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Halo Infinite's Long Development Explained, 343 Considered Doing a “Halo 5.5” on Xbox One

Halo fans haven’t got a new game since 2015’s Halo 5: Guardians, and, unfortunately, the next game in the series won’t be here for some time yet. Halo Infinite has been announced, but the game is currently without a release date – it likely won’t arrive until 2020, at the earliest. So, what’s the holdup exactly?

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Fluttershy771904d ago

Oh please no... Don't release a Halo 5.5 that would be lazy... Do it the right way; It can't be that hard, it is an awesome franchise... Stay away from the easy path: treat the IP with respect, don't try to over milk it, take good care of all the aspects that make a great game (all of them not just the ones you think will give you money). Don't try to make just another generic sci-fy shooter; try to blow everyone's mind... Because that was Halo in the past: the best damn game I've ever experienced... That should be your goal

Kribwalker1904d ago

Luckily if you read the article you would see they didn’t want to do that in the end

““When we [released] Halo 5, there were talks about, could we get another Halo out in two years? So, we did look at, I’d call it a ‘Halo 5.5,’ or a ‘Halo 6 ODST’ type of thing. A smaller game. We just investigated. Phil and I had a really good discussion on, ‘Where do we want Halo to go?’ If we really want Halo to be something for the next 10, 20 years, we have to do the work. If you want another game, we can do that, but […] my concern was, if you did something like that, I don’t think Halo would do well after that. You can’t put out a half-baked game”

Fluttershy771904d ago (Edited 1904d ago )

Yeah I did read that.
I wonder what Ross thinks about Halo 5?
Do you think when he said that to Phil he felt that Halo 5 was a half-baked game?, That 343 somehow endangered the franchise, and that they definitely could not repeat the same mistake in the future?

Rude-ro1903d ago

Reading words has less to do with reality when it comes to Microsoft.
Crackdown 3 was delayed to ensure the best product they could provide... and look at that winner.
What OP is saying is the very plea from all the fans. Done right, consoles will sell. The franchise is special, or was as of late. Take it back. Make a campaign worthy of another console push like with the 360. That’s what we all want. Fans or anti fans alike can not argue against a well made halo.
The faith in Microsoft is the issue per their action and over use of words.

zeetheron1903d ago (Edited 1903d ago )

Bonnie Ross is not a he. "Yeah I did read that. 
I wonder what Ross thinks about Halo 5? 
Do you think when he said that to Phil he felt that Halo 5 was a half-baked game?, That 343 somehow endangered the franchise, and that they definitely could not repeat the same mistake in the future?" Maybe read a little more?

Zeref1903d ago

"it can't be that hard"

….Has never developed a game before^

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spicelicka1903d ago

Honestly I wouldn't have minded Halo 5.5 as long as Halo 6 was still being worked on at the same pace with the same resources, meaning they have a separate studio do something like ODST 2. Only because I can only live without Halo was for so long and the drought is killing mee.

"Because that was Halo in the past: the best damn game I've ever experienced"

Agreed!

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EddieNX 1904d ago

Not even bored of Halo 5s multiplayer yet. It's the shooting game for me.

KaiPow1904d ago

Yeah, gimme more forge stuff in 5 and I'll be happy for another couple years

TK-661904d ago (Edited 1904d ago )

The multiplayer in 5 did a lot of good for the series. The issue is the campaign right now. What we need is a blend of the story telling in Halo 2: Anniversary/Halo Wars 2 with the level design of Halo 3 and we'll have one of the best FPS shooter campaigns of the generation.

EddieNX 1904d ago (Edited 1904d ago )

Agreed. I mean it's entertaining on legendary and what not but it's not as good as past campaigns so I hope they get that right!! The multiplayer is so good though.

The multiplayer in 5 is 10/10
The campaign is 7.5/10

EddieNX 1903d ago

Ricegum , sorry for expressing my love for Halo in a Halo article , how in appropriate of me!!!

Halo is the sole reason I chose Xbox over PlayStation this gen.

timotim1903d ago

Halo 5's MP is one of the best MP games of the generation...easy. That's saying something considering all the MP battle royal games that have caught fire recently.

