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Microsoft's Bringing Xbox Live to Android and iOS

Microsoft's bringing Xbox Live services to iOS and Android with a new SDK that opens the door to a lot more than simply matchmaking.

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lxeasy1876d ago

I wonder when Project X Cloud will be ready for the masses. 'm ready to stream my Xbox Games on my phone when I'm traveling.

Eonjay1876d ago

There is a beta later this year.

bouzebbal1876d ago

Just release it on PS consoles already..
Maybe that can give vita a second life

81BX1876d ago

@bouzebbal
That would be awesome for gamers

Kingthrash3601876d ago

If ps now couldn't do it.....

luckytrouble1876d ago

I hope you don't expect anything even remotely functional. Game streaming requires a stable, high speed connection. Variable 4G speeds will not be even remotely fast or stable enough for a passable experience.

NarutoFox1876d ago

Facts. Gotta wait for 5G speeds

Sophisticated_Chap1876d ago (Edited 1876d ago )

We have to wait for millimeter wave, cancer causing, mind control 5G internet tech, which will give the masses latency free internet connectivity. Self driving cars will also require 5G.

luckytrouble1876d ago

Honestly, even with 5G, you might get high enough speeds to get decent streaming when close enough to a tower, but the big problem of speed consistency will never go away. Coverage nets for every major provider basically the world over has massive holes, and even when an area is actually covered, I'm sure everyone with a smartphone has experienced a time where within half a block they went from seemingly a full strength connection to speeds that make 3G seem fast. It's an inherent problem with cell phone service in that unless you are basically sitting on a tower, your speeds could dip and rise standing in the same spot due to carriers pulling all kinds of bs with peak usage time throttling and other crap.

Mobile game streaming will never be good, at least not with current or even next generation wireless technology. Passable in some places, but hardly desired. It will be a long time before I can recommend streaming on anything that doesn't have an Ethernet cable hooked into it with a connection that can maintain at least 40Mb/s (note that is megabits, not megabytes).

akbennyewu1876d ago

Ok you know best, got it.

Ratchet751876d ago

Especially if you re not 1m away from your modem.
Lol😂

frostypants1875d ago (Edited 1875d ago )

What do you mean? MS would NEVER overestimate the capabilities of the cloud............. /s

Streaming in the home on the same network would work though.

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blacktiger1876d ago

You can do same thing with playstation now

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Christopher1876d ago

You can remote play from PS4 on iOS, Sony Android devices, and Vita, but PSNow is still limited to PC outside of PS4 ( https://www.playstation.com... ). I don't think you can remote play the PSNow games streamed to your PS4, even doing so would be one of the worst playing scenarios I can think of.

SLiSH831876d ago

Will MS make a MFi compatible controller for iOS

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SkippyPaccino1876d ago (Edited 1876d ago )

Microsoft: "you might not want to buy our subpar games or our console, but we don't care! We will muscle our way in and you will learn to love us, because we are the all mighty Microsoft!!"

Gamers: "Why don't you start by making great games for a few years before shoving your subpar brand down our throat?"

I've never seen a company achieve so little, yet feel like they're the best to lead the industry forward. That's some high level arrogance on Microsoft part.

optimus1876d ago

yes of course, not unlike sony saying our console is for the upper class, if you want it and can't afford it "then get a 2nd job.".... "we could put out a console with 0 games and it will still sell millions."... that's not high level arrogance at all, right?🙄

Urzusix1876d ago

Like saying if you don't have the internet they buy a 360? lol Both company's said some stupid stuff

kneon1876d ago (Edited 1876d ago )

Here's the real quote

"for consumers to think to themselves 'I will work more hours to buy one'. We want people to feel that they want it, irrespective of anything else."

It's not what people commonly portray it to be.

