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Bethesda bans Fallout 76 players for life after shocking in-game homophobic attack

Bethesda has banned a group of Fallout 76 players for life after a shocking in-game homophobic attack.

The move relates to an incident in which a group of Fallout 76 players targeted and harassed another group of players, saying over the proximity chat: "we have come to eliminate all gays."

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Neonridr1987d ago

Wow. I guess respect is something that isn't even taught to the youth of today. I don't know what's more disturbing, what I watched or the fact that the guys thought what they were doing was funny. Glad to hear they are banned forever. This stuff has no place in this world at all.

LucasRuinedChildhood1987d ago (Edited 1987d ago )

It's hard to deny that the youth of today show far more respect to gay people than previous generations. Other than that, I agree with your comment. I think that games journalists at times go out of their way to get offended and create clickbait articles but this is a real story. These guys were legitimately bad so I agree with Bethesda's judgement. However, the fact that it was so difficult to report these guys further highlights just how badly made Fallout 76 is.

I opted to watch one of the videos first before reading the entire article to form my own rough opinion on the incident. At first these guys were being so dumb that I thought that maybe they were intentionally acting idiotic to get some laughs (perhaps self-aware). The further you get into these videos, the more you realize that this is definitely not the case though. They really are just mean-spirited pricks.

Neonridr1987d ago

fair enough, unfortunately there's always these sorts of players that feel it necessary to ruin the experiences for others because they think it's worth a few laughs to themselves. Gad to see Bethesda at least stepped in and prevented these guys from doing this sort of stuff on their servers ever again. I agree there needs to be a better way to report offenders, but I think for something like this, only a video was going to suffice to show just how bad it was.

DaCajun1986d ago (Edited 1986d ago )

I was just talking about something similar the other day with someone about our youth. The conclusion we came up with if you just look at facts throughout history is there is nothing different from one generation to another. In general, with humans there has always been ignorant bigoted jerks since the beginning of humankind unfortunately. The worst disease to inflict humans if you ask me and for some reason continues to thrive and spread faster than most diseases thanks to the internet. The worst thing also is it will never change until the end of humans.

bluefox7551986d ago

The reason it gets clicks is because everyone knows why they're doing it. The expression: "There's no such thing as bad publicity" rings true on most games journalism these days. It's 100% about getting clicks, which is why they treat gay people like none of them have a spine.

Felix_Argyle_Catbro1986d ago

I guess generalization is a word that is not taught to old people, based on your comment.

Sono4211986d ago (Edited 1986d ago )

honestly seeing articles like this constantly is getting old. There will always be immature edgy humor online because online is mostly filled with kids. If you're gonna perma ban every single person who makes an edgy joke you might as well just ban everyone. Or just a thought, you put the warning saying "online interactions aren't rated" and you aren't responsible for what happens online and then leave it at that, instead of selectively reacting to fake outrage and banning people. Don't like what someone is saying? Mute them, don't cry to Bethesda and ask for a ban you spineless millennials. Although I do understand the developer is in a rock and a hard place, because if they do nothing you'll see cancerous "news" sources calling them homophobic for not banning the wanna be edgy teens. It really comes down to the fact society is just becoming dumbed down and spineless, constantly running to authority and asking them to do something instead of doing it themselves. Pathetic.

nyu11986d ago

It's just them being edgy with dark humour, but it went too far and became too distasteful.

I can see how this kind of thing can be funny. I laughed at the way they said "Cleansing of the Queers". It's ridiculous, and that's the point. However if you're doing this you have to use common sense. Maybe in a party of close friends who know and appreciate that kind of silly humour, but otherwise not surprised they got banned. If you do want to do this kind of thing be a little more tasteful, maybe 'cleanse' some fictional group in the Fallout 76, not gays.

kayoss1986d ago (Edited 1986d ago )

Remember when hitler started saying, cleansing of the Jews and remember how that turn out? Joke or no joke, these subject matters are no longer up for humor. Same with racism.

