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Sony Confirms Next-Generation PlayStation Hardware Is "Necessary," Surprising No One

Sony's Kenichiro Yoshida confirmed that the release of a next-generation hardware platform is necessary for the PlayStation business.

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Obscure_Observer2038d ago

@PhoenixUp

"Water is wet?"

You wouldn´t belive how many people think that major companies like Sony and Microsoft would leave the console business for an all digital streaming services and games distribution.

jimbost792038d ago

Eventually they will tho mate. Maybe not for 20 years but eventually there will be no need to produce consoles.

JaguarEvolved2037d ago

I can't wait to buy a ps5 day one. Next generation gaming starts when the ps5 is released

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Highlife2037d ago

Just go back to the articles before this gen. Mobile gaming, streaming, oya where all the doom of traditional gaming consoles.

neutralgamer19922037d ago

Holiday 2019

February-March 2019 reveal than full reveal E3 2019

Make way too much sense for them not to release it next year. Business wise 2020 nes no sense as that's when nevt Xbox would launch too

Sony put itself in great position to launch in 2019 by launching ps4 pro a year before Xbox x. If yall think launching early doesn't have the best affect than look at Xbox 360. By launching the Ps5 in holiday 2019 Sony will have all the market to itself and ms would play catch up while next Gen

I know I will get a lot of disagrees but I have facts backing up my claims

Sony went out of its way to announce before this year's E3 of no new hardware announcement

Sony cancelled PSX because whatever they wanted to show on ps4 has been shown meaning no new exclusives to announce

Sony could have delayed the pro and matched or surpassed Xbox x specs but longterm business wise it made no sense

Ps5 could launch at $499 and won't make a big difference because that's next Gen and by the time next Xbox comes drop the price to undercut

Vizigoth042037d ago

Yeah that's just dumb. The answer should be, if Mobile platform is indeed the way ahead then Sony or Microsoft for that matter should be smart enough to make sure the user base of their platform and software is well established on on their own specific mobile device before cutting off the console. But at the same time if even with the existence of a Mobile device if console sales are still strong they should remain. I mean I really don't want to play the next God of War, Horizon Zero Dawn, Spider-Man sequel or The Last of Us 2 on my cellphone. That does not sound immersive what so ever.

darthv722037d ago (Edited 2037d ago )

Next generation for PlayStation gaming starts when the ps5 is released.

To be fair, "next generation" already started... for Nintendo anyways.

DarXyde2037d ago

JaguarEvolved,

There are good reasons to not buy a console on day one. You don't know if there will be hardware issues, the launch software is very likely not going to be great, and you don't know the asking price.

Don't be a Guinea pig. Even if it's waiting 2-3 weeks to scope out about issues/ reviews.

CptDville2037d ago

Well, there are many people who think earth is flat. That does not make the argument reasonable.

S2Killinit2037d ago (Edited 2037d ago )

He is saying that because he wants to bundle Sony up with MS even though nobody says Sony is leaving consoles behind, only MS with their focus on services, Gaas, PC, play anywhere, and PR rhetoric leads people to believe that MS doesn’t see the “Console” to be all that integral to their plans for gaming.

Christopher2037d ago

***Next-generation starts when the first console is released***

It's already started. Nintendo put out the Switch.

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darthv722037d ago

@gumby... uhh, that wasn't "highlife"... that was "neutralgamer" that said those things.

agent45322037d ago

It makes business sense for one less costs and able to target everyone not just say 40 million but 1 billion people through a Netflix like service that's readily available on tv, PC, and mobile. The hardware of consoles is dead. Smartphones hardware is as good as latest consoles plus PC hardware is way ahead of what consoles can offer hardware wise.

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n1kki62038d ago

Water makes things wet. Wetness describes our interaction with the water. Water is technically not considered wet.
Source: http://scienceline.ucsb.edu...

TastyTostada2037d ago

You only addressed answer 1. It's a subjective question which relies on how one chooses to approach and perceive the concept. In your own source you just posted, answer 2 says it is:

"If we define "wet" as a sensation that we get when a liquid comes in contact with us, then yes, water is wet to us."

If we define "wet" as "made of liquid or moisture", then water is definitely wet because it is made of liquid, and in this sense, all liquids are wet because they are all made of liquids. I think that this is a case of a word being useful only in appropriate contexts."

It's semantics really. A pointless response.

UltraNova2037d ago

Otter,

Molten metal is liquid as well, molten iron for example...I wouldn't call it "wet" right?. It actually burns everything it comes to contact with so its the far opposite of "wet".

