Sega Has 'No Plans' to Bring Yakuza Games to Xbox One

If you were expecting Yakuza 0, Kiwami, Kiwami 2, or even Yakuza 6 on the Xbox One, think again. Sega has confirmed that it has 'no plans' to bring any of the games in the franchise to Microsoft's console.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Whelp folks

[darthv72]

That's okay. Sega can bring Otogi 3, Gun Valkyrie 2 and Panzer Dragoon Patru to xbox one instead.

[Marioraider18]

Nah, I dont think they want to hit bankruptcy twice

[S2Killinit]

Why would they, so they can do a Shenmue? It wasnt a suprise when makers of Shenmue 3 gave low priority to xbox. They dont buy these types of games. They rather play sea of thieves and crackdown.

[galmi]

would love to see this line up, otogi and gun valkyrie used to be some of my favourite games on og xbox

[solideagle]

didn't they announce $55 million loss?
This company has such a strong list of IPs. They should invest in them, maybe start with Virtua Fighter...

[dcbronco]

It cost next to nothing to port the games to Xbox. This is definitely how a company goes out of business. Either you're in the business of selling games or not.

[lxeasy]

That's fine the Yakuza franchise isn't even good. It mainly sells in Japan.

[Nyxus]

It's really good actually.

[DVAcme]

Ix Easy to look like a moron indeed.

[King_Noctis]

That is your opinion. Yakuza games are really good.

Sega btw is realy stupid. They just announced millions of dollars loss, yet they do nothing to expand their franchises to reach more audiences.

[bigmalky]

It's suddenly gained a huge surge in popularity with the remasters, 6 and 0.

If you think it's bad, you've never played them.

[S2Killinit]

What?? Are you serious?

[LOGICWINS]

Heresy...

[TGGJustin]

The funny thing is this guy would likely be cheering if it came to Xbox. He's just salty that it isn't.

[Last_Boss]

You tried.

[shinoff2183]

That's crazy Ness yakuza is a great series. I'm not sure what you've played in the series

[Miss_Vixen]

It's actually good.

[CptDville]

Played Yakuza 4 on a Ps4 Pro. Could not endure to finish. To my own taste, it was boring as hell.
Still, my XoneX only goes ON to watch TV mas play Forza, therefore I can safely say, eventhough it is not a beloved franchise, there are people who like it and X desperately needs contente.

[Z501]

Yet, you played them all. Obviously.

[theXtReMe1]

I’ll never understand why any third-party developer would rule out any one platform and lose that money. Makes no sense whatsoever. Do you lose a chance to grab an audience that may have never played the franchise before and would buy games in the future. It’s a shame. Then again, the majority of sales for this franchise happen in Japan… Where the Xbox brand barely exists. Which I’m guessing is the number one reason why.

[Nyxus]

They probably just don't think it will sell enough on Xbox to be worth the investment.

[bluefox755]

They would be correct.

[MasterCornholio]

It’s already a Niche game on PS4. Can you imagine what the sales on Xbox One would be like especially with that small user base in comparison to the competition?

[BizarroUltraman]

muddasuckas!

[81BX]

True. I wouldn't buy it

[Ricegum]

81BX

Let's be honest, as an Xbox One owner surely you'd take any game you can get at this point.

[conanlifts]

But how much would it actually cost to port the games. Surely they could do it relatively cheap as a way to make a small profit. Sure it wont necessarily be a huge return but they just announced a $55 million loss, so any profit would help.

[RememberThe357]

Conan, that might be an indication as to how much they expect the game to sell on Xbox.

[rob-GP]

@conanlifts - not true. The game is built on the custom Dragon engine. That engine was created for the PlayStation consoles. They added support for PC but it will take a long time and a lot of money to adapt it for Xbox use, especially the weak base and S models

[StormSnooper]

Yup. If Shenmue 2 had not gone Xbox 360, the franchise could have been a huge success on PlayStation. It’s no wonder that Suzuki made Shenmue 3 a PlayStation game first and foremost. They learned something from the experience with Xbox.

[Bluemaster77]

Given the parity in Hardware investment would be nominal at best. It's foolish to limit the audience of the game under these circumstances.

