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In Theory: is PS5 powered by an AMD Gonzalo processor?

Specs have leaked for a new AMD console chip - but what is it?

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paintedgamer19841872d ago (Edited 1872d ago )

Man ill be impressed as shh if the ps5 is 12 tf lol. Thats twice that of the x from just 3 years prior plus all the other specs being leap frogged. This is sounding more and more like a actual generational leap than what we got with the og ps4 in 13.

Eidolon1872d ago

yeah(at 12TFLOPS) like over 6 times that of the base PS4 TFLOPs. maybe 5x the CPU power(Of base and Pro. At least double the RAM, come on, it's going to be at least 16GB. Firmware/SDKs designed around SSD. Custom designed hardware, learning from PS4. It IS going to be a generational leap.

DrumBeat1871d ago

Agreed. This power battle is going to be 'very' interesting.

Glad to hear about the SSD for PS5, which also means Microsoft's hand is forced to do the same. I know Sony is going to deliver some knockout games with PS5, and I do hope Microsoft have washed their hands of this paltry generation they've had in terms of games, and are going full throttle this time around.

I'm hopeful but I'm skeptical.

darthv721871d ago

You do know the xbo went from 1.2tf to 6tf in just 4 years right.... right?

That too is considered a generational leap. It just sucks the x is tethered to the least common denominator. Things could change though. MS could just as easily lift the restrictions and allow the X to really show its teeth.

They may just do that when the next gen xbox releases. Its long been rumored that both sony and ms are wanting to double (at the very least) the power of their flagship consoles. 10-12tf is a given.

seanpitt231872d ago

I can't see it being 12 TF with all the other kit that makes it really expensive piece of kit and Sony knows not to price it any more than $450 that's the sweet spot $399-$449. Just imagine all The heat it will produce so they can't Just have a ordinary fan they will need some sort of liquid cooling system like the X.

I think around 10 TF is more likely more than double the power of the pro but more importantly the CPU is a massive upgrade compare to the ps4

sinspirit1872d ago

- The 1X does NOT use liquid cooling. It uses a vapor chamber, which is OLD. All copper pipes for cooling use this same method and are in every heatsink. A vapor chamber simply goes a little bit further(again, it's not new at all).

If newer things were necessarily hotter, then modern electronics would be nuking us right now. This is newer hardware on 7nm fabrications. More performance per watt. The thing is that neither console has had any issues with heat. The PS4 is louder because of a smaller fan(smaller fans actually move more air despite being smaller). But, smaller fans also means louder. The only big complaint for the PS4 is the fan noise. So, I think it will be fixed with the PS5.

I personally wouldn't mind a $500 price tag. I think that's the most a console should be. I think Sony would be willing to take a loss on the console to give consumers a bigger reason to buy it, because they've done this several times in the past since most income is made from licensing games for the platform. I'd normally be quite doubtful they wouldn't strike the $400 price tag again. But, seeing how commonly adopted 4K screens are now, it looks like they may push for as much 4K performance as possible. AMD is really pushing for mass production to cut costs themselves and Sony is their biggest partner. If that extends to PC gamers on newer AMD cards then they will finally be closer to where they have wanted to be with the PC market.

Shikoku1872d ago (Edited 1872d ago )

@sinspirit

Yeah no, smaller fans do not move/produce more air, that's not only factually false its break the laws of physics and fan laws. I don't know where you got that from. A 60mm fan produces a certain volume of air and that volume of air only, a bigger fan has more surface area and more air volume the smaller fan has to speed up to try and lower heat by moving that volume faster but it's still the same volume which cuts into the service factor, which in turn shortens the life of the fan being used.

Sevir1872d ago

There is no way they're going to come in at 10... 10TF puts it below the performance of Stadia, that's launching in Fall this year, and that's based 100% on Vega/Zen1 APU.

This is Using Navi, and Navi itself Launches later this year, and this it's CPU is a 3rd Gen Zen 2... Basically top end stuff before Zen 3 launches in Summer...

