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Project xCloud: More for Gamers and Developers

Microsoft:
Last fall, we pulled back the curtain on Project xCloud – our game-streaming technology. Our vision for Xbox is that you can play the games you want, with the people you want, on the devices you want. Project xCloud brings us closer to fully realizing that vision. Our teams around the globe have been hard at work, building out and testing the system. We recently rolled out an alpha version to Microsoft employees through our take home program and are using the feedback to make improvements, ensuring Project xCloud offers customers a great experience.

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slate911818d ago

"Today you can play three generations of amazing games on Xbox One. That means that Project xCloud has the technical capability to stream more than 3,500 games, without any changes or modifications required by a developer. In other words, developers will be able to dramatically scale their existing games across devices, with no additional development, no additional code base maintenance and no separate updates. When a developer updates the Xbox One version of their title, those updates will also apply to all versions available on Project xCloud without any additional work."

Well then.

RainOfTerror1818d ago

not really anything earth-shattering there, that's pretty much the idea of the cloud.

timotim1818d ago

Having over 3.5K games to play, anytime, anywhere, on a vast array of device types is pretty impressive. Services like PSNow does currently provide streaming, but it's only to consoles and PC with only older games available. Shield exists too, but doesn't have a lot of console games available.

Razzer1818d ago

"not really anything earth-shattering there'

Yeah, it isn't. MS has already said that xCloud would be powered by Xbox One console. So when you log into the xCloud app you are actually firing up an actual console a long way away. So why wouldn't you be able to play games that an Xbox One can play?

pinkcrocodile751818d ago

RoT doesn't kow much if thats what he/she/ze/it thinks. Pull herad out from up @rse RoT

RainOfTerror1818d ago (Edited 1818d ago )

jeez, you guys are going at it good LOL

All I meant to say was that the statement Microsoft issued revealed absolutely nothing we did not know already, no new revelations of any kind.

The concept of being able to play through the cloud has been around for years now, the ability to play any game on any type of device that has a screen and with an inet connection is not new, albeit every other company thus far has failed/shut down.

A game being up to date through the cloud? That's like bring surprised the light turns on when you flip the switch.

The real hoopla was when Microsoft pimped Crackdown 3 as being improved due to cloud computing, and we all know what a disappointment that was. When they deliver on that promise, then I'll give them credit..

Razzer1817d ago

@RainOfTerror

These are sensitive types, unfortunately. You said nothing that wasn't the truth.

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Aenea1817d ago

@timotim

"Having over 3.5K games to play, anytime, anywhere, on a vast array of device types is pretty impressive."

Indeed it is! Now show which devices I can use NOW to play those 3500 games on!

"Services like PSNow does currently provide streaming, but it's only to consoles and PC with only older games available."

But I can play those games NOW on console and PC, xCloud is not available yet...

"Shield exists too, but doesn't have a lot of console games available."

None actually since it is a streaming game PC, supports Steam, BattleNET, etc. And supports a heck of a lot more games than 3500 ;)

Vasto1818d ago

Super hyped to see this at E3!

Marioraider181818d ago (Edited 1818d ago )

I do cloud gaming on PC and it kinda sucks. Input lag, really bad blacks, fog, and particles and not native display. I have 300 mbps internet just fyi.

shiva11817d ago (Edited 1817d ago )

You from north pole?

Marioraider181816d ago

Nope I live by NYC. The server that Im connected to is in NYC. And my latency is low.

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AngainorG7X1818d ago

Ok i want to ask a silly question because i'm not really familiar with this Xcloud/streaming stuff.

From what i've read (and please correct me if im wrong), if you are using Azure cloud for example, you will be able to play your games on a phone, on a tablet etc. In other words you just need a "device" and a subscription to Azure Cloud to get this thing rolling. Same goes for Sony, they will be using Azure (most likely) and we will be able to play all these beautiful games like God Of War and Uncharted 4 on a tablet or a phone etc. Now my question is since you need a "device" in order to be able to stream these games, will there be any limitations on the devices that you will be able to use in order to stream. I mean for example Xbox One X is considered as a "device". Will i be able to stream via this specific device (Xbox) games that are Exclusives to Playstation using my Xbox Controller and my TV? And vice versa (using Playstation 5 and Dualshock 5 to stream... Fable 4?)

