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RDR2 and Assassin's Creed data reveals how few people complete games

GameRevolution: "RDR2 and Assassin's Creed data reveals no one completes games anymore and that's an increasingly troubling sign. Take a look at how many people are finishing major releases."

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rageholic1938d ago (Edited 1938d ago )

I haven't finished a game in a long time. It's not that I don't the game it's that as soon as I start to think about how long it's going to take me to 100% complete it I just say screw it. I just don't have the time anymore.

FalconofLucis981938d ago

you dont have to 100% a game to finish it, you can just finish the main story

RpgSama1938d ago (Edited 1938d ago )

These are not the best games to use as an example, I like to platinum my games, the last game I got the platinum for was Dragon Quest XI (116 hours), having said that, I am playing AC:Odyssey at the moment and it's daunting how big it is, they just went out of control, for someone like myself that works and do other things beside gaming, going back to AC:O feels like work, everything is so far apart that it takes the fun out of getting everything and it's the same thing with rdr2 at least for me

NecrumOddBoy1938d ago

I have the platinum trophy in Horizon, God of War, Detroit, Spiderman, and a whole bunch of other games that are lengthy open world experiences. Red Dead is a 10 out of 10 throughout 90% of its content, but the pacing and the way they have the controls setup are very archaic and sometimes it just gets overwhelming to play. The world is beautiful and everything about the game is really nice but with a family and responsibilities, it's really hard for me to sit down and take the amount of time required to complete a mission or even a task in this game. Something as simple as going fishing takes over an hour to do so. It takes 30 minutes sometimes just a ride from one location to the next and that's not even including cutscenes and gameplay when you get there. The level of realism in terms of that you don't quickly do things and everything is methodical creates a great environment but realistically it's hard for me to make the time because I know once I turn the game on I'm going to have to commit at least 2 hours minimum to get anything completed and with the amount of distractions and side quest, it just feels like the game never stops. I feel like there isn't a point that I get to that lets me want to take a break it feels like I always have to crawl up a NeverEnding Mountain

RpgSama1938d ago

@NecrumOddBoy

100% agree with you, I also have the platinum in God Of War and Horizon, but these 2 games (AC:O and RDR2) feel overwhelmingly big, there is so much randomness distracting from simple game tasks that after I play a few hours it makes me feel like no progress was done, they are great games but too unfocused

Edito1937d ago

Spot on, for example i'm not a trophy hunter I never got a platinum trophy I play for the story and once the story finishes i'm moving on that why I try to do the side quests before moving deep into the main story.

dumahim1937d ago

@RpgSama

Yeah, Odyssey is a bit stupid. It wouldn't be so bad if they filled it with interesting quests, but so many of them are just two people talking back and forth for a couple minutes. At least on Origins, there was quite a few where there was something happening, like interesting camera angles, or characters walking in or out of the scene, or walking and talking.

Then the map is so damn big and there's big parts of it not being used other than to have some worthless camp or collectible placed there.

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LegoIsAwesome1938d ago

Isn't much better to know of how many people, after finishing the game, wait and comes back to play and finish the DLC or Expansion?

Newmanator1938d ago

I have a full time+ job, wife, baby and a dog which occupy much of my time. I don't buy games I have to remember where I left off anymore. It saddens me thinking I may never have the time again for another Elder Scrolls game 😓

jonivtec1937d ago

For another elder scrolls game...like me...you will find the time....but its just gonna take a year instead of a month:)

anonymousfan1937d ago (Edited 1937d ago )

I feel that way too! But jonivtec is right though just take your time and be more selective of the games you decide to play. I used to play 30-60 min of every major release in the last few years because that's the only time I had... Now I feel as though I would rather play only one or two games but take my time to complete at least the story.

rainslacker1938d ago

I'm not going to try and 100% RDR2. Got to the epilogue, and will finish that up, but the amount of grinding required to get to 100%, much less the platinum, is not worth the effort. Just too much busy work, which isn't really all that compelling.