[AspiringProGenji]

The myth that a game would sell solery because it is in multiple system has been busted already

[AspiringProGenji]

Which game sold more, TLoU/Uncharted4 or Tomb Raider. I’ll wait....

[travestyj]

Tomb Raider reboot was on PS3, Xbox 360, PS4, Xbox One and PC and still sold less than TLOU

[Donnie81]

Ok which game sold more the last of us or gta 5? See you can twist things however you like to fit your agenda. You wouldn’t be doing that now would you

[AspiringProGenji]

There’a no agenda here. Rockstar game on completely another level when it comes to sales so I comparing an exclusive to theirs is overkill, but there are also multiple examples of exclusives selling more than multiplats

[staticall]

It's an investment for them and Sega is struggling, judging by the recent news, they'll have to update the Yakuza engine to support Xbox, which might take quite some time. Plus all the licensing fees, learning for the team, promotions and stuff.

And japanese games are not so popular on Xbox, as far as i remember, first Nier and Nier Automata sold pretty poorly on Xbox (both 360 and One). And Yakuza games are very japanese. And i mean, originally, they didn't want to spend money translating Yakuza games in the West and even releasing already translated games (Yakuza 1&2 HD, for example).

[darthv72]

Update the engine to support xbox... how different do you think these two platforms are? I've never seen two platforms closer in spec than ever before and it's likely we wont ever again.

[rob-GP]

@darthv72 - the Dragon engine was wrote specifically for the PlayStation consoles. It would cost a lot and take a long time to adapt it to another console. Is not like they took an engine off the shelf like most developers do

[rainslacker]

@darth

well....one uses a derivative of the Vulcan API, and the other uses the completely different DirectX API.

if the two platforms were so close in spec that it was easy to simply port the games without trouble, I wouldn't have a job which primarily consists of writing tools which actually facilitate doing just that. It can take weeks or months to write a single tool which will "port" a single function from one to the other. Very low level, they're essentially the same on the hardware, but the low level hardware processing pipeline and graphics rendering pipeline are about as different as they come. The things that are easy to port are the hardware code which doesn't exist within the API's, because it's basic enough to not require porting.

Engine makers and devs pay the company I work for money just so they won't have to write this code themselves, either because they aren't equipped to, or because it's just cheaper than spending weeks or months writing it themselves.

x86 is only one part of the picture. There are something like 1500 x86 instrcutions, most of which are never used on the programming level, but have to be accounted for when you switch between API's that use low level code. That isn't always straight forward. The overall console instruction set is closer to 4000 instructions, because the GPU and controllers are also accessible through assembly. There are specific instructions to each console which don't exist on the other, which helps give them advantages over the other. If they're used on one, they have to be accounted for on the other, or recoded.

[neutralgamer1992]

Thex

Simple answer because Japanese games don't sell on Xbox. Porting cost alone might not be recovered forget any profits

Xbox fans don't support a lot of international games. The console is geared tiwards western gamers and that's just the way it is

[Segata]

You can still play them on PC if you don't have a PS4.

[porkChop]

To be fair, the Yakuza series really wouldn't have much of a market on Xbox. I do hope that changes next gen, but right now there isn't much place for these kinds of super-Japanese style games on Xbox.

[shinoff2183]

It makes perfect sense. They probably just don't think it's worth porting over due to thinking nobody on xbox would buy it. Id side with sega, it doesn't seem like a game that would be worth the cost of bringing over to xbox. Maybe sony has exclusive on the low.
Remember at one point sega almost stopped bringing it west cause they didn't sell. Now thankfully sega sees that people in the west on playstation enjoy these games. I've been playing this since yakuza 1

[Chevalier]

Someone did point out that Segas Dragon Engine is built specifically for the PS4 and it would take a long time to convert to use on Xbox.

[rainslacker]

Because when they figure how many people would buy it on the platform, it isn't enough to make the investment worth it.

Whether those predictions are accurate, I won't make a call on because I don't know what they were, or if Xbox fans would buy the games, but Sega feels it's not worthwhile. Something they do with a lot of game franchises really, and it's not always because of the platform.

[Blackcanary]

You are fully correct. I live in Japan and people don't buy Xbox's over here. PS4 sells out really quickly compered to the Xbox s and one. This is why you will never see this game coming out on the Xbox.