DaCajun1986d ago

Ignorance begets ignorance

The world never changes.

nyu11986d ago

@kayoss

You can say that about half of comedy, but it doesn't work like that. Lots of humour targets certain groups.

At the end of the day you just have to be careful what you say and when you say it. If you say the wrong the joke and the wrong time don't be surprised when people find it too much and call you out.

81BX1986d ago

@kayoss
I laughed when I read it. Oh noooooos! Hitler is back!

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rainslacker1986d ago

I've noticed a lot of the youth of today that use racial slurs or spread racial or homophobic slurs, tend to do so more because they think it's funny, rather than being racist or homophobic. It's really sad that they think it's a joking matter. It can work in satire like South Park, but it's done in a way to show that those people using it are ignorant. In cases like this, it just make the person look ignorant.

deno1986d ago (Edited 1986d ago )

While I do agree with you on this. What really needs to be taught today, especially by parents, is morals. Everyone does what is right in their own mind.

DaCajun1986d ago (Edited 1986d ago )

I didn't disagree with you but unfortunately, some can't teach what they themselves don't have to begin with.

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Majin-vegeta1986d ago

Lol his response 10/10.Like banning will do anything...hell just go create another account.

darthv721986d ago

then that one will get banned and then the next and then the next. Like when rookie kept getting banned here and yet was making account after account to try and find his way back in.

I wonder what happened to him....? Did he clean up his act and now resides among us as a new persona or did he simply give up knowing he would be found out no matter how many accounts he tried to make.

The world may never know.

Christopher1986d ago (Edited 1986d ago )

@TheColbertinator

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You inviting me into those restriction areas?

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DragonbornZ1986d ago

@Darth
Yea it's less about putting a full stop to something and more along the lines of mitigation.

Obviously its within their power to create new accounts, but unless they're some vengeful hateful people who will just create multiple accounts to harass gay people, how likely is it they'll continuously want to risk their progress?

@TheColbertinator
Lol

RauLeCreuset1986d ago

Colbertinator, you are awesome. Don't ever let anyone tell you different.

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DaCajun1986d ago

OMG I forgot about that guy. lol

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DaDrunkenJester1986d ago

Getting banned for life seems like less of a punishment and more of a blessing in this game.

Rachel_Alucard1986d ago

The article is assuming life but the reality is it was only 3 days and one of the banned ones didn't even care enough to go back.

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Elda1986d ago (Edited 1986d ago )

If true...I'm wondering how did they know what players were Gay from playing a videogame in the first place,unless they were just making it up. Though in most cases folks that Gay bash are the usual suspects that are fighting within themselves of mutual attraction of the same gender,though some also do this from "fear" of the unknown. Js.

Rachel_Alucard1986d ago

The victim was hitting on one of the attackers earlier, that's how they knew.

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Mroc131986d ago

The victim got what was coming then

slate911986d ago

He called one of the other player's outfits "cute". I wouldnt call that hitting on them.

CorndogBurglar1986d ago (Edited 1986d ago )

Is no one going to bring up the fact that the "victims" were all running around with nothing but tight whitey underwear on and telling other players in the game that they thought their clothes were "cute"?

I suppose that doesn't make it okay to get harassed, but let's be realistic here. These guys were purposely trying to make other players uncomfortable by doing this. There's no other reason for it.

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CorndogBurglar1986d ago (Edited 1986d ago )

The "victims" were running around as a group wearing nothing but tighty whitey underwear and telling other Male players in the world that they thought their outfits were "cute". And we only know that because that's what one of the "victims" said. Who knows what else they might have said.

So lets try to be a little more realistic.

1. This is a game where the entire point is to be able to kill other players. Whether you have a reason to or not, it's one of the main features of the game.

2. These victims were very obviously trying to make other players uncomfortable if they are traveling as a group of Male characters wearing nothing but underwear and telling other male players how cute they think they look.

