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User Reviews: Whiny Kids Embarrass Us All. Again.

A group of frustrated players have responded to the announcement by flooding user reviews with negative feedback. Most of these fits voice anger over a perceived betrayal, a theft of their time and money.

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fiveby91802d ago (Edited 1802d ago )

User Reviews > "Professional Reviews"

This attempted shaming of consumers is pathetic. We all know too often publishers and studios under deliver by a wide margin what they sold to the public. Just because you feel you worked hard doesn't mean you deserve praise. Don't over hype a game and then under deliver and expect everyone to just say it's ok because you feel you worked hard. Now studios need their safe space too?

RabbitFly1802d ago

He still makes some valid points. Many games have gotten overhyped for the wrong reasons and particulary towards the wrong people. The disapointment that follows from that is not just the fault of the developers or the publishers. If you buy something because you thought it was something other than what it was and the relevant information was available to you. You can only really blame your own ignorrance.

I. E. When games like Destiny, Anthem or The Division are all marketed as lite-mmo gaas titles. When people then go on to buy destiny because the want another Halo or Anthem because they want another Mass Effect. They have no one to blame but themselves.

Don't get me wrong. These games deserve criticism, but all too often the majority of criticism is entirely unrelated to the property being sold.

Its like they but a boat thinking it was going to be a car, then go on to complain that it was not a car, despite the fact that it always was and is a boat will never change.

staticall1802d ago

Ah, another example of «gaming journalism», calling everyone who complains «whiny kids». People paid money for this game and soon they will not be able to play it anymore, they have every right to went their frustration in any way, shape or form they see fit. And you do know that some people might've bought the game but didn't play it for any reason, now their money just vanished, basically.

Also, this:
«The salesman pitches to you the perfect car. It’s fast, efficient, safe, and stylish. It’s everything you wanted. However, only the chassis is currently available for purchase. The vehicle is pending the completion of an experimental cold fusion engine, which will be shipped to you for free when it’s ready. Excited, you buy the hulk. Unfortunately, the fusion engine never makes it to production.

In a meta sense, the salesman probably shouldn’t have sold you hard on something he didn’t have. The manufacturer really should’ve had the experimental engine ready before selling units. Ultimately though, you’re still the idiot that bought just half a car.»

a. calling people «idiots», nice move, mr. «journalist»;
b. is completely wrong. This is not Kickstarter, when they sell you an idea, a pitch. Using your analogy - car is working, you can use it (for a price), it just missing some pieces, like sits, doors and stuff (aka, missing features), sometimes it turns off for no reason (aka, bugs and glitches), but hey, it's early access. But now, it will stop working, for no reason, someone will just flip the switch to "OFF". And developers are saying they do not want to continue to support it, they don't want to search for a buyer, yet they already had Atlas coins (aka, microtransactions). And you expect people to not be angry about it?

And another thing, why do you care? Game is closing down, who cares about the rating now?! You can't even buy the freaking game anymore.

Razzer1802d ago (Edited 1802d ago )

Whiny bloggers embarrass themselves......again.

How did anyone expect people to react to the news that a MMO they paid money for was going away?

TK-661800d ago (Edited 1800d ago )

Early access... This is literally why you don't buy early access games.

With that said article is stupid because people aren't reacting like he says in the comment section: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

BrianOBlivion1802d ago

This is one of the most disgusting articles I've read in a long time. It and it's author are disconnected from reality and the language used to reference gamers and it's own audience is pathetic, hostile and outright insulting.
"Giving gamers a voice in journalism" is ironic and disingenuous. Coin-drop is now on my blacklist.

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Why Xbox believes it must cut costs and close studios

Companies, particularly public companies like Microsoft, need to grow.

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gold_drake11h ago

i mean its pretty simple, they spent close to 30 billion in acquiring activision, they thought they'd make it bk no problem, and that didnt happen.

its just shit that because of MS's miscalculation alot of people lost their jobs.