Otherwise, if I'm enjoying a game, I will try to get the most out of it, and I probably complete more games now than I did last gen, and go for platinum trophies more often.

dekke1937d ago

i platted Origins and Odyssey ..origins was more gay :D

holdmyown831937d ago

I just don’t care enough anymore. I play for a few days or hours then move back into one of the many Multiplayer titles like ESO or D2

BeOpenMinded1937d ago

Me too, I haven't finished a game in the longest. Kingdom of hearts may be first in a while outside of battletech. Don't have the answer as to why but not surprised I'm the only one... There's always the next best thing

Ceaser98573611937d ago

I finish up a game always. Unless I am bored to death like Mafia 3.. I usually go for Plat.. Got the platinum for almost all AC games.. and 3 more trophies left to plat Red dead 2

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Dirtnapstor1938d ago

While I understand where this discussion is coming from, I believe the bulk of gamers do not have the time to sit to full completion within a month or two from release.
Too many good releases to dwell on at one time, creating the dreaded backlog. It becomes multitask gaming. Eventually a game will get beaten. And you have to take into account jobs, family, and responsibilities outside of this hobby.
I really don’t see this as a problem and devs shouldn’t fret about it.

LOLcheeseORZ1938d ago

I know right, I don't understand how this is a problem If you beat a game ok cool, but if not then that's okay too. I have a huge backlog of games myself but I'm not fretting about it. I'm just enjoying each game 1 at a time and when I beat it I move on to the next game.

jjb19811938d ago

Well said. I have so many ps3 games in my backlog, a ton more in both Xbox one and PS4. I will never finish my steam library because that's just impossible. I beat games every now and then but mainly over a period of years. The only game I've sat down and played through in a few weeks was Spider-Man and before that was The Last of Us on PS3. It's not that I don't want to finish them it's just that there's always another game ready for me to start. I own every Assassins creed and the only one I am able to almost finish is Origins. Being an older gamer now means I have to choose my game time wisely when I do have it so I feel like I have to make it count. Ah, The good ol' days of staying up all night playing Ocarina of Time...

traumadisaster1937d ago (Edited 1937d ago )

I match your description of a gamer, but I think we could get more enjoyment if we explored the possibility of something different, I just don't know how to enjoy the full story, see the cool set pieces and cut scenes without a long game.

I thought episodic game chapters might work but our gaming culture seems to feel cheated if we don't have a huge game. I think I've become more game collector rather than player player.

If The Last of Us was sold in 4 chapters for $15 I guess that would work. But then devs would often only get the first chapter buy, of say Assassin's Creed, cause that's all I get to on most of my 1000 games.

So actually devs make the engine and then need $60 so they might as well add hours and never give us a chapters and risk missing out on the rest of the 60. It would not be efficient for devs to create a new game, say Anthem and only offer chapters for $15.

In the end my game is full of fluff I don't really want. Maybe devs offer streamlined version in the options, where you chose quick story mode, a $60 with no fluff but can be finished in 6 hours. Then if you want to go back and do side missions at anytime you can.

CptDville1938d ago

This, specially if you consider current gen games size (specially those 2).

Thunder_G0d_Bane1937d ago

Couldn't have said it better. Exactly this, I enjoy so many games but have so little time to complete em. Only a few I complete.

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sprinterboy1938d ago

43% of gamers haven't completed chapter 3 in Rdr2. Just proves how little gamers liked the incredible slow pacing.

mandingo1938d ago

Yea it’s slow. Part of the reason I haven’t played more and plus I dont have that much time. That’s not to say I won’t complete it eventually because I will but you can’t come out with this stat for red dead for at least a year after release to be fair

sprinterboy1938d ago

Agree somewhat, but I doubt it'll ever be over 65% ish

Concertoine1938d ago (Edited 1938d ago )

It always takes me a year or two to beat rockstar games. Im surprised at ppl saying the pacing in RDR2 is slow, because to me all their games are pretty slow. Drive/ride to the icon, cutscene, drive and talk to a waypoint, cutscene, gameplay, cutscene. Mission done, drive to a new icon. I always get distracted in R* games just goofing around.

I actually like RDR2 more than their other games for the filmic quality and the more satisfying gun play. I’ll probably beat it faster than it took me to beat GTA 4 & 5.

InTheZoneAC1938d ago (Edited 1938d ago )

I'm on chapter 2 in rdr2 I believe, haven't played since the first week but I spent a lot of time with wandering and side stuff. I will go back, and it's nothing to do with pacing in game. I'm playing other shorter games, either from backlog or new releases, completing those and going to the next.

spicelicka1938d ago (Edited 1938d ago )

I don't believe it's slow pacing, there are over 100 missions in the damn game, and that's excluding side missions! At some point you just have to take a break because the game keeps going and going. It's actually what makes the game amazing at the same time because there is so much content. They could have stopped at the last chapter and sold the epilogue as DLC like most games do. You can put it away and play the epilogue months later. I would have trouble completing even my most beloved game if it has over 100 main story missions.