I don't want to sound like they deserved it or anything like that at all. Following them around and killing them and talking the way they were is certainly not acceptable. But again, it's a game where other players can attack and kill you for no reason at all. So maybe going around and doing something that other people may find offensive or uncomfortable is not the smartest thing to do of you don't want something like this to happen?

What I really get tired of in society is how people with "different" sexual orientations can play the offended card anytime they want, but a straight person is not allowed to be offended or uncomfortable by them? It's sort of a double standard.

Elda1985d ago (Edited 1985d ago )

You make a good point. It's just a game anyways but folks going around even in a game saying kill the Gays is somewhat disturbing.Running around in underwear some may find it disturbing but it's just a videogame,it seems like a no win situation...lol.

InTheZoneAC1985d ago

By your logic when everyone calls each other n-word in online games that means they want to be a slave themselves? Your blanket statement is old and holds no actual truth. Sorry.

Elda1985d ago (Edited 1985d ago )

If you're referring to my initial comment your analogy doesn't make any sense what so ever. It's been proven in psychology studies including real life cases that in most cases (not all) the usual person that always go out their way to call Gay people names like (f*ggot) or even to assault them are the usual closet cases. Their usually bothered by the fact that they don't have the courage to be want they want to be & take their frustration out on that Gay individual because they have the courage to be who they are,sometimes it's to get the persons attention but they don't have the courage to do so so they do it in a negative way. In other cases it's pure immaturity/ignorance so they become bullies because they fear a culture/lifestyle that they know nothing about & only know the negative stereotypes that their peers may have told them especially if it involves religion,somewhat of a comparison of what people of color had to go through in the 50's & 60's (racism) which has somewhat resurfaced in the USA because of the now Trump era.

InTheZoneAC1985d ago

we're talking about online chat, not physical assault.

Elda1985d ago

Gay bashing/bullying is harassment no matter if it's physical,verbally or behind a keyboard it's all in the same pot including the fact that these idiots/cowards do this because there are reasons behind why they do it.

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parris1986d ago

I'm offended that Bethesda got offended... is what type of comments I'm sure this thread will end up being full of.

CaptainObvious8781986d ago

When there's an actual legitimate case of extreme harassment I have no issue with the culprits getting punished.

But I do have an issue when "punching a virtual feminist in RDR2" is considered violent and all men are labelled sexist for one persons actions.

RacerX1986d ago

Bethesda created a game revolved around killing eachother, where "extreme harassment" is actually encouraged. Other than the targeting of homosexuals, that is the game they created.

whothedog1986d ago

Shooting and killing people is ok, but saying mean words is over the line. There is a thing called a block button, maybe he should of used that.

PapaBop1986d ago

Being offended over trivial things like a character in a revealing outfit for a game that person had no interest in in the first place is completely different from someone suffering from online abuse in a game. I wished more companies would take a zero tolerance policy on online abuse like Bethesda has done here.

Majin-vegeta1986d ago

Abuse?Lol please unless they're hurting him in real life this isn't abuse.Just cuz a few words hurt him.

81BX1986d ago

Abuse?!?!?!? Agaahahahaaa
You guys are too much

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Xbox, do you even have a plan anymore?

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Chocoburger34m ago

They clearly never did, hence why they spent so many BILLIONS on other publishers as a last resort.

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Brad Hilderbrand explains the reason behind the recent Xbox studio closures

There are two reasons why all those Bethesda studios closed, and neither of them have anything to do with Bethesda (directly)...

Game Pass and Activision.

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Christopher3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

The guy confirming what we've all (well, most of us) been saying since the latest purchase.

crazyCoconuts1h ago

Remember the relatively common counter that went something like "I'm sure you arm-chair CEOs know better how to run a company than the biggest company in the world"?

I mean - there's a lot to running a company for sure, but on this topic it's hard to understand how Phil and team didn't see this coming.

