Three Of 2018's Most Disappointing Games

Here are three high-profile titles from 2018 that illustrate different ways games can disappoint.

[Traecy]

I enjoyed FC5,RDR2 is disappointing.

[starchild]

I enjoyed FC5 and I enjoyed RDR2 even more.

[HaveSumNuts]

When I saw the Max Payne 3 like bullet damage, I was like this is GOTY

[bradfh]

Far Cry 5 and RDR2 should not be on that list, Fallout 76 they got right, Battlefield 5 and Just Cause 4 should be the other two.

[bluefox755]

@gaming Agreed. The game, like all r* games had amazing production values and a beautifully realized world, but also like other r* games, the gameplay itself was mediocre at best, annoying at worst.

[Strafe]

'the gameplay itself was mediocre at best, annoying at worst.'

God you talk so much shit. The gameplay in RDR2 has made me appreciate what Rockstar brought to the table. After RDR2 I appreciate the horse control far more when I play a game like Assassins Creed Odyssey, the way the horse controls in that game is awful compared to RDR2.

And I'd love it if someone can point me in the direction of another game that conveys being part of the classic wild wild west than RDR2? Name another game that does what RDR2 does that is better.

[ClayRules2012]

Sorry to hear you found RDR2 disappointing. I absolutely loved RDR2.
Far Cry 5 looked really good. I’m glad to hear you enjoyed it.

[rainslacker]

I liked rdr2 alright up until I accidently shot the butcher because aim and shoot are the same button when your gun is holstered. Then since I lost my legendary bear fur from it i thought I'd go get another one, but got on the wrong horse which apparently is worse the shooting the butcher, and I then went to collect some debts and was attacked by the debtor, which I punched a few times which apparently killed him, but there was a witness about 5 miles away who saw me, so I had half the county decending on me, so I just shot them all, which racked up a $200 bounty, to which i said screw this. What's the point in being allowed to be an outlaw if you have to spend so much time paying off bounties on your head.

Nothing against the technical achievements in the game, or the story so far, just some of the game play mechanics are pretty backwards.

[sprinterboy]

Still on chapter 3 after not playing rdr2 for 3 weeks, I will finish it and I do think it's a good game.
However I am also disappointed also with pacing and weapon wheen design.

[ziggurcat]

R2 to aim/shoot was one of the worst design decisions, yes, but I just got in the habit of going right into the wheel, and manually selecting the weapon to avoid accidental shootings. The question, though, is why would you need to aim your weapon at the butcher? You also are supposed to get attacked by some of the people you collect debts from - you're also supposed to chase the witnesses, and stop them from reaching the law.

I rarely had to pay off bounties because I didn't go around murdering people. Outlaws didn't tend to care whether they had a bounty on their heads... and that's the drawback of being an outlaw: having a price on your head, and constantly having to evade the bounty hunters/law. Did you honestly think the game would just allow you to run around like a jerk, and not face the consequences of those actions?

[rainslacker]

I wasn't aiming at the butcher. Gun was holstered. I went to sell some stuff to him. Instead of L2, I hit R2, and he was dead, because auto-aim. Don't care if I have the bounty but it makes the game more tedious.

Found out I can pay off my bounties by just surrendering instead of grinding, which takes all your money, because the game was getting boring being chased by people all the time. I then go to lay down my controller, and whatdya know, the R2 button pressed shooting the innkeeper in the leg. I swore an explecative which hasn't passed my mouth in a long time, and then was able to surrender. Got out of jail, passed some O'Driscall boys beating a guy, which I guess they killed, I intervened giving them a hard time, because I figured it's OK to kill them since I had before no problem, then they started punching. I punched them until they were down, never drew my weapon, all was fine. Even looted them.

For experimentation purposes, Pick up the guy on the ground to take him to the nearby doctor, not knowing he was dead, because why would they kill a debtor? Walk a few steps, and then a witness. MURDER! I was able to surrender, and spent the night in jail, because apparently murder is better than accidentally getting on a horse for a couple seconds.

Then we come to this wonderful example of REALISM!