[Doge]

That’s okay. Just keep bringing the rest to Steam.

[italiangamer]

As it should be, I bet my house that the xbox camp wouldn't even buy it anyway. They only care about the BOOM, as in crackdown 3

[Automatic79]

You wonder why Sega revenue and profit are down.

[AspiringProGenji]

Because of no Xbox? Lol yeah

[Automatic79]

It's simple math, allowing games like Yakuza on other platforms increases the chance of profitability. Keeping it on One console (Sony) is not helping Sega at all just look at the reports. Don't understand you logic.

[isarai]

@Automatic79

"simple math"? , yeah so simple you didn't even take into account that it cost money to do that, a cost that would make this a big gamble cause how are you supposed to gauge how much to spend when you're already sure it's not going to do nearly as well as it does on the rival system? Ports don't just happen for free dude. and the series is doing fine, it was considered "doing great" before they even went ham on the western relases which they have stated matched the Japan sales in less than a month.

just look at the reports. Don't understand you logic.

[I_am_Batman]

@Automatic79:

Which one is more likely?

1. It's simple math and porting Yakuza to Xbox would obsviously be a huge success. Sadly the chairmen at Sega are collectively suffering from dyscalculia and thus are unable to make the right decision.

Or:

2. You aren't taking all the factors into account.

I'm certainly no expert but I know that simply focusing on the expenses & revenues isn't enough.You can have a guaranteed high profit margin and it could still be a bad idea to go through with it. For example the margin could be huge but the absolute profit could still be too small to be worth pursuing it. The time it takes to finish is an important factor. As a publisher you have to ask yourself if this is a productive use of man-hours relative to other projects they could be working on instead.

[gangsta_red]

Keep you game off of as many platforms as possible and you'll definitely be able to report huge profits and success.

https://n4g.com/news/223877...

[The Wood]

Oh c'mon guys. Stop. There's less of a guarantee this franchise would sell well on the Xbox considering some of the numbers we've seen for other multiplats and exclusives. Some games make sense. . but judging by what many Xbox guys say on here say the franchise isn't too revered. Definitely a niche title. It would probably do better on the switch.

[trouble_bubble]

They lost money because of mobile.

Mobile.

The problem isn’t their hits like Persona and Yakuza. The problem is they doubled down on GaaS mobile and none of you GaaS guys bought them. You didn’t. No one did.

Xbox is irrelevant here. Maybe Phil shoulda gone to japan in 2012 instead of 2018? Blame the boss. Blame GaaS and the publishers that listened to you. “Oh GaaS is the future!!!” Fast forward —> same player spends $0.00 on it LOL!

This is the GaaS MAU MT future so many here praised, predicted and wanted. Now you’ve got it. Y’all did this to yourselves.

[StormSnooper]

Sera said it was because of Mobil

[rainslacker]

@Auto

it increases the chance of more revenue, and I'd say it'd be a given that it will sell some copies. But, profitability is not a given. It depends on how much it costs to make the port, plus there are costs involved in distributing the game. Such as making physical copies, which being a different game than PS4, would require a separate pricing for likely a lower quantity. A thing that's not an issue for PC release. They could release it on XBL digital store, but then they lose out on potential sales.

There is no such thing as simple math when it comes to what platforms to release on. And if we want to simplify things, fact remains that the simple math points to it being less of a profit venture, or not enough of a profit to make it worthwhile for Sega to bother.

[Nyxus]

Japanese games don't sell on Xbox. Blame the Xbox community.

[DeadManMMX]

So you say. Yet games like Tales of Vesperia, Nier Automata, Final Fantasy, etc keep coming out for it. If you want to grow your audience you expand. Those of you saying ports don't happen for free these machines are damn near mirror images of each other built on x86 architecture. It's not nearly as costly as it used to be. This isn't like last gen, for Sega this is just another poor decision in a long line of poor decisions they've made over the many many years. Take it from a Sega Master system, Sega Genesis, Sega CD, Sega Game Gear, Sega Saturn and Dreamcast owner. On an unrelated note I can't wait to see Console Wars be adapted into a movie.