Basically all the definitions you guys mentioned regarding liquids and wet-ness are, well crap in the general scale of things.

sinspirit2037d ago

1. Science explains things differently as science requires different view points and explanations to explain things more precisely, just like medical terminology meaning something other than the general meaning.

2. The first definition on Google - "covered or saturated with water or another liquid". Guess what is saturated with water? Any body of water.

3. Referring back to 1. The bottom of your link gives you the basic run down of three ways of viewing "wet". Even though the other uses of the word exist, one of them still says that water is indeed "wet". So, yes. It is.

4. The fact many are saying water is not wet just shows you how bad social engineering gets. Suddenly everyone starts seeing something differently, second guessing what they knew, and find a reason to believe what they think is the new mass consensus rather than upholding their prior thoughts.

5. Why are we so off topic for no reason?

@UltraNova

Wet doesn't mean pleasing, relaxing, or a specified temperature and composition. Just because water is 99% of the time the only liquid you deal with in some form doesn't make the most common word to describe it solely used for it.

If you're referring to an object that gets one of the more extreme liquids poured onto itself. Because of the temperature difference, something hot will cool down, or melt the object. Metal would be too thick to actually soak into something so probably not. And, liquid nitrogen would generally just repel off an object because of the temperature difference. The Leidenfrost effect. You can pour liquid nitrogen on your hand(don't try it) and it will just bounce off and you'll barely feel the cold. But, if you submerge your hand then it's a whole different story. The extreme temperature difference brings in many other factors that tend to prevent wetness but technically those liquids themselves are wet even though they won't soak into everyday materials

TastyTostada2037d ago

@Ultranova "Basically all the definitions you guys mentioned regarding liquids and wet-ness are, well crap in the general scale of things."

The University of California, Santa Barbara has a partnership with the National Science Foundation. ( https://www.nsf.gov/)

n1kki6's article wasn't bad, he only highlighted a portion of it though.

If you're saying that UCSB and the NSF don't know what they're talking about, but you do, well.... okay then...

(sinspirit- well said.)

*And yes, this has gotten WAY off topic, lol.

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Army_of_Darkness2037d ago

I don't think consoles will ever go away just like PC gaming will always need a powerful rig to play current games at their best... Streaming is good for convenience, but definitely not the definitive way to play in terms of achieving highest resolution and performance (fps).

agent45322037d ago

How about downloading games that seems to work very well. Just picture the latest tv set with 8 core processor with built-in thunderbolt port; turn on tv log in to PSN or Xbox Live via the tv app. Boom! Instant gaming and then just download say games to external hard drive or usb stick. See there is no need for consoles. PC gaming still alive due to there is no way to create games right now without a PC.

RobertDsouza2037d ago

They are even "Rumored To be Working on a Tablet Designed for Games and Streaming Multimedia Content" - https://gametransfers.com/s...

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Obscure_Observer2038d ago

Glad to know that console hardware will still play the major role for both Sony and Microsoft.

lxeasy2037d ago

Yeah remember Pacther and others saying this will be the last gen. Lol I knew it wouldn't.

Monkeycan82037d ago

He also said Last Gen (PS3,XB360) would be the last console gen ever in 2007 I believe.

SuperSonic912037d ago

I remeber that . Cliffy B too said mobile is the future and PS4 is DOA. LoL

rainslacker2037d ago

Consoles will easily be around for another 2-3 generations. Maybe more depending on what new techs come to enable home gaming.

Practically speaking, technology always moves forward, and new things to do with those technologies will always be worked on. Just think of how much time console gaming has been on the market. In the grand scheme of things, it has been a relatively short period of time. Just like cell phones, most of us probably can't remember a time where they weren't ubiquitous, yet they have only been in their current state of popularity for less than two decades. That technology itself has changed, and brought new things to the market, which are now expected or wanted. Same will happen with consoles.

Who knows what another 40 years will bring. Whether Sony, Nintendo, and MS will still bel in the console race, or who may join the fray. But I have little doubt that there will always be something akin to a console for the consumer market. At least until we have mandated always connected chips in our brain....which I hopefully won't be around to see.

agent45322037d ago

Oh my god! Game developers have failed to utilize the full potential of PC gaming. Is a shame really for PC gaming already offers the future of gaming. From HDR, VR, high fidelity visuals, next-gen special effects, etc. The mod community has shown time and again the true power of PC gaming. Console hardware is dead and buried and smart tvs already offer the consoles multimedia features. If a smart tv comes with a 8 core processor and built-in thunderbolt then consoles will become irrelevant.

rainslacker2036d ago

Not sure why the power of the PC will somehow have some effect on the console market. And a TV with a built in console? I don't see that happening anytime soon. The cost alone would be really high, and chances are, it won't gain enough market share.

