Atom6661833d ago

Oh, this will do wonders for all of that goodwill you're seeking, Epic.

Nitrowolf21833d ago (Edited 1833d ago )

Wtf lol

I’m curious when it gets removed from steam if it’s player base will suddenly drop on pc in protest

Eonjay1833d ago

I cant with Store Wars.

darthv721833d ago

Why? It isnt like people who bought the game wont be able to still play it. It shouldnt matter where you got it, what matters is do people like playing it.

rainslacker1833d ago

The majority probably won't notice if they already brought the game.

UltraNova1833d ago

They will not remove the game for prior purchasers, only the listing.

Epic is aggressive as F*** and dead serious on taking Steam's crown.

ssmilloy361833d ago

good thing I got it for free on my ps four

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PapaBop1833d ago (Edited 1833d ago )

While they're out there with these sort of vanity buys.. their development roadmap for bringing their store up to standard gets delayed..Epic's priorities are so backwards.

Here is a pretty damning comparison:

https://preview.redd.it/iiv...

Christopher1833d ago

I highly doubt their priorities are backwards. Developing new features takes time and won't suddenly appear by throwing money everywhere, buying a new studio just takes money.

I'm not saying Epic is going to deliver on their promises, but this has no impact on their store improvements.

DaDrunkenJester1833d ago

They dont support much but you bet your ass that 1 of the small handful of things they do support is Micro transactions Haha

2pacalypsenow1833d ago (Edited 1833d ago )

Ps4 is the Steam of PC stores.

Switch is Epic store

jeki1833d ago

What does standard mean, to make it like Valve Corporation's store?

If they add a forum it will require 24/7 moderation or else it will quickly become like 8chan. Not only that, if they moderate and delete comments they'll have to deal with people screaming about their free speech. Why would anyone want to deal with that?

The same goes for user reviews. Valve had to put a review-bomb mechanism in place, image what Epic would have to do.

Steam Workshop? That's a walled-garden system that's anti-consumer so let's hope they don't implement something like that.

All they need is a shopping cart and a better interface.

PapaBop1833d ago (Edited 1833d ago )

@ jeki

They can live without forums but with all the money they are making and throwing around to try and take things away from Steam, it wouldn't hurt them to hire some moderators and create some new opportunities for fans to join Epic. Hell, they could easily get people who would do it for free if they wanted to.

Users Reviews, it's just a great feature all round and while it has problems, it wouldn't be difficult for a talented programmer to develop ways to detect the fake ones.

What about the rest of the features it's lacking then? Many of them are very situational but there a lot of user out there taking advantage of them.

sampsonon1833d ago

isn't competition a good thing for the consumer?

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Christopher1833d ago (Edited 1833d ago )

Yeah, how dare they become more competitive by buying IPs! Anyone who buys out games to restrict them from platforms they otherwise would go to are scum! Right Sony and Microsoft!?

You guys need to calm it with the fervor. This is standard stuff we see every year. It's just because it's Epic that people are angry. Steam isn't your friend and people paying money to build stronger portfolios to combat Steam isn't wrong, it's how competition works.

Atom6661833d ago

I mean... I don't entirely disagree (except for your odd use of the word "fervor"), but where am I wrong?

They're getting major backlash (perhaps largely undeserved) and then announce they're buying a studio and popular IP (no issue there), with the caveat that they'll no longer sell that game on the store where it has sold millions already, and which objectively, is a better platform. In this competition you speak of, tell me how that last part nets them any goodwill?

Obviously they don't care about that, but they'd be smart to think about it imo. We'd all be smart not to fully drink Sweeney's kool aid, too.

Also, what games have been bought then taken off a preexisting store front? Seriously don't know what you're referencing there.

Ducky1833d ago

@Christopher
If the move to the Epic launcher turns Rocket League into an inferior product with the loss of steam workshop (without a better replacement) or loss of linux support, then that's not going to garner any good will.
Neither will it help Epic's battle against Steam if all they end up doing is highlighting how limited their platform is while pissing off RocketLeague's PC player base.