The Wood1876d ago (Edited 1876d ago )

Misquoted but when you just need a retort. . . Regurgitate anything that can be spun into a negative for . . . . . .reasons

I think MS is doing their own thing. Nothing wrong with that. They've tried in the past to fly too close to the sun but they seem persistent in their efforts to leverage live onto as many devices as possible. It's no guarantee for success but what's wrong with them trying something different. If they quell the delusions of grandeur and arrogance they showed at the start of this gen, they may actually meet one of their goals.

2pacalypsenow1876d ago (Edited 1876d ago )

Sony never said that tho...

Dragonscale1876d ago

@optimus, they never said that fgs.

yomfweeee1876d ago

Awww making up quotes to defend Microsoft.

Gwiz1876d ago

The console sure, but they still had to keep going while MS obviously doesn't.

optimus1876d ago

"but he didn't say that, stop it! he didn't say that!" good lord. 🙄.... let's take a stroll through memory lane shall we?... I'll just leave this here .... https://kotaku.com/thanks-f...

rainslacker1876d ago (Edited 1876d ago )

Yeah, just like those things that Sony never said.

Especially that 2nd quote. Where did that come from? never once Sony imply that, or suggest they weren't going to put out games. They're always about how they're going to support and release games. Sony execs have said some strange things over the years, but never seen them say something so cynical towards the gamers. I couldn't find reference to that 2nd quote in the memes you posted. You also change the context of the 2nd job quote, which is nothing new, and strange that after all this time, Xbox fan boys still show their ignorance because they've certainly been corrected on the meaning of the quote enough times. Even if you read it with trying to spin it, he doesn't actually tell people to get a 2nd job...so, double fail there I guess.

I guess if we're going to make up quotes, I'll go next.

Remember that time that Spencer said he'd give a free Xbox to anyone who sacrificed a white bunny rabbit in the name of Greenburg because he knew that people were so desperate for one, they'd do anything to get one? Man, those were the days. Strange it didn't get any media attention. I remember it clearly.

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TacoTaco1876d ago

That's some high level reaching. Tell me: since 2013, which of the big three has received the harshest criticism and which has done the most to address it in a way that most benefits the users?

Can't be Nintendo. You can't even copy a game save onto an SD Card.
Can't be Sony. They are censoring major releases now (DMC5), have successfully adopted Microsoft's awful 360 marketing strategy of securing 3rd party timed DLC exclusives, and their Cross-Play stance isn't the friendliest. It's absurd that iOS and Android have been together since their very first mobile multiplayer games but just *talking* about PSN-XBL Cross-Play is pure tabboo.

Microsoft leads the charge on backwards compatibility. Microsoft leads the charge on wanting you to play with who you want wherever they could be. They certainly don't lead the charge on quality games, but that shouldn't discredit them from all the good they are now preaching, especially since they threw out the window the *entire* original Xbox One Vision precisely because they chose to listen - and respond to - criticism.

Shikoku1876d ago

If you mean MS then you haven't been paying attention. They backtracked on the policies on xbone but are marshaling ahead with their plan anyway now its just hidden better. They are still pushing an all digital controlled by them market place, killing used games and using a cloud streaming device to push games a s a service that gamers told them loudly and clearly 6yrs ago we don't want and what have they done? Pushed head anyway.

TacoTaco1876d ago

I'm still able to put my Ninja Gaiden disc from the OG Xbox in and it works better than ever on my One X. Not that I need the disc, since it's on Game Pass.

On PSN I purchased God of War for cheaper than it was at retail that week. I own the original trilogy on disc but I can't play any of them on my PS4... Every single purchase I've ever made on Steam on PC has been cheaper than those games ever were at retail too (and hey, they all work on my PC!). In a few months, I'll finally be able to play Halo Reach on PC, purchased through Steam. Digital isn't evil when it's convenient and can be more affordable...

You're free to complain but I'm quite enjoying the multiple ways to buy and enjoy the games I want to play.

Do not use game streaming as an example of a bad Microsoft action. Sony spent several hundred million dollars to purchase a company and has had their PSNow service running for years already...

kingcorey1876d ago

Sony led the industry and microsoft back tracked and followed, sony leads the industry with high quality and high quanity exclusives.. Games... This is all about games. sony and nintendo have the best developers and are the best at making games.. No question or arguement can be made about that.

