First gaming benchmarks for the AMD NAVI GPUs, Radeon RX 5700XT & RX 5700, have been leaked online

DSOGaming writes: "The embargo for the third-party gaming benchmarks for AMD’s NAVI GPUs, the AMD Radeon RX 5700XT and the AMD Radeon RX 5700, will go live on July 7th and it appears that the first benchmarks have been leaked online."

[tagzskie]

As expected, amd is always behind nvidia when it comes to gpu. I just wish amd fight nvidia w/ price not performance.

[Cobra951]

My hope is that they'll realize that in short order, and reduce the prices to a competitive level. With the introduction of the "Super" versions of the 20-series RTX cards, AMD doesn't have a prayer without better prices.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

Based on these charts, the RX 5700 XT Anniversary Edition will probably match the RTX 2070 Super for the most part, sometimes underperforming, sometimes performing better, depending on the game. I guess nobody has an Anniversary Edition to test, because it really should have been included in these benchmarks.

[Anomander]

The 50th anniversary card is a slight bump to the RX 5700XT. I read on a site that it will only offer around 5-10% advantage to that of the 5700XT. With the price adjustment of the 50th and limited quantities you would be better off with the 2070 Super especially since it will support Ray Tracing. I was set to go all in with 5700XT 50th anniversary card, but the new Super cards made me change my mind.

[Sophisticated_Chap]

I'm with you Anomander, as I came to the same conclusions more or less. Although, I think im going to go with the 2080 Super, as a poor man's 2080 TI, just to ensure that I am future proofing myself as much as possible. I wont be gaming at 4K, since i'm into ultra wide 3440 x 1440 gaming. Once you go ultra wide, you cant go back to 16:9, even if it is 4k, which the 2080 Super will probably be pretty good for, at very hgh settings, for at least for the next few years.

[Gridknac]

If I have to kill my res and cut my fps just for ray tracing, then I do not care if these cards support it. I've grown quite fond of 4k/60fps and am certainly not going back to 1080p/30fps for ray tracing. Also, it is foolish to think the next gen consoles are going to do full on ray tracing. Especially giving the fact that their hardware is based on Navi tech. I'm sure console makers will achieve ray tracing through some kind of clever engineering. Much like checkerboard rendering helped this gen tick the 4k box. It's a cool feature, but its not going to dissuade people from the RX 5700 line.

[Movefasta1993]

They will do ray tracing, but most likely, it will be an option at 30fps and a performance mode at 60

[Cobra951]

You don't. You can disable RTX in games just like any other expensive effect. The fact is that with the "Super" versions of the 20-series RTX cards (see benchmarks on the Gamers Nexus YT channel, Digital Foundry, and others), you get better traditional performance, and you get optional ray tracing as a cherry on top. AMD has to compete on price, not performance. They have no other sane choice.

[Tapani]

So this would mean next-gen consoles will be having a performance roughly equivalent of RTX 2070 coupled with an SSD, and a new CPU architecture. That is an excellent improvement for $400 - $500.

This will be a bigger leap than PS3 to PS4, but won't be as big as PS2 to PS3. However, we are already super-charged with graphics, so it's time to concentrate on higher frame-rates, better AI and physics. Bigger, more intelligent worlds which look and feel more immersive.

It's kind of silly though, that AMD's 7nm cards perform worse than Nvidia's pseudo 12nm cards. When Nvidia moves to 7nm, that's when I will be buying a gaming PC that will top the eventually coming Pro consoles.

[OMGitzThatGuy]

Navi GPUs doesn't mean these Navi GPUs. Remember that's the ones in consoles are "custom made" and that most likely means made for the size of the machine and will be a cut back version.

[Cmv38]

Can't say most likely without any information of the sort. We don't know what these companies will do as far as selling at a loss or not.

[Tapani]

Well, I'm not a tech wizard but from what I've gather so far, is that it is quite difficult to have too much of secret sauce on top of the typical advantage of low level optimization consoles have. Navi's 5700 performance in a $400 box with Ryzen CPU and an SDD is already a miracle in itself. MS and Sony won't be breaking even at that price point. It's just how the business is nowadays. The evidence is speaking against all the hype now.

[Shikoku]

Waiting to build a gaming PC because of some tech is useless whatever you buy then build will be old new in 6 months.