EddieNX 1903d ago (Edited 1903d ago )

Absolutely , the gameplay is quite simply perfect and imo, better than every other shooter. I love.the ridiculous variety of weapons on warzone.

It looks truly gorgeous on the X at native 4K 60FPS HDR also!

crazyCoconuts1903d ago

How is the warzone stuff faring? Still active and popular vs. the standard arena matches? I played for a few months after launch but don't have it anymore.

EddieNX 1903d ago

I'm not struggling to find any, even ranked at my high level. There still must be hundreds of thousands playing, it is Halo after all...

danny8181903d ago

i consider it one of the best in the series! so much fun and competitive even till this day

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PhoenixUp1904d ago

I’d hate for them to take so long to develop this game and it doesn’t end up being the best Halo game of all time undisputedly

TK-661904d ago (Edited 1904d ago )

Hate to break it to you but no game in any major series is the best of all time "undisputedly".

Sherif1291903d ago

Call of Duty 4 would like to disagree with your statement.

TK-661903d ago

@sherif129

You think I can't find a number of people that disagree with you? Here's one list that disagrees with you: https://uk.ign.com/articles...

Hardly undisputed if one article and its comment section are all I need to back up my statement.

StrengthInNumbers1903d ago

the length of development does not determine how good a game'll turn out to be

Xb1ps41903d ago

No it doesnt.. but it at the very least shows promise by them taking the needed extra effort.

King_Noctis1903d ago

If that is the standard for every games then the sequel for most game would be disappointments

mandingo1903d ago

Honestly this game could be amazing but no matter what it cant beat halo 2/3 the nostaglia alone for those games is too much to overcome.

Sirk7x1902d ago

Gonna be hard for anyone to ever top Halo 3. That game was a damn masterpiece.

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obidanshinobi1903d ago (Edited 1903d ago )

It'll be a GAAS boring open world loot driven shooter with microtransactions built into its core progression, light RPG elements and crafting. They've looked at Destiny and want a piece of that pie, same as what EA did with Anthem. An on-going service game where thousands of players are buying microtransactions every week. That's what their main shareholders will be asking for and the top execs who make millions in bonuses alone every year will want that too. They don't play games, all they think about is the money they could potentially earn them and that means following the latest trends, developing games to manipulate you into spending more cash on them.
To think anything else would be insane.
343 aren't spending 5+ years developing a standalone story driven Halo game, that's not economical considering it may launch with a brand new console (no installed base). If it's cross gen then they can only realistically expect it to sell maybe around 5 million copies on the XB1 and that's simply not going to generate enough profit for a team of around 500 people working on the game for around 5 years.
GAAS is the only possible outcome I can see I'm afraid.

obidanshinobi1903d ago

Suppose there's the potential PC sales of Halo Infinite, though PC gamers have a lot more choice when it comes to quality first person shooters. And how well do Xbox games sell on the atrociously designed Windows Store? I believe Forza Horizon 4 had about 20% of its sales on PC, Gear 4 a bit lower, so we can expect Halo Infinite to sell around 2 million on PC and that's maybe being too generous, that's still not enough profit given the team size and development length for a standalone game.

traumadisaster1903d ago

What you describe is certainly the way the industry has become, and I hate it. However, it seems to me either Phil or one of his handlers follows gamer attitudes and has devoted the resources to understand the trends.

In addition, I also think MS is allowing some loss of money in order to do things right over the long haul, hoping to gain long term brand commitment over short term profits, ie. EA, etc.

As evidenced by adding niche features to x1x like A/V features that only cater to a few, pc play anywhere/cross platform mm games, even having the x1x for best multiplats that is a niche group, Gamepass which is a cheap proconsumer prob loss maker for them - but again niche, even original xbox/360 backcompat that only pull in a niche market, hell even finishing the mess of Crackdown and making it near enough to fun- just to avoid the pr mess of being another duke nukem/dakitania vaporware debacle all in the goal of long term branding enhancements.

They can afford to invest in the future and really have no other option to fight since they lost this gen and prob next.

