You've Got to See This First-Person Shooter in Dreams

One project that’s been blowing our mind is Project Zero, a “cinematic first-person shooter with momentum filled gameplay”. It’s in production by a team calling itself DISARMED, which has already published some spectacular stuff in the Dreams beta

[Kavorklestein]

That's Impressive

[The Wood]

I have a sneaking suspicion developers will be born from dreams. There are some hidden creative's out there that may use this as their segway into the industry or maybe just to the next level.

[jukins]

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[crazyCoconuts]

Right. I hear recruiters go after mod developers... Wonder if they'll sift through Dreams for potential new hires some day...

[lucian229]

im imagining new dev teams will be born. Little big planet already had community collaborations including the last big content release "Carnavalia" worked on by LBP's best creators.

I feel as if patreon funded teams will be born for dreams. Modelers, music creators, level designers etc will all be able to get a dev team going and make fully fledged games.

Dreams will be the youtube of gaming.

[-Foxtrot]

Sony should host a contest a year after it comes out where they'll ask for the best brand new game designed from Dreams, at least one level long, as a basis for a future brand new IP that Sony will fund if they win.

That will get the creative talent out more and put them into full overdrive.

[Rimeskeem]

I believe media molecule actually took prominent level creators from LBP to help them make this game.

[DarXyde]

How rad would it be if Sony hired these guys the way SEGA created the Sonic Mania team?

[ABizzel1]

How to win next-gen Day 1.

Make Dreams an application pre-built into PS5, and allow gamers/developers to produce free/paid for content for PS5 with this creation tool, after being verified by PlayStation moderators.

This is absolutely amazing what they've made with Dream thus far in beta, and even graphically speaking none of what has been shown has been a downgrade from what developers with multi-million dollar budgets have produced and in some cases better.

A quick and easy way to allow people who dream of becoming game developers and easy way of bringing their ideas to life and gaining a following and spotlight from Sony and other developers in the Dreams community.

Sony needs to get on board with this and gamedev.world.

While people are concerned with hardware for next-gen (myself included), this is the type of announcement that wins the hearts of gamers and developers, and provides unrivaled diversity from around the globe.

Go to youtube and look at some of the creations in this game. Truly amazing, more than I EVER could have anticipated.

[ABizzel1]

Platformer / TPS / Action RPG
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Zelda / Dark Souls cutscene / PlayStation Home / Metal Gear / Portal Gun demo / Mario / 3D Cuphead :D / Ratchet & Clank / Flappy Bird / Leisure Suit Larry / FF7 Church Cut Scene / P.T. / Old School Wolfenstein /
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Prometheus FPS (made by 1 person)
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

The Encounter (space game)
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

[rainslacker]

That's what I'm thinking. The possibilities of having all these unique experiences from people who love games, and aren't hell bent on nickel and diming the customers, would be a huge draw to the platform.

Just think that every kind of game can be made with this system.

[BlackDoomAx]

At Sony HQ meeting today: ' Guys, I have an idea for the PS5 !'

[rainslacker]

Everything they release like this has been more and more impressive. I think Dreams is going to be huge.

If they integrate this game into PS5 somehow, it's going to redefine gaming, as it gives accessibility to what can appear daunting to the uninitiated. Things like this are going to get people's interest, and the amateur devs are going to eat this up to have such a large place to show off their work.

[Veneno]

Dang this is cooler than most of the junk that comes out from developers.

[Razzer]

Simply amazing

[ibrake4naps]

wow, and we're only at the beta! :-O

[King7]

This make me want a killzone reboot bad.

[Rimeskeem]

Make it lol

[blacktiger]

Seriously unlimited characters would be cool

[DaDrunkenJester]

Man, I love the depth this game making tool has. The crazy stuff that is going to be made will be amazing

[Relientk77]

I still do not understand Dreams and how stuff like this is possible. Haven't played it though.

[Razzer]

The guys at Media Molecule are using some kind of dark forbidden magic. I'm convinced.

[badz149]

I still can't figure out how some of the user created levels were made in LBP2 LOL. imagine Dreams, being a more robust and powerful tools than LBP2, the possibility is scary!

