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Another BioShock Game Could Jeopardize the Series

It has been over a decade since we were shown the beautiful and horrific corpse of the dystopian metropolis Rapture in Bioshock. Three years later, we returned to Rapture in BioShock 2, to once aga…

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Skull5212021d ago

The second and third games were far worse than the original so I'm not sure another one is jeopardizing anything.

Neonridr2021d ago

second maybe.. but the third was a good game. Maybe not as good as the first one, but still a really well done game.

ziggurcat2020d ago

I think what made 2 so derided was the shoehorned MP mode. There was no real reason to have it in the game, and it probably detracted from the single player campaign a little bit.

It also didn't really seem to jive with the sort-of trailer for the second game they had inserted at the end of the first one.

rainslacker2020d ago

third game is different than the first two, and a really well made game,. I don't compare the third to the first two, like I do the 2nd to the 3rd.

I thought the first was better, but I think the 2nd made a better emotional attachment to the character. Game play was more fluid in the 2nd than the 1st though.

Neonridr2020d ago

@rainslacker - yeah I just didn't get that grand story feel like I did with the 1st and 3rd ones. They were VERY well written. The first Bioshock is probably one of my favorite games in terms of just story. I absolutely adored the setting of Rapture.

-Foxtrot2021d ago

“If they don’t visit either Rapture or Columbia, then where else are we going to go? They can’t make another underwater city or floating metropolis, so I don’t know if they can do any other setting”

Really?

“There’s always a lighthouse, there’s always a man, there’s always a city”

Just because two worlds, the main world, Columbia, which burst into some many altered possibilities tied in with another world, Rapture where the overall Booker/Elizabeth story ended doesn’t mean it’s finished completely. That story has split into a multiverse of different possibilities so a new game can do anything with any time period after the year Booker was baptised anyway since that decision is what made Comstock and set everything in motion splitting up in altered universes.

A city on a secret Island
Built around a Volcano
Underground near the Earths core
North Pole
Space station
On the moon
On Mars
In a pocket dimension
On the side of some cliffs
On regular land but invisible (like Wakanda)
Hidden within the rain Forrest
Is actually El Dorado
Is actually Atlantis
Is actually the city of Ubar
...So on

They could tell so many stories with new themes, different powers, technology and city architecture.

NecrumOddBoy2020d ago

I would love to see something with trains in a steampunk western mountain range

rainslacker2020d ago (Edited 2020d ago )

They made Elizabeth into a sort of pivotal character to both universes, which seems like it could cause problems with the lore going forward given that she was going around getting rid of all the incarnations of Comstock, who wasn't even part of Rapture outside of Booker going there, which in itself didn't make sense because of the time frames of both games being separated by a whole 50 years.. Columbia and Rapture really had no connection to one another, and they sort of forced that into the third near the end. It made practically no sense in Buried at Sea, and seemed more about fan service, than actual narrative consistency.

The only real connection was thematic, and not really story based, and the themes were only about the game play, and not so much the philosophical nature of the content.

That said, I loved all three games, and yeah, I agree, there are plenty of places the game could take place, as the setting itself isn't as important to what's going on in that setting. It's more about extremism wanting to separate itself from society, and what that can bring, because people are people no matter what their beliefs.

Neonridr2020d ago

The whole idea of the Rapture visit during Infinite was to show you that there were multiple dimensions. The whole statement there is always a lighthouse, always a man, always a city reflects that. Basically Parallel worlds, all created based on different choices. Choices which are thrust in your face every time you bump into those people who flip the coins. It's suggested that Comstock, instead of going up into the sky to build Columbia, went down to build Rapture instead in a parallel world. Obviously nothing is concrete but there are a lot of similarities between the characters of Rapture and Columbia.