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Rhythmattic1876d ago (Edited 1876d ago )

taco,
you do realise PS2 was backwards compatible with PS1 o launch.. The launch PS3 was backwards compatible with hardware, not software emulation...Theres a reason the emotion chip was dropped from the P3, and the following sku's had software emulation, in which not all titles were particularly solid...... This was to reduce cost.... Now everyPS up to PS3 had BC on Launch... ON LAUNCH.
Theres a reason with the PS4 there was no BC... The Cell cannot be emulated buy even a decent PC, Little lone a console... Sure, theres a emulator out there, but still it only runs a few games.. Even with PSnow, Sony use PS3 a proprietary rack that has equivalent of 8 Cell PS3 machines... Its Not X86 Architecture..... If X86 could run the Equivalent of 8 PS3's in a rack, dont you think sony would be running them???
And to use your own statement, say modified..
"specially since they threw out the window the *entire* proprietary architecture model, precisely because they chose to listen to Developers/Programmers - and respond to - criticism.
by Getting Mark Cerny involved, and listing, really listening to people in the industry, sony now have a platform that can develop through time, instead of taking steps back due to new unknown architecture even new gen....

As just ignore remote play, and Share play... Something the PS4's been doing for years... Oh , and streaming PSnow, oh, and as of today i noticed iOS is supported......Interesting....
To Add, The PSVR Rocks..... Go on, Hate on it.

Dragonscale1876d ago

@taco, pure desperation. Ms know they can't compete directly with Sony or Nintendo so have to use subterfuge, all that stuff you quote is pure virtue signalling. The only thing they listened to was the sound of crickets at the start of this gen.

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darthv721876d ago

@rhythm... and the 7800 was bc with 2600. So Sony copied Atari.

rainslacker1876d ago (Edited 1876d ago )

Sony hasn't had much criticism aimed at them because they haven't done as much wrong. Cross play and censorship are about the only two things that have really had any traction, and the "no games" argument died much quicker than I would have thought, which is probably good for the Xbox fans because of how MS is releasing games now. Cross play is a business decision which wasn't that big of a deal in the bigger picture. Censorship may be an issue going forward, but it's fairly new, and Sony isn't usually quick to react to anything. BC may be a thing, but Sony has extensive data on how many people use it, and what it's worth to try...so again, a business decision. What it ultimately comes down to though is that none of those criticisms are having an effect on PS, they are on Xbox. hence, MS has to react.

MS has had to do the most change because they've done the most wrong, and if you really look at it, MS is moving more towards services which require a connection, so they're just taking smaller steps towards the same goal.

In any case, MS is more trying to remedy its criticisms to be in a stronger position next gen. They've all but given up on this gen, so is it really answering the call to consumers that they are pretty much not even bothering to try with the X1 anymore. It's mostly just saving face. I don't see how that's in any way commendable. We don't know what Sony will do next gen, because they're providing for their players this gen. They have from the start, they will probably do so next gen. If they need to react or adjust due to market forces, they will. But this gen, they started off right, and have continued to do so.

RizBiz1876d ago

That's some next level fanboying there. Impressive.

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gamer78041876d ago

just because you are lacking in one area, doesn't mean you can't work toward fixing that, and concurrently have other teams within the company still innovate in other areas. (Also marketing is a totally different division, whether they are the leader or not they have a job to do) Nice try though.

Prubar1876d ago

What does any of your bickering have to do with the article? Sony wasn’t mentioned in the title.

optimus1876d ago (Edited 1876d ago )

@rainslacker....i was paraphrasing because it was so long ago but here you go.... it's #10 on that list...there, happy now? of course, i'm expecting you to say it's not the same thing. (rolls eyes) https://www.theregister.co....