I'm broke, but since I'm bounty free, decide to do some story progression. Galloping along the road, A guy was shoeing his horse, so I maybe I can do a good deed. Another guy was passing by, literally right next to the guy. I greeted the guy shoeing, and the horse kicked him dead. Was actually pretty funny. The other guy on his horse exclaimed, and said what poor luck the guy had, and made a comments about the horse killing the guy. So, standing there, and the guy trots off, and when he's maybe 30' away, I decide to loot the guy...because why not, he's dead, and I'm broke. Well, I start to loot and the guy moving along screams starts high tailing it to the sheriff, which was quite a ways. Not too long after, I have 4-5 red dots descending on me, had a nice bison skin, which I had to hoof it to get because I didn't have money for the coach, and it was now gone.

All this in the 2-1/2 hours I played today....making a few bucks on some hunting, losing a lot of it because of bounty hunters.

I said, "F this", and now I give up on the game. The bounty system is just stupid, and hinders the enjoyment of the game. Especially since the denizens apparently have the eyes of a hawk, and can witness you from a mile away. How such a flawed system could keep this game at the ratings it has is beyond me....and I know the devs had to know it was like this, so it's by design.

The bounty system pretty much makes this an open world game where choice is an illusion. The devs want you playing as a good guy, and they punish you for playing any other way. There is no way to defend it, and it's pathetic reviewers didn't mention it. I know GTA wasn't much better, but if the game is going to give you a choice, then allow the players to not be so hassled by the mechanics. Hell, I'm trying to play the good guy, and it's nearly impossible....even if I'm being careful about the buttons I press.

Maybe I'm missing something, maybe some people like this kind of thing, I dunno. But it seems more frustrating than fun.

Maybe I'm hostile, but I feel like I've spent more time fighting the game mechanics of this game, than having fun with it. I could get over the chores and slow pace, but not the frustrating mechanics that R* calls game play.

In short: I'm wondering when the realism of the old west kicks in, because I'm not seeing it

[GamingSinceForever]

I agree that Farcry 5 was a blast to play. I just finished RDR2 and I can say that it was just ok. The production was of high value but gameplay-wise I got nothing out of it. I can’t recall it being very challenging at any point.

[Traecy]

I haven't played in a while & I'll get back to it soon & hopefully it gets better otherwise I'm done with it. There's nothing worse than playing a game that seems like a chore & you're not getting any fun out of it.

[Smitty2020]

Can you please give me a reason why you didn’t enjoy these games please? Iv had a blast on both

[agent13]

for me rdr2 is one of the best games of the generation it's absolutely amazing and a great technical and artistic achievement it's almost perfect i don't know why some people nag about the game maybe because they didn't even finish it. just tell me what do you expect from a video game that rdr2 didn't have?

[KyRo]

RDR2 is a beautiful and technical marvel. The game is just mindnumbingly boring. The story is dragged out when it could of ended a hell of a lot earlier. It just really isn't that fun where as God of War was amazing, the story was engaging between father and son and the gameplay was varied.

[rainslacker]

There's a lot of game play mechanics which tend to drag it down. The game itself isn't bad at all, but the combination of overly complicated stamina systems, horse care, personal care, general chore stuff to make money with the only way to make it easier to grind a lot to get more.saddle and bag space, the general bounty system, and the overall uninteresting early build up, coupled with extremely limited fast travel, which is made worse if you want to be an outlaw since you can't use it with a bounty on your head, makes the game tedious and dull.

It is certainly a technical.achievement, but with a few changes to the game play, it could have been an actual great game. As it is, it's a complex game, which it doesn't need to be...even if they want to have all the detail.

[JackBNimble]

Kyro
Why do you guys keep bring up gow ? ... they are two completely different game styles .
I personally have no interest in gow , just not my kind of game.

[IamTylerDurden1]

The legitimate list. 5 deep.

1. Fallout 76

2. Sea of Thieves

3. MG Survive

4. We Happy Few

5. State of Decay 2

[EazyC]

It's official, people really don't like RDR 2.

[Ezio2048]

Is that why it is selling so much and has gotten over 50 goty awards??

[Elda]

EazyC means some people are not fond of RDR2.

[gamer9]

U Serious? Rockstar games are going to sell, based on the pedigree of their previous games, no matter if it happens to be amazing or just okay, it’s gonna sell a ton. People pre-order or buy day 1 before any reviews.