We are looking at a $450-$500 PS4 that'll be about 12.5-14.7tflops in performance.

This is going to be a fantastic machine and a total generational leap. The kind that could potentially support 8k but do 4K effortlessly

seanpitt231872d ago

@ Sevir

I wish you are right but it sounds to good to be true.

Ju1871d ago

14Tf on a 7nm chips is about double the CUs of a PS4 Pro - at about twice the clock rate; at probably the same surface area or even smaller. This is quiet possible if they go for a high end chip. Doesn't really make any sense to scale any smaller. Well, at least that is what Sony is going for. The smallest version at least would be twice as fast as the Pro. We'll see. Looks like 7nm yields are at 70% (if that is true) which also means, that chip will be much cheaper in volume production; like if you sell 10M a year.

sinspirit1871d ago (Edited 1871d ago )

@shikoku

There are factors at hand that realistically show otherwise, for fans of this size, smaller normally has more cfm and static pressure. Static pressure is important here for these enclosed boxes. Especially for the PS4 because of the way it takes advantage of air flow throughout the box to get to the fan. But, I don't think it was necessary to have it designed that way.

Shikoku1870d ago

@sinspirit

No it doesn't the best path is the path of least resistant just like with water or electricity because air is a liquid for the purposes of engineering. A smaller fan regardless of static pressure will not produce more volume period it can under certain situation produce more velocity but velocity with out volume is useless. If you want to cool your system better and have a quieter fan, a bigger fan at at 800rpms speed is better than a smaller fan turn 1500rpms. Not mention that 800rpms air is cooler to begin with because it's moving slower!! Lol. Please point to your source for your assertion that flys in the face of my 20yrs of air flow engineering experience lol I want to learn too damn it.

sinspirit1870d ago

@shikoku

My bad. I was over thinking something about fan size

"Not mention that 800rpms air is cooler to begin with because it's moving slower!!"

So, what do these components need to cool off? Air. So, you're saying slower air is cooler? Okay, why would we need slower air for a computer? The point of cooling is removing heat. We need a medium to remove that heat. So, "moving slower" for keeping the air itself cooler doesn't work with this topic. We need that movement to counteract the heat being produced. I work with AC&R. Not your typical air cooling work either. But, no one cares about online credential postings

"No it doesn't the best path is the path of least resistant"

I don't understand in what context you replied with this. I don't recall saying resistance is what we need. I said there is resistance present due to the small size of these consoles.

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KwietStorm_BLM1872d ago

I'm very ready for this hardware

paintedgamer19841872d ago

Mee too. I can be patient tho. I have early adopter syndrome. If you bought the ps4 nov 13 like i did... 2020 is wayyyy too long lol

Gardenia1872d ago

Imaging what Sony's first party developers can do with this. Games like Uncharted 4, Horizon zero Dawn and God of War already look amazing on the PS4.

I only hope that the cooling system is much better than that of the PS4 Pro. I don't want another jet engine in my room

paintedgamer19841872d ago

This! The noise never bothered me but the damn heat lol. I have to point a box fan at my ps4pro to keep my room cool. But my phat ps3 did that too 😕

Parasyte1872d ago (Edited 1872d ago )

Gonna keep a close eye on what exclusive titles both consoles have this go around. I went with the console where all of my friends were, Xbox. Now, however, all but 2 of them have switched to PS4. I want MS to release some good compelling first-party exclusives so there can be some REAL competition between the two platforms.