The game is definitely slow, but that's part of the charm imo. It's different from GTA, and there are plenty of slow games around. It's not a bad thing it's just part of the game, you can't criticize the game for incorporating the simulation of old western life as part of the experience.

gamer91938d ago

I agree. From the very slow start in the snowy mountains, to the lack of fast travel.. even the animation in town forcing you to walk. And I don’t want to manually travel back and forth the same routes over and over and over. Horse riding simulator. I quit after about 2 weeks, same with a couple of my friends, and I won’t be returning. A big disappointment

sprinterboy1938d ago

Been a month since I've played it, keep saying I'll complete it but so far I have urge to go bk especially now I'm playing res2 and soon to be playing dmc and metro

WhiteHawk1938d ago

Doesn’t have fast travel? It has three different forms of fast travel, get some patience, are you the kid in the back seat constantly shouting “Are we there yet?”

rainslacker1938d ago (Edited 1938d ago )

@Whitehawk

The fast travel in this game is completely idiotic. At the very least, you should be able to fast travel back to your camp, which is never an option anywhere. You can't fast travel from the wilderness....like if you set up a camp. You have to spend money to fast travel from a city. You lose carcasses or large stowed items(which you can only carry one), if you use the available methods of fast travel, and can only retrieve the legendary stuff.

None of this would be all that bad if you didn't have to ride all the way across the map for some of the stuff you have to hunt to get some of the items. But if you need a perfect proghorn carcass for crafting, you can get them in west Elizabeth or south of Stawberry, and if you happen to have your camp outside St. Denis or north of that hillbilly town, you have to haul ass across the whole map to get it there before it starts to rot, avoiding any distractions. Often going through two mountain ranges you can't just cut across instead of taking the roads it wants you to take with cinematic mode. Or if you happen across a legendary fish or snag one of the larger pristine pelts while doing other stuff, you have to stop doing that stuff to go drop it off, which means hauling yourself to the nearest town or camp.

This game has a ton of stuff to do in it. Lots of content. But you have to really force yourself to be focused on a task if you want to get anything done. If you can't do that, then you're going to be constantly distracted, and could easily spend 30-40 hours in one chapter, and not even progress the story even once.

So, it's not a matter of "Are we there yet", it's a matter of, "Crap, I am halfway to my destination, which is a 5-10 minute ride from the quickest fast travel spot, and I now have to go back to drop off the keys at home".

I'm a pretty patiant person, but the collection/crafting aspects of this game are completely jacked up, and when coupled with the completely idiotic decisions made for fast travel in what is probably the largest open world game ever made, it only frustrates the player.

EazyC1938d ago

Actually, if trophies are anything to go by, gamers are by and large atrocious when it comes to progression. Just look at the % who got the God of War story trophies.

Dark_Knightmare21937d ago

Didn’t gow have like over 50 percent beat the story which is actually amazing

rainslacker1938d ago

I spent three weeks, playing almost every day, and was still in chapter three. That's where things really open up and you have a lot of extra stuff to do. Plus, Chapter three has the best placed camp to offload your crafting materials for most of the game, otherwise, it's always on one side of the map or the other. Chapter 4 is lengthy, and really drawn out, Chp 5 is very short, and chapter 6 is about the right length, and for that chapter, they had more riding during the narration be abridged to a kind of fast travel, so it was more tolerable.

The only way it would prove that gamers disliked the slow pacing, would be if that's where everyone stopped playing, but since the stats aren't available on how many people are playing, it can't be determined. Plus, 57% did get past Chapter 3, so the majority is still in favor of at least tolerating the pacing.

And I have no idea why I'm trying to "defend" this game, because I think it had incredibly slow pacing. For my part, I tended to not do the story missions unless I needed to to advance the side missions, because I found the story missions rather boring and pretty much repetitive.

Profchaos1938d ago

Only 17% of players completed gta v and even worse only 22% got to the paleto bay bank job at the half way point so your statement holds no water

Palitera1938d ago (Edited 1938d ago )

Well, to some people, there is no reason to rush. Finishing act 3 means playing dozens of hours if you're enjoying exploring etc.

I have probably a hundred hours into the game and am not even halfway the full story. So... This also means the game is freaking awesome and people might have no haste to finish "and get rid of it".