Can someone please enlight me how this works?

Thank you in advance

XBManiac1818d ago

If there is an xCloud app for your PlayStation 5, you will be able to play those 3.500 Xbox Games on your PlayStation 5. If the app is available on PS4, the same. If the app for xCloud is launched on Mac OS, too. Maybe, that app is named Mixer. Like the Stadia app is called Youtube.

Razzer1818d ago

I would assume it would work exactly how PS Now works. If the device has the streaming app then it will be able to stream/play the games.

"will there be any limitations on the devices that you will be able to use in order to stream"

Yes. You will only be able to stream to devices for which the platform has created an official app.

crazyCoconuts1818d ago

Some people don't like to hear the comparison to PSNow, but yes it's the same idea + extra spin.

Parasyte1817d ago

Also, if the hardware of said device can support it along with having a strong enough internet/WiFi connection.

rainslacker1817d ago

The device will have to have an app, unless they allow streaming through a web browser, in which case some devices may work with that. The limitations will depend on the device itself. For instance, if your mobile device only supports 720p, then it won't stream 1080.

XBManiac1817d ago

Stadia is that, you only need a platform with access to Youtube and compatible with a Stadia controller (or, as commented, a Windows or Android compatible controller). It can be an old smarphone or the best of PCs, as well as any SmartTV that can play Youtube videos on streaming.

rainslacker1817d ago

Not really sure why I got disagrees for a rather innocuous comment, but whatever.

@Sir

So I've heard. I was talking about xCloud, and didn't notice the OP asked about streaming in general. xCloud apparently has some onscreen controllers for their app. It was demonstrated with Forza. There's a lot of buttons to account for though, so I'm curious how well it really works. Even large screens have fingers take up a lot of the graphics real estate.

meep3161818d ago (Edited 1818d ago )

The only reason this makes any sense is because it gives publishers 100% control over their games, no piracy, no lending, no used games, and cheating would be super hard. There is no other reason to run games sever side, especially going forward.

Atom6661818d ago

No other reason?

Removing hardware from the consumer equation almost completely removes barriers for entry in the market.

Can't afford a $300 console to play the new game? No problem.

meep3161818d ago (Edited 1818d ago )

If you can’t afford $300 you aren’t going to be able to afford to stream games. Plus you have to remember, an iPhone can already play fortnite at 60 FPS... in a few years what device won’t be powerful enough to game on? Stop drinking the kool aid, this doesn’t make sense.

TacoTaco1818d ago

If you can't afford a $300 console you can't afford a $10-$15/month subscription?

Are you joking? Lol I guess everyone who subscribes to Netflix may as well buy a Switch since it's so comparable.

meep3161818d ago (Edited 1818d ago )

@TacoTaco its not just the subscription, you need the bandwidth. You're telling me someone who cant afford $300 has the required internet connection and can afford $10-$15 a month? That wont even include every game Im sure, youre going to have to pay for most big AAA games one way or another on top of everything else.

meep3161818d ago

Am I being astro turfed here? or is this just the effects of heavy amounts of pr? Almost nobody was on board with streaming mere weeks ago.

Atom6661818d ago

I wish you were being astro turfed, I could use the money.

You made a statement that there was no other reason for it. I disagree with you. It makes business sense to eliminate the barrier for entry to get straight to selling content to consumers no matter their hardware.

If mobile capabilities will be so great, why even bother buying a PS5, or a new graphics card? Just wait on your iPhone games. But I think you have a long way to go before that becomes viable.

I don't like many aspects of it, but if I could play a high end AAA game without buying a powerful PC or that particular console, cool, I'll try it out. Maybe I only buy one of the consoles next gen.

If I'm traveling and want to play something that I would need a console or rig to play, streaming would be a decent option.