UnholyLight1903d ago

Sorry I just can't see it, Halo just CANT go GaaS that would be a massive massive mistake. Also, they developed an all new engine for the next Halo and beyond...so the time went into that too. Do you know how long it takes to build an engine from the ground up!?

Donnie811903d ago

A new engine and more time in the oven will make infinite a genre defining experience

UnholyLight1903d ago

I agree, I still place faith in this team. People forget a lot of Bungie people went to 343i instead of staying with Bungie. These people care about the Halo franchise and understand it's importance. Every great franchise or be it ANY brand for that matter goes through a stage of downturn it's just the way things go...sometimes products fail or don't go over as expected. These are learning experiences used to redefine and rebuild a new, better experience.

I have faith that 343i along with the new ground up engine and the power of next gen will be able to deliver the kind of Halo experience none of us could have ever dreamed of. Only time will tell, but have faith people! Halo was the king, it's coming to reclaim the throne once again.

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The Finals Underperforms for Nexon in Q1 2024

Nexon has released its financial statement for 2024's first quarter, and it looks like FPS The Finals isn't proving the hit the studio was hoping for.

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BlackDoomAx9h ago

Too bad for the best fps there is atm...

Sgt_Slaughter2h ago

The market for games like this is too over saturated to make a dent in other established games' player counts. Trying to start all over with a whole new multiplayer meta and grinding to get better is not feasible when there's already a ton of similar games that have come out before it.

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The Big Inworld AI Q&A - 'Everyone in Gaming Sees the Potential of Generative AI'

Wccftech interviewed Nathan Yu from Inworld AI to discuss the dynamic NPC tech's applications to games as well as potential issues like costs.

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Xbox President Sarah Bond's Bloomberg Interview Is Corporate Fakery At Its Best

Saad from eXputer: "After Arkane Austin & Tango were shutdown, Xbox President Sarah Bond spoke with Bloomberg in what I believe to be utter corporate fakery."

gold_drake13h ago

im not really surprised by that, shes always been more a "let me talk about something else than what u want to know" kinda gal

Cacabunga6h ago

If what they are doing is that good, what’s the point of hiding the true story?

anast10h ago

She's a caricature of the shareholders.

PRIMORDUS8h ago

"Shareholders" I call them cancer, they are already rich to begin with but need more and more. It's like a disease, with no cure.

Leeroyw5h ago

I own shares in game companies. I'm not anything near a major share holder. I just want them to make good games and be successful because of that. I think it's the senior management that's the problem. They are the ones that should be making it clear to the shareholders what creates growth and ensures a future of their business. Not this weasle words garbage that she did on the interview. It was horrific. I don't know a shareholder that would be happy with any of them for this.

Profchaos4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

Same and I'm not rich by any stretch like most people's I'm just trying to keep my head above water these days most company's shareholders are made up of everyday people it's amazing how companies think we want something but the reality is we don't.

Disney are probably the worse at the moment it's shareholders voted on ending a lot of the crap and outing the current execs the execs turned around and said no we disagree with the shareholder vote

PRIMORDUS8m ago

I meant at the rich fucks who have millions in the bank already. They are making so much per year, that if they don't make what they are expecting they go into a panic, when in reality it will not even hurt them at all. Those are greedy assholes.

CrimsonWing6910h ago

Yea, it was and it’s insulting that they think we’re dumb enough to fall for this. Look, the truth was you took a gamble on these studios and while they released some games to critical praise and great reception they just aren’t bringing in a ROI. Be transparent, you’re not a politician.

Just tell everyone you spend money on projects big and small and when money isn’t being made you go over the potential of revenue a studio can bring in vs those that can’t and make the hard decision to chop them.

She says this whole thing about “success” doesn’t fit one meaning for each studio. Well yea, a small budget production isn’t going to expect to sell the same as a large budget production.

One thing I wish they did though was let Tango be an independent studio.

TheGamingHounds9h ago

disheartening to see no regard for the human cost of business anymore
the bad decisions and judgements of these CEOs severely impact the frontliners
these fake responses are just salt on wounds

RoadRacer9h ago

imagine havin the audacity to say "we need more games like hifi rush" right after closing the studio that made it lol
followin up with this show of "deflecting every question" was in poor taste

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