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Halo Infinite: Is Halo Still A System Seller?

Microsoft is hoping that Halo can help sell Project Scarlett, but there are reasons to doubt the franchise's staying power.

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FallenAngel19841799d ago

“You can certainly blame some of Halo 5’s sales shortcomings on the struggles of the Xbox One.”

That’s no excuse for Halo 5 being the lowest selling mainline game in the series. Wii U struggled far worse than Xbox One, yet original Mario Kart 8 at 8.44 million units still sold more than Halo 5.

“Halo 5 and the Master Chief Collection sold about as well as you’d expect relatively good games with a popular name on a relatively low-selling console to perform.”

That’s still no excuse. For about 3 years Xbox One still sold better than Xbox 360 with launch aligned numbers, yet Halo still suffered commercial declines. Even Gears of War 4 is the lowest selling mainline title.

Xbox One also sold more than the lifetime sales of N64 & GameCube yet its two biggest exclusives still sold less than some of the best selling titles on those systems.

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Zeegamereh1798d ago

Agree that it’s not Xbox it was the game tho it sold 5 million in 3 months and it has been confirm to have sold as good as the older halo titles it still didn’t do halo 3 numbers (15 million) I blame that on the lack of split screen the average campaign and a few other little things l

The multiplayer was really freakin good though just not on the level of halo 3

tdogg1798d ago

yes halo 5 sold 5mil in 3 months with a install base of or around 20mil so I think its hard to say will it be a system seller because the hardcore xbox fans including me were already planning to get the next xbox anyway rather halo infinite releases on launch day of new system or not and with game pass now sales wont be a definite answer to if it succeed or not but review scores will.

343_Guilty_Spark1798d ago

Agree with what you said but It's MP is superior to Halo 3.

VenomUK1798d ago (Edited 1798d ago )

If Halo Infinite is a return to form then it will likely be a big draw. However as it will also be available on Xbox One and PC it won't be necessary to buy a Scarlett to play it, so some XBO owners won't be compelled to buy a Scarlett on day 1. If it turns out to be superb quality, than XBO owners when they are ready to upgrade to a next-gen system will want to continue the experience and likely choose to buy a Scarlett over a PS5

Prince-Ali1798d ago

@343_Guilty_Spark

As a PlayStaiton guy imma be honest with you dude.. NO WAY IN HELL IT'S MULTIPLAYER IS SUPERIOR TO HALO 3! Halo 3 is one of the greatest if not top 2/3 GREATEST Multiplayers OF ALLL TIMMEEEEEE!!!!

Unspoken1798d ago (Edited 1798d ago )

Wait until the game comes out?

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StarLink1798d ago

Were are the Halo 5 and Gears 4 sales numbers?

rainslacker1798d ago

I think that first quote pretty much answers the question of the title.

If Halo isn't selling the system, then by definition, it isn't a system seller.

When Halo 5 launched, it was well enough after launch, and the bad policies had been reversed, and there wasn't a huge spike in Xbox sales on Halo 5's release....so, riddle solved.

2pacalypsenow1799d ago (Edited 1799d ago )

Halo hasn’t been a system seller since Halo 3

Zeegamereh1798d ago

Not true Halo 4 and reach both sold 11 million and sold lots of Xbox 360s

hanko141798d ago

just curious how did halo reach do?

SyntheticForm1798d ago

Depends on the game; I mean it could be. I don't think Halo has driven Xbox sales in awhile - but it was definitely what got people interested in the original Xbox.

Xbox loyalists aren't influenced by Halo as much these days.

Rude-ro1798d ago

Have to agree.

A “good” halo is a system seller.. but it will be after release.
A “hype” marketing push will not do much to move a needle after 8 years of Microsoft’s offerings or lack there of for must own titles made from Microsoft themselves

shiva11798d ago

Day one scarlett for me with halo. I really want a custom halo edition console and not just plain xbox with a disc. I wont give that extra money if its just plain box with a disc. Not happening.

Put masterchief engraving or print the cover screen on the box and make it look that its meant to be for halo. I will buy it.

WickedLester1798d ago (Edited 1798d ago )

It can be. But its going to have to be REALLY special. I think the one thing nobody talks about is the fact that Halo's original creator, Bungie is no longer making games in this franchise. There's a reason why many Xbox fans consider Reach as the last truly good Halo game. Its because thats the last one that Bungie made. When you lose the dev team that started the franchise, thats kind of a big deal. Not saying its impossible. Look at God of War. Whole different team, yet the PS4 game is amazing. However 343 has already had 2 chances to get it right and they havent yet. Maybe 3rd time will becthe charm.

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dekke1798d ago

must be rly system seller ty rarbg :P j/k dont take it so hard as u take phils meow

DaDrunkenJester1798d ago

Maybe cool it on the weed for the rest of the day.

