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Ex SCEA Boss: Sony Is Well Positioned for Next-Gen but Will Face Exponentially Greater Competition

Former SCEA boss Jack Tretton said Sony is well position for next-gen as the current market leader but will face much greater competition this time around.

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uptownsoul1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

Ex PlayStation America Boss Jack Tretton: "Their [Sony's] business model obviously worked well for them the last time around, and it doesn’t look like they’re going to deviate from that."

(source: https://venturebeat.com/201... - sentence 3 from question 12)

Tech51841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

the future - pc is going to have a party.
cloud gaming from both sony, MS and youtube/google. Epic game store, Steam. and then 3rd party emulation.

bouzebbal1840d ago

There was zero competition this gen.. Let's hope next gen delivers on this

FalconofLucis981840d ago

I love Jack Tretton, miss the guy. He was a great CEO for Sony. Particularly remember his Sony E3 2013 conference.

indysurfn1839d ago

Did you hear that Stadia? Read between the lines your just a wrinkle! Here let Sony, Nintendo, and Microsoft iron you out.

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NarutoFox1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

They have no competition for first party exclusive games but I can't speak on all the other features yet like cloud gaming. Games make a system shine something Microsoft hasn't learn yet

KwietStorm_BLM1840d ago

Next generation hasn't started yet, so you can't speak on games either. Everyone starts at 0.

milohighclub1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

Kwiet I think he's basing that on the last 2 generations. Halo, gears, forza repeat. For 2!? Yes 2!? Generations. That's what now 13/14 years? That's how long its taken them to realise they actually need games on a games console.
There may be more exclusives next gen but don't expect much more than GAAS.

bluefox7551840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

@Kwiet Historically speaking, he's right, they have never had any real competition. I don't see why that would change now, it might, but doesn't seem likely. Especially with regard to single player AAA titles, which other companies see as less lucrative, and don't even really pursue.

DJStotty1840d ago

@milo

still banging the halo gears forza drum? They have done much more than those 3 ip's but you probably will not attempt to recognise them.

Your comment screams pure fanboyism

We have not had halo for 4 YES 4!!!! years YES YEARS!!!! or gears in 3 YES 3!!!! years yes YEARS!!!

So your rinse and repeat comment is based on the non factual Sony drivel you get drip fed from unconfirmed sources

Kribwalker1840d ago

Nintendo has Sony beat on Highly Rated exclusives the last 2 gens. Funny how everyone always forgets that

Nintentional1840d ago

Nintendo exclusives have always been better than Sony exclusives.

NarutoFox1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

@Kribwalker
Nintendo is not competing with Sony and Microsoft

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codelyoko1841d ago

That's why they partnered with Microsoft to improve PlayStation Now

-Foxtrot1841d ago

Funny seemed like a two way thing, they partnered with each other

Not one sided

ShadowWolf7121841d ago

These dudes like to forget MS is also buying Sony hardware to help improve their Azure servers for gaming and media streaming.

timlot1841d ago

Microsoft is buying Sony camera sensors for ar/vr. They use Nvidia for their server chips.

Obscure_Observer1841d ago

-Foxtrot

"Funny seemed like a two way thing, they partnered with each other"

If Sony plans to use Azure servers to power up PS Now, i think it´s safe to say that this partnership may be a two way thing. But it´s deffinelly critical to Sony.

rainslacker1840d ago

They're using Azure to maybe host PSNow. PSNow runs fun on their current servers though. Maybe it'll get some improvements, but the announcement said they were looking to just adapt PSNow to run on Azure. Nothing about how Azure would make it better. It's not known if this will be Sony moving all their services to PSNow, and it certainly doesn't mean they're moving PSN over to Azure like some have been positing.

Obscure_Observer1840d ago

@rainslacker

Of course Azure will make PS Now better. I´m sure Sony is definelly looking to the same technology behind XCloud, otherwise the partnership with Microsoft wouldn´t make any sense. I mean, why would you run to your main competitor looking for their technology instead Amazon or Google?

You said that yourself, remember? You said Sony were fine with Gaikai and in case they need extra servers they always could resort to Amazon or Google.

You would NEVER guess that Sony would become Microsoft´s partner on this.