Broadband is becoming a basic utility for many people. I'm not persuaded by this idea that having broadband = having the means or desire to spend $ on hardware - especially when it becomes more viable to no longer need the hardware.

meep3161818d ago (Edited 1818d ago )

I don’t think you can see the forest for the tress when mobile is already much bigger than the consoles.
“If mobile capabilities will be so great, why even bother buying a PS5, or a new graphics card? Just wait on your iPhone games. But I think you have a long way to go before that becomes viable.”
And we have a long way to go before streaming is viable for most people (it’s god awful now), and by the time it is viable mobile will already be “viable” (it already is for millions, besting console revenue easily). So what is your point? Fortnite is 60 FPS today, it’s not as far off as you seem to think. Apple is also putting their software on all major brands of tvs now and google has dabbled a bit too. Your phone will become the hub and connect to anything, no point in running games server side except for control. Vulcan API is also huge for easy cross platform development.

Atom6661817d ago

Streaming is viable for many right now. It's about to grow exponentially this year. Cell phones capable of running AAA games? Not so much.

You keep using Fortnite as your crutch here, but what about the 40gb game I downloaded to my console yesterday? You think it's viable to expect phones to replace my ability to play that game anytime soon? Hell, that would have taken up most of my storage space in my too-damn-expensive phone as it is.

It looks like I'll be able to stream it soon, though.

Whether it's by Apple or Google, your downloaded mobile game is just as "controlled" as a streaming service.

We could all buy our movies on physical or as digital downloads. Many of us choose to stream instead. Why is that?

Cost and ease of access. Now why might game streaming also find success? It's a logical business move, and might be attractive to a lot of consumers as an option due to its low cost and ease of access.

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Atom6661817d ago

Why would I think it would be free? Is Netflix free? Is PS Now free? No, but it's cheaper than purchasing the necessary hardware and physical copies.

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NeoGamer2321817d ago (Edited 1817d ago )

That is completely false. It benefits gamers by allowing them to play on more devices rather then just sitting in front of a console. I can play on my tablet, phone, PC, etc... All without having to buy the game on all those devices or install the game on those devices.

I for one travel a lot.... And it is a complete pain to pack my "portable" console setup with me everywhere. If I could stream on a tablet I would do it in a heartbeat and leave my "portable" console setup where it should be.... At the bottom of the ocean as an anchor.

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Microsoft is experimenting with ad views for access to hundreds of Xbox games

Free games? In THIS economy? Well, in exchange for your eyeballs at least. (Figuratively, not literally... although don't give them ideas.)

What you need to know

• Microsoft Gaming CFO Tim Stuart recently described how in the future, you may be able to view ads to gain access to Xbox Game Pass.

•Recent Xbox Series X|S code strings we've seen seem to corroborate this, with the ability to earn 15 minute blocks of Xbox Game Pass access in exchange for watching ads.

•Game Pass across PC, Xbox, and Cloud features hundreds of games in exchange for a low monthly fee.

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darthv72156d ago

Hmm..... I used to earn GP by way of searching with Bing but I hear the rewards program is being revamped. I still earn points but it seems they did change the amount you get per search. I dont know how i feel about this. It sounds like they are going the Youtube route where right in the middle of something you are enjoying, an ad pops up and you have to sit through it (if it does not have a skip option after 5 seconds).

I pay for my GP access, so this wouldnt really bother me but I can see it affecting plenty of others. It reminds me of the rumor about how some game companies (EA, Ubisoft) were toying with the idea of running ads before you ever get into the game. Like the old days of renting movies from Blockbuster and not being able to skip the previews (yes, some DVD had a non skip option for previews). I pay for stuff so i wouldnt have to deal with ads, but even now they are encroaching the very things i pay a premium for.

This whole thing is just..... a bad idea.

purple101156d ago

I remember those dvds with non-skippable adds! Wow that takes me back.

Plague-Doctor27155d ago

@babadivad

Yup. You'd have to pop in the DVD before going to the bathroom, grabbing a snack, etc

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shinoff2183155d ago

Such a shame cause even if you don't think this is a big deal what's next they put ads on ultimate gamepass and the free one gets more. This is disgusting. Yes even if Sony goes this route I'll feel the same. We got enough ads in this world ffs

purple101155d ago

Some recent studies show the average person sees 4000 adverts a day

ChasterMies155d ago

The average person should start using ad blockers.