Atom6661876d ago

Ahh, #3 ...My first time in a class action. I got a Santana CD and like $6 or $7.

optimus1875d ago

...and just like that, these sony backers turn into crickets. 😄

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william_cade1876d ago

Nice. Diablo immortal will look great.

Sgt_Slaughter1876d ago

Seems to me Microsoft is headed towards console-less gaming way sooner than expected

Kribwalker1876d ago

except for the fact they have already said they will continue to make consoles including a new one that was announced at last E3 that’s rumoured to release next year. Ms is moving beyond consoles yes, but they will still be making dedicated consoles

Shikoku1876d ago

That has no disc drive and is basically not a console in any way but is actually a local stream receiver.

Kribwalker1876d ago

A streaming console, a low end console and a high end console.
https://www.businessinsider...

They are giving lots of options to people to play what they want, where they want, including a high powered dedicated console

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THC CELL1876d ago

How so I've been on remote play ps4 for years started with a vita now xperia and iphones and android also not a amazing experience but will do some games well

Shikoku1876d ago

Wouldnt say the experience is amazing but most games are playable

gamer78041876d ago

ORRRR they , as Microsoft likes to do, have multiple revenue streams, I know crazy talk....

akbennyewu1876d ago

Wow, how dare you mention such a sound and reasonable business strategy...what a jerk.

EliteComments1231876d ago

exactly dumb comments i agree with u about

ElementX1876d ago (Edited 1876d ago )

I doubt they'll ditch XBox any time soon.

https://www.onmsft.com/news...

gam3r_4_lif31876d ago

Yeah thats why they will have the most powerful console next gen, because they are pulling out of a profitable business

thexmanone1876d ago

Don`t seem like it With 3 console coming next Gen, I`m only seeing more options too play games.

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Unity Draws From EA Well Again for New CEO

Unity has announced the appointment of its new CEO, and it's another former EA exec in the form of ex-Zynga COO Matthew Bromberg.

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gamerz52m ago

Poo is heart of this companies DNA.

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AMD gaming revenue declined massively year-over-year, CFO says the demand is 'weak'

Poor Xbox sales have affected AMD’S bottom line

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RonsonPL21h ago

Oh wow. How surprising! Nvidia overpriced their RTX cards by +100% and AMD instead of offering real competition, decided to join Nvidia in their greedy approach, while not having the same mindshare as Nvidia (sadly) does. The 7900 launch was a marketing disaster. All the reviews were made while the card was not worth the money at all, they lowered the price a bit later on, but not only not enough but also too late and out of "free marketing" window coming along with the new card generation release. Then the geniuses at AMD axed the high-end SKUs with increased cache etc, cause "nobody will buy expensive cards to play games" while Nvidia laughed at them selling their 2000€ 4090s.
Intel had all the mindshare among PC enthusiasts with their CPUs. All it took was a competetive product and good price (Ryzen 7000 series and especially 7800x3d) and guess what? AMD regained the market share in DYI PCs in no time! The same could've have happened with Radeon 5000, Radeon 6000 and Radeon 7000.
But meh. Why bother. Let's cancell high-end RDNA 4 and use the TSMC wafers for AI and then let the clueless "analysts" make their articles about "gaming demand dwingling".

I'm sure low-end, very overpriced and barely faster if not slower RDNA4 will turn things around. It will have AI and RT! Two things nobody asked for, especially not gamers who'd like to use the PC for what's most exciting about PC gaming (VR, high framerate gaming, hi-res gaming).
8000 series will be slow, overpriced and marketed based on its much improved RT/AI... and it will flop badly.
And there will be no sane conclusions made at AMD about that. There will be just one, insane: Gaming is not worth catering to. Let's go into AI/RT instead, what could go wrong..."

Crows9018h ago

What would you say would be the correct pricing for new cards?

Very insightful post!

