Steve C loves the Forza franchise and wants there to be more. He suggests some areas that that the series could branch into.
Here are some great PC games that are even better with a controller. In fact, one can say that they're meant to be played with a controller.
That's why I don't mess with PC gaming for the most part. When I game I'm relaxing. Hard to do that with a keyboard and mouse. That's just my thought on it.
I'm still hoping bethesada adds real controller support to the og fallout or re release them on xbox like what was done with wasteland 1
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What exactly is so hard about using a keyboard and mouse compared to a controller when subjectively relaxing? Do you game upside down on a crossbar?
At least in my opinion, with a controller I can lay back comfortably in my couch however I want. Keyboard + mouse would require a table and chair, and requires investing in ergonomics not to completely mess up my back (not saying the couch is good for my back either but achieving comfortability is easier). Again, emphasizing that I'm speaking out of opinion, and I agree with you that concepts of relaxing and which is better are both very subjective matters. All in all I don't think it's a particularly good article since it really boils down to personal preference.
My old ass Xbox 360 Rock Candy controller still works fine today "For the Players"
A pricing error saw players briefly get Forza Horizon 4 and 5 cheaply, but Xbox taking the game back over a week later is a dangerous precedent.
People should be upset about this. I don't care if people bought those 2 Forza games on the cheap. Microsoft made the pricing error for those moments, not the customers. And why wait a full week to finally "decide" to take the games back?
Everyone had a fit when Konami forced Sony to take away P.T. from people's psn accounts. That was FREE and people had a fit. But these Forza games people PAID for and not a peep? That is nonsense.
This is almost as bad as Overwatch 1, a game people paid for deliberately being made to not work anymore for Overwatch 2, even though people PAID for Overwatch 1.
For all the cheerleaders that want a digital only gaming future, this is the start of the reality you want.
That all digital future people push for. Now people are starting to see why the "haters" argued against it.
Yeah, they're always "haters" until they find things they bought are suddenly gone or not working.
Sadly, that's a lot of people; who cares "as long as it's not me" scenario is common.
Tbh a disk ain't gonna work either in the future with about 70mb of the games on the disk ?
Too bad the full game usually isn’t on the disk anymore. That was my main push towards all digital gaming. And since prices typically suck I just wait on sales and grab only 1-2 games day 1 annually anymore.
@EveetonFC & ApexWolf22
You two should really play something other than AAA games. Just bought evil west, great game, works perfectly out the box. Played it for about 6hrs before i let the update install by restarting it at the end of my session. Get away from the Ubisoft/EA/Activision games and most of them just work out the box.
Totally agree with you, It is scummy tactics that MS should be called on.
If the game was sold at a cheap price by mistake then fix the price and let the ppl who paid t keep their games.
It's not like millions of ppl used that deal and the negative press will be far more expensive and damaging versus the saving.
Again PPLs are right to be pissed!
Aren't these games on GP though? Regardless this isn't a good look on MS. The all digital future has been slowly exposing itself for awhile now. They should of let ppl keep those games.
It's not merely "scummy tactics". It's literal theft from those who bought it. It's freaking mass felony by MS.
@lodos the truth is they’re not upset about it their mentality is “ I don’t care soon we will have tons of free games after the purchase goes through “
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Imagine the 'great concern' and aNtIcOnSuMeR comments from the usual suspects if Sony did this lol.
Are ppl praising Microsoft here?
Bad practices need to be called no matter the company.
Right. And there’d be quite a few articles about it. We’ll see how this plays out though.
The only real backlash MS got was when they raised the price of Live. They had small time backlash when certain DRM aspects were still present. (which they finally resolved ) I doubt this will hit main stream gaming media tbh.
If Sony did this people would carry on as if they're on Jim Ryan's payroll and explain how its a good thing.
Really?
Because I remember how everyone came down on Sony when they took P.T. away from people at the request of Konami. A FREE demo.
This is the first I'm hearing of this, if true and people paid regardless of price then this is utterly disgusting.
Ms stuffed up that's there problem, not a peep from any media about this either, what a surprise.
100% and I have the purchase receipt and refund email to prove it. This proves that digital only gives the likes of Microsoft and Sony way to much power.
If they can take a game off a refund you like this. Then what happens if for say the next Forza comes out people pay £60 for it rather than rent it on gamepass. Then a few months later they revoke the licence and refund you and say well we raised the price to £80 now so if you want it again pay the £80.
Sony isn't the one pushing the all digital future like that. Sony allows games to be press physically still. As low as I've seen 800 copies. While ms has a minimum of 75000. That's crazy. Ms is also the one that had to revise the Xbox one cause they were on some crazy sh. Look it up
I heard Warner Bros and other studios are removing your digital copy from other sources and making you repurchase it on their platform. You'll rent and own nothing will be strong on digital services.
Well I think I will cancel my Game pass subscription so they might have saved £79.99 but will lose £131.88 a year due to this poor error on their behalf.
Person talking about cancelling Game Pass after supposedly purchasing a game that is FREE on Game Pass... and all because of the money. lol
A Forza Motorsport 2023 vs Forza Motorsport 7 comparison has surfaced, showing great improvements to the game's visuals.
As I said in another post, I'm sure Forza will look, play, and be consistently amazing across all platforms like it generally is. But MS knows better than showing off the PC version of content at their Xbox events. They've been bashed for doing this before, and if I'm not mistaken Forza Motorsport was one of the main ones getting bashed for it back at the XBO launch.
