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How Nintendo must bolster its classic game lineup on Nintendo Switch

A few Nintendo classics are available with Nintendo Switch Online, but this lineup -- and the strategy underlying it -- can be greatly improved.

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prankster1011951d ago (Edited 1951d ago )

Remember that one time when Nintendo announced that they had shifted the bulk of their development resources over to the Switch... When the Wii U was still en vogue?

Four years later, all that hard work is finally paying off. Witness the ample amount of bare-bones remasters and re-releases. Including the "classic" 6 year old port of Super Mario Bros U - which is retailing for the same price as a AAA game.

EddieNX 1951d ago

Someone's butthurt over the fact that the Switch is brilliant and a huge success.

staticall1950d ago

Serious question - are you getting paid for defending and praising Switch so much or do you own Nintendo stocks? Because i see you under every Nintendo or Switch-related post. To you, all Nintendo games and/or decisions are "the best":
- "Mario kart 8 deluxe is by far the best";
- "(Super Smash Bros)'s by far the best fighting game ever";
- "(New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe) is brilliant";
- "Pokémon Let's go, in many ways, is better than the main games";
- "Regardless of your opinion of Smash brothers , it's the best fighting game there is";
- "Youre speaking like BOTW isn't one of the highest rated games ever and isn't absolutely incredible which it is.";
- "I just think this minor issue of Nintendos online is just another reason for all the haters to jump on the Nintendo hate bandwagon." and "So Ita a problem to sign in once a week? There's millions of hotspots all over the world even if youre on the go. I don't see this as a problem at all really." [it's how NES games on Switch are available only for 7 days without revalidating through Internet];
- "I personally adore Skyward sword. The boss battles are insane. Best ever in the series";
- "So many people completely missed the point with BOTW. Fortunately though most gamers can appreciate the brilliance.";

- "It was about the same amount. At least the WiiU had some genuinely amazing games, the Vita had a handful of mediocre games.";
- "The SWITCH is capable of outperforming ANY ps3 or 360 games in every aspect";
- "The popularity of Nintendos IP will ensure they remain the worlds largest publisher of games during this streaming era";
- "Switch is the new emperor of the land of the land of the rising sun".

I hope you do understand that Switch is a piece of plastic that can't love you back and Nintendo doesn't even know you exist.

P. S.: Not a personal attack.
P. P. S.: I do enjoy my PS4, but i'm not saying every exclusive there is a masterpiece. Didn't like Spiderman that much (really good game, just got it later and heard too much praise before playing) and Knack was meh.

Ricegum1950d ago

Staticall

It is mad there are people like this, that refuse to acknowledge anything negative about their preferred console. I tend to be more or a PS4 guy, but I understand there are always issues that Sony need to amend. It's like that King Noctis user on this site, he has to defend Microsoft if it were his last breath.

I love my Switch too, but there are some serious problems with it for me, mainly relating to the online side of things. Don't give huge corporations a free pass.

gangsta_red1950d ago

"Because i see you under every Nintendo or Switch-related post."

Maybe because he's a Switch fan. That seems to be the most logical conclusion.

Here's another serious question if he's in every Switch article, why is it he has to defend the Switch in every one of those?

It's so funny that a person is now getting ridiculed for liking games and a system and being asked if they're paid for by that company.

I wonder if the same could be said for others who constantly attack and shit on a console for these actual fans to constantly feel the need to defend it.

Attacking a console seems to not have any employment benefit potential on this site for some reason.

"P. P. S.: I do enjoy my PS4, but i'm not saying every exclusive there is a masterpiece."

I don't think Eddie has either, or are you required to say something bad about the system you prefer playing games on?

I mean this is a piece of plastic, it'll do the same thing regardless whether you talk bad about it or not on N4G.

EddieNX 1950d ago (Edited 1950d ago )

Read gangsta reds comment.
My real life friends mostly don't share the same enthusiasm for Nintendo and games as I do so I come to Thai site to discuss with equally enthusiastic people about our hobby.

It's the trolls that are the problem here not me and you won't be able to convince me otherwise so go away 😊

It's also incredibly sad that you've gone through pages of my comment history in some poor atempt to try and annoy me? Don't know own what you're trying to achieve, but either join the debate or don't comment at all.

EddieNX 1950d ago (Edited 1950d ago )

@Staticall you're undermining most people on this site bud. I am a massive Nintendo fan, self confessed.
And most of those quotes are simply true.

People are here to debate and discuss about games, why are you surprised???

The Switch is awesome in my humble opinion and has some of the very best games there is on it.

staticall1950d ago

@gangsta_red

» "Here's another serious question if he's in every Switch article, why is it he has to defend the Switch in every one of those?"
Why are you asking me? My guess was, he's on a payroll, that's why i asked and gave some (in my opinion) proof.

» "It's so funny that a person is now getting ridiculed for liking games and a system and being asked if they're paid for by that company."
It was a serious question, i wasn't trying to ridicule @EddieNX. If it sounded like that, that wasn't my intention.