GOTY awards? Again due to popularity, no reviewer wants to be the 1 outlier that gives RDR2 an 7/10, or they will get torn up by comments. Riding your horse from point to point 90% of the game, this CAN’T be one of the top 5 games in the past decade, come on. Yet there it sits with a 97 metacritic. Reviews and GOTY are not always fair, and are sometimes swayed by politics. FYI I’d give the game an 8/10

[EazyC]

Perhaps not, but it's getting a lot of hate. Again, I adore this game - look at my recent comments.

[stupidusername]

@gamer9

What your doing there is making assumptions and taking them for facts. I don’t get why some people can’t realize that others totaly loved rdr 2 and had a incredible time with it.
I for one absolutely dreaded Horizon as I felt that it was just another open world game, but the majority loved it. But I don’t make assumptions that Horizon was loved just because it was a ps exclusive and that people only care about graphics, and that reviewers are afraid to give it any lower than 7 because it will put them in a bad spot with Sony and their readers.

[Yi-Long]

I'm people, and I think it's an amazing game.

[ClayRules2012]

Right there with you bud. Regardless of some flaws, an amazing game it is. And my personal favorite Rockstar game. I sure do wish we could use the hot air ballon for fun lol.

[EazyC]

I think it's one of the best games I've played, I'm just noticing from talking to others and what I see on the Internet!

[ClayRules2012]

Many people love RDR2, while many others don’t like RDR2. It happens.

[StrengthInNumbers]

this.

[Discobastrd]

Yup, amazing right? From my friend base, the older guys found it a chore. Shallow and with baddly designed controls ripped right from GTA.

[Profchaos]

Just because people are loud and comment alot doesn't mean a vast majority of people didn't like it the game sold 17 million copies in its first 24 hours to near perfect scores universally but because dopeman6969 wrote a list of games he didn't like and listed red dead because he expected a Michael bay everything blows up and requires no attention span game it must be bad.

It's a clear competitor for goty

[Discobastrd]

Nope

[AK91]

let people think what they want, I personally think Breath of the Wild is trash and Witcher 3 is boring but that didn't really stop either games from being a success.

[Discobastrd]

Exactly, it's great we can all like different things. It's not great that people can't handle that and opposing opinions. Bored shitless after 20 hrs or RDR2. BoTW was incredible. Witcher ruined by terrible interaction design.

[frostypants]

I liked it. People are being edgy morons.

[WillyC009]

How is it official? I personally loved it and am on my second playthrough.

Your sweeping generalization is way off the mark.

[william_cade]

It's official people don't like your comment hahahaaha "it's official" hahahaah

[Skankinruby]

Red Dead 2 was fantastic, only rockstar game to date with a campaign that meant much, even RDR 1 wasn't void of this. People wanted a brainless sandbox button masher and rockstar gave them a masterpiece they didn't deserve

[william_cade]

Sums it up. RDR2 is a fantastic game

[fluxmulder]

Forbes has officially descended into clickbait territory.

[bluefox755]

Still forming my opinion on RDR2, and while I am enjoying it, and I think it has potential, it's hard to ignore that it really didn't live up to the hype. Hope it gets better as I put more hours in.

[ClayRules2012]

How far into the game are you? Like chapter wise.

[Discobastrd]

It doesn't really. I have up. Better off playing GoW again

[Elda]

I didn't play Fallout 76,Far Cry 5 was my first Far Cry game I've ever played & I enjoyed it that I'm going to buy the sequel that's releasing this coming Feb. RDR2 is my first RDR game & it's very disappointing. I've only played 6 hrs & I haven't gone back to it in weeks because it was boring,once I finish some of my backlog of current games that I'm now playing I'll go back to RDR2 to see if it gets any better otherwise I'll be trading it in towards any new game dropping in the first 3 months of 2019.

[shammgod]

I sold RDR2 after 25 hours in. So disappointing

[ClayRules2012]

Wow, sorry to hear you were disappointed.

What were your issues with it?

[shammgod]

Hard to explain, but it felt like gta4 where hanging out with nicos brother became a pain in the ass. The way the missions are setup and play out aren’t open at all. Very scripted and if you make a pit stop or do something the mission doesn’t want...fail.

The game looks great and I want to love it. I probably should have kept it for the online, but too late as it wasn’t out when I sold it.

[ziggurcat]

"The way the missions are setup and play out aren’t open at all. Very scripted and if you make a pit stop or do something the mission doesn’t want...fail."

... because they're missions, not free roam...