Tody_ZA45m ago(Edited 43m ago)

Phil and team knew it was coming and planned for it. It's not even a conspiracy, it's simply the business of cutting costs and superfluous studios after a major acquisition. They don't give a damn about Tango Gameworks or other small creative studios that won't recoup their losses. They don't care about investing in this industry. They have no interest in risky and expensive new IP. They are only interested in profiting off ownership of Bethesda IP, Call of Duty and Candy Crush.

I guarantee you that not one single game under their banner will improve or become bigger and better.

Welcome to the Xbox family, what a pathetic joke.

Anyone who continues to support this, enjoy your future, because this is it. Ninja Theory is next, and Perfect Dark after that.

XiNatsuDragnel3h ago

I'm not surprised Microsoft guys are crock nuff said

isarai3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

Honestly i think Bethesda needs to buy themselves out of zenimax/MSs hands and do their own thing, i honestly think that would fix a lot of issues and save them from a potential closure.

Zeref3h ago

There's a reason they sold in the first place. And Bethesda is not closing anytime soon lol. As much as I hate the studio closures. They were all small studios 2 of them were mobile studios.

I think these are growing pains and Xbox will get back on track. But they're not getting any more passes.

jwillj2k41h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I’d like to see your reaction to being growing pained out of your job after the launch of a successful product.

Einhander19723h ago

Ah, we can see how the Microsoft media machine works.

Every article I read now is some kind of attempt to shift the blame off Microsoft and paint them as the victims or convince people that Microsoft mistakes were just some kind unforeseeable unfortunate twist of fate.

The shills are out in full force today.

Christopher2h ago

This is not at all what this article is saying. It's saying that honest and useful studios are getting closed because of big money deals elsewhere and the faults with game pass as a model.

Einhander19722h ago

I understand what the article is about.

It's a deflection, it's a putting the cart before the horse article.

Let me tell you how this problem wouldn't have existed in the first place.

Microsoft not creating a service funded by subsidization and having the foresight to see that it would disrupt consumer spending habit to begin with. Then not buying Bethesda and undertaking costs for a service that was already failing to pay for itself because their own expectations of Game Pass having "billions" of subscribers was unobtainable from the very start.

And if you don't think that was the case go back to the article on the day Game Pass launched and read the comments from people from day one who foresaw that this would be an unsustainable model and would cause people to stop spending in the same way.

Christopher2h ago

***Microsoft not creating a service funded by subsidization and having the foresight to see that it would disrupt consumer spending habit to begin with.***

This article literally supports this opinion. He's not praising Game Pass or the ABK purchase.

Einhander19722h ago(Edited 2h ago)

This is an explanation of why it failed, there is zero blame put onto Microsoft itself.

Yes, it talks about what went wrong, but it doesn't say Microsoft shouldn't have done it. It doesn't say Phil should have foreseen this outcome and stopped before it got to this point.

"convince people that Microsoft mistakes were just some kind unforeseeable unfortunate twist of fate"

Christopher1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

***but you're seeing the impact; all those smaller studios making really interesting games are going to fall away, simply because as good as games like Hi-Fi Rush are, they're never going to make enough money to make up that $70B hole that Xbox now has to dig itself out of.***

If you see that as support or you explicitly just want people to end their argument with "and, in conclusion, Microsoft bad" then that's on you. This article does not support Microsoft's choices and highlights the faults. Nothing it says is good about these choices, even saying that putting CoD on Game Pass would be money losing for them because they've set themselves up for failure (and not putting it on there will drop subscriber numbers like crazy, meaning their Game Pass plans were shit to begin with).

No matter how you look at it, they're saying Microsoft made decisions that hurt the bottom line, force closures, and leave Game Pass in a situation where they lose no matter what they do. It's all negative.

Einhander19721h ago

Christopher, if Microsoft hadn't made Game Pass and bought a bunch of publishers would this article even need to exist?