Christopher1833d ago (Edited 1833d ago )

***Also, what games have been bought then taken off a preexisting store front? Seriously don't know what you're referencing there.***

I don't know what you're talking about here either, as I didn't mention that. Current owners aren't losing the game. And the game isn't leaving a platform, so there's not an issue. And there are many reasons games can leave a storefront, from exclusive deals made elsewhere to the odd Prey issue where they 'ran out of digital keys'.

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@Ducky Yeah, that's up to Epic to fail or succeed at.

Atom6661833d ago (Edited 1833d ago )

"Anyone who buys out games to restrict them from platforms they otherwise would go to are scum!"

So you're randomly talking about exclusivity in general or this Rocket league -no longer offered for sale on Steam after appearing on Epic store- situation?

Cause if it's the former...kind of a weak reach. I personally do think it's a scummy move when we see stuff like that too.

If the best example you actually have is Prey running out of keys, then, yeah, this is fairly different situation, is it not?

RizBiz1833d ago (Edited 1833d ago )

WTF are you on about? When did Sony ever buy a developer to take its games off of other platforms? Not even M$ took Minecraft off of other platforms. When you're worse than M$, there's something seriously wrong.

Christopher1833d ago (Edited 1833d ago )

***So you're randomly talking about exclusivity in general or this Rocket league -no longer offered for sale on Steam after appearing on Epic store- situation? ***

I said "platforms" which was supposed to be the point in that PC players aren't losing the game.

***If the best example you actually have is Prey running out of keys, then, yeah, this is fairly different situation, is it not?***

It's not the best, just the one I remember and you didn't ask for requirements on games not leaving a store. By the way, that was when the developers were bought out by Zenimax, the same people who own Bethesda. So, a company bought another, and suddenly there were no keys... At least in this case the game will still be available for purchase.

jeki1833d ago

@Atom666

Most of the people outraged about the Epic Store are outraged about a lot of things and spend hours and hours online screaming about it. Epic would be smart to not prioritize them.

RauLeCreuset1833d ago

The irony of brining up Sony is that Sony has been catching criticism this gen from a lot of you for continuing a competitive stance against embracing cross-play with competing home consoles that has been "standard stuff" for every market leader in the home console race. Epic and Psyonix both hopped aboard that train to pressure Sony to embrace cross-play. Psyonix cuts a deal to be bought out by Epic and the player choice narrative gets tossed, and we're reminded again that it's just business, these companies aren't our friends, it's competition, etc.

KillBill1833d ago

Name me some IPs that Microsoft and Sony bought that removed games already on another platform from being sold? Microsoft even bought Minecraft and released the game on PS after the purchase.

babadivad1833d ago

Microsoft bought Minecraft and it's available everywhere. Bought Ninja Theory and kept hell Blade on PS4. They also finished developing and released the game on Switch.

W34KN35S1833d ago

competition doesnt exist with exclusives , if netflix and hulu have a show or movie then they are competing. However , if one has exclusive rights to a show or movie then there is no competition. Competition when talking about stores comes down to features and functionality, competition when talking about stores involves choice and what Epic is doing is removing choice. No one would say anything if it wasnt exclusive because then there would actually be competition and everyone already knows that Steam has the better store period.

Reefskye1833d ago

No compatition works when you compete for customers they ain't compete ting for customers they forcing you to use their launcher, Sony and Microsoft made their own hardware and games this is expected. Pc is an open platform just because u can buy it on steam doesn't mean you can't buy it from other places. I suppose business giving each other benefits while the screw over their consumer is good competition no it's not.

Atom6661833d ago

@Christopher

Just gonna double down, eh?

I asked you to name a situation like this one, which is the subject at hand and apparently the basis for your sarcastic response to my comment about goodwill.

Specifically, I asked "what games have been bought then taken off a preexisting store front?"