Jingsing7h ago

This is exactly what many people said would happen including the CMA and FTC. Lies lies and more lies and they allowed a $69 billion buy out to happen.

gold_drake7h ago

oh yeh it was 70 billion. that was my bad haha even worse.

thesoftware7307h ago(Edited 7h ago)

gold,

You can't be serious, right?

Do you think that MS thought they would make 80bill in a year & Half? They haven't even released titles under MS yet, lol.

But in fact, that A/B revenue is already paying off, look at the last earnings call. That $80 billion is long-term money, my guy, no sane person/company would think they would make that back in any short-term situation, it's a long-term investment.

Let's play silly then. If MS's reason for laying off staff and closing studios was due(which it really was not) to the A/B deal, tell me what Sony's reason was for past studio closures, the recent 900-person layoffs, closing Sony London, shutting down Dreams, and closing Japan Studio? Zipper? Psygnosis? cuts at all their internal studios.

Keep in mind, you are claiming MS's reason is because of the A/B deal; please explain Sony's reason.

Hofstaderman7h ago

You actually still defending them? Sheesh.....

gold_drake7h ago

this is not a sony vs MS debate. dont make it something it isnt.

and of course not, but im pretty sure they thought they'd make more money after the deal. they didnt, and closed off some studios.

its pretty insane to think there is any other reason for the closure of studios in this case.

romulus237h ago(Edited 7h ago)

(It really was) due to the Activision Blizzard deal and the loss of physical sales due to gamepass. You keep bringing up Sony in all your posts about this, stop deflecting and trying to change the topic, this is about MS and what they are doing.

BehindTheRows6h ago

Has nothing to do with Sony. Stay on topic.

notachance6h ago

once in a while you see someone too invested in their make-believe console war that everything happened has to be connected to said war…

a bit of banter between fans is normal, this crusade you’re doing now isn’t.

Chevalier6h ago

Wow idiotic. You bring up very old closures not that there haven't been recent ones from Playstations, but, seriously stop deflecting. This has NOTHING to do with Playstation.

Does Playstation got $3 trillion behind them and daddies wallet? No they don't so stop making a fool of yourself.

Xbox has never been profitable really and they just keep losing money so between their worst hardware sales, terrible 3rd party sales and now terrible 1st party sales.

Gamepass numbers that are no longer being announced shows their numbers after 3 years of missed targets has flatlined. Plus their recent gains up to 34 million were ONLY because they folded Gold members in too. Absolutely take your idiotic rhetoric out of here. Keep on topic without deflecting.

S2Killinit6h ago

Ayayayay with these xbox/MS excuses.

Reaper22_1h ago

How dare you mention Sony! Everyone here knows when Sony closes a studio and lay off workers it was the right thing to do. Even when they bought Gaikai and fired almost everyone it was the right thing to do.

Gamers can be such hypocrites sometimes.

andy859m ago

Is it? That's revenue not profit. Completely different.

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thesoftware7304h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Drake,

"this is not a sony vs MS debate. dont make it something it isnt."

You are correct that it's not an MS Vs Sony Topic, but when exaggeration and imagination mix from a one-sided social group, similar examples are needed to ground radical thoughts; in this instance, the example was that shutting down 3,4,5, even 6 studios during a restructure/ buyout/acquisition is not some anomaly(it can suck) that has to be dissected or spell doom and gloom.

"But I'm pretty sure they thought they'd make more money after the deal. They didn't, and they closed off some studios."

But they did make more money, a lot, actually; the last earnings call showed a huge growth in profit, almost all due to A/B revenue.

"its pretty insane to think there is any other reason for the closure of studios in this case."

The fact that they did make money, kinda throws this out the window, and besides, you don't wake up and say, hey let's close a studio, you look at the output, you look at the dev as a whole, the long term and short term, you weigh it against all other studios and goals, you keep key members, ect..then you close if they are the weakest links...which by MS analysis they were.

