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Microsoft has a hit on its hands with Xbox Game Pass, and analysts are starting to notice

Back in 2013 when Microsoft unveiled its Xbox One and the promise of an always connected and primarily digital gaming experience, the company was roundly mocked and panned for its seemingly overreaching ambitions. While Microsoft's Xbox Game Pass isn't quite the cloud-based initiative proposed during the Xbox One unveiling, or like Sony's actual cloud-based solution with PS Now, its implementation does offer Microsoft a platform expansion that should worry competitors.

DarkVoyager2021d ago (Edited 2021d ago )

I would take this more serious if the source were not onmsft.com

Although I agree that Gamepass is a very good service. Especially the fact that all games are played natively for only $9.99 a month. Makes PS Now look pale in comparison.

Srhalo2021d ago (Edited 2021d ago )

PSNow offers 750 games you can stream to console or PC and around 25% more games to download than Game Pass. Plus you can play PSNow games online for free unlike Game Pass which still requires Live.

I don't think that "looks pale" in anyway.

DarkVoyager2021d ago (Edited 2021d ago )

“PSNow offers 750 games you can stream“

Keyword “stream”

With Gamepass all of the games can be downloaded and played natively. Most games on PS Now are PS3 games which can’t be downloaded. On top of that game pass is cheaper on a monthly basis.

So yes PS Now pales in comparison to Gamepass.

averagejoe262021d ago

@dark

You can download games from PS Now.

DarkVoyager2021d ago

@averagejoe26

“You can download games from PS Now.”

Except PS3 games which make up the majority of PS Now games.

Srhalo2021d ago

@DarkVoyager

There are over 225 PS4 games to download and another 35 or more PS2 games. PSNow has a lot more downloadable games than Game Pass.

It's funny because when you guys talk about MS streaming it's all like yay!! Microsoft is going to be streaming, while Sony is already doing it and has been for years.

InKnight7s2021d ago (Edited 2021d ago )

I am Sony fan and I supported, loved every PS device and considered them as gems, but the truth must be told, streaming games isn't efficient yet because not everybody can have strong connections too steadily streaming games + its so limited to certain reigons.

While gamepass is straight forward service for anyone and everywhere only for $9.99 which is intant PS Now killer for now.

Sony shows the desire to support Cloud from very start and I assume they spent a lot of money on it thats why they are not letting it go and another reason is PS3 games.

yomfweeee2021d ago

Dark Voyager, just another misinformed Xbot.

PS now has over 200 DOWNLOADABLE PS4 games.

Game Pass only has 150 X1.

PS Now has about 400 more additional streaming games.

PS Now smokes Game Pass.

thexmanone2021d ago

you forgot that it cost twice as much

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Srhalo2021d ago

@ImGumbyDammit

Gamepass has 3 games from 2017 Sea of Thieves, State of Decay and Forza Horizon and two of those games are hardly what most people would call quality, games that were panned by critics for being 50% of a game and being buggy.

And there are over 250 downloadable games and many of them are less than three years old AAA games, but of course you haven't even looked at the list.

And of course your back to talking BS about artifacts and latency and all the other BS people call you out about over and over again. Quit lying.

SierraGuy2021d ago (Edited 2021d ago )

It's ok let him have his moment.

I wonder what they'll say when PS5 is announced with PS3 backwards compatibility due to an onboard chip for emulation at a hardware level allowing PS3 downloads.

Twice the price you say? It's worth it and games don't disappear like on game pass.

Then what?

I'll tell you game over game pass.

Only reason MS is putting anything behind game pass is to cover their lack of games this gen.

Period.

DarkVoyager2021d ago (Edited 2021d ago )

@Srhalo

“There are over 225 PS4 games to download and another 35 or more PS2 games. PSNow has a lot more downloadable games than Game Pass.”

That doesn’t change the fact that no PS3 games can be downloaded which is around 390 at the moment. PS4 exclusives also aren’t on the service at launch. On top of all that it cost twice as much as Gamepass monthly.

BlackTar1872021d ago

The only real problem with PSnow is the price. They need to address that

darthv722021d ago

Wait... you can play online games for free on psnow? Since when?

Online play on ps4 requires paid ps+, unless you mean only for pc players???

IRetrouk2021d ago (Edited 2021d ago )

@darth
Yes you can play ps now multiplayer without a ps plus sub.