[gangsta_red]

Funny how there are still Japanese games on Xbox, some one must have not told the actual Japanese this.

[Nyxus]

@ gangsta_red: and many more skip the Xbox, even big names like Dragon Quest and Persona. But just take a look at the sales ratio between Xbox and PS4 for these types of games in the UK. It's usually around 80 - 20% in favor of PS4, sometimes even worse. And that's just the UK, which is probably one of the more Xbox centered countries.

[gangsta_red]

And yet there are still Japanese games coming to the Xbox. Their games might not sell as much compared to PS4 but they still sell, enough so that there are still Japanese developers that release their games on Xbox. And since you said Japanese games "don't sell" on Xbox you would thin there would be this mass exodus of NO Japanese games at all on Xbox...not the case though.

Seeing as how Sega is reporting huge losses it looks like they could use all the help they can get considering their titles haven't been burning up the sales chart on PS4 alone.

[King_Noctis]

Niche games don’t sell you mean. The myth of “Japenese games don’t sell on Xbox” should just go away tbh.

[tontontam0]

Sales on xbox will be so low it may not be able to cover the disc production cost.

[tontontam0]

"Funny how there are still Japanese games on Xbox, some one must have not told the actual Japanese this."

Funny how some japanese devs are still skipping xbox.

[trouble_bubble]

Nier Automata only came out for Xbox after PlayStation made it a hit. Don’t kid yourself. Platinum games was in the toilet because no one bought their games on Xbox either. Did you buy TMNT and Transforners Devastation? No. Took a timed exclusive to save them.

[rainslacker]

Xbox gamers will buy Japanese games. They don't buy them in droves, particularly certain kinds of Japanese games.

that said, Yakuza took a while to get to where it is now, and even now, i'd call it more of a niche game among the community than a raging success. It has a strong cult following, which helps keep it alive, and more recent moves helped bring the series to more light. But, that doesn't exist on Xbox. While it will never exist without them trying, Sega doesn't feel it worthwhile, because as it goes, Yakuza is successful because it's helped by the Japanese sales. It wouldn't have that with Xbox in Japan.

[jznrpg]

Because they tried to get into mobile games but were late to the party and invested a lot of money in a flooded market and lost big. If they brought Yakuza to Xbox let’s say and even had a profit but it was very low it would be better to spend that time on something else. They could lose money with Xbox or have small profit but probably not any better than that . I am sure they have market analysis done for Xbox customers and know that it isn’t worth their time. Just buy a PS they are cheap and have tons of games not on Xbox

[shinoff2183]

I love how everybody keeps talking about sega losing money and skipping the reason why. Mobile games is why, not because they aren't porting niche titles over to xbox. Imo the xbox ports won't help them either. Someone further up mentioned Japanese titles have a sales difference 80% ps4 20% xbox. For already niche titles 20 percent or even lower because there niche games doesn't seem worth it

[Soap_Z]

If they put it on Xbox they will lose more

[King_Noctis]

Lose what? The games are already working, they just need to port them. How much time and how much money do you think that would take? Seriously.

[jagermaster619]

@king
Dude trying to talk to Sony fanboys is damn near impossible because all they do is try to make their console of choice sound like they can do no wrong. Sony maybe selling well this gen and producing good exclusives but that doesn't mean Sony is the best they just did better.
Ms had a bad start and will learn from their mistakes next gen.

[The Wood]

@King_Noctis
I don't think it's as simple as porting being inexpensive or something that takes little effort. If this was the case I doubt there would be any 3rd party exclusives games.

Yakuza is kinda niche even on the ps so I could understand why it may not get ported across. You can't blame Sony fans for making their assumptions when it's Sega who made this decision unless Sony has some kinda deal going on. Maybe the sales for games from that region aren't as well received from the Xbox demographic. . I don't have hard numbers but from what a lot of the publishers have revealed the ratio of sales for multiplats is usually swayed heavily on the ps side. Add the niche factor and the sales are probably small on the ps.

Maybe it's a culture thing. I know many Xbox guys that love games from that region but I believe they're in the minority of the fan base especially since many games from that region are sp games. Hearing fans defend Phil's statements regarding 'impact' leads me to think their appeal isn't what it used to be for some. It was like the majority of Xbox fans defended that slight of hand masking over Microsofts sp deficiency. Risky?. . Anyway you reap what you sow.

