Top ten games of 2018

Tom Chick - "First the usual disclaimer. Here are the the notable games I didn’t get to play: Vermintide 2, Return of the Obra Dinn, Pathfinder: Kingmaker, Forza 4, God of War: Dad Edition, Battlefield V, Pillars of Eternity II, Sea of Thieves, Dragon Quest XI, Bard’s Tale IV, The Long Dark, and whatever Yakuza game most recently came out. There are a couple of games that might have been contenders if I’d spent more time with them. I really liked what I saw of Subnautica and Battletech, but for various reasons didn’t explore them as much as I would have liked.

Which is why I’ve enlisted the help of Nick Diamon and Jason McMaster for this year’s list."

[NecrumOddBoy]

GOW *
Detroit *
Spiderman *
Celeste *
RDR2
Astrobot
Moss*
Monster Hunter World
Octopath Traveler
Fallout Shelter *

These are the games I played and/or platinum'd (*)

This site truly has a biased towards Sony. It's pathetic.

[Razzer]

A bias "towards" Sony or against Sony?

[NecrumOddBoy]

Against I mean. I goofed that one. LoL

[Razzer]

"Here are the the notable games I didn’t get to play: Vermintide 2, Return of the Obra Dinn, Pathfinder: Kingmaker, Forza 4, God of War: Dad Edition, Battlefield V, Pillars of Eternity II, Sea of Thieves, Dragon Quest XI, Bard’s Tale IV, The Long Dark, and whatever Yakuza game most recently came out. "

How do you make a "top ten games of 2018" without playing the top games?

Probably the most uninformed site pretending to consist of journalists on n4g in that case. Why this crap keeps getting posted here....no idea. Oh wait.....coolbeans is why. That's right.

[coolbeans]

I figured that was the whole point of making your own unique list: whittling down your 10 favorites from the potential thousands of games released this year. "...without playing the top games" is just a vacuous declaration.

-"Why this crap keeps getting posted here....no idea. Oh wait.....coolbeans is why. That's right."

You bet! It hits the site's threshold of what's allowable on here, so I see no reason for it to be casually ignored. I guess I have a hankering to circulate controversial ideas that can generate discussion. Let me just set myself up on this whipping post for that. ;)

[Razzer]

'"...without playing the top games" is just a vacuous declaration. '

If there is a vacuous declaration is in the title of the article.

"It hits the site's threshold of what's allowable on here, so I see no reason for it to be casually ignored. I guess I have a hankering to circulate controversial ideas that can generate discussion."

n4g has a threshold for what is allowable? lol....ok, you do you.

[coolbeans]

-How? That's the title template most people use when doing their end-of-year lists so that doesn't make sense.

-...yes? You've literally been on the receiving end of submission warnings in the past so this shouldn't be some kind of REVELATION. There is a process to how submissions are handled here. You're sacrificing coherence for another snarky jab. Before Qt3, Tom Chick had written featured articles for bigger gaming sites (including IGN). If Jeff Gertsmann were to make a post-GiantBomb blogging site, he'd pass that same threshold for his new site to be submitted here.

Bottom line: he's paid his dues for Qt3 be allowable on here and petulant posters can't--and shouldn't--take that away.

[Razzer]

-Most sites have played enough games to actually justify a Top 10. This site's "notable" omissions disqualifies it from a real top 10. Best case would be "best games I played". Top 10? lol....just nonsense.

-LOL. Why are you talking about my (two) mistakes in article submission procedures as if that means jack shit? You are sacrificing coherence to make a bullshit point. Clearly I was asking about article content quality, not protocols. And it was an actual question. Where are the rules listed about "paying dues" to submit on n4g?

-Bottom line: users do not have the ability to prevent anyone from submitting articles so no idea what point you think you are making.

[coolbeans]

-Woah, woah...within two sentences you've cross-connected the idea of not playing 'enough games' with not playing enough of the most notable ones. For one, he's already made several other top 10 lists (like disappointing, overlooked, etc.), along with reviews, this year which suggests at least in the 40's-50's of '18-released games played. Doesn't sound that much different from the typical reviewer at a big publication. Second, having to play x amount of popular games before getting to say "top 10" is lazy gate-keeping at best. Games are games. And if he's more interested in a plethora of 2018's strategy game offerings than several AAA titles then...so what? Further, even if he hypothetically crossed off some of those missed games (like GoW or DQXI) and sincerely kept to his original 10 I get the feeling said criticism would arbitrarily shift to having a terrible/edgy list. But that's just speculation.

And a semantic argument to boot! Just change from "top 10" to "best games [of '18] I played" and there's no complaints from you whatsoever? Jesus dude...isn't it already implied that this is his, and other two contributors', subjective list?

-Well, you did quote-respond my submission explanation with "n4g has a threshold for what is allowable?" Threshold is an expansive term and I was approaching it in respect to submission guidelines and what's allowable, not this wishy-washy 'article quality' aspect. Struck me as relevant to remind you that there are rules in place. And what is this expectation of me to delineate on quality/protocols in this context? You've thrown dirt on me from the get-go AND your retort was obviously structured as a snarky jab (w/ no expectation of changing your mind) rather than genuinely wanting an explanation. Calling that an "actual question" is either historical revisionism or you have tone-deaf way of getting to the bottom of things.

But anyways...I suppose I'll still amuse. https://n4g.com/user/blogpo... [NOTE: "paying his/her dues" will not be found within Christopher's auxiliary guideline blogs he's made. I was utilizing that phrase as shorthand]

[Razzer]

Top games are a subset of all games. There is nothing to cross-connect. Yes, one would think that a gaming site would play an expansive, wide variety of games and include the biggest releases of the year before attempting to create a list of "top ten games of 2018". That title is way too broad for the content of the article especially when the article starts with that disclaimer. In my opinion, that disclaimer invalidates the title and yes, "best games I/we played" or something similar would have been more accurate. I think I've been clear on this and there is not point in just repeating it over and over. We do not agree. Simple as that.

As far as the rest, yes my inquiry about "threshold" was a genuine question which is why I was confused when you referenced my submission warnings. Looking back, I should not have called you out in my first post and I apologize for that. The rest was not intended to be snarky, but if it came across as that then I apologize for that as well.

Edit:

This is how I should have referenced your post previously as I think it would have come across as intended:

"It hits the site's threshold of what's allowable on here, so I see no reason for it to be casually ignored."

n4g has a threshold for what is allowable?

"I guess I have a hankering to circulate controversial ideas that can generate discussion."

lol....ok, you do you.