[rainslacker]

It's basically a game engine with a front end wrapper to put it all toghether. It uses a high level approach, but the functions themselves end up working on a low level principal, effectively giving you the power needed to utilize the consoles capabilities. Then it's coupled with a rather easy to use sculpting tool, and you can import work from other programs if you are proficient in them.

The coding part is "dumbed" down, but robust enough to offer up almost everything you'd have through a bigger game engine.

Once you learn to use the tools, it's just a matter of designing the game, and putting it all together with assets you create, or buy if you want I suppose.

This is going to be huge. There are lots of amateur devs out there, and plenty of teams of people who can put this stuff together. Considering the beta hasn't been out that long, and we're already seeing what we are from people who jumped into the fray, it means it can only get better.

Media Molecule has really done what I wouldn't think possible. No game engine offers up as many tools as you see here to create a full game from scratch. The fact its on a console is even more remarkable. If they make a PC creation program, for releasing games on PS, then it could be even bigger. Especially if they make it so one can actually sell their games on it. It effectively makes games exclusive, but offers up free tools, where Sony would eventually take their cut.

If Sony plays it smart here, they could have what is potentially the next big thing in gaming. PC has it already, but its not always quite so simple or all in one place.

[MrVux000]

Impressive, simply impressive!

My only question is what are the limits when it comes to creating NPC-s or more specifically how many units can you add into the game right now?

[FunAndGun]

There is a thermometer like in LBP. So it also depends how well optimized your characters are as far as animation, build, and logics. There will always be tricks to minimize the footprint of your creation.

[Akarogg]

Limitless, but you have to divide huge amounts of content between individual maps.Luckily loading between the maps are only 1-2 seconds. It's not the size of the map that's the limitation, but the amount content within it.

[MrVux000]

" but the amount content within it."
Which is what i'm referring to.

Obviously we cant expect to create hundreds of graphically intense (animation and visual wise) units within any map, unless i'm wrong?

I really doubt we could create a open-world game with npc-s in it like Elder Scrolls games (even with divided maps).

[rainslacker]

Not limitless. From my understanding, it does have draw call limitations, but it's quite high. May not see Days Gone horde mobs for a while unless they open some of the ways that's done through simpler draw calls.

Otherwise, you're right. You're allowed a certain amount of resources for animation, textures, objects, lighting, etc. You can adjust one to accomadate another. Just like you do in regular game development.

I am really excited to see what comes from this. I know some people at work are talking about building some stuff in a group. They've asked me to help design and program, while they do the art. I'm trying to convince them to use a story idea I had a long time ago, but never had the oppurtunity to make a game out of.:) But it's pretty ambitious, so probably be something smaller.

One of the artists at work is in the demo, and he can't stop raving about how easy it is to use for what it is, but says it's features are remarkable for what it is.

I've gone from an interested observer, to a day one, just so I can try out things like this from all the creative people out there. Twitch is going to love the content from this game I'm sure.

[Akarogg]

If you divide it up you can

[MrVux000]

Guess it sounds too good to be true for me.
But i will see it for myself when the game comes out.

[trooper_]

... Holy crap.

[sprinterboy]

I can see the community making a game round the clock, imagine a big team of community dreamers all working day and night on a game from all different countries?
I'm looking fwd to see what they can make with a 2 year time frame.
Its amazing what they've done with a 1 month beta so far.

[rainslacker]

I think team based designs are going to be some of the most impressive things that come from dreams. There are tons of talented people out there who don't want to be devs, but like amateur development, and this game apparently makes it easy to get into creating games. An artist type person is probably still needed to really make visuals like this, but couple them with a programmer type, and someone who understands good game design, and you can see some really creative stuff.

I imagine a lot of game design students will also love this. I could easily see building final projects on this platform.

[sprinterboy]

Gamers are staring to understand the bigger picture now also. Feedback and interest has all been positive since the beta.
All good points you make btw and definitely agree with team based dreams being some of the best creations out there.
Being solo would take years to make a proper game (a good one) but team based is a game changer. I've been amazed @ what I've played so far in dreams and it's easy to turn 1hr into 8hrs of gameplay and lose track of time lol.

[rainslacker]

I'm curious if they have, or will have a way for collaborative efforts to do things in a group through the engine. Keeping the saved assets on the cloud so they can all access them as needed, without extra effort to export and import through other means.