I feel Microsoft should continue to push for better relationships from that region. Persistence can't harm their efforts.

@jagermaster619

Not sure what to make of that. So people have their theories why Sega are not porting. They're closer to the truth as Sega are clearly not porting. Why do you think they're not?

[tontontam0]

Yup they'll millions in advertisement.

[rainslacker]

The average AAA port probably still costs 5-10 million dollars depending on the game, and the game engine used. It's not as simple as hitting "build to 2nd platform", testing, applying for compliance, and calling it a day.

The licensing terms for a AAA game alone are between $.5-1 million dollars. Updates cost money on the system. Compliance testing costs money. Marketing costs money. Paying devs to port costs money. In this case, paying people to adapt a PS/PC engine to Xbox hardware costs money. Printing discs, and distributing them costs money.

It's not like you plop down 10-100 grand and it's done.

It's usually cheaper to build a game with both platforms in mind, and the "porting" is built into the development budget.

[trooper_]

You guys wouldn't buy the freaking games so that's not the reason why.

[TGGJustin]

Putting them on Xbox wouldn't change anything for them. There are more than double the amount of PS4 owners in the world who already are more likely to buy a game like Yakuza than those on Xbox. The game wouldn't even sell 100K on Xbox if they released it I bet.

[shinoff2183]

It ain't because of this. It even says they just put to many eggs in the mobile market. Xbox not having yakuza definitely ain't the reason sega lost money.

[DarXyde]

Automatic79,

Except if it costs more to port it than they make in revenue, that's definitely a higher operating cost and the loss would have been even more considerable than $55M.

It is a myth that expanding to other platforms means games become more profitable. You can have any number of multiplatform titles completely tank, you know. It doesn't really increase the odds of success unless it is a type of game that appeals to the demographic interests of all consoles involved.

A game like Red Dead Redemption 2 can be on any number of platforms because it has a wide appeal, but a game like Persona 5 would likely only be worth the investment on PS4 and Nintendo Switch.

[tontontam0]

Lol if they port this to xbox they will lose money.

[PhoenixUp]

When was the last time a heavily Japanese centric game moved a considerable amount of units on an Xbox system

[Chevalier]

Exactly. Idiots just keep on parroting the same reasoning, but, don't factor the cost involved and if they would recoup the production cost. Also here's a bigger factor is it worth the labour hours spent? The time and money could be just used on bigger projects that would bring in more revenue instead. Yeah lets just ignore that outside the major titles most Japanese titles get released on PS4 and Switch while ignoring the Xbox One for a reason.

[Abnor_Mal]

Right here on this N4G site many XBox fans called this series niche and too Japanesey and doesn't sell well.

[The Wood]

See the thing is not all of them are like that but it annoys me how they ignore those who did talk that crap when it comes to discussions like or sp games. .like it just never occurred. . Whatever guys.

[DerekTweed]

@ps360owner09
Yakuza series passed 10 million in 2017

[Soap_Z]

PlayStation saved Yakuza franchise and Xbots are bashing it to promote Crackdown 3's poor graphic

[optimus]

I'm betting they will reconsider seeing as how they lost millions banking on the mobile market in their latest earnings report...sega will take the time to re-evaluate its portfolio and give the gamers what they want... i.e updated or rebooted classics like streets of rage and Shinobi and cater more to consoles, every console at that....it's either that or continue to lose millions every quarter to the dismay of shareholders and be forced to sell some of their ip's or fold entirely....ball is in their court to keep their ship afloat.

[isarai]

Yes spending more money to port a series to an audience half as big as their primary, who by the way have no attachment and barely any knowledge about the series will certainly help their situation. That's like saying porting Crackdown 3 to the switch will save the series.

[optimus]

oh i see, so you're saying they should continue to release their old games on mobile for $2. and see if their luck changes. because that's working out just fine for them.🙄....
as opposed to releasing updated versions or reboots of their old games on consoles where their older audience resides and sell those games for $60 along with licensing out one (or a few) of their ip's they haven't touched in ages for millions to a developer eager to put their own spin on it, as well as taking a royalty in case the game is a hit they make even more millions and in doing so their shareholders are happy, and they dig themselves out of the hole their in...

if you want to look at it like a typical disgruntled gamer that's your problem... i look at it as what's best for business; to stay in business.