Whether it's your best example or the only one you remember, the example you gave so far is weak. While I don't think this situation is completely unique, it's fair to say it's pretty rare. Not exactly "standard stuff" as you said.

But to my actual initial point, it's a short sighted move that won't help them in garnering the goodwill that they're in need of right now.

Split hairs if you want over Steam as a platform or Steam as just a storefront, but the truth is that Steam has quality of life services that make this more than just a "it's just another launcher, same platform" argument.

People who don't understand the difference between Steam and Epic's store from the consumer's perspective are being just as ignorant as Epic in my view.

In order to truly make a dent in this arena, Epic needs to not just attract PC gamers generally, they need to attract Steam gamers.

Offering less of an experience and utilizing these timed exclusive tactics isn't helping them accomplish that imo.

And I would also add that, just generally, some of us dislike when any company uses third party exclusivity and timed exclusivity as a competitive weapon. Shrugging it off and dismissing critics of it is your prerogative, but I'm not sure how that attitude is helpful to any of us, the actual consumers.

Christopher1833d ago

@Atom

I don't need to provide an example for your made up metric. I provided one that came to mind, but that's all.

I didn't like the one year exclusive deal with Tomb Raider and Microsoft. Others thought it was fine. But that doesn't change that it was beneficial to Microsoft as a business.

I don't like Epic removing a game entirely from Steam. But that doesn't change that it is beneficial to Epic as a business.

***In order to truly make a dent in this arena, Epic needs to not just attract PC gamers generally, they need to attract Steam gamers. ***

They already have them with Fortnite. If you're anti-Epic and how they do business, then you're likely not their target audience. But most people on Steam don't care about Steam but access to games they want.

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I respect your opinion on how you perceive this, it's not different than my own entirely, I just understand that regardless of what I would like, what they are doing is pretty standard business and works more often than not. It's worked for Amazon, Apple, Google, and Microsoft. It's why I would never be good as a business owner.

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sampsonon1833d ago

so you expect a company that owns the game to give it to its competitor so people will go there instead of the site that the company owns? strange.

Atom6661833d ago

That would be the smart move right now for Epic, yeah. What MS has done with Mojang and Ninja Theory purchases was smart from both a sales perspective and a goodwill perspective. Strange you don't see that.

Teflon021833d ago

Minecraft released on PS4 and Switch after MS bought it... Also, it's not about buying it, it's about availability. If it's already on the Store, leave it. You're just taking away from the consumers. Epic is trying to look like the good guys but they're the same ones robbing Google of any profits from Fortnite on android because they don't wanna share profits. Yet using the platform. Epics scum, they're not about consumers at all. Fortnite would be how it is on android for everything if it wasn't the only open platform. They want you to allow non certified apps so you can play fortnite on android, which isn't safe for consumers phones. Which they don't care about. They have a garbage barebones store and spending money to force ppl to use the trash store etc. Glad they have yet to grab some exclusive game I've wanted because that franchise would be dead to me until they go to steam. I waited on Tomb Raider when they pulled the bs with Rise. I promised never to buy one on xbox nor pay full price for a tomb raider ever again because the dumb practice. These guys are even worse

ShadowWolf7121833d ago

Funny, I coulda swore all y'all said you'd be fine with Epic doing exclusives if they actually owned the IP, and yet here they are buying an IP and folks still mad.

Atom6661833d ago (Edited 1833d ago )

Who is "y'all" and who is mad?

NarutoFox1833d ago

And Steam will not counter epic

Teflon021833d ago

Prices and the library alone isn't really phased. If you're not a fortnite player, you'd have almost no reason to touch the trash that is the epic store

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Kabaneri1833d ago

Epic wants that Rocket Pass money.

YourSixStudios_YT1833d ago

I'm curious to know what Epic will do with Rocket League... Maybe we will see a spin off of Rocket Legue... or maybe a rocket league "cart racer" or something...

Casepb1833d ago

Battle Royale of course.