That being said, if Sony were to announce a Killzone or Resistance: Fall of Man reboot, I would be sold!

sprinterboy1872d ago (Edited 1872d ago )

Between 10/12Tf, I'm guessing with the specs it'll be around the 10.
Remember as John says from DF they'll be suprise but also a disappointment somewhere. We can't get all the specs we want? I'm guessing closer to 10/10.5Tf instead of 12 will be the compromise
Edit: it might even be 8 or 9

dekke1872d ago

doesnt matter if its even 8tflops still better looking games than xboxyzsxxs can offer

sprinterboy1872d ago

Didn't say it wasn't did I. More than enough specs for nxt gen and more imo

Ceaser98573611872d ago

There was a rumors that PS5 will be 14.2tf and with the dev kits out. It could be true... Also Almost everyone who has seen it claims that its a beast. So ya its going to be a powerful machine at 499$.

OB1Biker1872d ago

I mean if you watch the video it all depend on how many compute units available right?
I dont really know much but it seems the GPU clock speed is kinda leaked?

Ju1871d ago

14.2Tf is 64 CUs at 1.8GHz. Ya, by the data we know what the max of a GCN can handle at this time. But then, this is a totally new chip. Who knows.

Sevir1872d ago

If they release anything at 10tf in 2020 that would place them at a disadvantage from Google and MS. STADIA IS 10.7 TF in a single instance... And that's based on Vega/Zen1 and launching this year.

Everything Mark Cerny announced about the PS5 points to bleeding edge stuff for what is about to release in this year/next for AMD's product line. Anything below 12tf is just silly, and MS is trying to make sure they don't repeat 2013 with a weaker more expensive console launch. So no. The PS5 is likely going to be a 12-14tf machine. That's in line with reports and falls into the competitive landscape of pushing high end, which has been there philosophy since entering the HD market with PS3.

Ju1871d ago (Edited 1871d ago )

I don't think Anacoda is a threat to the PS5. ...but if MS can build a Zen2/4TF machine for $250. ... that will be. Not so much for the high end, but it will beat PS4/Pro and all XBoxs combined for a very attractive price. I can't believe that is possible for that price, though, because at this price level, it's not just the chip that counts. But $250 is probably 80% of the market - if this box can run 60-120Fps @ 1080p... not sure who would make games for it and it would fracture the market way too much; probably high framerate PS4 like games, but not next gen. I think, Sony will take the high end, though. If 100M can keep their library to a next level I can't see these people jumping ship.

NarutoFox1872d ago

Both consoles will be powerful next generation. Whoever has the best exclusives will win the console War 😁😁

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Meta Is Doing With VR What Apple And Sony Have Struggled To Do

Shaz from GL: "Where Sony is ramping down support for PSVR2, and Apple are reconsidering their future with the Vision Pro, Meta and the Quest 3 continue to shine."

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ApocalypseShadow20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

I'll admit that Facebook is doing more for VR than others. But they also have blown over 50 billion dollars so far and growing in R&D, building the meta verse, buying up exclusives and underpricing their products below build price, to kill competition in the stand alone space. Sony and Valve aren't willing to go into the red at an unheard level to capture the market. We know Sony could build a stand alone device that beats Quest just by the features in PS VR 2 and the new stand alone headset they built. But the new Sony would rather build a device they can profit from day one.

But, Sony so far has profited on hardware and on software. They just don't seem willing to spend the money on marketing, selling under build price or spending millions on making in-house VR exclusives for PS VR 2. Which sucks big time. They're just letting 3rd parties and indies run the show.

Article also doesn't mention that Apple's headset is more a developers product than a mass market item. To say they are looking into making a cheaper one for the next iteration is speaking the obvious. Duh. That was always the case. Build something the public sees as quality not can't afford, then make another that the masses can afford. TVs, cars, cellphones etc all were once expensive. Now, they're cheap to buy with many options to choose from. And Apple isn't even selling VP as a VR headset. I'm well aware that Apple's true intentions is to build a device that pushes AR with VR as an option. Not build a VR device. Because they know eventually that they want to replace the cellphone with AR glasses or an AR headset. If they cared about games, they would have launched as a gaming device.