I don´t know nothing and didn´t say nothing about PSN running on Azure servers. But i can´t say that i would be surprised if that´s turn out to be the case. I been warning people for some time now, Sony is under new management. Things are supposed to change, some things already changed and will continue to change. Sony´s new CEO has a financial background. Kaz Hirai has a Marketing background. Very different approachs and goals.

Under Kaz Hirai, Sony was more focused on strengened the Playstation brand making it the number one, which he succed. I think under Kenichiro Yoshida, Sony´s main focus will be making more money out the Playstation brand.

Wheter it´s gonna be good or bad for Playstation fans, remains to be seen.

ThinkThink1840d ago

I read MS is using Sony's camera sensors for their a.i initiative. Not gaming related though.

UltraNova1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

Obscure

"Of course Azure will make PS Now better"

How is that, are you from the future? Is Xcloud up and running and objectively better than PS Now at your future timeline?
Smh..

The only REAL Cloud gaming example we currently have from MS(Azure) is Crackdown 3...well yeah. How good will full on game streaming be is another question entirely.

Until Xcloud comes out and outperforms PS Now(or at least, realistically shown) decisively (in performance, cause library-wise it won't) we can talk. And any PS Now to Azure migration wont happen until then. So please stop it, just stop it with the hyperbole.

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343_Guilty_Spark1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

And yet all everyone is talking about is "Cloud"

Semiconductors and optic sensors might be okay for Kinect and AR/VR but that's niche stuff. None of Sony stuff will he used for console gaming.

Cloud is where everything is going. Microsoft's Azure Cloud is probably more valuable than all of Sony.

This wasn't a partnership where Microsoft needs Sony. They have much bigger things than video games. But Sony does need Microsoft.

Kribwalker1840d ago

It’s pretty certain that Sony is using Azure for gaming. It was announced by the MS CEO

“Bringing the power of Azure and Azure AI to Sony to deliver new gaming and entertainment experiences for customers”

https://twitter.com/satyana...

And really, do you believe Image Sensors being used for AI makes this a 2 way partnership? lol. Billions upon billions going in to the Azure Cloud, image sensors is not a equal trade lol

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OB1Biker1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

That's not the reason. It's meant to be a long term partnership profiting both companies and.not just gaming related.
Regarding the cloud, I think they are trying to built future gaming solutions together for the next decade.

milohighclub1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

I reckon the partnership will bring "The power of the cloud" to ps games.
Expect there to be an xbox gold subscription required though. XD
They probably will help Improve the streaming of psnow, I mean they need to do something to claw back some $ their R&D department is burning through. Must be gutting, spending all that money on the cloud for it to be tainted by crackdown 3s development and that massive downgrade it received. I mean if they're offering their only ace to the competition, right as we're going into a generation where there's gonna be a massive push on cloud gaming (meaning they would have an advantage over Sony in that area), the brand simply can't be doing well.

I wonder if this partnership will lead to a collaborated studio... could pump out some good stuff. With Sonys talent at recruiting talent and Microsoft's marketing skills they would be nearly unstoppable and I think something like this is needed to counter Google and Amazon's gaming ventures.

THC CELL1840d ago

My god some of you are way too far up Ms arse

It's always been the case
Like Samsung all other phones including apple warriors phones use Sony cams as they are the best cams ever

Most of your games use Ms havok licences or so on

It's deffo a 2 way thing
Are u thick heads too stupid to see sony been using cloud gaming for years now

They own onlive and Gaikai cloud gaming service

Sony dose not need ms they could of gone amazon and or Google

Between em both behind closed doors they are best buds

Ms did not save anyone and sony dose not need saving you read way too deep into bs

UltraNova1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

Amen...

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Chris_Wray1841d ago

Naturally, though this seems to be part of the cycle. Not only are Sony going to face increased competition from MS, but Nintendo are in a very strong position. Plus the growth of PC gaming and cloud gaming.

Obscure_Observer1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

@Chris_Wray

"Plus the growth of PC gaming and cloud gaming."

Growth of PC gaming? Last time i checked, PC gaming is shrinking. :/

https://h3g7w2e9.stackpathc...

warriorcase1840d ago

That's a graph on revenue share by 25 top companies. If in the top 25 there are Sony and Nintendo first party developers then of course PC will rank low.

You need to look at the larger picture when referencing:
https://www.wepc.com/news/v...