It's an interesting theory to dig through..

rainslacker2019d ago (Edited 2019d ago )

Yeah, but parallel worlds that don't actually line up with normal time lines didn't really make sense. The problem is that the two worlds were separated by about 30 years from one another, so Booker would have been really young. Its been a while since i played Burial at Sea, but I don't recall them ever implying that Comstock was responsible for building it. Booker was just a PI investigating something there.

ziggurcat2020d ago

I would not be disappointed with another Bioshock announcement.

tdogg2020d ago

Loved Bioshock 1 & 2 and infinite was ok but not like the first 2 installment something about the sea and little sisters that made me love the first 2 Bioshock games

Sonyslave32020d ago

Agree I just got done beating 2 and it was a great game dont know why people were saying it was a bad game.

rainslacker2020d ago

My biggest gripe about Infinite was there was nothing akin to the Big Daddy. Even when you played as a Big Daddy in 2, they had Big Sisters, and more antagonists to the Big Daddy themselves. The Songbird was nowhere near the same thing as a Big Daddy, and didn't really instill the same kind of feelings, probably because there was only one, and until the end of the game, it was used more as a set piece than an enemy to fight.

Shiken2020d ago

Another Bioshock game could jeopardize the franchise...

No new Bioshock means the franchise is dead...

If something is dead then there is nothing jeopardize...

If there is nothing to risk jeopardizing, there is nothing to gain...

If there is something to risk, then the IP lives...

Take a risk, save a life.

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Istanbul based developer teases new game based on Turkish mythology

Shadowfall Studios have announced via X.com the studio is now an official PlayStation partner.

darksky5h ago

https://www.shadowfallstudi...

Looks like a Skyrim clone. Very interesting if done well.

Laskin4h ago

Since it’s Turkish, the “myth” is probably the Armenian holocaust :(

Laskin3h ago

Ask Turkish ppl and you’ll find out it’s not so dumb… almost all of them (91%) still deny it to this day.

Cacabunga1h ago

You are not so clever.. you are calling a war from the first quarter of 1900 as mythology.. really shows how well informed you are.

The war was triggered by secularist nationalist government they had back then.. don’t see why actual Turkish population should be held responsible for..

Stay on topic, which is video games.. politics and history are too complicated for your likes

Laskin10m ago

I’m not calling it a myth, Turkish ppl say it, you missed the “” part…

Terry_B4h ago

Is there even one good game created in the Turkey so far?

PitbullMonster4h ago

Metin 1&2 and the Mount and Blade Series are the most known ones.

Michiel19894h ago

Metin ....how dare you name that in the same sentence with the word "good"

Cacabunga1h ago

Crytek says hi.. learn before posting

Zeke687m ago

"Crytek was founded by the Turkish-German brothers Cevat, Avni and Faruk Yerli in September 1999 in Coburg, Germany."

So he's right, Crysis games are not made IN Turkey... ;)

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Is 2K Games actually making FIFA 25, the next “best” entry yet?

FIFA president Gianni Infantino teases the future of FIFA games in a brand-new interview, and NBA 2K24 studio 2K Games might be behind it.

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Cacabunga1d 5h ago (Edited 1d 5h ago )

I truly hope so.. day one buy

Ninver1d 4h ago

Time for a change. Football games haven't evolved much.

Cacabunga1d 3h ago

It’s tough when there is no competition

Abear2121h ago

There’s PES and now we’ll have FC25 and FIFA so yes, but it is no longer true, shit is about to get real!

Now if we only had two viable options for Basketball and American football we’d be on to something.

MrNinosan16h ago

@Abear21
PES didn't exist since 2020, and the rebranded eFootball is crap.

porkChop13h ago

If what we've heard is true, the reason FIFA games don't change is literally because of FIFA itself rejecting nearly every pitch for new features and mechanics.

anast1d 3h ago (Edited 1d 3h ago )

The barber shop and roulette wheel are going to be awesome.

Abear2121h ago

Pay to win is the new free to play

CrimsonWing691d 2h ago (Edited 1d 2h ago )

It’ll be monetized to all hell, regardless

StormSnooper1d 1h ago (Edited 1d 1h ago )

Hmmm, let’s see how they do. If they riddle it with microtransactions, hell no. Otherwise, I’m excited.

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Sorry George Miller, but you’re wrong about the Mad Max game

George Miller expressed dismay toward the 2015 Mad Max game recently, but Avalanche Studios' take on the lore is still so good to this day.

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lelo2play1d 20h ago

Mad Max is a good game... George Miller should STFU.

