Yeah it's back"

Yobo51740d ago (Edited 1740d ago )

I'm still amazed at how little recognition is given to the first resistance from "fans" esp the narration of RFOM during custscenes. Cornelia Hayes did an excellent job as Rachel Parker she gave the world an authentic sense of atmospheric urgency and dread that I haven't seen matched since Halo, It was even more engrossing at times then gears. The multiplater on Resitance 2 though just looked like saints row 3 version of gears...
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Knushwood Butt1740d ago

The sound design in RFOM blew me away. Playing that with surround sound headphones was and probably still is awesome.

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janus2251740d ago

Ah RFOM! The multiplayer was SO smooth at the time. Even with a 350 mo- 500 mo connection. That was my first online experience back then!

Knushwood Butt1740d ago

Agree. I think the series has run its course. I'd rather see a great new IP.

badz1491740d ago (Edited 1740d ago )

they can start with an easy one. Resistance Trilogy Remaster for PS4 and includes trophy patch for RFoM. there is so much win in THAT. BUT...ONLY if they let us have back Resistance 2 MP...THE WHOLE THING!

that would be one hell of a housewarming gift for the fans!

Inzo1740d ago

"It’d be soul crushing even for this series to make all those sacrifices go to waste"

I have always felt that there is room for more. For instance the Chimera could have sent out a distress signal just before the tower/ship blew up to the real threat to humanity or what if thanks to the virus Nathan Hale somehow survived?

darthv721740d ago

There are five games in the Resistance series. I think they could at least take the two portable ones and give them a proper big screen remake, like the GoW portables on the PS3 got.

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ABizzel11740d ago

No. let them work on what they want. I loved Resistance, but Insomniac proved they can work on New Ip and are hitting their Prime with the release of Spiderman, so let them work on what they want, and have a smaller 3rd party remake or remaster Resistance, and see if there's an audience for it.

Fist4achin1740d ago

Agreed. A new IP would be welcome. They've proven they can make a solid FPS, so let's make a new one!

xX-oldboy-Xx1740d ago (Edited 1740d ago )

Insomniac should do whatever they want, they deserve every freedom to deliver the game they want.

SyntheticForm1740d ago

This.

When developers do what they want their products turn out better and we all benefit. When they're ready to do Resistance they'll do Resistance.

TheUndertaker851740d ago

That's why they were independent and claimed to want that independence. If they wanted that freedom they should've stuck to their guns. Not took a payoff.

SyntheticForm1740d ago (Edited 1740d ago )

You're making it sound nefarious when this is hardly the case. There's a mutual trust here.

They know they'll be free to do what they want under Sony. Total autonomy - of course not, but Sony will likely approve and back anything they do.

This isn't to say Sony won't have any say - they'll likely encourage the immediate continuation of Spider-Man, but I doubt they'll mind and the fans sure won't.

Overall Insomniac is happy and trust Sony, or they wouldn't have taken the deal.

xX-oldboy-Xx1740d ago

TheUndertaker85 - Haha, c'mon mate - Sony will let them do what they want. This acquisition makes sense on every level.

There needs to be mutual respect between publisher and developer.

They'll find that respect at WWS, this is good for Insomniac. WWS has a huge talent pool and they share knowledge and resources amongst each other.

Very excited to see what Insomniac can achieve under WWS.

TheUndertaker851740d ago

https://www.polygon.com/201...

“ "It's hard for people in any industry to accept change, especially when you've been focused on doing things one way for so long," said Ted Price, Insomniac's president and CEO, in a recent interview with Polygon. "But as an industry, we're being forced to become comfortable [with], or at least accept, that change will be a constant for us."”

“ According to Price, Insomniac's independence is crucial to its ability to continually adapt to changing circumstances and try new things in all areas of game development. "We've always loved the opportunity to experiment with ... early on, game design models; now, delivery mechanisms and new platforms," he explained. And Insomniac's corporate culture ensures its employees are always challenged to "think creatively about not just game design, but how [they're] delivering [their] games and what audiences [they're] addressing with [their] games."”

“ Insomniac attempted to combine its history of creating hardcore games with a new platform, Facebook, when it began developing Outernauts in 2010. Price explained that the studio wanted to try a new business model but still deliver an experience that core gamers would appreciate. The company turned to Electronic Arts for help with the first half of that equation, and it didn't work out because, as Price put it, "the monetization and viral features that we had put in turned off a lot of the audience that we were hoping to attract."”

“ "I'm very proud of what we did with both those games because we took creative risks," he said. "And I think as a developer, taking creative risks is something you have to continue to do, even if people are telling you that all they want is the same recycled stuff over and over again."”

Movefasta19931740d ago

I think he means that sony shouldn't be too involved when they are making a game, just trust them to deliver if they want to make a new ip

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Imalwaysright1740d ago

Fingers crossed for a RFoM remaster.

xX-oldboy-Xx1740d ago

Fair chance any remaster would be done by BluePoint. They've done amazing work this gen.

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