Every market is growing year over year alongside each other with a growing number of people owning Gaming PC's and a console for exclusives.

starchild1840d ago

That's not true. PC gaming as a whole has continued to grow year after year.

Gravesinger_1840d ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BrettAwesome1840d ago

@warriorcase

Wow, that's old. Some of it is based on 2014 numbers. Wanna find some new ones? Some that take into account the fact that ps4 sold 100 million units? I think a whole lot of people decided to go with a console instead of upgrading

warriorcase1840d ago

@BrettAwesome

It refrences plenty from 2014 to 2017. It literally says 2018 on many of the references. I own a gaming pc, ps4 pro and xbox one x and have no favourite.

Fanboys who get upset over some stats and have loyalty to a corporation because it's all you could afford so defend it is just sad. The growth of the industry as a whole is best for everyone.

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BrettAwesome1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

@warriocase
Nope. I question your numbers. I have no problem with PC. Plenty of room for both PC and consoles. What? You wanna measure dicks with apple fans too? You know you'll never beat them when it comes to fanboyism, although I have to say you certainly do give them a run for their money. The only one defending anything is you. And you deserve it. You paid good money for bragging rights. Enjoy it! But quit fucking about with obsolete numbers. Some might be correct, others may not. Get back with some real shit, or shut up while the grown folks are talking

warriorcase1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

>"Nope. I question your numbers."

They're not my numbers and question away. It's just a reference which like any could have misinformation

>"Plenty of room for both PC and consoles. What? You wanna measure dicks with apple fans too? You know you'll never beat them when it comes to fanboyism"

That's exactly what I was getting at. There is plenty of room and the industry is growing year after year all around which is great. I think something was lost in translation here because you agree with me and I you.

>"The only one defending anything is you."

Was pointing out that all markets have been growing. Not really a defense

>"And you deserve it. You paid good money for bragging rights. Enjoy it!"

Thanks?

>"But quit fucking about with obsolete numbers."

You do realize that most groups don't do large global market statistics every single year right?
Here's different sources for you if you like.

https://www.statista.com/to...
https://gamegavel.com/gamin...

>"Get back with some real shit"

Not even sure what you're talking about.

You seem a bit upset from your reply. When I referred to fanboys I wasn't even talking about you but other comments on n4g that base their bias around whatever they own. You need to relax with the hostile tough attitude online dude. It's just people talking about video games.

PhoenixUp1841d ago

It’s amazing enough to see PS4 doing on par with PS2 in the same timeframe when PS4 has had far more competition than PS2 did.

PS5 will most likely break the 100 million mark as well

DarXyde1841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

Sales would need to completely fall off to not reach 100M.

Personally, I am very curious to know how Japan would respond to a "super slim" PS4. I think it would do quite well and push sales for a while in the region.

Of all the consoles I've seen, PS2 slim impressed me the most in terms of form factor and I think that helped it sell so well.

Benjaminkno1841d ago

Ps2 had the gimmick of being a DVD player.
It was cheaper than getting the real thing for awhile. So I think that ps4 sales are actually more impressive.

WickedLester1841d ago

DVD playback wasnt a "gimmick." It was a damn nice built in feature that added a ton of value to the console. Now, motion controls? That was a gimmick!

bluefox7551840d ago

@Wicked Gimmick is the wrong word, I think he was saying the sales numbers are less impressive than PS4's because millions bought a PS2 for non-gaming purposes.

Benjaminkno1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

@WickedLester, @bluefox755
You guys should look up the word gimmick

A gimmick is a feature that has nothing to do with the product’s primary function.

Like a flashlight on a phone or a radio on a watch.
A console is used to play video games.
A web browser, Blu-ray, DVD player, CD player, all of these things are gimmicks on a console.

Perhaps maybe you feel stupid because fanboys love to call Wii a gimmick as it sounds condescending and cheap.
It’s not negative, but fanboys have made it bad word now. 🙄

PhoenixUp1840d ago

@ Dar

I doubt a smaller PS4 on its own would dramatically increase PS4 sales. Not even DQXI had a long lasting effect on PS4 sales in Japan.

Speaking of Japan, it goes to show how more globally successful PS4 is than to PS2 for it to keep up pace despite Japan being a smaller market for stationary consoles. Row markets are making up the difference of that shrinking Japan market.