» "I wonder if the same could be said for others who constantly attack and shit on a console for these actual fans to constantly feel the need to defend it."
It absolutely can! But in my opinion, if someone's saying "{X} is good/bad because {A}, {B}, {C}", i feel like it's fine, it's an opinion with something to back it up. But if someone is saying "{X} is good/bad" without any arguments, that's bad.

For example, i, personally, don't like Breath of the Wild. I played it for 3-4 hours and i do understand that might not be enough for the full analysis. But i felt like game was discouraging me from exploring the world and i do like to explore (world was looking good, just too empty). I got that feeling because i was exploring the game and found a flame blade (on top of stomp in the middle of some "lake") and was like "That's cool!". But after killing like 5 enemies, it just shattered. Why should i go out of my way, trying to find something interesting, if it just shatters after few uses?

And about "feel the need to defend" - look at the original comment in this post. Everything said by @prankster101 was true, yet @EddieNX just says he's butthurt. Kind of useless defence adds nothing to the conversation, in my opinion.

» "I don't think Eddie has either, or are you required to say something bad about the system you prefer playing games on?"
No, absolutely not. I like PC (Steam, to be specific) and Sony (PS3 and PS4), but you don't see me defending them on every occasion, especially when they screw up (like Valve with Artifact or Sony with Playstation Classic).
Nintendo has screw ups as well, but i think, if people will don't stop defending Nintendo, it wouldn't fix the issues (like with online, for instance).

» "I mean this is a piece of plastic, it'll do the same thing regardless whether you talk bad about it or not on N4G."
I wholeheartedly agree!

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@EddieNX

» "you're undermining most people on this site bud"
How so? Who am i "undermining"?

» "People are here to debate and discuss about games, why are you surprised???"
You also "Someone's butthurt over the fact that the Switch is brilliant and a huge success." - i don't see a debate, do you?

» "It's also incredibly sad that you've gone through pages of my comment history in some poor atempt to try and annoy me?"
Is reading your own comments annoy you? It was a small slice of your comment history, to give my original message some context. And so people wouldn't think i'm just imagining stuff.

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Benjaminkno1950d ago (Edited 1950d ago )

Technically it’s 2 games in one with some extras. Most people didn’t have a WiiU so ports of old games are a smart move because people didn’t play games that were worth playing.

I’m not going to bitch about the price of a game I don’t really want. Or go to a PlayStation classic article and complain about paying $100 for a poorly executed and mediocre PS1 lineup I don’t really care about.

I suppose maybe I would if I was a troll.

Kainbrightside1950d ago

These guys should be a little more patient. Wait for the next direct. Trust me.

King_Noctis1950d ago

Do you realize that the Switch currently have more upcoming exclusives than both MS and Sony combined? Let that sink in for a moment.

Lime1231949d ago

1. Left Alive
2. Judgment
3. MediEvil
4. TLOU Part II
5. Ghost of Tsushima
6. Death Stranding
7. Days Gone
8. Dreams
9. MLB The Show
10. Concrete Genie
11. Final Fantasy VII Remake
12. Shenmue III
13. Nioh 2
14. Babylon's Fall


Switch?

King_Noctis1949d ago

Just to list the most well known ones:

1. Core Pokemon
2. Luigi’s Mansion
3. Animal Crossing
4. Bayonetta 3
5. SMTV
6. Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3
7. Town
8. Daemon X Machima
9. Fire Emblem 3 House
10. Yoshi Crafted World
11. Travis Strike Back
12. The Snack World: Trejarers Gold
13. Grandia I + II HD Remaster
14. Yo-kai Watch 4

And I could have sworn Shenue III, Left Alive, and Babylon's Fall will also be on PC. Or are console exclusive games finally be considered as exclusives now on N4G?

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FallenAngel19841951d ago

Just make Virtual Console a thing on Switch already

Tross1950d ago

^This. One of the great things about the Wii, Wii U and 3DS is access to so many retro titles from a variety of systems including but not limited to those by Nintendo. Imagine a more complete VC that includes a variety of console and handheld titles from the past. I am, and it saddens me that it's a pipe dream.

PhoenixUp1951d ago

I’m tired of Nintendo pricing their released games at full price, especially in the face of other rereleased games that get built from the ground up yet are still budget priced.

Benjaminkno1950d ago

It is unfortunate that Nintendo puts more effort into stopping ROM sites rather than making their products more available.

bigmalky1950d ago

There will be no Virtual Console while Classic Minis are in production. From a marketing point of view, it would be a dumb move to offer the games on Switch while the Minis are selling so well.

I'm just hoping that they get past the N64 mini and start putting games up for Switch, but who can tell but Nintendo?

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Square Enix Is Going Multiplatform; The Layoffs & Its Past Don't Inspire Confidence

After its latest games didn't meet sales targets, Square Enix is going multiplatform but the company's track record isn't convincing.