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william_cade1938d ago

Movies are 1 second of time compared to games. Movies are static and passive experiences compared to games. Games and movies are both forms of entertainment, yes, but they take up different spaces.

logotero1938d ago

That is why videogames should focus on gameplay, but no, they want "cinematic feels", "camera angles" and "great stories".

ClayRules20121938d ago

I take it your not a fan of the cinematic approach in video games?

CptDville1938d ago

That is not the problem, it is just your personal taste.

logotero1938d ago (Edited 1938d ago )

Is not taste, it's in the name.
video-game

video: put a set of pictures together to make movement with electronic/digital signals
game: what human beings have made for having fun for milleniums.

Closer are we to the time in which videogame as a term couldn't handle the same approach.

You develop gameplay by designing new ways of having fun, develop skill and set a competitive platform.

You develop storytelling by doing those kind of videogames.

Nor of them are wrong, but they are 2 different approaches.

rainslacker1938d ago (Edited 1938d ago )

Near the end of the game, and in the epilogue, there are a few really awesome cinematic moments, and they aren't overly long, but really give you some nice feels, or a cool throwback to the first RDR2 in the case of the epilogue.

However, I agree, the game could have maybe worked a bit more on game play. Lots of game design elements, but the game play is actually pretty casual, and not that deep except in all the crap you have to keep track of, which IMO, is too much, because it takes the enjoyment of the game play away.

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Bane351938d ago

Im not one off them because i always finish a game im really into rdr 2 only took me a few weeks to finish to the game

Gamingsince19811938d ago

It took me 4 days, I got most of the trophies except for the online which I have no interest in touching .

Bane351937d ago

Yeah i try a little bit rdr 2 online it was ok but im like you its not my thing

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PlayStation Plus Game Catalog for May: RDR2, Deceive Inc., Crime Boss: Rockay City and more

All titles release May 21.

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PlayStation Plus Extra and Premium | Game Catalog

- Red Dead Redemption 2 | PS4
- Deceive Inc. | PS5
- The Sims 4 City Living | PS4
- Crime Boss: Rockay City | PS5
- The Settlers: New Allies | PS4
- Stranded: Alien Dawn | PS4, PS5
- Cat Quest | PS4
- Cat Quest II | PS4
- The LEGO Movie 2 Videogame | PS4
- Watch Dogs* | PS4

PlayStation Premium | Classics

- 2Xtreme | PS4, PS5
- G-Police | PS4, PS5
- Worms Pinball | PS4, PS5

shinoff21836d ago

They gotta do better on the premium side for sure. Where are any of those jrpgs from the ps1 Era. Come on Sony.

jznrpg6d ago

Most of the Sony JRPGS have been released. Square has a ton that could be ported over but they would need Squares involvement.

VenomUK6d ago

Crime Boss! I know it hasn't reviewed well but I love the eighties action movie vibe of the trailer but didn't want to risk any money on it so this is a great way for me to play it.

Exvalos5d ago

I don't know why Sony is not getting some of the legendary ps1 games from square like parasite eve, xenogears, brave fencer musashi

outsider16246d ago

Looking at this list, i gotta ask what is even the point of premium?

raWfodog6d ago

I'm good with just my PS+ Essential

GamerRN6d ago

I have premium, and I'm also wondering why I have it

Xeofate6d ago (Edited 6d ago )

I think there are a ton of good games on Premium, and don't sleep on the movie collection if you like 90's and 2000's movies, the selection is stacked with classics and gets updated pretty regularly.

Abnor_Mal6d ago

G-Police is a game I have fond memories of and will definitely download to replay. I remember controlling your helicopter was a bit difficult and would make my hand cramp having to press all the shoulder buttons to go up and down and I think yaw left and right.

The next game they should add to Classics is Colony Wars, and I wouldn’t mind replaying Nightmare Creatures. I’d also like to replay Black, PSI Ope: The Mindgate Conspiracy.

Redgrave6d ago

Nightmare Creatures, Deathtrap Dungeon, Urban Chaos

TheColbertinator5d ago

Colony Wars, G-Police, Black and PsiOps were all amazing games. Such creative games from a golden age.

DefenderOfDoom25d ago

I would love to play Black again on a higher difficult setting . Black was so fun to play!

MrBaskerville6d ago

G-Police is nice. But might be among the hardest games I've ever played.

Bathyj6d ago

G Police.
I almost want to upgrade for that.

But let's face it, there's no way the game has held up.