Christopher1h ago

***Christopher, if Microsoft hadn't made Game Pass and bought a bunch of publishers would this article even need to exist? ***

How is this an argument to anything being discussed? This is just as valuable of an argument as "if fish had stayed in deeper waters, they wouldn't have evolved to tetrapods, adapted to shallow water and then to land, and we wouldn't even exist and have to worry about game pass at all."

You're bringing nothing to this argument and then complaining that other people are highlighting the issues with Game Pass and spending tens of billions on studios because what we should be discussing is what it would be like if Microsoft hadn't done any of that.

Well, they did do it. Now pull up your big boy pants and join in on the discussion of what that has meant for the industry since then and, especially right now, how that is affecting the industry and game studios under Microsoft. None of us are able to go back in time and change what was done.

Einhander197253m ago(Edited 41m ago)

Christopher, this isn't me not understanding what the article is about, it's you not understanding what I am saying.

If you want me to make excuses for Microsoft's bad decisions you're not going to get that or just agree with people who are doing that, it's not going to happen, nor are you going to convert me into thinking xbox "needs to exist".

Ya know what, maybe "Microsoft bad".... maybe their decisions ARE having a negative effect on the industry, and instead of deflecting from their actual actions and making excuses for them we stand up and say "no" "Microsoft is hurting the industry"

And maybe, just maybe, it was so obvious that this was going to be the outcome that even nobodies in comment sections on websites were able to easily predict this outcome, yet Microsoft did it anyway then kept doing and even when it became undeniable that it was having a negative impact on their business and and the industry itself, then they knowingly made even bigger purchases and caused more problems.

And the one thing you're right about is that I can't go back in time, but I CAN speak up and try to keep it from happening again...

Maybe if the people who were speaking up 7 years ago were listened too we wouldn't be having this discussion and Tango and Arkane would still be in business along with all the other people who have lost their jobs due to Microsoft's actions.

Do you like analogies?

What you're saying is like an alcoholic crashing their car then trying to explain it by saying it was caused by everything except the fact that they were dunk because they are an alcoholic and don't want to stop drinking.

TiredGamer43m ago

The article is essentially focusing the blame on MS. GamePass was a hail mary play to change the gaming paradigm and carve out a special niche for themselves, emulating the Netflix model, that might have led to MS becoming the leader in the long-term. Unfortunately, the subscriber growth isn't really there, and the model isn't really built to weather that lack of revenue. MS is now in a restructure mindset to figure out how they balance out their model in a way that can still make them money.

've always believed that GamePass was a high risk shot that had a very low chance of long-term success. But the problem with it, whether it succeeded or not, is that it accelerated the proverbial "race to zero" consumer expectation that ran its course in the mobile gaming industry in the late 2000s. When consumers start thinking that games should be "cheap" (as in through a $10/month all-you-can-eat subscription model), it turns the narrative against games being priced at realistic levels. So with the GamePass failure, they've not only sabotaged their market share, but they've impacted the entire industry and devalued the cost of game development to the average consumer. So now it's harder to develop mega-big budget games and to earn the revenue needed to pay for them.

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MrDead1h ago

It's greed. MS has the IP's it wants now it's dumping the studios that it's raided, MS will still make money from Tango's games unlike the people that made them. If anyone follows MS outside of gaming you'll see this is what they do, buy companies take what they want consolidate some of the workforce and shut them down. I don't know why people are acting so surprised when this is Microsoft being Microsoft.

MS is a three trillion dollar company, if it enters a market it has no need to compete, they take what they want and with the financial influence it can bypass laws that are meant to protect the consumer and the workforce. Just look at how they are cornering the AI market right now with buyups and investments.

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Capcom Had Record Sales in 2024 Fiscal Year

Capcom Co., Ltd. today announced that in its consolidated earnings for the fiscal year ended March 31, 2024, net sales were 152,410 million yen (up 21.0% year-over-year), operating income was 57,081 million yen (up 12.3% year-over-year), ordinary income was 59,422 million yen (up 15.7 % year-over-year), and net income attributable to owners of the parent was 43,374 million yen (up 18.1 % year-over-year).

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