RonsonPL12h ago

That's a complicated question. Depends on what you mean. The pricing at the release date or the pricing planned ahead. They couldn't just suddenly end up in a situation where their existing stock of 6000 cards is suddenly unsellable, but if it was properly rolled out, the prices should be where they were while PC gaming industry was healthy. I recognize the arguments about inflation, higher power draw and PCB/BOM costs, more expensive wafers from TSMC etc. but still, PC gaming needs some sanity to exist and be healthy. Past few years were very unhealthy and dangerous to whole PC gaming. AMD should recognize this market is very good for them as they have advantage in software for gaming and other markets while attractive short term, may be just too difficult to compete at. AI is the modern day gold rush and Nvidia and Intel can easily out-spend AMD on R&D. Meanwhile gaming is tricky for newcomers and Nvidia doesn't seem to care that much about gaming anymore. So I would argue that it should be in AMDs interest to even sell some Radeon SKUs at zero profit, just to prevent the PC gaming from collapsing. Cards like 6400 and 6500 should never exist at their prices. This tier was traditionally "office only" and priced at 50$ in early 2000s. Then we have Radeons 7600 which is not really 6-tier card. Those were traditionally quite performant cards based on wider than 128-bit memory bus. Also 8GB is screaming "low end". So I'd say the 7600 should've been available at below 200$ (+taxes etc.) as soon as possible, at least for some cheaper SKUs.For faster cards, the situation is bad for AMD, because people spending like $400+ are usually fairly knowledgable and demanding. While personally I don't see any value in upscallers and RT for 400-700$ cards, the fact is that especially DLSS is a valuable feature for potential buyers. Therefore, even 7800 and 7900 cards should be significantly cheaper than they currently are. People knew what they were paying for when buying Radeon 9700, 9800, X800, 4870 etc. They were getting gaming experience truly unlike console or low-end PC gaming. By all means, let's have expensive AMD cards for even above $1000, but first, AMD needs to show value. Make the product attractive. PS5 consoles can be bought at 400$. If AMD offers just a slightly better upscalled image on the 400$ GPU, or their 900$ GPU cannot even push 3x as many fps compared to cheap consoles, the pricing acts like cancer on PC gaming. And poor old PC gaming can endure only so much.

MrCrimson8h ago

I appreciate your rant sir, but it has very little to do with gpus. It is the fact that the PS5 and Xbox are in end cycle before a refresh.

bababooiy3h ago

This is something many have argued over the last few years when it comes to AMD. The days of them selling their cards at a slight discount while having a similar offering are over. Its not just a matter of poor drivers anymore, they are behind on everything.

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KwietStorm_BLM17h ago

Well that's gonna happen when you don't really try. I want to support AMD so badly and give Nvidia some actual competition but they don't very much seem interested in challenging, by their own accord. I been waiting for them to attack the GPU segment the same way they took over CPU, but they just seem so content with handing Nvidia the market year after year, and it's happening again this year with their cancelled high end card.

MrCrimson8h ago

I think you're going to see almost zero interest from AMD or Nvidia on the gaming GPU market. They are all in on AI.

RhinoGamer8817h ago

No Executive bonuses then...right?

enkiduxiv11h ago

What are smoking? Got to layoff your way to those bonuses. Fire 500 employees right before Christmas. That should get you there.

Tapani10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

Well, if you are 48% down in Q4 in your Gaming sector as they are, which in absolute money terms is north of 500M USD, then you are not likely to get at least your quarterly STI, but can be applicable for annual STI. The LTI may be something you are still eligible for, such as RSUs or other equity and benefits, especially if they are based on the company total result rather than your unit. All depends on your contract and AMD's reward system.

MrCrimson8h ago

Lisa Su took AMD from bankruptcy to one of the best semiconductor companies on the planet. AMD from 2 dollars a share to 147. She can take whatever she wants.

darksky15h ago

AMD prcied their cards thinking that they will sell out just like in the mining craze. I suspect reality has hit home when they realized most gamers cannot afford to spend over $500 for a gpu.