Lastly, Facebook launched Quest 3 last year. But has not mentioned how many they sold up to this point. Why is that? Besides Quest 2 selling more by being cheap, the market can't move forward until they start selling more Quest 3 headsets than 2. Maybe the new exclusive Batman and Hitman games will help. But we'll see.

helicoptergirl15h ago

Meta is also Billions and billions in the hole in regards to VR. If Sony were to do what Meta has done, they'd be bankrupt

ChasterMies1h ago

Meta is losing billions on a business that theh will probably walk away from like they did the Facebook phone. Temper your expectations of your investments in Meta’s hardware.

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PS5 Livestreams Are No Longer Speaking to the Fans Who Built the Brand

The problem for PlayStation right now – through a heady combination of its own adjusted marketing plans, the aftermath of the pandemic, and never-ending development cycles – is that it feels like it’s abandoned the kinds of software that fans have always valued most.

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-Foxtrot23h ago

My issue with the announcements over the past 2 years or so is that now these "big" announcements they hint at or whatever end up being just PC ports.

For most of their core audience, the people watching, we've played them, a PC announcement being made into a big thing and counting as one of their major announcements means f*** all to most of us. Also you have to think if they didn't have them then first party wise they don't have much else.

So now it's split between PC ports (God of War Ragnarök), live service shit (Concord) and the first party games we actually do want (Astrobot).

CrashMania22h ago

Yeah they really should leave the PC announcements to blog posts, most of the audience watching are PlayStation console players, not PC players.

Eonjay8h ago

I'm not sure I understand the stance. They surely want to sell their games no matter what platform they are on. Also leaving out PC port announcements isn't gonna magically make more PS5 announcements.

Abear214h ago

Agreed I thought the God of War announcement was more DLC, disappointing PC announcements on a hype reel doesn’t make sense to PS5 players watching.

CrimsonWing6910h ago(Edited 10h ago)

This particularly was a bad showcase in my opinion. Derivative Souls-like (which in all honesty I will check out because I like the genre, but I couldn’t tell you the names of the games without looking it up or how they’re different from one another), Concord, a mid Silent Hill 2 Remake. I’m not really into platformers so Astrobot didn’t stick to me. The only thing that got me hyped was Monster Hunter: Wilds.

Truth be told though, most of these showcases are ass anyways. I’m struggling to think of one that was firing on all cylinders like the good ol’ E3 conference announcements.

The shift to GaaS is absolute sh*t and for them to think that’s the game to make the focus shows just gives me little hope for the future of gaming, especially the state that the industry is in.

I wish they’d have shown Wolverine or something that would’ve been a “holy sh*t” moment… but nope.

ravens527h ago

Ballad of Antara and Where Winds Meet. They both look dope to me 🤷🏽. N If Concord is on PS+ then I'll take it. It wasn't as bad as people are making it out to be.

-Foxtrot5h ago

Yeah it's funny I'm the same, I can't remember the names off by heart unless I'm reminded.

I think most of these games are just starting to mush together where the one game we do want "Bloodborne" is no where in site whether it's a remake or sequel.

" I wish they’d have shown Wolverine or something that would’ve been a “holy sh*t” moment… but nope"

I don't think we'll see it for a while after the leaks

I just can't believe we've seen nothing on Spiderman 2 DLC, not like I'd be that enthusiastic about it myself but I mean in general I'm surprised it's a no show.

We got 3 story episodes within 3 months of the first games release and it took months to get a New Game Plus mode and that was before all the major leaks that happened

fr0sty5h ago

It isn' that Concord was bad, it's that we've all played it before.

Psychonaut852h ago

Yeah they’ve shown before that they have no problem showing teasers way in advance, so the fact there was no trade for any of the heavy hitting first party studios is quite concerning. I feel like there may be no Sony Santa Monica or Naughty PS5 only game this gen. Which is sad.

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Tacoboto4h ago

It sucks, doesn't it?

And the company that *is* announcing new single-player titles can't manage themselves at all and have both monetization and perception dilemnas they themselves created, problems so severe it puts all the titles they're announcing in a compromised position right out the gate.