Quote from playstation website

Multiplayer on PlayStation Now

If a game includes online multiplayer modes, you'll be able to access these just as you would if you owned the game on disc or download, meaning you can play fellow PlayStation Now players as well as those playing disc or download versions of the game. A PS Plus membership is not required for PS Now multiplayer.

BLow2021d ago (Edited 2021d ago )

And to all the people saying PSNow is so expensive, they offer a yearly pass for $99. That $8.25 cents a month. Yes I know that you can't cancel it every month but that's still the price. I mean you guys are bragging about this superior service so obviously you're paying that $10 an month for the entire year right? Maybe I can't add but doesn't that add up to $120.

Both let's keep that narrative going. You complained about not having downloadable games. PSNow now has it. Now you moved the goalposts. Remember crossplay. Now it's crickets since Sony now allows it. You fanboys just like talking crap about bullet points on your list. Seriously, how long did we hear about crossplay now you don't even mention it even more lol. That's why I don't take anything any of you say seriously because all y'all do is stir up trouble. I'm not even going to waste my time anymore. And somehow xCloud is superior to PSNow and none of you have even tried it. That's where we are at now....I'm out. Have fun boys....same crap different day....

DJStotty2020d ago

@srhalo

regarding your commenting regarding game pass games.

"Gamepass has 3 games from 2017 Sea of Thieves, State of Decay and Forza Horizon and two of those games are hardly what most people would call quality, games that were panned by critics for being 50% of a game and being buggy. "

You forgot about the latest release of forza horizon 4 (2018)
Hello Neighbour (2018)

and that doesnt include future msoft game releases and any other 3rd party that add their game

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

Lets state a fact, game pass currently has 203 fully downloadable games for £7.99 a month (as per official link above)

alb18992020d ago

750 games that are the majority PS3 games and the others have been free on PSN plus.
Gamepass has and will have all the new games.

yomfweeee2020d ago

Now that your PSNow can't download games defense has been shredded, you're complaining about the price? You're still ignoring that it has more than twice as many games? It has better games since we know Sony is the king of exclusives. All titles can be played on PC via streaming as well and only a handful of Gamepass games can be played on PC.

Keep up with your excuses. Gamepass is nothing special.

Flewid6382020d ago (Edited 2020d ago )

I don't see myself ever owning an Xbox so I cant make the comparison, but I can't say PS Now is good either. None of the PS3 games I actually want to play are on it.

Once the library is beefed up I'll be happy, but most of the masterpieces on there I've played already.

battlegrog2020d ago

ps now technically is horrible and sony is not investing in it. It absolutely can not compete with what these big companies are developing for proper modern streaming tech. Sure you can play some single player games that runs ok but its not smooth or high res and online is a joke.

Antarius7172020d ago

When I was looking into it the games only stream at 720p. It’s been a year or so and that’ may have changed but streamiing a game is a garbage way to play. Xbox pass is a much better service

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Team_Litt2021d ago

Don't ruin this by bringing Sony into it. It diminishes the actual good and also brings in a whole lot of negative attention.

Flewid6382020d ago

Playing bad games natively is better than streaming good games online?

On what planet? lol

TheOtherMoon2020d ago (Edited 2020d ago )

Yeah...Forza Horizon 4 is a terrible game...so was Wolfenstein, and Rocket League, GoW Series, Fallout 3/4, The Halo Series of games...just all terrible games.

rainslacker2020d ago (Edited 2020d ago )

I don't know if other people need to be worried about it as this article says. MS doesn't exactly entice the PC player that much, and the Xbox console is still has low marketshare compared to the PS, and Nintendo is overtaking them.

Plus, it'd be easy enough for the competitors to implement something similar. We already see Sony offering PS4 games available for download, although that's not applicable to PC.

I don't think Sony is going to start putting its high profile games on PSNow day one for download though. At least not anytime soon. Maybe for streaming, but that might even be a while.

This is just another one of those analysts taking notice because they see that it's a good service and value, but ignore a lot of other market factors which make it not as good as it seems. Plus, I don't know how they can judge the success of the service, since MS doesn't actually release any numbers.

I think if Sony had done PSNow like it's doing now, when it was first introduced, or at least when they added the PS4 games, then it probably would have been more popular. No one expected day one high profile exclusives on a service like these, so it's nice that MS has them, but i'm still doubtful that they can maintain that level of quality on their high profile games if they keep putting them on GamePass. There isn't enough margin when you consider all the other content they have to pay for to put on the service, which means they'd have to have a substantial number of subs to actually make the same money they could just selling the game outright.