My only complaint about the missions is how they set up completing the tasks. Some of them are so unnecessarily difficult because of the time limit you have, but then they force you to go at the AI's pace, which eats up so much of the time, and then you have zero room for error when you get to a gun fight (I'm looking at you, American Pastoral Scene, and Fine Art of Conversation...).

They should have also allowed you to focus on each of the tasks one at a time if you chose rather than having to do everything all at once (like the last one, and even GTAV allowed that).

Also, if you do the missions over again via the replay option instead of making a save before each mission, you're stuck with base stats, and no dead eye tonics, etc... super annoying when you have to get X amount of headshots or have to race your horse to a certain point in X amount of time.

I have other issues with the game as well (I won't really be touching the grief fest of a MP mode until they implement a passive mode/private server), but I don't think how the missions themselves play out is a problem (as I said, it's not another free roam session).

[rainslacker]

My only problem with the missions is they don't give you the extra goals until after you compete them, pretty much forcing you to redo them later if you want to go for trophies. That's going to be a lot of grind.

The side missions are ok, but I'm only about 13% into the story, so hopefully it opens up a bit more. It's hard to go out and do more than one thing though. Like I got some pelts and a good carcass, but then had the chance to help a stranger, but to give them a ride, had to discard the carcass.

The bounty system for even when you accidently commit a crime, like pressing r2 instead of L2, is a.nuisance. and while it didn't bother me at first, having to redo your loadout every time you dismount is a really stupid.mechanic, especially since there is little reason to change it out that often.

The game to.me isnt.bad, there are just a lot of stupid annoyances which they seemed to include just to make it seem more realistic. As it is, it feels more like a chore.

And I don't even get started on how rigged and slow the poker is.

[gangsta_red]

You returned a game because you were disappointed with what you had played so far???

That's just crazy talk!

[ClayRules2012]

Okay. I appreciate you explaining that. That’s a bummer tho. I hope, if you decide to get the next Rockstar game (if it looks better to you) that you’ll enjoy it, if you decide to buy it.

[CaptainObvious878]

I still intend to finish RDR2, but the mission structure is a joke considering how detailed the world is.

Spend 10 mins slowing riding to point A, because you're riding with someone and don't you dare ride a full speed across country. You darn well are going to properly escort your slow partner because he needs to finish his long dialogue before you reach your destination.

Then you finally reach your destination, something bad happens and you need to fight using the same gunplay and tactics you always use, while combating the awful controls.

Then once everyone is dead, slowly move to point B.

Rinse and repeat for every single fing mission, and don't you dare deviate from R*'s predetermined mission placement. You better be in the correct place at the correct time or mission failure. Don't you dare think for yourself or complete the mission in your own creative way.

Oh, but feel free to completely ignore your camp's provisions and supplies as that has no consequence.

[Discobastrd]

Isn't it! Fucking drag

[3-4-5]

I've enjoyed RDR2, but I've had it since launch and only just got to chapter 3. I started a new job right about the same time as release so not as much time to play it but nothing in the game really drew me in and compelled me to play more either.

I can see the skill and potential + content in the game but I don't have much interested in continuing to play or to do 80% of the stuff there is to do in the game.

It feels dated....and not in a good way. It's too boring and too much wasted potential while also being a really good game for what it does right.

Odd complex of a game that is both really good and also kind of bad in some areas as well.

I'm enjoying Smash Bros. Ultimate too much to care about RDR2 right now though.

I'm more interested in GTA6 than I was for RDR2.

[rainslacker]

I thought I'd like it more if I played it outside of work, where I usually only had an hour or two. I happened to get it for xmas, and played it for three days straight now, for about 8-10 hours each day(vacation ftw). And I can say it's actually more boring and frustrating when your playing it in a way that youre trying to get something done and progress in the story and other content. It's like the whole game is designed to make you work for every thing. That would be fine if the work was overall fun, but most of it is travelling around, and hunting is a major chore unless you just happen across some game. Even when you do, you can easily give up some decent game if you happen across something rare, because the amount you can carry is ridiculously low for how the crafting system is set up.

I'm about to give up because I accidently shot a butcher, then got on the wrong horse and despite getting right off, had half the town shooting at me, and the other half chasing me when j decided to run, and a witness when I apparently killed a.guy in a fist fight, where he attacked me.first. that was in the country, and I ended up shooting enough people.trying to.kill me to rack up a.$200 bounty, and I thought to myself, " this is the worst design for a game which is supposed to let you choose to be an outlaw I've ever seen."