Wolffenblitz1833d ago

All cars will have crazy huge guns, capture the flag and M-M-M-MULTIKILLs

jagermaster6191833d ago

I bet they put the cars in fortnite........I hate fortnite so much!

Sono4211833d ago

I've been wanting a rocket league cart racer for a while honestly, I really hope this happens

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Blu3_Berry1833d ago

Well, it was fun playing rocket league Psyonix, too bad I won't be able to play any potential future games from you guys anymore.

ocelot071833d ago

"too bad I won't be able to play any potential future games from you guys anymore"

Why? Can't your pc handle the epic launcher???

KillZallthebeast1833d ago

I personally don't care about launcher brands, but I would like 1 universal one. I don't need 10 updating every time I turn on my pc.

Ddog451833d ago

What PC couldn't handle that epic barebones garbage? Just don't want to, don't agree with their tactics and refusal to upgrade a pathetic launcher so NO Thanks!!!!

Christopher1833d ago

***I personally don't care about launcher brands, but I would like 1 universal one. I don't need 10 updating every time I turn on my pc.***

I know it's a pain, but you don't want this. Without competition, you get less than you deserve. We need this competition to continue as consumers.

Wolffenblitz1833d ago

@Christopher

FOR THE LAST TIME MAN, It's not competition....

You can't call it competition at all. It's like someone running a race buys out and removes the other runners from the race.

That is not competition.

Christopher1833d ago

***FOR THE LAST TIME MAN, It's not competition.... ***

Yeah, it is. Epic is competing directly with Valve. How you think that's not competition is beyond my understanding.

PapaBop1833d ago (Edited 1833d ago )

Maybe he's a Linux user?

Also what Epic are doing certainly falls under the definition of competition but we've yet to see any of the benefits this has brought to the console gaming market. So far they're just throwing around money taking away from Valve/Steam. This could be the start of the benefits by buying out developers like Psyonix but as of today, those benefits remain to be seen.

Christopher1833d ago

***You can't call it competition at all. It's like someone running a race buys out and removes the other runners from the race. ***

Just FYI, what seems to be the issue isn't that they are competing, it's the method that they are competing. The rules of business doesn't say you can't buy things to improve your ability to compete. Races have different rules than businesses.

I respect you don't like how they are competing, but it is competition, and it is, sadly, competition that Valve needs to have. Competition is why consoles have been prospering so much since last generation and hopefully will continue.

CDbiggen1833d ago

@Blu3_Berry

And that is how to answer a twattish question.

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KillZallthebeast1832d ago

I get what Christopher is saying and he isn't wrong. However this is a different animal. This is competition sure, but if it was for our benefit name one game cheaper on their service thats more on steam. It's more of an agressive takeover preaching the good they're doing while actually doing nothing.

Christopher1832d ago

***Steam has WAY more features than any other launcher could DREAM OF, they keep adding and IMPROVING, they keep experimenting and creating actual gaming hardware, they have AWESOME sales all the time...WHY does Steam need competition???***

The only thing Steam has been competing with are consoles. The updates they make are years late to when they could have done them for the most part. Heck, even their mod tools were done just so they could try and monetize mods for games (how did that work out?).

With actual competition on the PC, the advancement goes much further.

Look at Sony last generation and their advancements and Microsoft this generation and their advancements.

You think they're doing a ton, but they're not. There's a ton more they could do. But it's become more like mobile app development than anything else, where people are fighting to do the same thing, just slightly better, but actually doing nothing innovative.

Anything Valve has done is to keep people on PC, not to advance PC at the level it can be. And in many instances it's to attempt to monetize more features, which have fallen through (though, some haven't).

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Xavi4K1833d ago

Are you going to sell your Pc or something??

For god sake its just another luncher that you have to download and click on its icon instead of steam icon 😂

Blu3_Berry1833d ago

No I am not going to sell my PC.

Reefskye1833d ago

You laugh but the point is you understand nothing it's not just another launcher. It's a shit launcher and with everything pc if you don't like one launcher u can buy it from another or somewhere like gog. You don't understand what your talking about so why don't you pipe down

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KwietStorm_BLM1833d ago

So what's your actual reasoning for not using Epic's launcher?