@ Ben

You really call label features as mere gimmicks?

PS4’s success is indeed far more impressive than PS2’s. PS4 is still in the $300 standard price range going into its sixth year, not as prevelant in the Japanese as PS1 & PS2, not as many AAA third party exclusives as PS2, has far greater competition & no new media format yet its sheer inherent appeal is enough to keep it on the path as one of the fastest selling home consoles to reach 100 million.

IamTylerDurden11841d ago (Edited 1841d ago )

That's every gen, but i agree that technology and popularity have both increased and the gaming landscape is evolving faster than ever. However, Sony has sustained enormous gaming success for a number years and the popularity of the PlayStation brand is at an all-time high. Not only that, but gaming is a larger part of Sony's business model than ever before, by a mile. MS for example makes the vast majority of its profits outside of gaming, but PlayStation is the engine that drives Sony. When Sony restructured back in 2013 they decided that gaming was the lifeblood of the company, they realized that gaming saved the company, and they went all in.

Sony may have more gaming competition than ever, but they are also more committed to gaming than ever. This entire generation has also seen PlayStation dominate the market and build an enormous infrastructure of customers, technology, and successful new IPs. Sony is the only console provider to seriously enter the VR space and for all the talk about being behind in streaming, people forget that Sony was well ahead of its competitors and really ahead of its time with the inception of PSNow. Also, Sony has amassed a ridiculous war chest of successful AAA IP this gen. They already boasted an impressive selection of franchises even prior to 2013, but this generation has added hit after hit franchise to deepen their arsenal further. Bloodborne, Until Dawn, Horizon, Spiderman, and Days Gone are already hit new IPs and new franchises like Ghost of Tsushima, Dreams, and Death Stranding are still to come. Not to mention fantastic reboots of games like R&C and God of War. Great new VR franchises like Astro Bot and Firewall, 3rd party games like Predator.

Sony has more established franchises than ever and they are dominating the console and VR space. PS+ has 40 million subscribers, there are hundreds of millions of active PSN accounts and everything we hear about the PS5's infrastructure and technology is great. It seems to me that Sony is in a better position than ever with PlayStation and i expect the unprecedented success to continue from now through next gen proper.

rainslacker1840d ago

I think Sony is going to be fine, because despite competition, they actually are a leader in the industry, and have a lot of influence in the way things go for the future.

Obscure_Observer1840d ago (Edited 1840d ago )

@rainslacker

Course Sony will be fine. All that Tretton said is that Microsoft, Nintendo and the new players (Google, Apple, Netflix, etc...) will give Sony a run for its money come next generation.

milohighclub1840d ago

I think one of sonys best traits and what actually sets them apart from their competition is the fact that they listen to their customers and developers they learn from not only their mistakes but the mistakes of their competitors. They understand that their customers want excellent games and lots of them.
You think 90 million users are going to abandon their libraries, trophies etc for a console that has had how many hit games this gen? None? Maybe 1? Barely any are rated higher than days gone and if they are they're the same rehashed games they've had since the OG xbox/x360. Not gonna happen, even if a 3rd jumped ship which is unlikely, they would still have 60 million.

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Days Gone Director Says Bend's Project Costs Over $250M; Says PS Co-CEO Doesn't Want 2 Zombies Games

Days Gone director claims Sony has already poured in at least a $250M in Bend's project; says Days Gone sold more than Death Stranding.

shinoff21832d ago

Well that sucks. Seems they want more online trash. I'd rather of had the sequel if it was single player

MrNinosan1d 16h ago

What online trash games did PS Studios release last 10 years?

Notellin1d 14h ago

The past has nothing to do with the future. This is such a terrible argument. Everyone knows about their current live service push.

_SilverHawk_1d 13h ago

It's so tragic what happened to days gone. It is such an amazing game but bandwagoners trashed it and it underperformed in it's launch year. Days gone is the best open world zombie game released in the past five years. I was recently playing it on pc and I'm still amazed by it.

Games are very expensive to make and it seems like it's normal for a AAA game to cost over a quarter billion to make so if a quality game like days gone greatly underperforms then people shouldn't be upset when they see a lot of GAAS. I still remember a lot of bandwagoners calling days gone trash but years later it's now amazing when it's considered a failure by sony.