I might just rack up the bounty a bit more then go for the trophy, but not sure if I have it in me to care beyond that. I feel obligated to finish the story, just so I can say I did, but I'm not having fun with it, and I did get sottr, and valkyria chronicles 4 for xmas which I think is enjoy more. I'd rather not waste my whole vacation on the game.

[carcarias]

This isn't surprising with regards to RDR2.

They made choices which were always going to go against the grain for a lot of gamers. Limited fast travel, tons of 'simulation' busy-work for added authenticity and lots of forced travel time and dialogue. Combine that with the usual mission design and, for many, poor combat one would associate with a R* game and you've got a game that can't please everyone.

It obviously paid off big for those looking for that sort of thing and I'm happy for them, btw. However, whilst I respect R* for having a very specific creative goal and sticking to it, rather than trying to please everyone, it was always going to end up being a love/hate kinda thing.

[rainslacker]

I think a lot of people didn't realize what they'd get. That leads to disappointment.

While I can't say they haven't made a great technical achievement, and no one annoyance on its own is really bad, the way it all comes together makes it into a poor game. If this game didn't have r* behind it, there is no way it would have rated as high. I've seen so many of the reviews actually say how boring this game is, or how some of the mechanics were bad, but it didn't matter because look how pretty it is....and it's r*.

The game isn't bad, but if I brought it based off the hype, or review scores, I'd wonder what was wrong with people. It's like every grievance people have with other games is inconsequential for this game.

[DrStronk]

I'm somewhat glad that i'm not the only one dissspointed in RDR2. The gameplay is so boring and shallow.

[rainslacker]

I didn't think it was shallow. I did feel it was overly complex.

[Nucler100]

I saw some fans saying RDR2 was “disappointing” or “overrated” before playing the game and was like “Damn, so they didn’t deliver?”

I literally just beat the entire game and was FLOORED the ENTIRE game. This might be the best game I have ever played. If not the best, Top 3.

This is why I stopped looking at reviews from fans or critics. I go and check for myself and it’s usually always the opposite experience. Some are bad, but majority of the time things just turn out to be an overreaction. (Excluding scam games and such which is something I do pay attention to)

Everyone is overly critical and nitpick-icky. Miss the days of just turning on the game and just enjoying it. Hell, people will destroy your perception of a game or anything before you even experience it. I’m just not in sync with how everyone else view things.

I just enjoy things for myself, not looking for any outside points or opinions. I just turn on the game and get lost in it. When I’m done, I give my opinion and if I liked it, I continue to enjoy it lol.

I do this with music and movies too. Just feels way better and you get a lot more enjoyment out of everything. The MOST enjoyment imo. Just like the old days before social media lol.

[franwex]

I guess you like games with bad controls and repetitive boring missions.

I kid, I kid (kinda).

But it’s cool if you liked it. But for every person not liking it there’s 10 praising it just how you just did. Saying that it’s one of the best games EVER. Which is simply not true. We are balancing out the over praise, that’s all.
Plus if you really liked that game you’ll probably really like other games that do the open world a little better such as breath of the wild, or Horizon. So I recommend you check those out if you haven’t already.

[Nucler100]

I played and owned all of them. Literally any you can name. Saying it’s “simply not true” is how YOU feel. I don’t care about how YOU feel, no offense. This is exactly what I was saying in the original post. We don’t think the same and we dont enjoy the same things. I loved the missions, side missions, story, managing/gameplay, world, characters etc. Really really loved the realism and Arthur Morgan might be my favorite video game protagonist of all time. That’s just how I feel.

Saying “it’s not true and THIS is better” is the legit problem. I don’t think like that at all. Botw is one of my favorites of all time, but NO WHERE in my mind when I said “RDR2 might be my favorite of all time” was I thinking:

“Well, Red Dead did this thing better than botw” or “Horizon did this thing better than Read Dead” etc.

I don’t give a *damn*. I’m just enjoying the game. I’m not sitting here critiquing and comparing, looking up reviews, feedback etc. I’m simply enjoying my experience. There could be something I dislike, but I never make a big deal over it or compare it. I just dislike it and move on. This is just how I am.

Y’all have to stop trying to force people to have your same opinions. Or make it as “fact”. People are different. You be you, let them be them.