Again, I will make a small Sony comparison, just so some of you can understand and see past the bias; Insomniac, ND, and Bungie have made some of the best games ever created, yet Sony saw fit to cut jobs in every of these studios, even tho Insomniac & ND are the biggest producers of PS games, leagues ahead better than Tango and Arkane, yet, they saw cuts, mind you, while being the TOP produces of PS first party. They were told to cut costs, and more jobs may be on the line, and Bungie is being threatened by a hostile Sony takeover. Put that in perspective, as I know that layoffs and dev closures are different, but if the best of the best is getting cut off, it is less than surprising, that lesser studios are closing.

@Cheva,
My response fits well with your comments as well. You even went on to prove that the dev closures are not just due to A/B acquisition. Then you point out Sony has less money than MS, inferring that MS should keep devs open that they see as lesser earners, while Sony having less money makes it okay to close them. lol...it doesn't work that way.

gold_drake4h ago

im not reading all of that. u have ur opinion, i have mine.

thats rly it.

but this aint sony vs ms.

ApocalypseShadow4h ago

You're trying to compare a 100 billion company to a company that has 3 TRILLION worth. SIE has to live or die on their own. And in turn, PlayStation has helped the main company again and again. Sony has to balance out what is working and not working in the company.

While Xbox has Daddy Warbucks footing the bill to keep the platform afloat. They have been bleeding money from Nvidia hardware in the OG Xbox, the RROD fiasco, the attempted 2013 DRM nonsense and the lies about being the most powerful console in the world and the losses of paying out millions to prop up a service hoping it catches on with enough subscribers to justify its existence.

They're not comparable if Xbox isn't allowed to live or die by its actions. It's subsidized. Revenue isn't profit. And if they were profiting on their own, they wouldn't be closing developers. If they were profiting, they wouldn't need Daddy Warbucks spending 80 to 100 billion buying up 3rd party publishers to sustain a loss leading platform.

They stopped announcing game sales, stopped announcing hardware sales, stopped announcing game pass subscribers, they are putting games on their competitors platforms but you're telling us that they are doing great even after killing jobs and closing developers at Xbox.

Stop drinking the Kool aid. You're drunk.

anast7h ago

They are going to use AI for a large portion of the game development process. Upper management need bonuses and the shareholders need more money. So, people will lose their jobs.

Skuletor7h ago

Maybe they were already using AI to make business decisions, which would explain why they closed Hi-Fi Rush's studio, then said they need more games like Hi-Fi Rush not long after that announcement.

Crows906h ago(Edited 6h ago)

They shouldn't have bought any studios. Some is okay...but they went on a shopping spree...stupid

Einhander19726h ago

The better question is why did Microsoft buy publishers for a service they were subsidizing they knew couldn't support.

And why are so many websites trying to make people feel sorry for Microsoft instead of truly criticizing the fact they are closing studios and killing jobs that would have been fine if Microsoft themselves hadn't gotten involved.

Quit feeling sorry for Microsoft and start feeling sorry for the industry and the all the gamers who are actually losing out.

THIS IS MICROSOFTS FAULT.

RNTody6h ago

The first thing that happens after any major acquisition or merger is a consolidation of the whole new portfolio, which includes cutting any excess, bloat or portfolios that don't fit the larger MO of the big boy. So far, it's been par for the course with Microsoft and that's why gamers have been so against this acquisition. Tango Gameworks is the beginning. You think Microsoft wants to pay to keep small timers like Ninja Theory in business?

There is absolutely zero evidence to suggest that Microsoft will improve any of these studios, but plenty to suggest that they will get rid of what they don't need and hold onto the IP. The real agenda of the acquisition was always to acquire The Elder Scrolls, Diablo, Fallout, Call of Duty, Candy Crush etc. that will create millions in passive revenue stream for Microsoft regardless of where the games release. Microsoft simply wants their cut.

Because of Games Pass Microsoft has no interest in investing in new IP which is risky and requires creative talent they can neither nurture nor manage. Game Pass has also not grown in the way Microsoft expected it to, even post acquisitions. Therefore the logical thing to do, without serious money makers to release, is to cut as much cost as possible.

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RTX 50 series cooling tested up to 600W, but users want Nvidia to fix the adapter first

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