If a game isn't the best thing seen since hats with pockets then a lot of gamers who haven't played it automatically calls it rubbish and whoever made it should be incarcerated

Cacabunga1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

Co CEO prefers gamers to boycott.. so be it. I’ll never buy a gaas.
Just imagine buying a game you cannot replay in some years.. this shit must stop.

Days Gone did zombies in a very original way. The story was also so engaging. You actually only meet Zombie hordes later in the game. There are many more enemy groups to deal with.

MrNinosan1d 10h ago

@Notelin
I am one of the few who bought Days Gone on release day and loved it completely.
However, "more online trash" is phrased like Sony has put out alot of trash online games.
We got what, 2 games? Helldivers 2 and GT7, 2 of the most sold Playstation games where both is loved by millions.

You, me and especially shinoff has no idea if Fairgames, Marathon and Concord will be trash.

Just because we (as in you and me) don't love or support online games, doesn't mean millions of other do.

And we don't know what Bend Studio is working with? We don't know if they're forced to make a online game or another amazing single player experience.

The only thing we do know is that it's not Days Gone, sadly due to poor sales the first 6 months.

shinoff21831d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

More online trash wasmt meant how insee it comes across. I should've worded it different I was meaning the focus they currently have on it.

Anything online is online trash to me. How long did naughty dog spend on that dumba last of us multiplayer, how about Concord, or even the other couple we hear about. I fk with Sony because rpgs and their 1st party single player games. Been like that for years. I hate seeing them waste time, money, and talent on trash. I understand bot every game is gonna be for me but this focus they've seem to had on multiplayer is extremely disheartening. Even at the state of play the only things I was really feeling were Astrobot and silent hill 2 and I'm content with that, not everything is for me. It's just the online focus I hate. Ms bought up 3 to 4 wrpgs developers, Sony just ignores rpgs 1st party wise.

And a days gone 2 would've been much better then whatever online sht bend is working on. I do know sometimes I get very idk emotional. I do need to work on toning that down a bit lol

SimpleDad22h ago

Ammm let's see... That All-stars, Foamstars, Babilon 5 wass gaas...
Concord... can wait to play that...Marathon uuuu... Last of them gaas... U
Horizon Zero dawn has a project that leaked as a Fortnite lookalike.

They bought Destiny that is a dead gaas...people love ti.

Helldivers 2 was luck.

Jimbo was all in and pushed Sony single player games 5 years behind.

Spiderman gaas was cancelled... I mean every 1st party studio was doing gaas.

Bend had to pitch a gaas game... Open world coop something

I can't remember more... Of that crap.

tay870121h ago

@simpledad. Destiny 2 isn't a dead game. Its the number 5 most played game on steam. I dont play it, but alot of people do.

MrNinosan16h ago

@SimpleDad
You failed to mention a single PS Studios game that has been released last 10 years.
Either your reading skills are crap or you think Sony own every studio in the world.

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just_looken16h ago

I rolled my eyes at concord not only was it just yet another cookie cutter hero shooter but that qucik look for the hero select.

Already has a free section then paid section along with a they/them she/her dei crap top right.

Nothing like a day off of work to fire up concord to read about the new characters sexual identity and or preference then a paywall do you want o buy this character shit like no i just want to shoot my gun have fun.

-Foxtrot2d ago

It would be a shame if it was true that Hermen never gave the franchise a chance simply because he didn't like it and they already had a "Zombie" game with TLOU.

NaughtyDog are most likely moving onto a new IP next so it would have been the perfect time to do it.

ThinkThink1d 22h ago

Here's where xbox steps in and releases state of decay 3 day and date on ps5.

shinoff21831d 8h ago

I mean it's not out of the realm of possibility at this point.

Grilla1d 15h ago

Days gone 2 was canceled before Herman was in charge. That happened like 4 years ago.

vfl5231d 15h ago

4 years ago he was head of Playstation Studios. He would've probably had a hand in the cancelation.

Notellin1d 14h ago

Man two seconds of research could have saved you from this comment. Amazing work Grilla you fit in with the uniformed N4G community who speaks before verifying anything that they say.

Redemption-641d 13h ago

Maybe encourage people to buy the game at full price and not when it's heavily discounted or go on plus. If this game had sold well when it was full priced a sequel would have been in the works. They made a single-player game that most people didn't support until they dropped the price.