[isarai]

@ optimus

I'm talking about the Yakuza series, y'know like the main subject of the article. If they make any new IPs then yes by all means put it on everything you can, but trying to put the Yakuza series on XBox now is going to require far more than what they'd get out of it. And yeah i agree banking that hard on mobile was stupid, think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who'd disagree

[rainslacker]

I'm surprised Sega supports this series on PC/PS, considering it's not really a huge seller. It has a rabid cult following, and they're good games, but I think the only reason they get made is because they have fairly consistent sales, and the budgets aren't huge. Xbox in this case is an unknown, but other Japanese games don't sell as well on the Xbox, and I'd call this game niche even on PS/PC. Plus, a lot of the sales of this game are in the Japanese market, and Xbox in Japan is a non-starter, so the sales of an Xbox version would likely be abysmal.

[DerekTweed]

There's another thing to consider is what they actually say, there is no plan. Meaning they have a plan for the near/mid term future of what projects they will work on and have all their resources allocated to those.

It takes them 6 months to localise their Yakuza games now, before was 1 year at least.

They have Judgement just released in japan, localising it for the west.
The have Shin Yakuza or Yakuza 7 what ever it will be called
the HD remasters for Yakuza 3 and 4 are out and 5 still to come.
They might localise those for the west.
Yakuza Kiwami is about to release on Steam.
Yakuza Online released recently and I'm sure needs some resources for future support.

They've got a lot on and I think they just don't have time to be trying to start porting the Yakuza series to Xbox. They'd probably have to do all that are on PS4 eventually.

I'd love to have Yakuza on Xbox but luckily for me I have all Platforms so I'll just buy it wherever it is available.

[rainslacker]

Certainly, their future plans could involve releasing it on Xbox. But Sega tends to be pretty dogmatic about these things, and it tends to take a long time for them to come around to releasing games where they feel they won't sell as well, or they just do it begrudgingly.

In the mean time, Sega does go and release some games to Xbox because they feel they may sell well, but then they often go on to not sell well. Big IP's are usually not a problem, but their smaller more niche games like this, they just sell a bit, then probably cap out making it less viable to make money, and ultimately, makes their views on Xbox releases for such games easier to decide in the future.

It is what it is, and every publisher would do the same thing if they were in the same situation. But, a lot of it does depend on distribution method, engines used, and potential sales, so it's not an across the board metric which can be applied to every company, every game, or even just because it's a Japanese game.

[optimus]

...and i wasn't really talking about this yakuza game but more about their entire portfolio but if expanding to more consoles would help their financial troubles then they should include this game in the mix.

[antarius]

I’m guessing they can’t afford to after the 55 million dollar loss the company is reporting. Sega sounds like they are in trouble

[ActualWhiteMan]

Maybe they should with their 55 million dollar mobile deficit. Lets not sell our games to as many people as we can, and complain about those (who can) not buying our games.

[Blu3_Berry]

Not gonna lie, but I'm a bit surprised they won't support it at least right now. I wonder why that is. I'm sure there's some kind of market on Xbox that may be interested in Yakuza games. They should consider at least experimenting with it to see how it goes for them. At the same time though, we don't know the real reason they don't go to xbox.

[HighPlayer28]

Sega is acting dumb these days. Yakuza would make great sales on Xbox and Switch. Instead of being close minded Sega and trying to make it big on mobile like idiots focus on consoles.

[Chevalier]

No they wouldn't they already ported 1 and 2 to the WiiU and they didn't do well enough to continue even in Japan. They would have a bigger audience bringing them to PC than Xbox.

[tontontam0]

"I wonder why that is. I'm sure there's some kind of market on Xbox that may be interested in Yakuza games."

I think this is exactly what they are thinking and they don't want to gamble on that some kind of market.

[rainslacker]

I'm sure there are people on XBox who would appreciate the series. But the game is niche on PS/PC. It's a cult following, which is growing, but the game does fluctuate in sales between releases.