[ps5fanboy]

scary how good a p5 dreams could be.. scary exciting!!

[Imalwaysright]

It already is extremely exciting. Being able to create something like this is impressive. This could very well be one of the most important games ever made.

[sprinterboy]

It's gonna be a game changer, especially team based creations.
Gamers are finally understanding dreams now and the bigger picture.

[Veneno]

I'm now realizing why Dreams has been so long in the making. It seems Media Molecule is striving to provide as much creative tools as possible for us to make designs as out there as this shooter. Go Media Molecule!

[rainslacker]

What's more remarkable is they're making it accessible. Quite a few development tools all in one $60 package, and they're all impressive and work well together. The fact that it's not hard to understand how to use, or put all the pieces together, from what I hear, makes it something that is really going to make this big.

[mark_parch]

must admit that's pretty impressive

[Neonridr]

Wow, this game is going to be huge.

[S2Killinit]

Wow 😲

[spicelicka]

I really wanna see this in action though!!

[Abnor_Mal]

Watch when this game comes out. Competition will come out with something similar. Sony should make this game multiplatform after a year or so, that way everyone gets to experience Dreams and Sony gets more money, similar to Minecraft. Unless MS are planning to resurrect Project Spark:The Rebirth.
Hoping someone in Dreams makes a Playstation Battle Royale game like PS3 game. I'm sure there will be plenty of platformers and walking sims.

[Goldby]

they would make more money in the end keeping it on playstation. it'll force a sell of the console if someone really wants to play it, as well as PS+ and more games purchased thru sony

[crazyCoconuts]

I think they should keep the creation part of the app as exclusive to PS and make the creations portable with maybe some kind of licencing fee similar to game engines like Unity and Unreal. I think that's best of both worlds. If they really want to they could refuse to support certain consoles that are competitors, but I think they should open it up.

[Abnor_Mal]

That's basically what I was thinking, like Minecraft PS4 players get the base game but since the IP is now owned by MS they're keeping many of the add on packs for their console only, which is cool. I was not suggesting that NS and XB gamers be allowed to make and share created content amongst themselves, but how you've stated is a good idea. I recieved many disagrees, but I do think that a game/creation tool would be good to share with others in some capacity. Besides this could be something that could do well cross platform sharing some of the best creations. The gaming universe is trying to merge and do away with exclusives and everyone being able to play together, this could be Sonys way to get ahead of media speculation that they are against cross platform. Play. Create. Cross Share.

[Abnor_Mal]

Lol you guys are brutal, like nope, nope, nope, phuk outta here with that bullspit. LMAO :)

[rainslacker]

I could see them putting their creation tools on PC, because that would really draw in a lot of people, and I think it would help bolster sales of the PS as well, since a lot of people would probably want to try their games out on console.

[Abnor_Mal]

We hear about MS doing things to make games more open, more accessible, many times not even having to do with a game per se. Yet when Sony has a chance to possibly bring something new to the masses, everyone scorns the idea, but really don't give a reason as to why it wouldn't work. If Minecraft could be successful on multiple devices, then why couldn't this game do similar. As I said, they could keep the game exclusive for a time, or as you've stated put the creation tools on PC in a limited way, a demo of sorts. Many were talking about how the game could and would be monetized, but disregard the obvious money stream.

[rainslacker]

I don't really see many people being against this game. At least no one of consequence.

I'd be surprised if they made the content playable on PC, but the creation tools on the PC, with the ability to upload it to the console for testing, would be good for them in my opinion. I like using the PC for creation. But KB/Mouse support would be good as well. However, based on what i've been told though, it's not too bad to navigate around through the different tools.

[sprinterboy]

Don't compare project spark to dreams please, it's embarrassing and disrespectful to MM.

[Elda]

Dreams may just be the platform for Sony to discover new talent to develop games for their platform.

[StormSnooper]

Yeah kind of like how GT makes real world professional racers. I bet somebody will impress Sony so much they give him a job.

[thesoftware730]

how is this even possible. they are working magic over at Sony.

[kingPoS]

I couldn't hardly believe it either at first but then I heard the fan on my ps4pro kick into high gear and knew, it's real.

Gateway MT6706 2008

[Pancit_Canton]

Sony don't really need to buy any indie deveopers. They can just homegrown talents on their platform. Genius.