MrBaskerville5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

You can just buy it, you don't need premium.

And it's still good, but there's a couple of early missions that are extremely tough. But they don't really make games like this anymore.

DarXyde5d ago

2Xtreme was the first game I ever bought for PS Plus (I still have the PS1 version somewhere).

Game is awful, but it's stupid fun. Like Thrasher: Skate and Destroy.

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hiroyukisanada6d ago

Man.... Premium has been a massive letdown but this is the only month they don't have a single thing for me. Oh well. I've gotten my money's worth so far and still need to finish up Rebirth and Rise of the Ronin then I'll hop back in to Relink and Helldivers after that.

hiroyukisanada5d ago

I should clarify that I was referring to the Classics catalog, in particular. Only 1 PS1 game I've loved is the Legend of Dragoon and the Tekken/Soul Caliburs on PSP

Petebloodyonion6d ago

RDR2 is a win for Sony and Crime boss is a good fit to help promote a struggling game
but we're far from what was removed this month (including Horizon Zero Dawn)
https://www.pushsquare.com/...

crazyCoconuts6d ago

Yeah I was hoping burning shores would have been added now that it's a year old vs. the base game being removed.
I wouldn't be surprised if both MS and PS continue to either walk back the quality of games in the sub services or increase the price, since it's now clearer to them how cannibalistic these services are

isarai6d ago

The game deserves to struggle, it's garbage

Petebloodyonion5d ago

Indeed it's bad but it does offer incredible Hollywood star power so for free it might draw a crowd while giving a boost to this game.
Just remember Fallout 76 was the biggest turd and yet there are now tons of ppl playing it.

shinoff21835d ago

When I seen video on this game I thought Holy sht this is gonna be awesome. Then the footage continued and I seen what type of game it was going for. Was so disappointed. Would've loved a gta style game not from Rockstar,like we had back in the day some studios trying. I'm all about being different but a little gta clone idea been cool with.

Yui_Suzumiya5d ago (Edited 5d ago )

To be fair, I'd play Crime Boss before GTA any day. I mean I have no interest in either but just for the celebs I'd pick Crime Boss, lol

JL29306d ago

How is a 6 year old game a win for anything? Anyone who cares has already played it.

Petebloodyonion5d ago

Simply because ppl do play it!
As much as I don't like it GTA V always managed a boost of ppl when it was offered on Game Pass or PS+.
NOW RDR 2 was never offered on a subscription service.
Again the point isn't about will hardcore gamers play the game because we already played it. it's about having a huge star power game never offered on service that will make casual ppl subscribe to it.

MrBaskerville5d ago

You are aware that new people are born every day? All the 5 year olds probably didn't play it when it released.

But I guess you played every game ever released, which is quite impressive.

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seanpitt235d ago

A 6 years old game is a win? Yes it's a masterpiece but I am sure most of hardcore gamers have already played it! I doubt it would be shifting ps plus extra subs if there was a native ps5 version or 60fps option then maybe

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6 Games That Genuinely Deserve A Current-Gen Upgrade

Games such as Mad Max, Red Dead Redemption 2, and Batman: Arkham Knight desperately deserve a modern-day revisit.

thorstein34d ago

Mad Max is underrated. Such a fun game.

Cacabunga33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

RDR2 still looks astounding on PS4 Pro. i cannot imagine how it could look with a next gen upgrade.

JonTheGod33d ago (Edited 33d ago )

Probably not very different.

No idea why this article is highlighting recent beautiful graphically-advanced games and saying they need current gen makeovers. They already look better than most new releases; just compare Arkham Knight and Suicide Squad!

exputers33d ago

I see what you did there.

Yi-Long33d ago

It's obviously never gonna happen since Sony killed the game and studio, but Driveclub. Even in its current state, 10 years after release, it still puts many competitors to shame ...

Demetrius32d ago

I'm not into racing games but yeah I even looked at gameplay of that sometimes

redrum065d ago

It's a shame they cancelled the game. Definitely the best racing game I've ever played on Playstation. Just got GT7, but it feels so slow and less arcade-y, which is to be expected of a sim racer of course, that I just enjoy it less.
Driveclub also graphically looked insanely good for its time. I wonder what a Driveclub 2 would look like for the PS5.

Demetrius32d ago

Mad max ikr! Far cry primal, it amuses me how ubisoft just left ac unity hanging, sadly most of the good staff left from rocksteady while being forced to make that abomination smh