ChasterMies155d ago (Edited 155d ago )

“even if Sony goes this route I'll feel the same”

This isn’t a “both sides” issue. Sony has never had ads on the PlayStation Home Screen but Microsoft has laden Xbox’s Home Screen with ads since the Xbox 360. Microsoft has put ads on Windows 11 OS! Microsoft is basically the bad guy from “Ready Player One”.

shinoff2183155d ago

I know that hence the key word If. Sonys never given an indication of this where as ms definitely has.

Christopher155d ago

I mean, it's not never, but it's not like Xbox. Sony has promoted things with icons on the XMB, it's just really rare.

EvertonFC155d ago

They could do GP free with ads, GP £20 per month without ads, which one would the casual/hardcore choose ?

Christopher155d ago

"Hi, we've received your comment submission. Please watch this 30s ad to finalize and publish your comment to N4G.com. Thank you."

We're just having our eyelids forced open more and more every day it feels like.

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ApocalypseShadow155d ago

You don't say?/S

You mean the company that puts ads on the dashboard, tried to force a camera on Xbox One to push ads is experimenting with ads for game pass access? No. You must be joshing. Lol

Wouldn't put it past them.

crazyCoconuts155d ago

Getting people locked into subs and advertising to them is what passes as innovation at Microsoft.
At least they're keeping Sony on their toes with the threat of competition

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Microsoft Launches New Bing Feature Making Xbox Cloud Gaming Supported Titles Playable via Search

Microsoft has launched a new Bing feature that lets you experience Xbox Cloud Gaming supported games just by searching for it.

Profchaos582d ago

Microsoft still trying to get us to start using bing and I'm still not buying it

darthv72582d ago

It's not a bad way to earn points. Esp if you do a lot of searching for stuff. I haven't had to pay for Gamepass in over a year because i am constantly earning enough points to pay for it. I've had upwards of 161k lifetime points and currently only 2k away from another free month of GPU.

Profchaos581d ago

Do you do a lot of searching because bing can't find anything on the first go? /S

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Play Halo Infinite, Deathloop, and More with Xbox Cloud Gaming on the Logitech G CLOUD Handheld

At Xbox, we’re always looking to make gaming available to more people in more ways. So today, we’re announcing that Xbox Cloud Gaming will be available in more places with the Logitech G CLOUD Gaming Handheld when it launches in North America on October 17.

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darthv72602d ago

I can pretty much do the same thing with my steamdeck. I get that MS doesn't need to make their own dedicated portable... not anymore. this unit for $300 looks to be pretty decent for other stuff as well, not just xcloud gaming.

crazyCoconuts601d ago

Fact that you could get a steam deck for $100 more and play a wide variety of games without an awesome network connection... Dunno, this device could be ok for around the house I guess, but for a lot cheaper imo. Like $150

XiNatsuDragnel602d ago

I see very interesting but xbox portable would probably be better imo

Sgt_Slaughter601d ago

The portable market is dead unfortunately. Phones pretty much ended that as we know it. Going from 150M+ units sold for the DS to only 75M or so for the 3DS is why Nintendo combined markets, Phones chewed right into it.

crazyCoconuts601d ago

I agree with you for the most part, but the switch has been really successful and I think I read somewhere that hardly anyone plays it docked, so it's not being used as a hybrid but I could be wrong.
You're right in that the market is WAY smaller than it used to be

crazyCoconuts601d ago

It would be even better for MS to make GamePass/MS store work on the steam deck. That way you're not locked into just their marketplace. But for an Xbox fan (I don't mean this in a bad way) I can see how a windows based portable that just plays PC game pass/MS store games would be a neat thing indeed

darthv72601d ago

to your comment above, I dont play my oled switch docked. to me its a waste of that screen. If i want to play docked i will use my sons regular switch model.

UltimateOwnage601d ago

Cloud gaming on a handheld, hard pass... Cloud gaming is still pretty terrible even on a dedicated, cable connected device let alone one connecting over wifi. Sounds like someone in charge at Logitech loves the buzz word “cloud” and demanded a handheld be made regardless of whether it was a good idea. I’ll stick with my steam deck.

saint_seya601d ago

Well it works great for me. I guess on cloud gaming depends on your net, servers and how far are you from servers. Dunno where the servers are located here in Argentina, but works great for me, feels like is faster response time than playing regular games online with 50-60 latency.

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