[traumadisaster]

Where the frig is the video? This is just screenshots of what? Wth?

[Gamist2dot0]

Gonna see if I can create some old school 2D games with this and then go 3D after.

[KickSpinFilter]

Once this game comes out, I don't think I'll be playing much of anything else anymore GONNA GET LOST IN THIS GAME/Create ENGINE.

[phoenixwing]

I already wanted dreams now i know it's better than i thought previously. The lighting is ridiculous for just being in game dev tooling.

[WilliamSheridan]

People thought people would enjoy making their own games. Nope. Select few create, most play and get bored.

[kingPoS]

Some may not immediately be interested in making sculptures or levels, but you can damn well be certain they'll think, What can I do with sound?

Gateway MT6706 2008

[rainslacker]

But everyone likes playing games. Even if you don't create, you can still play all these things.

[OffRoadKing]

People do enjoy making games, at one point there was six million LBP user levels created and that game didn't have the creation power this one does, so your comment is wrong and makes no sense.

[WilliamSheridan]

I have all 3 LBPs, and I had Project Spark. Out of 6 million user levels, I'm curious what percentage of those were more than quickly created crap. Project Spark had a lot of use created content, but maybe 5 percent was good. I don't expect much.

Basically this is a game engine, being marketed as a game. Very confusing, and usually over simplified.

[OffRoadKing]

I couldn't say, what I can tell though is we've all seen some "quickly created crap" from what is supposed to be professional studios so regardless of whats actually good in your opinion or not it doesn't take away from the fact that there are plenty of people out there that like to create. I think its a game creation tool being marketed as such and I don't think its ever been presented as anything but that.

[WelkinCole]

I just wanted another cute but insanely fun platformer to play together with my little ones but man this Dreams is getting crazier

[FanboysKiller]

You make cod look so stupid.

[gangsta_red]

“cinematic first-person shooter with momentum filled gameplay”

But is it an emotionally, single player driven experience?

[XabiDaChosenOne]

I'm gonna get this!!!

[ajax17]

I can't wait to see what will be possible with Dreams 2 on the PS5, especially if people can achieve this on the beta

[Neoprime]

I'm gonna make my own version of Killzone were it's Battlefield like, in Dreams.

[Pantz]

Screenshots of some hallways and a gun do not make a first person shooter game. There's a reason why they didn't show a video.

[OffRoadKing]

It clearly states "while this is a concept at this point" so why are you here being salty and trolling about it when they never said it was anything but a concept, oh that's right this is a Playstation exclusive so you're negative commenting as usual.

[Pantz]

It says nothing about being a just a concept in the title of the article. Lots of people will be fooled into thinking it's so easy to make full games.

[OffRoadKing]

Most people are smart enough to read the article where it says what I quoted, so next time actually read the article before you troll. Its not about how easy or hard it is to make games its about the power and tools this game has that people can take advantage of.

[Pantz]

I read it, many of the people in this very comments section did not.

[ocelot07]

I have just been amazed at some of the things I have seen from Dreams. When it was first announced I was interested but didn't know what the hell it was.

But after playing the beta and seeing some videos like the P.T and the Dead Space videos that where created in Dreams. It's just simply jaw dropping. You can now see why this game has taken 5+ years to even get to a closed beta stage. This is going to be a massive hit.

I remember a few things Mm and Sony said that things you make in Dreams (characters/weapons ect) can then be imported and sold on the likes of Unity. Is this still the case?

[brando008]

Mind blown. Day one buy for Dreams, it looks revolutionary.

[OffRoadKing]

Awesome to see the tools and the power this game offers to creative people, there are going to be some amazing things created with Dreams to be sure. Another big win for Sony with this one.

[REDGUM]

WOW, just wow. This game/developing tool (with respect) looks and sounds amazing. to scroll through those twitter/tweets and see just what average Jo Blow's (with respect) have come up with in relatively short time frames is truly remarkable. This will set a new benchmark in game development allowing newcomers onto the market with much more ease, new games, designers, developers will spring to life from this game and from what iv'e seen so far. This will push more tripple, double "A" games as well as Indy games to new heights.

Well done to the development team and Sony for not just allowing this to happen bet wanting it to happen too.

I look forward to seeing more of your/newcomers work soon.