[KwietStorm_BLM]

Maybe I'm not understanding because you used no punctuation, but what are you saying? We should never build a PC?

[Unspoken]

No, he's saying throw your money away without properly evaluating the parts you are putting into a system as you will be mandatorily be upgrading every 6 months without question.

[XBManiac]

It's a mistery, because we always have had custom NVIDIA (original Xbox NV25 and PS3) or AMD (Xbox 360, One and PS4) GPUs... and them all have been a step behind what a mid card can do. What adds value is not brute power, but "only" for consoles capacities of that hardware. For example, hardware emulation of Xbox 360 on Xbox One and original PS3 FAT... hardware enabled video capture on Xbox One... E-DRAM/T-RAM...
If consoles launch at end 2020, they have time until march 2020 to begin manufacture and maybe two more months for improving hardware or add some special "magic" on the motherboard. Anybody said 5G, HBM2 instead of GDDR6 or multilayer chiplets?

[Father__Merrin]

The 2070s is 2 frames quicker than the 5700xt for £50 more

[nismo370]

looooool!!!!
What about Shadow of the Tomb Raider and wolfeinsten?
The 2070s 35 fps quicker than the 5700xt for Wlfeinsten
The 2070s 6 fps quicker than the 5700xt for Tomb Raider

[Unspoken]

And if you play neither?

[Hurfs]

Look like AMD has already cut Radeon RX 5700 and XT cards

RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary: was $499, NOW $449
RX 5700 XT: was $449, NOW $399
RX 5700: was $379, NOW $349

Which will place the 5700xt against the 2060 not the 2070 on price.

[SegaGamer]

It's something they need to do. They have no chance if they put these cards up against the 2070 super.

They really would be screwed if Nvidia lowered their cards to counter them now.

[SegaGamer]

That is because you are also paying for features that AMD cards don't have, like ray tracing. Also, this test shows that 2070 Super absolutely destroys the 5700 XT in Wolfenstein, which makes me think this will be the case for other games too. With the Wolfenstein test, the 5700XT isn't even beating the original 2060 or even the 1070ti. That is really poor.

There is no way AMD are going to do well in the pc market with these cards unless they drastically reduce the price. The RX 5700 XT needs to be advertised as a competitor to the 2060 Super at this point, it's the only way they can compete.

AMD are going to be left behind again. They don't even have a card that competes with anything above Nvidia's 2060 super.

[Hurfs]

You can't use one outlier game to predict how much faster the 2070s will be that's just stupid you need to take a average which looks as if the card will be faster, But and it is a big but there are no game ready driver available for the Navi cards at this point in time. I would expect a few of the really bad outliers to change after a few months of driver updates but the over all FPS Average not to change to much.

As for market share.... I agree, Even when AMD/ATI beat Nvidia on FPS and cost people still went for Nvidia.

[tontontam0]

"As for market share.... I agree, Even when AMD/ATI beat Nvidia on FPS and cost people still went for Nvidia."

Having a high end card like the titan series gives the uninformed consumers the impression that all of nvidia's card are always more powerful.

But I am sick of amd fanboys who says things like, "buy a vega 64 over 1080 ti price to performance wise blablalbalbalblalbalblalbal&am p;qu ot;. F*** y*** what if I just want the most powerful, I'll buy the amd counterpart if that's more powerful I don't care if it is more expensive than nvidia.

[Projekt7]

Coming from an RX 580 8gig I can tell you that over its life span ( At least the first year or so. ) driver optimizations made a huge difference. I had bought my 580 about a month or less from launch. Shortly after the prices went crazy. The good thing though was just how much the later driver helped. I’m hoping that it will be the same case for the 5700 series. The 2070s seemed to have really responded well over the last year of driver advancements. Let’s hope this new architecture does the same and is priced at $399 or less for the XT. These are interesting times. I’ll be looking forward to upgrading in the near future to either red or green. It’s just price and performance for me at this point.

[FlyingFoxy]

Ill wait for Nvidias 3000 series, i think the 3070/3080 will be beastly for 1440p.

I think i made a good choice going 1440p 165hz Gsync, i also had a 1080p 120hz screen years ago, would never go back to 60hz on PC now. 100-120fps is quite a bit smoother than 60fps.