This is just a matter of statistics. Games like this don't sell in abundance on Xbox. There is nothing to suggest that it will do well on Xbox for many reasons. If there was reason to believe that it would sell, then it'd get made. Making the game for Xbox would bring in some revenue, and increase the games sales. but it doesn't mean that increase would return a profit, or be worth the effort of Sega to do so.

[Gamist2dot0]

I get it, not releasing multiple platform isn't favored by the community, but why put in the time and resources when there's little to no gain. Sega would have plans to release on the Xbox if the sales number of consoles were reversed. And this is why console sells numbers are important.

[OpenGL]

Not a shock, Xbox is nonexistent in Japan, has very little presence in Europe, and Yakuza is already available on the most popular console in North America.

[AngainorG7X]

Who cares?

[Ricegum]

Why comment then?

[AngainorG7X]

Because the statement refers to a console that i own. Is there a problem?

[The Wood]

And these are the exact same attitudes why a lot of games from that region won't appear on the Xbox.

[tontontam0]

Idiot people don't know what irony is.

[DerekTweed]

I do

[DrumBeat]

I'm sure the all the soldiers around bases are mourning the omission of Yakuza on the Xbox platform. Same with the rest of the Xbox crowd that are so far away that they don't know of the existence of the series.

[HighPlayer28]

Wow Sega you have changed for the worst. After Microsoft helped you build dreamcast this is how you repay them. There must be a Sony fan at the head of Sega now.

[Literal_Cringe]

Can they at least bring their Original Xbox titles to backwards compatibility? They don't even have to do the work since Microsoft does it for them.

[Pantz]

I would rebuy them all on Xbox but that's up to them. Sony probably has their claws into them with contracts.

[Nyxus]

Stop making stuff up, the Yakuza games are on PC as well.

[Pantz]

They can make a contract that allows them to release on PC but not on other consoles. Final Fantasy VII PC release back in the day being the prime example.

[Doge]

And the HD remaster of the OG Yakuza 1 and 2 were on the Wii U as well.

[Kumakai]

Considering how much money they lost, I don’t think they can afford to be choosy...

[tontontam0]

Considering how much money they lost, I don't think they can afford the advertisement cost for it to sell enough on xbox.

[TheColbertinator]

Steam then

[neocores8055]

Lets be HONEST this game just wont sell on XBOX in like japan nad so on no reason to use your resources if that console is not doing well?

[timotim]

That's a missed opportunity Imo. Why not open up the franchise to a whole new set of gamers? They could take the work done on PS4/PS3 already...the games would easily translate over and potentially nets you millions more copies sold. Then theirs the fact that they are already bringing them to PC. At the end of the day, that's their business, but I can't see why not.

[OpenGL]

They're not going to sell millions of copies on Xbox One, they don't sell millions on PS4.

[timotim]

I'm talking about in total, by bringing over all the games in the franchise, not a million in each individual game. And with Microsoft's stance on BC, the games are guaranteed to go forward in Microsoft's ecosystem making sure that if they do the work now, they could sell those very games for generations to come without doing anything extra. It just doesn't make sense.

[ccgr]

bummer, it's a great series

[AK91]

Do Xbox users even want Yakuza? They have their GaaS games and micro transactions they should be satisfied.

[timotim]

You understand that Sony also uses GaaS right, with PS Now? And the last time I checked, MTs were in GTS, Uncharted and Last of Us...

[ziggurcat]

PSNow isn't GaaS.

[timotim]

Of course it is haha. Its literally games as a service...

[ziggurcat]

"Of course it is haha. Its literally games as a service..."

No. It's a Games Service, not Games as a Service.

[timotim]

😮………………………… speechless. Out of sheer curiosity, can you breakdown the difference between the two for us all?

[ziggurcat]

Games as a Service is treating a game as though it is a service - A F2P game, for example, but they are usually MP-focused with ongoing (sometimes free) content updates, and filled with MTs (GTA Online would also be an example). PSNow is just a service that provides games, like Games Pass - neither of them are Games as a Service.

[timotim]

Fascinating stuff ziggurcat! So based off your own interpretation of GaaS, do you think titles like GTS for PS4 fits that bill?

[StifflerK]

For me the Yakuza series was the main reason I bought my PS4, if it was available on other platforms at the same time I probably wouldn't have bought a PS4 until later on.