Perfect Dark should've been an EASY win for the creative head of the Tomb Raider reboot, but it's in development hell. They cratered Starfield's potential by thinking it was ready for release last September. Hellblade received all the pressure of a AAA title despite being the gaming equivalent of an art film. They closed Tango after HiFi.

Sony has no pressure to change anything about what they're currently doing when the competition became a mockery by its own doing. With PS5 outpacing PS4 and being their most profitable generation so far, the people spending the money are saying they're totally ok with this approach.

Christopher4h ago

Where's. My. First. Party. Support. ?.

just_looken37m ago

@fox 100% agree

Along with that is the new leadership pushing into the "modern" audiance crap now there getting into mobile gaming with no doubt more microtransactions in there games.

As of june 1rst one person Hiroki Totoki,serves as the Chair of Sony Interactive Entertainment (SIE) and the President, COO, and CFO of Sony Group Corporation.

That is way to much power no checks no real hey that is a bad idea not to mention the work load

https://gamerant.com/playst...

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isarai17h ago

This gen just sucks, period. More PS4 games have come out than PS5 exclusives, and we're almost 4yrs in. Then this unwanted GAAS push which is completely tone deaf, and not what their fanbase wanted. Feel like im just watching a childhood friend kill themselves with an addiction.

purple10112h ago

the gas is in ADDITION, to all their other games, thats why they brought more studios,

so the old ones can continue doing what they do best.

Yi-Long9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

The argument 'GAAS is in addition to what we already had' kinda goes out of the window when we can see very clearly a lack of SP offline games, Sony killing studios and IPs left, right and center, and pushing 'always online' in games that never had it and don't need it (Gran Turismo).

You can clearly tell that earlier generations offered far more in terms of diversity/variety of genres, be it Everybody's Golf, Driveclub/Motorstorm, LittleBigPlanet, Modnation Racers, Jak & Daxter, Gravity Rush, Ico, Sly Cooper, Locoroco, Tearaway, whatever.

It feels like they killed off anything that wasn't going to sell massive numbers but did offer something fresh and original and were just 'fun'.

shinoff21839h ago

Imagine if some of those new studios were working on single player games. Sony would have it locked. Instead we get trash.

isarai5h ago

Not really, for a few studios that's literally all they are making, and for others, it being ADDITIONAL is the problem as it is delaying anything else they may be working on, hell ND had to cancel theirs because it was getting in the way.

EazyC4h ago

That's what it looks like now but it is already cannibalizing the other aspects of their brand. These things historically happen slowly, and then all at once...the brand you once knew is unrecognisable

SimpleDad4h ago

That's such a bad narrative. So wrong and we see the end results. No single player games... only Marvel.

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MrBaskerville10h ago

Though, do note that since summer last year, more and more games have been current gen only. Lots of smaller titles, but of bigger stuff there's Baldurs Gate 3, Alan Wake 2, Rise of the Ronin, Dragons Dogma 2, FFRebirth and so on. Being on ps4 only, means you will be missing out on a lot of releases both major and minor.

anast6h ago

Roughly 5 PS5 exclusives have come out, this is a similar drop rate than PS4.

anast4h ago

Through first party releases this gen through may 23: Astro's, Stranding directors Cut, Destruction all stars, GT7, GT7 VR, Miles Morales, Rift Apart, Demon's Souls, Returnal, and Sack Boy. There are more. Some will say well they release some of those on PS4. I say play them on PS4 and then play them on PS5, then tell me it's just as good.

isarai4h ago

Stranding is not 1st party and it's still a ps4 game just with minor additions. Miles Morales is also a ps4 game, gt7 is also a ps4 game, sackboy is also a ps4 game, so you got returnal, demon's souls, and destruction all stars, also Spider-Man 2, so 3 launch window games and one later game exclusive to ps5, with 2 of those by the same studio, In 4yrs,

anast3h ago

They are still PS5 games. When I play some of these that can be played on both systems. One is a PS4 and the other is a PS5 experience, To say otherwise is disingenuous. For some reason, I can't get my Stranding PS5 directors cut to work on my PS4. And I cant get GT7 VR to work on my PS4 either....and so on. Sony first party studios have been releasing close to the same clip as PS4. This is a fact.