Blu3_Berry1833d ago

There are several reasons that I have explained about in my previous comments and countless others have the same thoughts. My main reason for not supporting Epic is because of their stupid timed-exclusivity deal practice. That is a terrible practice for us as consumers. They are literally taking choice and forcing us to use their inferior launcher just to bribe people over into using it. I absolutely hate that practice and all it does is push me further away from using Epic's launcher. I want them to compete on other levels with features such as the free game every two weeks, not holding games hostage from Steam. It's bullsh*t.

KwietStorm_BLM1833d ago

You as the consumer don't have to pay anything extra to play games on Epic, so it's not literally being held hostage. That's just a funny analogy. Improving the launcher takes time if you want actual tangible improvements. Game exclusivity is a stop gap, and it's not nearly as big a deal as net dwellers are making it. These same people were complaining about Steam getting lax, but now when someone else steps up, it's oh oh oh I'm taking my ball and going home. Saying you "won't be able to" play future games is a pure lie from the door. You're making that choice.

Zenbaby3691833d ago

He won't be able to due to factors he has described. He has things he doesn't like about the platform. Just because these factors are choices he makes doesn't make them non-factors. They still add up to him not being able to play the game. Think of it as like not being able to eat pork because of religion or something. The competition is great, yes. However, who really wants to download another program with basically no features. I'm not one of those people who care about achievements, but a lot do. Also, I don't want to have epic, and steam, and origin, and uplay all open at once. But you know what? They all have a different friends list, and Steam has really good features. At some point enough is enough, I'm going to have so many freaking launchers up that my computer won't be able to run a game etc. etc. etc.

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Sgt_Slaughter1833d ago

Money talks unfortunately.

Not exactly having optimistic feelings for the future of gaming at this rate.

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Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024

Twisted Voxel writes: "We've almost reached the end of the 1st half of 2024, and Xbox has had more studio closures than first party game releases in the year so far."

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KicksnSnares10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Hellblade 2, Indiana Jones, Avowed, Towerborne, and Call of Duty are still to be released this year. Marcus Fenix collection to be added to the list with the Xbox showcase, hopefully.

anast7h ago

Those are all coming to PS5 too.

Tech52h ago

"Xbox Has Had More Studio Closures Than First Party Game Releases So Far In 2024"

they kept the IPs though. they'll be making them under the MS brand i'm guessing. like minecraft all those years ago.

solideagle6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

the keyword is so Far...

on topic: Ouch!

Hedstrom4h ago

Kinda missing the forest for all the trees statement!

shinoff21834h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Bet all those don't make it though this year

romulus233h ago(Edited 3h ago)

If we're going to talk in "still to be's" there still could be more studio closures from Microsoft this year as well.

DOMination-42m ago

How much confidence do people have in these games being good though? I hope they will be (especially Avowed) but from what we know of them so far, it's hardly a guarantee, is it?

And even if they do turn out to be good, how much of that will be down to Xbox and its leadership? Most of these games were either sequels to games made before being acquired or started development before being acquired.

And just a note on Hellblade II - it is out in two weeks and unless I'm missing something, I don't see much in the way of previews or advertising from Microsoft. Not ideal for a niche game that looks like it probably cost a lot of money to make. It genuinely feels like another game being sent out to die and then have the studio shut down.

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anast7h ago

Popcorn is good. Anyone want some?

anast3h ago

I wouldn't mind a caramel and cinnamon mix actually.

dumahim2h ago

That does sound good. I have trouble just finding caramel corn.

Eonjay6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Sony doesn't have to bother fighting the next Microsoft acquisition. The massive layoff by themselves should be enough to get the next big buy blocked.

Hofstaderman5h ago

Vindicates Jim Ryan. Don't know who didnt see this coming except those frothing pro acquisition fanboys who are not commenting here for some reason....

Tacoboto4h ago

What did happen to Obscure?