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CarlDechance2021d ago

Why? It is a kick ass service.

Team_Litt2021d ago

Oh yeah real surprised to hear that! /s

Team_Litt2021d ago

Game Pass is a no brainer. And with Microsoft Studios acquisitions still coming it's only going to get more attractive.

Can't believe I get full access to FH4 for so little money! Who* can be mad at that?

*not you, you don't count.

Sunny_D2021d ago

And with Microsoft Studios acquisitions still coming it's only going to get more attractive.

I mean that doesn’t automatically mean the games will be good, not to mention they won’t be out for a few years.

RizBiz2021d ago

If history has taught us anything (which it obviously hasn't for some... -_-), the acquisitions will result in the studios being shut down before their games are completed.

Imortus_san2020d ago

@RizBiz
If history has taught us anything (which it obviously hasn't for some... -_-), is that PS3 was responsible for a Ton of studios being shut down, inform yourself.

rainslacker2020d ago

"Can't believe I get full access to FH4 for so little money!"

I hate to say it, but comment like these sound like they're made by those spam bots we see around here.

That being said, If you only want to play the game for a few months, then yeah, it's worth subbing to for that game. But if you intend to play it longer, like more than 6 months, then I'd say just buy it. That's what I did.

OTOH, if you see other games on there that can keep your interest, then it's certainly worth the cost right now.

It is a good service.

polow got sol2021d ago

Tried to tell ya. Aw shucks what am I doin here back to real 4k gaming I go.

King_Noctis2021d ago

Once all MS’s first party studios start to release more games, this service is gonna get even better.

CarlDechance2021d ago

I agree. All MS games will be on Game Pass and on Windows 10. Can't wait to see what they have in store.

Team_Litt2021d ago

I feel like I've seen you mention windows PC only in Microsoft exclusive games articles enough times to start questioning whether or not you actually game "primarily on pc."
Mind sharing your Xbox gamertag so we can take a gander at all these game pass games you enjoy on your pc because I'm kinda suspecting you are full of it mate.

crazyCoconuts2021d ago

Can't wait? I'd think loyal Xbox fans are masters of patience.. those first party games are gonna take a while.

King_Noctis2021d ago (Edited 2021d ago )

@crazycoconut

Are you saying the PS fans don’t have to wait long for the next exclusive too? Because last time I check, the next big PS exclusives won’t hit until end of April next year, which is half a year from now. The next X1 exclusives comes out in February next year mind you.

timotim2021d ago

@crazyCoconuts

What I find hilarious is you think CarlDechance is an Xbox fan 🤣🤣🤣.

RosweeSon2021d ago

Crackdown 3 that is all nothing for another 6-12 months and they already 4 years into a generation poor

CarlDechance2021d ago (Edited 2021d ago )

@Team_Litt

First, no, I'm not about to post my gamertag to the world. That would not be wise. Second, if I felt the need to prove that I game primarily on PC, my gamertag would not be adequate as that I obviously do not play most games via Game Pass. Third, I've played Gears 3, Record, State of Decay 2, and Forza Horizon 4. I don't have significant hours in any of those as I've been playing other games which is why I am excited about some possibly new stuff on Windows 10. Thankfully, I pay for Game Pass via Microsoft Rewards and I'm not out any actual funds. Ah....but that is what I can show you. My recent Game Pass renewal via Rewards.

https://imgur.com/a/9KJNU4p

That doesn't really prove that I game "primarily" on PC, but again, I don't really have to. My saying that I do will have to suffice.

Finally, I don't get the suspicion. Do you suspect all those who say they are playing their games on Xbox One X to be lying? I've never seen you question them.

@timotim

I'm a regular Xbox fanboy. Didn't you know? :-)

CarlDechance2021d ago (Edited 2021d ago )

Note: In the image I posted, I overlaid one browser over another so as to show my posts here and the Game Pass order. Also, in the list of games, Record is suppose to be Recore.

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Chevalier2021d ago

" Are you saying the PS fans don’t have to wait long for the next exclusive too? Because last time I check, the next big PS exclusives won’t hit until end of April next year, which is half a year from now. The next X1 exclusives comes out in February next year mind you."