Scissorman4h ago

Square Enix been multiplatform for decades, a few exclusively-deals doesn't make them any less multiplatform.

fr0sty4h ago

Nor is selling their games on a console with only 25 million install base going to bring their sales to where they hope they will be... Unless they somehow manage to dumb down FF7 trilogy to work on switch, they aren't going to have much luck. They already released it on PC, after all.

SegaSaturn6694h ago

It kind of does, giving preference to a certain platform by timed exclusivity. Console ports generally feel superior. Legend of mana PC port extremely broken

neutralgamer19923h ago

Sega

It doesn’t when square themselves didn’t want to fund the development of remake. It’s only after the success of the 1st they realized their mistake but now contract is signed. If it wasn’t for Sony there would be no FF7 remakes. Same goes for silent hill 2 with Konami. They don’t want to fund AAA budget. Companies like PlayStation and Nintendo get blamed when in reality they are saving some of these franchises

Remember sega didn’t want to fund bayonetta and epic games didn’t want to fund another gears of war. It’s easy to blame console makers but they are the ones taking the risk and paying huge upfront costs without seeing the final product. FF7 remake trilogy won’t be coming to Xbox now or in the future. PlayStation and PC is what square signed up for. Sony paid them more than they would make from Xbox sales.

ravens523h ago

I just wonder when everyone is going to demand that the Square Enix exclusives with Nintendo come to PS and Xbox. Or it's just the PS exclusives that matter lol

phoenixwing3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

I'd love for the nintendo exclusives to come to pc or ps5. They'd actually be playable then.

neutralgamer19923h ago

Raven

Exactly and that’s where square enix does more exclusive than any other platform. Gaming is square has always been very unrealistic with their sales expectations. Remember when tomb raider reboot sold 7.5 million and square said it wasn’t enough. They need to spend less on development and have more realistic expectations from sales.

And those thinking games being not on Xbox makes a difference don’t understand we have a decade plus of data showing square enix games having less than 20% of their multiplatform sales on Xbox (final fantasy series) and Nintendo consoles aren’t strong enough to run any current games. Nintendo switch should be as strong as Xbox one x atleast but we all know that’s most likely won’t happen

RoadRacer2h ago

@raven

thing is, as neutral said in their comm, the switch isn't strong enough to run flagship SE games
i think what SE does is, it makes unique games for switch only so that it has something for that console too. Thats where all the "underlined sans" rpgs go to mostly

maybe things will change when Swtich 2 drops cuz that's gonna be as strong as ps4 afaik from the rumors flying around

TheGamingHounds3h ago

@Scissorman

Your point is valid enough but when the icon of this company is limited to one console in timed-exclusivity, it means the company has crossed the line. By some degree at least

All things aside, Square itself stated "aggressive multiplatform strategies" so we all know what it's talking about

Scissorman57m ago(Edited 57m ago)

Then the headline should read "Square To Drop Exclusively Deals in Pursuit of A Sweeping Multiplatform Strategy". I don't recall this argument when Square Enix released Bravely Default, Octopath Traveler, and Triangle Strategy on one platform. And even if FF is the icon, not all of its titles have gone to one platform. We're talking about three games, one of which is already on PC. Did Square suddenly go 'multiplatform' after it released subsequent Tomb Raider sequels on more than just the Xbox? It's just a silly way of putting it.

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TheGamingHounds3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

SE needs to go all in optimization. Broken PC ports won't help its case, especially with big releases like mainline Final Fantasy

Asterphoenix3h ago

It's actually simple. What doesn't inspire confidence is Square allocating their budgets on the wrong projects such as Forspoken, Avengers, Babylons Fall and Foamstars.

Square has always been multiplatform since PS3/360 days which 80 % of their games are. People kick up a fuss over PS exclusivity but not Nintendo which has more exclusive projects console exclusive from Square.

FF16 has done ok but not enough to fix the blunders that the past mistakes Square has made with some of their projects. FF7 Rebirth is unclear we'll see a PC release for sure so it's hard to say so far not as good as they would of liked.

Then again unrealistic expectations. If it weren't for Sony these games would at least had another 2 years development time. So some people need to be realistic in that regard.

Scissorman51m ago(Edited 49m ago)

It's the blunders that set those expectations so high. If you remove those from the equation, I bet the sales numbers would be more than stellar. Square believes it's okay to release a pile of risky, middling, garbage because the big boys will ultimately subsidize the cost. Don't worry if Forspoken sells poorly, FF16 will surely sell 10 million copies to balance that right out. Oh wait, it only sold like 4 million. Well that's a disaster. Meanwhile games that sell 2 million units with comparable budgets are deemed successful.

RoadRacer2h ago

Square Enix just really need to revise its expectations. Maybe consider a change in strategy on dev end as well. Multiplat will help for sure but only good games that are marketed well will sell