Tody_ZA4h ago

Obscure is working on his thesis on how to spin this.

Elda4h ago

Exactly. Where is the mayor & spokesperson of XB?

badz1493h ago

Obsecure where are you? Don't tell us Phil fired you too

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MatrixxGT2h ago

Let’s not pretend Sony is setting the world on fire with its first party either….it’s been crickets from them as well. In fact they even said not to expect any at all this year.
MS is a dumpster fire and Sony isn’t fighting anymore and it shows. I fail to see how this is a good thing.

Sonic18812h ago

I was actually thinking about that. You beat me to it

MrDead6h ago

So if MS hadn't spent $80 billion consolidating the industry just think of all the games and jobs that would have saved.

MS is a drain on gaming and have been nothing but a negative.

MrCrimson4h ago

not exactly like the studios were putting out good games anyway. Industry needs to restart from the ground up; if games like battlebit or manor lords can be made by teams with 10 people - then there's something fundamentally wrong with having 500 man teams put out glitchy overmonetized crap.

shinoff21834h ago

Interesting. Prey was a good game, evil within was dope, and hi fi was the best Xbox game that Xbox has had in so many years. That's according to the base.

romulus233h ago

HiFi Rush was a really good game actually so that's hardly the reason for shutting down Tango.

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After the Helldivers 2 Controversy, Players Have Trouble Deleting New PSN Accounts

After the whole fiasco with Sony and Helldivers 2 Community has neded, players report that they are unable to delete their PSN accounts.

Kaii2d ago

can't delete account due to security reasons o_O
That sounds about right lol

Inb4 people mention it explicitly states it somewhere in the EULA, next up everybody pull out ya wands and make the unbreakable vow for eternal corporate servitude.

anast6h ago

Not sure why you got downvotes.

INMATEofARKHAM6h ago

You must be new here. This is Sony country.

gigoran87h ago

because an account tied to an email that is likely a burner is going to end the world

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My Trust in Xbox is on Shaky Ground Right Now

The Outerhaven writes: With multiple gaming studios, including Tango Gameworks, closing, the editor-in-chief of The Outerhaven shares his thoughts on the matter.

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rlow118h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Honestly I was looking back and at the launch of the Xbox 1. With Don Matrick at the helm I was disappointed but therevwas something else. That fighting spirit of Xbox at its inception was lost. They stopped innovating, I lost excitement on what the next big new surprise was, because their weren’t any. Not like Halo 2 and Gears launch. You couldn’t really brag about it anymore.
So here we are and corporate MS has ruined what was a beautiful renegade project.

Cacabunga11h ago

Xbox do not give a crap about developers they want publishers to make money for them that is all.

romulus2311h ago

Well without developers there's nothing to publish so if that's their plan it's a pretty bad one.

senorfartcushion7h ago

They've not changed. They went from discless trash to live services

shadowhaxor16h ago

For everything that Xbox did, I was hopeful it would turn stuff around. Game Pass was a start, and the release of its upcoming titles was a nice way to return. I mean, I'm not going to say it was perfect, just like I wouldn't say PlayStation is perfect. Neither company is, but when Xbox goes and does this, it makes zero sense. The message of Xbox's plan had already had me frustrated, but I was like, "Maybe they'll fix this mess."

Now... yeah. Not so confident anymore.

Aphrodia16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

That's how you know this is clickbait garbage. If you write about games for a living and didn't know Microsoft is a cancer on the industry until now than you are awful at your job.

hiroyukisanada9h ago

Came here to say exactly that @jznrpg 🤣

XiNatsuDragnel18h ago

Xbox will destroy Activision too and Bethesda will be gone too lol

Chocoburger17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

"Right now"?
But not 11 years ago with the disastrous Xbox One reveal which they NEVER recovered from?
Man are you slow on the uptake.

shadowhaxor16h ago

No, Xbox never recovered, but Game Pass (which you're a fool if you deny the success of it), Xbox Cloud, the acquisitions, the reboot of Perfect Dark (which seems to be in the gutter now), the success of Forza Horizon, Sea of Thieves, and yes, Hi-Fi Rush (FFS).