What exactly is your point? Its half a year for Xbox next 'big' exclusive as well. That aside I am not sure how you can even compare exclusives. PS4 owners have no worries about when exclusives show up. The quality is unmatched when you wait and end up with SoT, Forza and State of Decay 2 then look over and PS4 gets GoW, MLB and Spiderman its clear the there's a huge disparity in quality. Also PS4 gets far more 3rd party exclusives like Persona 5, Kingdom Hearts, Yakuza, VR etc to fill in the gaps.

So even if there is a bit of a wait PS4 has MLB, Medievil, Days Gone, God Eater, Yakuza and a lot more exclusives already populating next years calender whereas Xbox has what Crackdown 3 followed by what exactly?

" Once all MS’s first party studios start to release more games, this service is gonna get even better."

'Better'? That has yet to be seen. The last slate of Xbox 1st party has not incited confidence.

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Flewid6382020d ago

That's all it'll take for me to actually buy my 1st Xbox. I hope they do this.

Chevalier2020d ago (Edited 2020d ago )

@Shaggy

I own all the systems including and Xbox One. This year has been awful in terms of 1st party games for Xbox. SoT and SoD2 weren't great and Forza is great, but, not everyone plays driving games so my Xbox is collecting dust. PS4 and Switch have had great games all year. The Switch isn't even 2 years old and there are MORE exclusives than Xbox heading into their 6th year and you might not see that as an issue I do however.

So maybe you're under the impression I only own a PS4 which is factually wrong. Having worked at EB/ Gamestop for 10 years I own all the systems launched since then. I just don't agree that Xbox just have to release more games they need more quality games period. I don't agree with Kingnoctis that MS are going to be fine. They need to prove it. A service doesn't change that fact. Its year 6 and where are these games?! Nintendo is tracking ahead of MS and they're only just getting started. What the heck has MS been doing all this time? Sleeping under a rock? If Nintendo could release so many games in only 2 years whats MS excuse for their year 6?!

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Microsoft's Absurd Antics Have Me Scared For Dishonored And Arkane Lyon's Future

With Arkane Austin no more and Lyon living for who knows how long, the superb Dishonored is in serious danger; Microsoft cannot be trusted.

Relientk7710h ago

I love the Dishonored series so much and really want Dishonored 3. Microsoft better not screw this up.

JEECE7h ago

I mean, I think the fans will probably kill Arkane Lyon by cooking up reasons to hate whatever they do next without playing it. I've never seen a game so artificially disliked as Deathloop.

thesoftware7307h ago

Lol, why don't we just say, we are worried about all studios owned by MS now. They will keep closing studios until they have none left ...🙄

Skuletor4h ago

Just merge them all into a single studio, have it churn out a single Call of Duty every year and call it a day, lol.

Barlos4h ago

Don't be scared, you'll be fine.

Skuletor4h ago

It's exputer, fine is one word I would not associate with them.

Profchaos3h ago

I think it's becoming clear based on matt bootys comments there's no future for any IP that can't sell above 10 million within the launch window. But is also a small game that gives them prestige

/S it's beyond a joke right now

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Rumored PlayStation May 2024 showcase could happen this week per industry insider

A renowned industry insider has suggested the rumored PlayStation May 2024 showcase featuring Silent Hill 2 could happen this week.

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Petebloodyonion9h ago

Bogus!
Why would Sony do that and how would this benefit them?
1) It would piss off their media partners (IGN, Gamespot, Edge, etc.) since they would have to allocate resources fast to cover the event.
2) Risk of not having great coverage or proper coverage from the various source
3) It could give the impression that they are not confident in their own stuff.
4) They would miss the chance to hype the event losing viewers and losing free marketing time.

Again I'm calling it bogus unless it's a small showcase before the big one or because they want to announce that Hellbalde 2 is also coming on PS5.

SlothLordPootus8h ago

As far as I can remember, they typically give a week heads up for these sorts of things.

Lightning778h ago

I was about to say Sony always gives a week in advance for their show.

VersusDMC8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Last year it was a weeks notice.

https://blog.playstation.co...

May 17th announcement for may 24th show.

VersusDMC7h ago

Nintendo always tweets that a direct is happening tomorrow but no one cares.

Sony gives a week or days of notice and we get anti sony type fake outrage like this.

But good luck trying trying to get some Sony hate going...

Petebloodyonion7h ago

You just mention it!
Sony gives a week in advance NOT just a couple of days.
So I fail to see what Sony's hate movement I'm trying to start when it's a basic business strategy to not piss off your partners (ask Sega).
And I doubt it's hate to ask how it would benefit Sony in doing so.

thesoftware7307h ago(Edited 7h ago)

@Versus
Huh? What?