Cacabunga1d 11h ago

The guy’s just a moron.. he should have stayed within game development. His choices will have a terrible impact on the brand in the long run.

tay87011d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Dude is pretty pathetic. Sounds like a guy who's girl left him for someone better. Always talking about days gone sequel that never was, even though he is no longer at bend and hasnt been for a while. I for one am not upset about the lack of a sequel. It is one of the worst 1st party games in recent memory. Completely jank, played like an xbox game. The only redeeming quality was the hordes.

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excaliburps1d 16h ago

Yep. Kind of weird since it wasn't a sales flop, no?

I know we have to take what Ross says with a grain of salt since we're hearing just one side of the story, but even so, the game wasn't bad at all. Heck, it's my brother's favorite last-gen game from what I recall.

The amount of zombies on screen, imagine that with the PS5 and SSD? That would be insanely fun!

Grilla1d 15h ago

Most copies were sold on sale. Not enough ppl bought it at full price. I paid 20$ for it 6 -7 months after release.

Notellin1d 14h ago (Edited 1d 14h ago )

Yeah we should never believe the creators side until we hear the corporate/big business side as history has shown we should always believe billion dollar corporations.

What a bootlicker statement.

derek1d 9h ago

@Notellin, of course you'll believe an embittered ex-employee with an axe to grind because it's evil Sony he's complaining about. You guys act like days gone was this huge success and somehow Sony hates easy money a sequel would have generated. The game was mid and so was the response to it. They're still supporting the developer who is making a new ip that could be great.

shinoff21831d 8h ago

Days gone was fantastic. I bought day one but didn't get around to it for months. When I finally did I was pissed at myself for waiting so long lol

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P_Bomb1d 16h ago

Well I don’t want 10 live service games, but they have no problem doing that lol. Ugh.

CrimsonWing691d 15h ago (Edited 1d 15h ago )

Oh great so we only get what the big wigs want… y’know, the people that really have their fingers on the pulse of what their consumers want. Faaaaantastic!

rippermcrip1d 13h ago

Well consider they know the sales... they do know what the consumer wants.

It sold shit.

-Foxtrot1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

But if it’s true what this guy says it sold better than Death Stranding

Yet that got a sequel and Kojima aside out of them both DS didn’t really NEED a sequel compared to Days Gone which ended on such a cliff hanger twist.

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Can FSR 3 frame generation deliver the 120fps dream on PS5 and Xbox?

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purple1012d ago

adds between 8.3-15.3 milliseconds of latency on the game they tested, - no thanks

darksky1d 16h ago

Base latency is 130.8ms and frame gen takes that up to 139.1ms. A 7% increase in latency is hardly a deal breaker.

Zenzuu1d 15h ago

That's hardly a deal breaker and not really noticeable. Even the folks at Digital Foundry said so as well.

darthv722d ago

Impressive results... sadly I don't have a 120hz display. I was thinking this technique could increase fps on any game that supports it regardless of the display.

purple1012d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I have a vrr telly in the lounge,

On another point, what if it were the other way around where the developer aims for higher fps, then used something like pssr to make the resolution higher, that might be better?

Any which way, PS5 pro sure looks interesting now, being they have already doubled frame rate, with JUST just this fsr3.0

sagapo1d 14h ago

It’s up to dev’s to implement FSR 3 support tho but most probably will I guess (hope).

Eonjay1d ago

Yes it would increase the framerate but it would add more noticeable latency. The impact of latency goes down the more natural frames produced. So a monitor that can push bast 60 will naturally allow the game to operate much smoother. Add VRR to this and now you have a much more enjoyable experience.

BlackDoomAx1d 16h ago

Can it deliver the 60fps dream?

purple1011d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

no, it delivers approx 80fps.

which is why I say why not target 60fps with this new tech and use the upscaling pssr, (Sonys version of Nvidia's DLSS, that seems so popular in the pc realm)

then we have best of both, better believe ps5pro will be doing all the above.

andy851d 15h ago

Now I've extensively tried it I'm not too fussed about 120 fps. Give me a locked 60 and more details and I'm more than happy

anast1d 11h ago (Edited 1d 11h ago )

120 is a bit slow. My eyes can't look at anything less than 260fps.

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