RememberThe3571798d ago

Bro I'm high right now and I can't make sense of that.

dekke1798d ago

u ppl are internet warriors and dunno whats rarbg or piratebay ? :D

DaDrunkenJester1798d ago

I don't understand any of it my guy Haha

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Halo Infinite’s Survive the Undead mode is a COD Zombies love letter

Halo Infinite’s brand-new Survive the Undead mode is a masterwork of Forge creativity, and Call of Duty Zombies fans need to play it.

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The Best Multiplayer Xbox Game Pass Games to Play With Friends

Xbox Game Pass has some great single-player experiences, but nowadays, it's all about getting together with friends and family. Thankfully, there's a surprisingly extensive library of multiplayer titles on Game Pass to bring everyone together.

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Desperate Xbox players turn to Halo Forge for their Helldivers 2 fix

PS5-exclusive Helldivers 2 is so popular that Xbox players want a taste of democracy, and now Halo Forge will be the battleground for a Helldivers 2 remake.

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XiNatsuDragnel90d ago

That's wild but hey if forge satisfies than that's good

GamerRN89d ago

Also.... Desperate Xbox players? I mean Helldivers2 looks ok, but I wouldn't call it anything to get desperate over..

God of War and the other exclusive are more worth desperation. I don't think I'm gonna even try Helldivers2, in still trying to beat Forbidden West, and I still of Ghosts, Ragnarok and TLOU2 to play

Old McGroin89d ago

Helldivers 2 is a phenomenally good game. You should definitely check it out if you get the chance. Looks like the devs have the server capacity issue pretty much sewn up now so it's a good time to jump in.

WolfSeed89d ago

You clearly haven't tried it. It's pure crack.

MrNinosan89d ago

I thought exactly like you, until I tried Helldivers 2... and then I was hooked.
The only thing that will stop me from playing it going forward is Final Fantasy VII Rebirth next week.

1Victor89d ago

@gamer: “Also.... Desperate Xbox players? I mean Helldivers2 looks ok”

Lest be honest for a minute even Phil want it on Xbox and if it wasn’t desperation the forge player wouldn’t be trying to copy it 🤷🏿

Barlos89d ago

Nobody is desperate over a game. Its pure clickbait.

TwoPicklesGood89d ago

I enjoy Helldivers 2 but it isn’t phenomenal or anything, its just a good game. Sure us ps5 players don’t have many multiplayer games so maybe that skews perspective. What we should be worrying about Is all the bugs and issues that STILL plague the game. It shouldn’t have been released in this state.

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Hereandthere89d ago

Helldivers 2 graphically makes halo on series x look 2 gen behind.

Rdeal89d ago

Are you saying Helldivers 2 graphics are better than Halo's? if so you need glasses , graphics has to be the worst part of Helldivers 2, I have seen better on the PS4

Hypertension14089d ago (Edited 89d ago )

@Rdeal

It's not the best looking game around
but the graphics definitely look better than halo infinite. The destruction on display while also maintaining a steady performance is also very impressive.

I've also seen better on PS4, but I say the same for almost every Xbox Series X game this generation.

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Kiryu199289d ago

Why desperate Xbox fans? Why are we so split as a gaming community? So gamers wanting to play awesome games are not labeled desperate?

DarXyde89d ago

I don't think it's really unusual.

LittleBigPlanet allowed for that.

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Jin_Sakai90d ago (Edited 90d ago )

Just get a PS5 and be done with it. Four Xbox exclusives are making their way over with more to follow down the road.

343_Guilty_Spark89d ago (Edited 89d ago )

When is Halo Infinite coming?

Hellblade 2 coming?

Jin_Sakai89d ago

Soon enough.

Phil Spencer: “The biggest games will be more than just one platform“

https://x.com/xbox/status/1...

VincentVanBro89d ago

Neither of those are worth an entire console so who cares?

DazaMc89d ago

Anytime now, who knows.

MrNinosan89d ago

Probably within a year, but don't worry. They will still be available on the box of your choice, except if Switch is your choice.

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babadivad89d ago

Or just play it on your PC...

InUrFoxHole89d ago

Why get either console? All are coming to pc anyway

Shane Kim89d ago

If it wasn't for the initial cost, then I would never get a console.

InUrFoxHole88d ago

Honestly pc is great but I love the convenience of a console

OptimusDK89d ago

You couldn’t help yourself right Jin

Jin_Sakai88d ago

I just couldn’t help but tell the reality of the situation.

goldwyncq89d ago

Or just get a PC because all Xbox and PS games are coming to it sooner or later. Nintendo's the only company practicing true exclusivity nowadays.

Tedakin89d ago

Sony's present said first party games will be on pc and other platforms too. So what? And before you say he just meant "pc and playstation" that was debunked. Day 1 pc is definitely coming from Sony, ending your precious exclusives.

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Neonridr90d ago

I remember the good old days of Halo 3 and the Forge. Some wild game games came from it.