Old_Scout19h ago

He didn't say it wasn't good. Maybe you should take your own advice and look past the articles misleading headline. Here's the actual quote. “wasn’t as good as we wanted it to, it wasn’t in our hands.” That is all he said about it.

S2Killinit16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

In my opinion the guy himself Is pretty mediocre, so I dont like how he talks as if he’s something special. I dont think he would know a good game if it hit him in the face.

StormSnooper15h ago(Edited 15h ago)

If George Miller had good taste he wouldn’t be wearing those ridiculous glasses.

-Foxtrot1d 15h ago

I think the funny thing is if Kojima made a Mad Max game it would be so trippy and "out there" I don't think it would feel like Mad Max by the time he's done with it. This is why he's better off with original new IPs.

Kojima seems like a buzz word these film directors use because he's probably the only big name they've heard from the gaming industry.

Wretchedstain1d 10h ago

Article is correct in my opinion, Miller is wrong. That Death Stranding II trailer is bonkers, looking forward to that in itself.

And I agree, unless Mr Kojima wants to change his tune, or laughably, be told what to do, you're right, it wouldn't be Mad Max or close.

porkChop1d 10h ago

Yup, Kojima really doesn't suit Mad Max. Avalanche did a great job though. It looked, felt, and played like what I'd expect from a Mad Max game. I really enjoyed my time with it, and the sand storms were handled incredibly well.

jznrpg17h ago

I think Kojima could definitely make a great Mad Max game.

SubtilizZer14h ago

I disagree… I don’t want to see Kojima do Mad Max or whatever… But I disagree with your take. Kojima is first a huge fan of film. I think saying he wouldn’t be able to stick to the lore of the world that was built is kinda crazy.

I’m sure he would be able to stick to the creative confines of the source material fairly well. Chances are he’s a huge fan.

I’m sure he’s a bit of a”buzzword” sure but I’m willing to bet it’s mutual respect for his work as well.

TheGamingHounds1d 9h ago

I never played it but the recent buzz around Mad Max has piqued my interest. Will check it out this year for sure

maelstromb1d 8h ago (Edited 1d 8h ago )

MM is not a perfect game by any means as it was held back by lots of repetitious, standard open-world copy and paste missions, but the devs SO perfectly captured the world, atmosphere, lore and brutality. It also just so happens to boast one of THE best photo modes out there and some of the most impressive explosions I've ever seen in a game to date. The car combat is of course another impressive standout, both vicious and fun. MM is a game which I have revisited multiple times since its release, and now having just seen Furiosa, I can feel it calling me back again.

There's a ton to love there, but I think you'll pickup on the areas where the devs struggled likely due to reigning in the scope, budget and time constraints, leading to an incredibly fun, albeit uneven experience. Though, as mentioned, it's absolutely a game worth experiencing once, and I truly hope you enjoy it. The game really does deserve a sequel.

victorMaje1d 7h ago

Word for word. Exactly this. A lot of fun to be had in there. A true Mad Max game. Sequel can’t come soon enough.

gigoran822h ago

and the fact that they originally had an American voice actor until everyone kicked up a big stink about it?

maelstromb1d 8h ago

Honestly, Kojima would do the game justice, but given his studio's current workload, it's a bit far flung. I could much rather see Bend Studios (Days Gone dev) doing a Mad Max follow-up. I'm playing through DG right now for the first time and I see lots of similarities between the games to where imo Bend could develop an impressive MM sequel.

jznrpg17h ago

Bend does makes sense. But I’d rather they made Days Gone 2 (no multiplayer of course) as I really like the motorcycle and the hordes of zombies was a lot of fun.

VersusDMC1d 8h ago

While i like the Mad Max game and think it's underrated...i don't know why people are mad at George Miller for not liking the game based on the IP he created. Especially since a lot of people hated it at release as well looking at that 69% metacritic.

-Foxtrot1d 3h ago

I think the issue is the studio was told by higher ups and most likely himself to make something linear yet when they got a first look at it they didn’t like it and wanted something open world

The head guy was basically like “you’ve just hired an open world dev and forced them to do a linear game yet now you want open world which has just wasted a year of development which we could have done from the start”

I think that’s why people are p****** because of the context the lead dev at Avalanche has given us.

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