Denying any sort of improvement only goes to show you don't pay any attention to the entire picture.

Crows9016h ago

I think you missed the part where these things were spread years apart. Theres no consistency

ApocalypseShadow15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Bullshit.

Perfect Dark IP was purchased along with many other games like Halo, Gears, etc. Perfect Dark needs help with Crystal Dynamics just to finish the game. That's pathetic. HiFi Rush was purchased and was probably already coming to PlayStation before the purchase.

If Game Pass was a success, these developers wouldn't be closing their doors. We told gamers it isn't profitable. It does make revenue. But revenue isn't profit. It hasn't changed Microsoft's position in the industry or increased hardware sales. If it did, they would be shouting from the rooftops like their arrogant asses always do.

Anyone can have a cloud service. And Sony's is more successful. It took buying major publishers just to increase their spreadsheet. But Xbox continues to fail even then. By having to place games on their competitors platform while still trying to compete. You don't see Nintendo putting their games on Xbox. And Sony was only forced because they don't own the MLB license. Which was forced behind the scenes by Microsoft to take away Sony's successful game and throw it on game pass to use it against gamers buying it on PlayStation. How is the acquisitions a success if they have to close companies they just bought and make many developers jobless? Are you serious? Unless you call it a success by taking away games from other platforms that made those developers more money. That's ridiculous.

Sea of Thieves took years to fix. How is that a success that you have an unfinished game for years that needs fixing? Games should be complete at launch. Just like Halo was an incomplete game that needed fixing. Forza Horizon is a good game but even that game hasn't improved Microsoft's standing at all.

Denying all that shows that you're not paying attention.

Chevalier15h ago

Success? They missed their own targets 3 years straight, stopped announcing numbers because they're so terrible and it's not profitable. Hence the closing 4 studios. There will be more consolidation too. Just watch the by the books garbage yearly releases too followed by more season passes and shorter games come out

Chocoburger14h ago

I have been paying attention for past 11 years. That's why I made my fully accurate above post.

You're the one who hasn't, thus you made that completely worthless post.

- I don't care about a rental service for mid-tier (or any tier) games.

- I don't care about streaming services, I play on actual hardware.

- What is Perfect Dark at this point? Its just a name trying to have an easy win with nostalgia. The original developers and talent has long been gone once MS bought Rare in 2001. ITS JUST A NAME, nothing more.

-Don't care about Forza Horizon.

- Don't care about Sea of Thieves.

- I am interested in Hi-Fi Rush, but MS killing off Tango has pissed me off, so I don't want to reward them for their B.S. and now its guaranteed that the hard working devs won't see any benefit from me supporting them.

MS has done squat over the past 11 years. Nothing but the embarrassing stink of failure. I know this because I have been paying attention.

StoneTitan12h ago

I never played hi-fi rush, even though I would have loved it from all I can see, but as it never came to playstation... Now it comes to playstation and I have no intention to buy it because they closed the developer and the money will only go to poor phil and his poor suits. Well I mean, what else is there to say.
Gamepass brought them into this position so you would be a fool to see it as a success lol

romulus2311h ago

It's also foolish to deny the negatives gamepass is having on the industry as that is part of the entire picture as well.

ocelot074h ago

Gamepass? That is one of the main things that's killing Xbox as a platform imo.

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Skuletor14h ago

Must be getting their news on Microsoft's Internet Explorer

notachance17h ago

I imagine smaller ABK studios like toys for bob and beenox are now feeling uncertain about their futures

LucasRuinedChildhood17h ago

Thankfully Toys for Bob managed to safely separate from Xbox and are independent now.

notachance17h ago

lol I don't know that, thanks for clarifying

TheColbertinator17h ago

Beenox has been in danger for years now with Activision. Microsoft may act more ruthlessly to them unfortunately.

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