[franwex]

So what are your top 3 games. I'm curious since you mentioned it.

[AK91]

I've got 5

1. Fallout 76
2. Sea of Thieves
3. We Happy Few
4. State of Decay 2 (this one hurts me)
5. Assassins Creed Odyssey (not a bad game but didn't add much to the series after Origins).

Also RDR 2 and Far Cry don't belong on that list.

[william_cade]

I forgot We Happy Few

[King_Noctis]

Why is RDR2 there?

[Razzer]

Read the article.

[King_Noctis]

I did. The game has flaws (which game doesn’t?), but how is it of the most disappointing games of 2018? It scores 97 on Metacritic (the first multiplatform game this gen to achieve this) and had sold millions.

So again I ask, why is this game on the list?

[Razzer]

"Opinion Piece". Not everyone agrees with RDR2's review scores.

[ziggurcat]

opinion or not, there's no way that this game falls into the "most disappointing" category, even with its flaws.

[Razzer]

You disagree that it is "most disappointing". That too is an opinion and you are free to it. Saying "opinion or not" doesn't make any sense. There is no "or not". There are only opinions here.

[ziggurcat]

Well, no... there are objectively more disappointing games than RDR 2.

[Razzer]

Disappointment is a personal emotion, absolutely and entirely. How in the world do you think for a second that you can gauge levels of disappointment about anything to anyone other than yourself. You can say you were more disappointed about other games than RDR2 and there is no way anyone can say you are wrong. Same for others who say they were more disappointed in RDR2 than other games. You might as well ask them their favorite color and then tell them they are wrong.

[ziggurcat]

Again, no. Disappointment can be objectively measured based on the creator's promises, building up expectations beyond what the game is capable of producing, and not delivering on those promises/expectations when the game is released.

No Man's Sky was, by a lot of accounts, objectively disappointing. Sea of Thieves would also fall under that category.

[Razzer]

You do realize the author is not stating that there is a general consensus that RDR2 is disappointing, right? The article is written from a personal perspective. Kevin Murnane finds RDR2 to be disappointing. That is all there is to it.

[FunAndGun]

Because it's a boring cowboy simulator with whack-a-mole gameplay.

[StrengthInNumbers]

this is just one person's opinion. Let's not act like it's universal.

[Artemidorus]

Two out of three isn't bad.

[william_cade]

Yeah, no matter how you feel about RDR2 - there is no way it is even close to the disappointment 76 has been.

At any rate, I'm still playing RDR2 and having a great time.

[rainslacker]

True. I wouldn't even call it the most disappointing. It's just the most devisive game on the list.

Game isn't bad, just has a few questionable design choices.

[EmperorDalek]

Far Cry 5? It's the best first person shooter in ages. Red Dead's a masterpiece, but due to the slow pace, I'm not surprised some people dislike it.

[ziggurcat]

The pace of the game is fine, and appropriate for the time period - you can choose to blow through the whole story if you want or take it really slow. I spent a month just in Chapter 2 alone because I took the time to explore, and do as much of the side stuff before moving on to the main story.

[PCgamer98]

Rdr2 is my personal goty and most people I knew who bought the game love it as well. Controls and the whole survival simulation thing kinda sucks though.

[ziggurcat]

It's my GOTY, too. I admittedly had a lot of trepidation prior to starting the game - I thought that the survival mechanics would ruin the experience, but it ended up being non-existent to the point where it seemed pointless to have that mechanic in the game altogether - but it ended up being an all over great experience.

I am done the main story chapters, finishing the final two "chapters", and Arthur is seriously the best character I've ever played in any video game.

[franwex]

I know I’ll get crucified for this one. But I’ll say it: add GOD OF WAR to that list.

Yep.

[Skankinruby]

God of war is a good game, but MILES from being anywhere near the level these GOTY circle jerks are making it out to be. Very repetitive, bland story other than the very beginning and the 'ohhhh shit' moment when he pulls out the blades of chaos. If I read all these idiots comments before actually playing the game I would have been disappointed as hell.

[Razzer]

You could call out "circle jerks" for RDR2, Zelda BoTW, or just about any game out there that received high praise. It is fine if you didn't think it was as good as others. But calling people "idiots" because they like God of War a hell of a lot more than you....that is truly idiotic.