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EazyC4h ago

It's making them money but like the M$ thing, Sony is going to start killing their brand over the longer term. Especially now that they're basically running a monopoly.

I plugged in my PS3 recently and it was a mixture of uplifting and depressing. Modern gaming STINKS.

Psychonaut852h ago

Great analogy. They see the Fortnite money and think maybe if they just keep hurling shit at the wall something will stick. Gambling with cumulatively billions of dollar AND people’s livelihoods. AA and indie is the future, unless AAA pulls their head out of their see which is unlikely

ChasterMies1h ago

Everyone is focused on having current gen exclusives as if losing last gen support will magically make games better. Games like Fortnite and GTA V embraced last gen and were huge hits. Switch games like Zelda looked worse than last gen and were huge hits. If this console generation is like any other, we won’t see the best of current gen games until next year.

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Profchaos12h ago

Yeah this 9th generation has been the biggest let down out of every console generation I've experienced since the 8 bit era.

For the first time in near 30 years I feel like Sony has completely abandoned the fanbase that got them to where they are. We see GAAS being shoved down our throats and fun replaced by lootboxes and milking us. This isn't the Sony experience I ever wanted

if I wanted to be exploited I'd play a mobile game

I find the modern line up though just lacks innovation which earlier generation games had in spades we only get what is going to sell big numbers even if the games a single player games it's likely so by the book I feel like I've played it before.

I think the PS2 was likely the golden era for experimental game design everything since that has been game design by bored room

MrBaskerville10h ago

Atleast I think they've pivoted back to singleplayer stuff. But it will take a while. I think they will announce some big game next year, like Ghost Of Tsushima 2 or something. Notice how they showed us Concord and Astro Bot a few months before release. I think the time of knowing what's on the horizon is over.

shinoff21839h ago

Although the lack of 1st party ps5 games only is there. I'm still having a blast. Much more then the ps3 generation.

Storm238h ago

Not me I mean I am having fun, but the PS3 generation was my favorite ever, by far, and man do I miss those times...

EazyC4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

I always feel like these "still having a blast" guys are like people at parties who stay after things get really stale, not realising they're dancing alone in their faeces-stained undies

rippermcrip8h ago

Care to list all the "Sony" GAAS games with all the loot boxes and milking? Aside from Destiny (which already was like that when they bought it), what are you referring to?

fr0sty5h ago

I think they're still recovering from Jim Ryan... in the gaming industry, just firing a guy isn't going to immediately undo all the projects he greenlit to see his myopic GaaS vision come to life, they have to cut some of those projects, and do their best to recoup losses on others... but I do think Sony realized this isn't the way we want to see PlayStation go, which is why he lost his job.

EazyC4h ago

I feel like we haven't even seen anywhere close to the full push yet.

Mark my words. By the end of this generation, it will be game over for ANY semblance of what we loved as videogames, and by extension, the PlayStation brand

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lellkay10h ago

I love my PS5, but these state of plays are 100% not delivering.

VersusDMC9h ago

Granblue relink
FF7 Rebirth
Helldivers 2
Rise of the ronin
Stellar blade
Concord
Astro bot
Silent hill 2

How is this years list not mostly games that a playstation fan would like?

Armyofdarkness9h ago

Great games all, except Rise of the Ronin! It sucks!

FACTUAL evidence8h ago

Sony fans usually just type list out in abundance to make it look good, no matter how crappy. I used to literally laugh out loud back in the ps3 days when people will type out long list of exclusives, and add “Afrika” and also “the last guardian” and “the agent”. Lol The last guardian didn’t even see that generation, and sony fans are still waiting for the agent.