Bro you really should relax, if what you read was some kinda negative against Sony.... seriously, is that what you got from the comments?

Bro, he was debunking the rumor, and gave perfectly good reasons why it would be unlikely, and your Nintendo Direct comparison is different, as this is supposed to be a BIG Sony showcase, not a surprise 20 min direct, and Sony 's pattern has been one week.

Slow down warmonger.

VersusDMC6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

@thesoftware730

"1) It would piss off their media partners (IGN, Gamespot, Edge, etc.) since they would have to allocate resources fast to cover the event."

That is implying Sony is preventing them from doing their job properly therefore negatively affecting their business...but i guess that's a reach in your mind?

And it's not like they need that many resources to cover the stream. They just need 3 people to react to the stream live and make some easy articles made up mostly of summaries of Sony provided press releases. They would have enough time to "prepare" if it was announced with one days notice.

Petebloodyonion5h ago

@Versus
" That is implying Sony is preventing them from doing their job properly therefore negatively affecting their business...but i guess that's a reach in your mind"

No, it simply implies that some media all over the world might (keyword MIGHT) not properly cover the event like having proper articles for each game announced, or having a proper preshow. maybe some popular YouTubers won't have time to prepare or simply your local newspaper doing an article on tech and game.

So why would Sony take a chance?
What benefit would that give them?

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Petebloodyonion7h ago

Before I get tons of replies for Sony given a week in advance, my initial comments are related to the notion that the Show could happen this week as the title mentions.
Now to be fair the complete article mentions that Jeff said the Show could happen later in May giving time for Sony to give the normal 7-day notice.

Again not trying to start a negative thing here just thinking that it's bogus that Sony will have a show this week

notachance6h ago

Yeah as much as I’d like to hear what sony’s 1st parties have cooked, it’s not their style to shadow drop a showcase.

Still waiting for ghost of tsushima 2, I’m ready whenever man..

KwietStorm_BLM2h ago

You're assuming media outlets don't know about it.

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Hofstaderman6h ago

Going in with no expectations but likely will see something that resonates with me.

DeadlyFire1h ago

Nah they will announce it probably, but it won't happen right away soon though yes.

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Square Is Shifting Strategy To Aggressively Pursue Multiplat Releases,Focus On Quality Over Quantity

Square Enix is shifting its strategy to aggressively pursue multiplatform releases and focus on quality over quantity.

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CantThinkOfAUsername1d 1h ago

Yup, it's official. FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth didn't sell as much as they expected.

gold_drake23h ago

read the report, where exactly does it say what u just said ? lol

TheEroica9h ago

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt for some gamers.... 🤣

Barlos22h ago

It's your interpretation. That doesn't make it 'official'.

CantThinkOfAUsername14h ago

- 1% increase in net sales compared to a year with Forspoken and Octopath Traveller II, which didn't sell more than 3 millions combined (and I'm being generous).

- A 38.3% decrease in operating income despite the release of 'High-Definition' titles namely FFXVI, FF Pixels Remaster, Dragon Quest Monsters, and FFVII Rebirth.

- Aggressive multiplatform strategy one year after saying that exclusivity with PlayStation was mutually desired.

Sure, it's all in my head.

Sonic188118h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Probably for PC and the upcoming Nintendo Switch 2. Square Enix games doesn't sell to well on Xbox

Extermin8or3_18h ago

Nothing sells well on Xbox that's precisely Microsoft's problem

The3faces17h ago

Apparently they don't sell well on PlayStation either.

Lightning7716h ago

Square named Drops Xbox as part of their multiplatform approach in their quarterly reports.

Like it matters MS will probably find away to close them down to.

FinalFantasyFanatic7h ago

I can see them going for PS5/Switch/PC for the most part, it'll mostly likely be the Switch 2 by the time their next game enters development, which is probably a good thing since the Switch is struggling with 3rd party games. If they're hurting for money/sales, I don't see them bothering with Xbox, that's just wasted time/money for them.

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DarXyde18h ago

I mean, maybe? They'll want as much as possible and I figure they could have been hoping for greater impact on PlayStation, but that's good reason to reflect and realize the resources and development cycle of these games aren't very sustainable. The solution is to make more affordable games with shorter dev cycles, then once in a while bring out the big guns.