[Skankinruby]

@Razzer
I call them idiots because they equate depth and substance to being 'boring'. I am not partial to any company or franchise at all. In fact I've always called out GTA for being the overrated nonsense that it simply is so I have zero bias towards rockstar. RDR2 had characters and storytelling that were simply untouchable this year, and because it's a rockstar game people clearly just wanted to run around blowing shit up. I have no problem with the praise God of war got, but the meaningless insults to RDR 2 are just laughable, nothing idiotic about stating the obvious.

[Razzer]

You are making no sense at all. You called God of War fans "idiots" simply because they heaped praise on the game. That is exactly what you said above. Now you are talking about equating "depth and substance" as being boring? Are you talking about RDR2 now? Why are you assuming these are the same exact people? I know God of War fans here on n4g who also loved RDR2. You are generalizing randomly and it is just silly.

And yes, obviously you do have problems with the praise God of War received. But you are just spouting nonsense while calling out "circle jerks" and idiots so I don't think you even understand what point you think you are making.

[Skankinruby]

That is NOT why I called them idiots. Ever since this GOTY debate started every single person who jumped on GOWs nuts tied it with RDR insults along the lines of 'the game is boring bruh'. And when those insults are aimed at one of the best campaigns of this entire gen I will definitely counter it. I have no problem with God of war at all, I got the 'Father and Son' trophy. But half the time I spent getting It I had headphones on listening to music because there was no dialogue worth following, gameplay was the only significant part of the entire thing. I'm simply stating the obvious that no one else seems to want to say, is that other than a successful change in gameplay GOW doesn't have much else to gloat about.

[Razzer]

"every single person who jumped on GOWs nuts tied it with RDR insults along the lines of 'the game is boring bruh'."

Every single person. lol....if you can't see how idiotic that statement is then there is no use talking to you.

[MarcoGT]

I like RDR2 but I'm not one of those crazy people that over hypes with unrealistic expectations. Fuck knows what people were expecting. Online has some work to do but single player was pretty good.

[Discobastrd]

RDR2 - Pretty looking horse riding sim where you travel between cut scenes being distracted by millions of boring side quests while battling terrible controls. A fucking yawnfest in my book

[FunAndGun]

Reading a book is more exciting than RDR2.

[ziggurcat]

did you play the game?

[franwex]

@ziggurcat
Did you? Because I feel their assessment is actually accurate.

[ziggurcat]

I'm currently at the tail end of the game, finished the main story chapters. So... yes. Apart from some poorly considered gameplay mechanics, there's nothing disappointing about the game.

Finding it "boring" just means you weren't considering the time period, and going into it thinking it was a a modern day action shooter. That's not the game's fault.

[Discobastrd]

Looooool :)

[Knightofelemia]

I liked Far Cry 5 and I really had fun playing Red Dead 2 Arthur I thought was great for a character.

[KillBill]

"Most"... really? Like no other games disappointed more? So tired of these sights that have no clue what they are writing about.

[bigmalky]

It's clickbait... Why does clickbait get so much attention?

Just stop clicking on the articles.

[mogwaii]

Rdr2 is one of if not the best looking game to date but man it feels stiff and awkward to play, the controls are too jumbled and fiddly, too many mistakes are made just trying to do the simplist things which gets very frustrating which in turn takes alot of enjoyment out of playing it, the movement of the characters and horse are quite bad too and also glitchy this is all on top of the touchy as hell law system, overly aggressive npcs and miriad of other annoying things which just piles on the frustration in what should be a smooth fun experience. I enjoy the slower pace and the scenery but Im over the controls and frustration.

[Germaximus]

"RDR2 has everything I hoped it would have and more. I should love this game but instead it’s been a crushing disappointment for one simple reason. It’s not fun to play."

Yup.

And everything said about Far Cry 5 is also spot on.

[Staindtemples]

I think RD2 Single Player is fantastic, The online was a little buggy but its improving. Besides its still in beta form and our feedback will help make it better. Same goes for Fallout 76, all they need is feedback to make the improvements we all think it needs. Fallout has always been the same from day one all glitches and frame rate drops, So if you are like me and enjoy Fallout you will enjoy Fallout 76 no matter what the critics say. Fallout 76 is a lot of fun when you have friends that are into the game and get spooked by every little noise.

[Latex74]

It's funny all of my mates that have got rdr2 all have stopped playing it and say not sure if they will bother putting in back in there ps4 none have completed but say it's a good game just boring strange