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Batman: Arkham Shadow - Official Teaser Trailer

Watch the Batman: Arkham Shadow teaser trailer for the next game in the Batman: Arkham franchise, releasing exclusively on the Meta Quest 3 in late 2024.Evil stalks the streets. Gotham City is in danger. And you’re the only one who can save it. Check out the teaser for the upcoming Batman VR game.Tune into Summer Game Fest 2024 on June 7 at 2pm PT/ 5pm ET/ 10pm BST/ June 8 at 7am AEST for the official Batman: Arkham Shadow world premiere reveal from Camouflaj and Oculus Studios, in partnership with Warner Bros. Interactive Entertainment and DC.

Petebloodyonion1d 11h ago

Nice to see some VR games following Batman Arkham!
Was a huge fan of Batman Vr on PSVR :)

Cacabunga1d 2h ago

Quest 3 only is a letdown.. need to see what the experience will be like.

Looks like Ratcatcher will be the main villain in this game.. you gotta love thos rat waves in VR. Was already too much with A Plague Tale Requiem…

Also gives hope WB is not giving up on Arkham series.. hopefully a Rocksteady full blown Batman game after the suicide mission they just got..

Petebloodyonion22h ago(Edited 22h ago)

I would not be surprised if a PSVR2 version is announced after.
If there's none, It would mean that devs truly believe that PSVR2 is dead.

And really loved Plague tale Requiem (feel bad about the ending)

Babadook717h ago(Edited 17h ago)

"If there's none, It would mean that devs truly believe that PSVR2 is dead."

Not really. It would mean Meta pad for exclusivity.

Regarding PSVR2 dying don't believe the FUD, it's healthy, has a lot of great things coming, and won't die for many years.

But that being said it looks like a great game.

Petebloodyonion15h ago

@Babadook
Not every company uses Sony's tactics of paying with the idea of removing content from others platform
case in point of Meta releasing a " Free" update PSVR2 patch for Beat Sabers while publishing games like Starwars Tales from the Galaxy.

But since we should not listen to the FUD how about listening to the devs of Rec Room the most popular social VR app about the PSVR 2 version of the game

"No current plans to bring RR to PSVR2. We’ve looked into it, it’s a non-trivial port, and we haven’t found a way to make it make economic sense. In an ideal world we would love to bring RR to PSVR2, but we just can’t justify the cost based on the numbers. Sucks I know, but that’s the truth.”

https://www.roadtovr.com/re...

shinoff21831d 8h ago

Shame that something like this won't be on psvr2. Sony really has to step up on this front. There's a bunch of neat and nifty games out there for it. I'll end up getting one once I get caught up buying all the rpgs I've missed these last few years. Anyway I can't justify spending money on this with only a couple major vr titles. Re4 doesn't cut it for me since I was never a huge fan of the game. To see this batman as an exclusive, unless I'm wrong. Sony gotta pump something up

mooreneco2119h ago(Edited 19h ago)

Sadly Camouflaj was acquired by Meta in 2022 when Sony allowed the psvr Iron man game to be ported to the quest, but given the amount of cash meta is losing never say never…..

Profchaos11h ago

It'll be a timed exclusive the VR market is far to small to have true exclusives unless meta or Sony shell out millions of dollars to develop them exclusively.

Extremely common for VR studios to run very lean staffing wise take smaller projects and aim for mobile, and psvr2 and possibly PC.

Probably also why so many VR games get released so buggy to

Toecutter0022h ago(Edited 22h ago)

What if Gotham Knights was a direct sequel to the Arkhamverse and was a battle for the cowl storyline, but the the traditional fighting mechanics while still being coop optional? What if SSKTJL wasn't set in the Arkhamverse and a wholey elseworlds story? What if this new batman game wasn't just VR cobblygook?

thejigisup16h ago

All vr games need to be muliplatform. In order for the medium to grow we need as many hands on the software as possible. Dick around with exclusives once vr as a format it's established and the general public perception is more accepting.

EternalTitan15h ago

Why cant we have a BATMAN BEYOND GAME, you corporate jabrronis?

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