I think Final Fantasy VII Re make and Rebirth would do really well if it was multiplatform. Specifically, if Nintendo gets their hardware up to snuff, and the rumors are promising. I don't really have much faith in its performance on Xbox, but Nintendo gamers really commit to buying their games. At one point, Breath of the Wild for Switch outsold the Switch itself.

Granted, Zelda always solos everything except GTA, but Nintendo folk are avid Final Fantasy fans. I think it would do exceptionally. Nintendo just needs to make porting easy and inexpensive and they'll get more games.

FinalFantasyFanatic7h ago

I don't think the exclusivity hurts them as badly as they think, I think it's a range of factors, like the quality of the games, high sales expectations, ESG/DEI, censorship, development costs/time... I also suspect that Square-Enix is extremely inefficient with their resources, they struggled/avoided towns in the FF13 trilogy, and FF14 was mostly wilderness with little to do apart from derp about in the wild (they also avoid towns and making a lot of characters there too). But FF14 also went through development hell, I think Square-Enix just needs to overall how they do everything, because the way they manage that studio just isn't working.

Christopher16h ago

The two most profitable games for them didn't sell as much as expected. Yes. Make it make sense.

MrCrimson14h ago

I interpret it as - they want to be multiplatform, as they will sell more copies.

EternalTitan12h ago

16 isnt even a JRPG let alone a final fantasy game.
So glad that it bombed.

itsmebryan9h ago

Square finally realized what Sony figured out recently, their installed base is not enough. We are going to see a lot less exclusives from everyone moving forward.

MajorLazer3h ago

PS5 is nearly at 60 million only half-way through its life-cycle, but sure, the install base is not enough.

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CrashMania1d ago (Edited 1d ago )

Hopefully the next Nintendo system isn't a potato and it can contribute to FF sales in future as well, in addition to PC releases. If this ensures the long term health for SE and franchises than like FF and KH then I'm all for it.

NotoriousWhiz23h ago

Adding Nintendo and PC customers is the best way to increase sales and long term success. Not going to get that from Xbox.

shinoff218319h ago

Hopefully square brings all the lose switch exclusives over to.

Hofstaderman23h ago

Will there be a XBOX for Square to release games on? Or a MS Games service?

thesoftware73021h ago

Hof,

You must not have heard they are launching new hardware and have already committed to a Next-Gen Xbox.

But, for some reason, I think you already knew that and wanted to spin a silly narrative; besides, why wouldn't they release games on the SX/SS? You do know these consoles will still be here, right?

Hofstaderman20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Optics. They have a STATED plan to do so. Thats not commitment. The shareholders and board are calling the shots now. Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already. Investment in hardware, R and D and marketing is how much again? That cost with the history of their hardware performance....at most maybe a handheld. What I am certain of XBOX is finished, the writing has been on the wall before the studio closures. Its MS Games and they are not hardware. They are software because MS is a software company. Expect them to be folded in the Surface team.

DarXyde18h ago

*hardware

I believe they committed to hardware.

I hate to nitpick, but that's kind of the company they are. You have to.

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Michiel198913h ago

@hofstaderman the board and shareholders have always called the shots or had a huge impact on decisions.

Xbox finished lmao, the writing has been on the wall? mate they just spend 70 BILLION dollars, and you see the writing is on the wall that they're done. 0 idea what you're talking about. They grafiti'd on the wall and you still can't see it.

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Aloymetal19h ago

No to both, not worth the effort, money and time on an already dying brand.

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thesoftware73019h ago

"They have a STATED plan to do so. That's not commitment."

Huh? What are you talking about? They announced they would be unveiling new Hardware this holiday season; how else are they supposed to commit to it?

" Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already"

What a silly statement, you think this deal was approved so they could make 80 billion in less than a year? This is a long-term commitment, a future-proofing of profit.

"What I am certain of XBOX is finished,"

No, you are not certain of this lol; as you stated, if they make even a Handheld in the form of a Steam-Deck that can dock to a TV/monitor, wouldn't that be just changing the form factor but still XBOX?

Closing these studios has really got you guys delusional; that is what happens in companies, in a changing market: you acquire, and you trim; like it or not, that is the way things are done. Lets look.

Where is the new Psygnosis with a new wipeout?
What happened to Japan Studio? Pixl Opus? London Studio?
Where is Zipper Interactive?

I can list more, but you see, closing devs doesn't mean your company is finished, especially when you have like 30+ dev teams.