Funny everyone gushed about gran turismo 7 being gorgeous and it’s running on less power than Xbox…
Forza Horizon 5 looks absolutely fantastic on Series X. Looks better than gt7 by a fair amount. If that’s indication about Forza Motorsport then it’s gonna be even better cuz it’s not open world like Horizon. No matter what it’s going to look significantly better on much more powerful hardware. Series x is twice the power of the one X. Your comment feels like solid troll.
^ GT7 is running on a PS5, right? MS show their games on top end PCs that their consoles can't match. Have done for years.
@z2g
Well, Digital Foundry confirmed that it was running on PC, as I said, so.....
https://youtu.be/IAScjCswzi...
Apparently, it's being said it was running on PC with Series X targeted performance after one of the devs said the trailer was running on Series X, but didn't confirm if the gameplay demo was. But it's looking more like they meant both were running on devkits, and people are running with it because the devkits have more VRAM, even though everything the CPU and GPU are the same as the Series X.
TopGear article states it was running on Series X
https://www.topgear.com/car...
To follow up, Digital Foundry also stated it was the PC version as well.
So....Yeah shame on MS.
https://youtu.be/IAScjCswzi...
Interesting. That's a shame. Hopefully the Series X version looks roughly the same. I'd prefer they be a bit more transparent. If it's PC, SX, cutscene, etc., just say that.
"They've been bashed for doing this before, and if I'm not mistaken Forza Motorsport was one of the main ones getting bashed for it back at the XBO launch."
They also did it for Forza Motorsport 7 and we all know how things turn out.
https://www.youtube.com/wat...
Better luck next time.
That's what I meant, I hope it's not true it seems like they meant it was running on devkits still and not PC which is better, considering the devkits are literally the same CPU and GPU as the Series X although allegedly with higher clocks, and confirmed 40GB of VRAM.
And considering it's still more than half a year away that's fine. But we'll see I guess Spring 2023.
I tried giving them the benefit of the doubt but it's been confirmed to be running on PC, so yep this is the second time they're done this.
Now all the disagree's and hidden outrage are saying does it matter 😂😂😂
"Now all the disagree's and hidden outrage are saying does it matter"
Like I said before, they first presented Forza Motorsport running on PC. People were skeptical on how well the Xbox One X would run that game, let alone the One and One S. Turn out that FM7 run amazing across all Xbox platforms.
That´s their latest track record, so I´m not sure what exactly you´re trying to achieve or what point your trying to make.
Much better lighting, but I think the big jump was to f7. The locked 60 frames and they reached 4k. I think maybe when they are able to do 120 frames. That could be the next big jump. Beside the fact that racing games are meant to play inside cockpit not 3rd person. Anyone that races knows this
Someone who never grew up playing pole position or outrun I see...
Its perfectly fine to race in whatever view a person chooses. It's not real life, no matter how detailed the car models, interior or track design may be. Just have fun with it and remember... go fast.
No. Simulators go for inside cockpit. That like all that compete play it. Arcade is 3rd view. Thats why when people talk about the track and trees and people we can know they aren't racers. But casuals that play sometimes.
The new Forza looks miles ahead of any other racing game on console today, including FH5 and GT7.
Simply looks spectacular.
Simply looks spectacular.
Indeed. The more I look at this game, the more hyped I become.
Man... I believe Fable will be simple out of this world.
ForzaTech for Fable was a really interesting decision. And its commendable that they chose the sprawling ForzaTech over the common UE for their Fable.(the easy route)
But the conversion will take time. The engine's proprietary and was modified only for Horizon series.
Implementing it for an RPG like Fable will take substantial amount of time. Scripting, dialogue tree, inventory system etc.
And this was leaked recently too, that PGgames was having trouble with the development. (the job's not easy)
The situation is quite similar to Bioware's DA Inquisition development. Their first implementation of Frostbite.
They had loads of trouble. They had to write a lot of code/scripts from scratch.
But PGgames has the reputation, they'll eventually pull through. Its just that they initial dev phase will take a bit more time. Once done, the Fable sequel wont be that big of a hurdle. Because the framework will be there.
No it doesnt. You were already warned about that kind of talk. Play games and not corporations. Again the big jump was the last one that went for the first time to 4k and 60frames. This seems cool, but the jump in rez and frames isn't. It got Higher setting. This games isn't running at 8k at 120 frames. And if you play Gt7 on ps5 you would understand that the dualsense make a huge difference in driving. From acceleration to braking, to feeeling the track and curves. Now thats miles away of what the game pad of the Xbox is able to do.
Warned about saying Forza Motorsport looks better than Forza Horizon 5 & GT7? What? It's not illegal to compare games across one genre, lol.
"Play games and not corporation"
Is Forza not a game?
No one is expecting this game to run at 8k120hz lol, but the graphics look great, and in-race raytracing is huge. Also, the damage & dirt model looks great, as well as the changes in handling caused by temperature etc.
No one is denying that the DualSense adds to games, but it's not make or break. Plenty of great games are on other platforms or even PS5 games that feature minimal DS support.
The visuals here are breathtaking though, and the tracks & environment are so detailed. If you can't see how good this looks, it might be time to visit the optician.
You told that Gt7 look like a ps3 game. Didn't? Maybe was another embassator of Microsoft.
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Looking great, also they said physics are getting major upgrade. I wonder if they will finally become a true simulator like GT and stop being a simcade.
Forza is soooooooooo old. Shulda jus do something else with that team tbh