RaidenBlack90d ago

Just let Coalition develop or at least assist in developing the next Halo ... 343 alone is not enough

Jin_Sakai89d ago

They already assisted with development.

“Gears of War studio The Coalition helped out with Halo Infinite”

https://www.vg247.com/gears...

RaidenBlack89d ago

Then lead the next Halo development with 343 assisting instead ... as well as leverage some of the other new acquired studios if possible

neomahi88d ago

That would be smart, but makes too much sense. BUT, The Coalition is pretty much dead, without Rod Ferguson, there's nothing there. That was the point of that team was that he was heading it up but even Rod Ferguson turned down being the boss and head of his own studio making Microsoft money to go to Blizzard, and isn't it ironic, look where's he's at now. Cliff Blezinski offered to go back to work on Gears and Xbox (one of their biggest IPs) shut him down and told him no. Gears put Xbox on the map, and they told him no. Sony wouldn't tell David Jaffe no if he asked to return to God of War or Twisted Metal, Jaffe is just to lazy, but Xbox shut down Blezinski, completely shocked me.

So, you're right, kinda, but that blood isn't there anymore, the soul of that team is gone so I don't think you'd get the quality you think that you would

Jin_Sakai88d ago

“Then lead the next Halo development with 343 assisting instead ... as well as leverage some of the other new acquired studios if possible“

Certain Affinity would be good but who knows what’s happening there. And I’d suggest keeping CoD studios away from the franchise unless you want Halo of Duty.

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PhillyDonJawn89d ago (Edited 89d ago )

Halo Infinite forge is a million times better. maps don't even look like forge made but look like actual dev created maps now

Neonridr89d ago

oh I bet, I just have fond memories of all the different things people came up with. I can only imagine what it's like now.

PhillyDonJawn89d ago

Hell yeah I remember the forge map toilet 😂 good times. Poo and paper everywhere

Blad3runner0090d ago

Don't get this mentality. Nothing is stopping these people from buying a PS5

I don't get fanboyism and refusing to purchase a competitors console.

purple10190d ago

I didn't used to get it, when is was Sega vs Nintendo, but now companies charging for online play, I dont wan to pay 2 separate subs, so you make a choice. also if you were to say invest in extra controllers for mates or whatever, I suppose it all adds up

anast89d ago

So, PS5 is the choice, right?

PhillyDonJawn89d ago (Edited 89d ago )

You're thinking too much into it. Forge creators make anything and everything. This is nothing new. Call of duty and other games have been made in halo forge as well. I was just playing Nuketown and hot potato 2 weeks ago lol (hot potato fun asf btw)

PaleMoonDeath89d ago

Not everyone can afford it mate, some have kids, families etc to support. Very close minded statement, adults don't necessarily care which machine, but money's tight nowadays, bring them Helldivers so we can get the damn Halo & Gears armour on PS5 lol

EvertonFC89d ago

I wanna see helgeist, scorpions, crimera, flying sting rays even some knack enemies etc

PaleMoonDeath89d ago

@Everton, DUDE! KILLZONE 2 HELGHAST SKINS! COULD YOU IMAGINE

Charlieboy33389d ago

They hate Playstation to the point of insanity....yet want a Playstation game on Xbox so bad. These people don't even make sense in their OWN minds...

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EvertonFC88d ago (Edited 88d ago )

Agreed fella, same can be said for the playstation lot too though lol. We would all be over a gears collection, halo collection, Forza and ori

DivineHand12589d ago

I hope all the persons who agreed with you have an Xbox. Being a multi-console owner is the best thing for a gamer. When Palworld came out I could boot up the Xbox and play it there. I also just started playing Helldivers 2 yesterday and I am having a great time with it.

The gunplay is good so persons who are on the fence for this reason, don't be. The gunplay in this can go up against Halo, Destiny, The Division 2 etc. The gameplay loop is also good with a reasonable progression system. It doesn't have any RPG mechanics so don't expect to see numbers popping up when you shoot an enemy. Progression in this game allows you to unlock cosmetics, weapons and air drops from orbit to aid you on your mission.

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anast89d ago

HA! All the while Xbox games are popping up in PS stores. To be honest, on day exclusivity will probably be gone and each will just provide a streaming service bundle, but why not have fun while we can.

crazyCoconuts89d ago

And to get you to pick one streaming service over another they would have....

anast89d ago (Edited 89d ago )

You do know how to ask direct questions, right? This is a serious question.

They would have different app features, different UI's, timed exclusivity, and different video game series (live action and animation). Also the streaming services would be tied to mobile phones of choice (Sony vs MS; maybe even Nintendo will get in on this, phone thing.) which have their own reasons for purchasing.

Of course this is in the distant future. They don't call me the Oracle for no reason.

crazyCoconuts89d ago

Exclusives... The answer was exclusives.
But, you being the Oracle you already knew that, didn't you?

anast89d ago

"one day exclusivity will probably be gone"

Yes. I am the Oracle. When this happens you can say I am right.

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