TL;DR ignore the sony list, they just like to name games only on their console no matter the status.

InUrFoxHole6h ago

@Factual evidence
We're eating over here. Keep your fake concern for Sony over there. We're just waiting for the showcase

FACTUAL evidence1h ago

@InUrFoxHole

Fake concern? I’m not even concerned for Sony, I know they could do better. Most importantly the fanboys know they could do better. Not saying sony is doing bad, but just stating the obvious how fanboys thiink they could do no wrong. BTW PS is my console preference so don’t even try to make me look like I’m downing Sony.

thesoftware7309h ago

Versus, I know you have to defend to the end, but dont be dense.

If you read the comments, you can see that people are talking about Sony's first-party output, past innovation, and its usually high-level game output. You posted a list of 3 games that are not out yet: 2 mid games, one Gaas, and 2 paid-for 3rd party exclusives. I do not hate your list, but that is not what people here are talking about.

VersusDMC8h ago

I am replying to the article.

i"s that it feels like it’s abandoned the kinds of software that fans have always valued most."

Sony is making deals for mostly single player games just as it always has.

And the argument that only games made by studios that Sony owns matter is beyond brain dead and i just look at all the games released on a console that isn't on the competitions.

Profchaos9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

The only game on that list that interests me is astro bot and I'm a PS fan since it's inception. Let be honest there's not a lot of amazing games on that list maybe astro bot and helldivers

FF another rpg in a long running franchise selling less and less each entry
Helldivers 2 a fun live service game I got a few hours of enjoyment with friends
Rise of Ronin may aswell play ghost of Tsushima
Stellar blade yeah ok you have to admit this one is beyond niche
Concord amazing cutscenes lackluster Game
Astro bot day 1 I'm so there
Silent hill 2 verdict is still out on this one.
Granblue ok I take stellar blade being niche back granblue I've never heard of

The games your listing here are not all that great outside of astro bot and helldivers.

This is the bare minimum release schedule as far as exclusives I'd expect similar on switch and Xbox really.

VersusDMC9h ago

You'd expect similar on xbox and switch but you aren't getting it. Without looking into it i just think hellblade 2, princess peach and paper mario is the only console exclusives that the competition has released and are selling less than the "niche" games on the playstation side.

Profchaos8h ago

Actually I thought paper Mario sold quite well peach however yeah that was a flop on the switch side of things they kind of have an excuse it's the end of life for that system but they are still getting new games of a good quality.

Yeah Xbox I don't own a Xbox I don't want one especially with their recent flip flopping and basically killing of the brand but there's a good chance they have a new Doom game this year and I've been a room fan since the first game.

hiroyukisanada7h ago

@VersusDMC yes, I own the first four on that list and I have had an absolute blast with them. For those who play a variety of games, they really are fantastic with over 100 hours of gameplay for each title. Granted, only one is a true "blockbuster" like a traditional first party Sony game. Which is Rebirth.
Sounds like the people complaining only want that, which is fine, I guess. Their loss by not choosing all the games on that list 😂
Silent Hill is looking a little rough and not my cup of my tea, but the rest of that list is excellent.

-Foxtrot4h ago

Why is it everytime people talk about Sony's FIRST PARTY STUDIO output the counter argument is posting a bunch of games from third party developers

We're talking about first party and how Sony isn't about trying new things or having variety like past generations.

It's just Sony playing things super safe these days.

VersusDMC4h ago

Why is it that when an article says Software people don't count the THIRD-PARTY exclusives?

The begining of the article mentions the trifecta of announcements of Final Fantasy 7 Remake, Shenmue 3, and The Last Guardian. One third party exclusive , one multiplatform and one first party.

So if the article talks about third party games why are you only mentioning First party?

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Interview: Winifred Phillips Discusses the Wizardry Soundtrack -- Gamerhub UK

The talented music maker discusses her process, challenges and, of course, magic!

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