Extermin8or3_18h ago

They won't be unveiling the hardware this holiday season it will be like the series x and s they got a tease at the game awards 2018. But no details until year of their release in 2020 lol

Relientk7723h ago

Please tell me the Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is still coming. I feel like I've been waiting forever for that game.

gold_drake18h ago

i think the juggernauts kingdom hearts (disney provides the money for that one) final fantasy and dragon quest are fine, the rest not as much

Michiel198912h ago

I'm kinda worried about the future of DQ though, Toriyama and the composer both passed away. Huge blow to the franchise.

FinalFantasyFanatic7h ago

@Michiel1989,
Akira Toriyama had an understudy though, he emulates his style, so maybe he'll do the art for Dragon Quest games, I would love to see Nobue Uematsu do music for the series though, that could be fun if they could convince him.

FinalFantasyFanatic7h ago

I'll be so p*ssed if that doesn't go ahead, also, where's DQ12 at? They've been silent on that for so long, and it was announced years ago.

@gold_Drake,
I'm pretty sure they can siphon some profit from A Realm Reborn to keep FF and Dragon Quest going too. I think the company would have gone bankrupt if it wasn't for that cash cow.

gold_drake3h ago

14 is definitely brings in the a consistant cashflow

Charal23h ago(Edited 23h ago)

Another sign that dedicated consoles market is in trouble, while PC seems more and more attractive to big publishers.

Having a good gaming PC and a PS5 myself, given current trend form both Sony and MS I am less and less playing on PS5, waiting for exclusives to release on PC, so I understand the logic behind the new strategy.

anast22h ago

Post those numbers. Then your comment might make sense.

thesoftware73021h ago(Edited 21h ago)

Ants,

I get that we don't know exactly without numbers, but come on, man, we can clearly see what's happening.

The console market has not grown much, the highest-selling console in history is still the PS2. You can play the " prove it" game all you want, but Sony's more aggressive PC push, SE completely rebooting their company/business, after being mainly exclusive to one console and showing a sizeable profit loss is telling.

PC is a high seller, and your doubtful PS5 dominant stance does not change the clear writing on the wall, straight from Sony's mouth, that they need to be, and will be more aggressive in the very lucrative PC market.

So, in other words, PC market is indeed looking more and more attractive to Pubs.

anast20h ago

@730

Numbers?

I'm willing to bet the farm that ¨PC gamers are not the dominate number compared to console, but I don't know because I don't have numbers. However, the price point of entry can allow us to infer what I had just stated.

anast16h ago

I don't click on links on forums. Tell me why that .com source is legit.

Tacoboto14h ago

What an ironic thing to say on a link-agreggate site like N4G. Explains your comment history perfectly.

Michiel198912h ago

asks for numbers. receives numbers and then continues to say I don't wanna click a website (because it might shatter my illusion)

anast10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

@All the people with that good 'ol folk wisdom

It's ironic how I clearly asked for the site and people still can't even answer this simple question.

Tell me how many people click on random links on forums?

Tell me the site and I will look. I don't mind being wrong and I'm barely intelligent enough to change my mind with something substantial.

All the numbers I have seen is that PC doesn't even come close console gaming in revenue, and nothing touches mobile gaming. More people touching something doesn't mean anything. It just means more people own PC for work and touch Steam every now and again, those numbers mean even less.

Charal3h ago

Anast I wasn’t expecting more from you and I haven’t be disappointed.

Don’t believe any number if you want, but things cannot be more evident that most of games companies are pushing to get the most they can from PC market.

Hell, we have both MS and Sony that are releasing their biggest franchise on PC with no or less and less delay vs console release, that is never seen before in the industry.

What is surprising me is that PC is not cheap in term of hardware cost, a rig close to PS5/XBX perfs may be close to double the price I guess, and close to 4x for a good gaming PC.
Plus, PC gaming does not have physical release anymore.

So a lot of supposed advantages from console market are not there but PC market is successful anyway, it would be very interesting to understand it.
Maybe one big argument is that we are more likely to need a PC at home, were we can work with, browse, and game, than a dedicated gaming machine. That why handled console market have been crushed by smartphones, we could see a repeating pattern here.

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Babadook710h ago

From what I can ascertain PC is a smaller market than PS. There are occasionally times when PC looks to be stronger but overall it's still behind.

FinalFantasyFanatic7h ago

PC also has a lot more competition, especially when people can easily buy and play older games from 20 or so years ago on it.

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