[tontontam0]

With so many old games on gamepass they won't have time to play yakuza

[DerekTweed]

I want

[conanlifts]

They just posted a $55 million loss. With that in mind what would the cost of porting the yakuza franchise to xbox be. Surely it would be an easy way to make a small amount of money. Seems a weird choice based on the latest financial report.

[TheColbertinator]

Been a Sega fan since the Master System days and rarely have they been financially stable even before Xbox was an idea.

[trouble_bubble]

It’s like people forget they used to make hardware. They’ve been belly up before. Nothing to see here.

[conanlifts]

Same, I remember their past glory and fall from grace. But you would think based on their history they would make money wherever they can. Surely porting from PS4 to xbox would not require too many sales to make a profit, they could even opt for digital only releases to make it easier.

[UltimateRacer]

They don’t need to, it’s sell well on PlayStation and we all know that Yakuza being a Japanese franchise won’t sell on Xbox anyways.

[RizBiz]

18 hours ago: Sega Announces “Extraordinary Loss” Of $55 Million
4 hours ago: Sega Has 'No Plans' to Bring Yakuza Games to Xbox One[, alienating 40 million potential buyers.]

[tontontam0]

Lol considering how it sells on ps4 with 90 million potential buyers and factoring in the fact that most xbox users don't care about japanese games.

Estimated sales will be less than 50,000 copies

[Last_Boss]

Where can I find that banner art?!! Sheesh

[Thundercat77]

You know the drill folks...

Game is PS4 exclusive: I don't care, we don't need it, is garbage.

The same game, announced for Xbox : amazing game, can't wait to play it, one of the best Japanese games out there.

[lociefer]

Less talking, more bringing yakuza 3 4 5 to ps4, can't have a gap in my yakuza collection sega

[Orionsangel]

After playing an open world game like GTAV it's hard to go back to the outdated Japanese game play mechanics of this series.

[BlaqMagiq1]

People actually thought they would?

[Traecy]

Good!

[Flewid638]

Its not like they would want it. The view isnt first-person.

[BlackIceJoe]

I understand why Sega doesn't want to bring the series to Xbox, but at the same time putting it on the Xbox brand allows Sega to reach a new audience with the series and I for one would welcome it on Xbox.

[warriorcase]

Did anyone expect them to?

[ghostrider32]

So they'll put games like Sonic, on Xbox. But not Yakuza. Okay......

[DafunkyRebel]

Dumb move, Xbox players are desperate for more games to play so releasing Yakuza on it will get a lot of decent sale numbers

[Good-Smurf]

Why would they?
It's already a niche franchise on PS4 releasing it on XBOX would be like serving Tofu to steak eater demographic it will sell like crap.

[Nexus530]

That's a real shame. A lot of people gonna miss out on some great games.

[Imortus_san]

Yet they are bringing the Yakusa to Steam were the "code" is the same as Xbox, meaning a port would be crazy fast and cheap, I guess it's Sega's loss, better sell a few (considering Xbox fan base for that sort of game) then sell none, but then again the financial reports show just how stupid Sega is.

[Shikoku]

Odd stance.

[JesusBuiltmyHotrod]

Have any xbots come in to tell us how they are not good games anyway, yet champion Sea of thieves, State of decay or Crackdown?

[DaniMacYo]

🤣

[Scatpants]

Dorito Mountain Dew dude bros don't play Japanese games.

[DVAcme]

Makes sense, the drawbacks outweigh the benefits. The XBox brand is a non-entity in Japan, so it wouldn't boost sales at all over there, and as great as the franchise has been doing lately, it's always been more of a cult favorite than a blockbuster franchise. Besides, they're already being released and VERY well received on PC, which is the way to go to expand from the PlayStation family. Not only does PC have the biggest userbase, Steam reviews and word of mouth are very effective marketing on the PC side.

I DO think, though, that Sega should release the series on the Switch, though. THAT consooe DOES have a rabid fanbase in Japan and would welcome such a high-profile franchise in their system of choice.

[micdagoat19]

I would sell all my PS4 Yakuza games if they were coming to xbox one.Anything I can play on Xbox I do