Streaming makes more sense for TV's, and Sony stopped doing that, presemadly since it just wasn't really worth supporting on anything other than console or PC. Maybe the time wasn't right, but as of right now, we can't even get all apps on all TV's, which already segments the market.

Console hardware is still going strong. The idea that it'll disappear anytime soon, or is already "dead and buried" as you say, is a fallacy.

As far as PC, the reason that the devs don't take advantage of it is because it takes a lot of effort to support the wide variety of hardware out there, and the lowest common denominator has always had an effect on the software for it. Developers taking advantage of the PC's power don't see the sales in the software, because they limit their user base. This is why consoles are so popular with developers, because it's a set standard to build to....something MS and Sony have changed with the mid-gens, and they haven't bothered to take full advantage of those mid-gens.

It's not about if they'll take advantage of the hardware though, it's about where people are willing to buy those products, and for the foreseeable future, that's going to be on PC and consoles. There are other gaming markets for mobile or other devices, but they're different markets, and developers and publishers aren't goign to give up a lucrative market of PC and consoles just because there is a bigger market elsewhere....otherwise, this whole gen, and PC would already be dead. Kind of like how last gen we kept hearing how mobile was going to kill the console.

agent45322037d ago

I hope Microsoft shows Sony by coming in with say Xbox Live tv app. All there needs to be done is a tv with a built-in thunderbolt port plus 8 core processor and 4gbs of DDR4 ram. Today's tvs have a 4 core processor not sure about the RAM but everything a console can do minus the games is already possible on a smart tv

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TheGamez1002038d ago

Sweet, course we all knew itd be coming. Just nice to have official word on it.

gigoran2038d ago

biased “writers” make for the worst reading

DreadGara2037d ago

He must be creative to make something out of it.

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20 Best PS1 RPGs of All Time

Cultured Vultures: Where would the PS1 be without RPGs? It’d no doubt still be a massive seller thanks to bandicoots, clones, and halfpipes, but half the cultural institution it is today? We’re not so sure.

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SimpleSlave9h ago

While most of these games are great to amazing, most are not actual RPGs. Faux RPGs if anything. Turn Based Adventure Games for a more apt description, with Diablo, Brave Fence Musashi and Star Ocean as Action Adventure games.

Again, all great games without a doubt.

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It's Time To Stop Giving Xbox Boss Phil Spencer A Pass

Under his leadership, many have lost their jobs and fewer games have made it out the door.

purple10114h ago

people should call for his resignation, he has literally flushed xbox down the toilet.
another 3 studios closed today, thats it now, get out

Tody_ZA13h ago(Edited 13h ago)

Well purple101 you'd have to convince Observer and the other Xbox faithful that these studio closures and the fallout from the acquisitions is a bad thing and a sign of what's to come, and I don't think you're going to do that.

Nobody has managed that feat.

Redgrave12h ago

Obscure and Zeref have been summoned to the floor to give their account of these proceedings.

VenomUK12h ago

I 100% blame 'nice guy Phil' for the death of Xbox. The thing to realise is the Xbox Series S & X are performing WORST in console sales and game sales than the much criticised Xbox One - how can this be?

His two big mistakes were 1-not developing enough exclusives and 2 - always trying to beat PlayStation. If he made more exclusives over his decade reign and not tried to 'win' then classic Xbox would still be here in a profitable third place. Instead he tried a series of different projects to win and he ended up ultimately destroying Xbox by changing its relationship with its most loyal customers. What did he do?

* Phil spent a decade only release new iterations of Halo, Forza and Gears and not investing in creating new first party studios and IP. He mishandled Scalebound and shutdown Lionhead Studios.

* Phil tried Mixer, a streaming channel that could be used to promote Xbox dominance with free giveaways...

* Phil tried to create a streaming service that he regarded as too superior to consider PlayStation and Nintendo as competitors! But would instead compete with Netflix and Google...

* But his worst mistake was Xbox Game Pass - a multi billion dollar investment that could only work if completely dominated the worldwide gaming market - but it didn't. Instead it changed the culture of Xbox gamers so they resented spending on third party games as they were now trained to expect everything for free. Now all the games Microsoft had invested so much in were not only NOT making money from other platforms, as ever, but they were now NOT EVEN making money from Xbox customers.

If Phil Spencer had just concentrated on making new games and not non-stop gimmicks to beat PlayStation, I genuinely believe the Xbox would be an attractive platform with regular exclusives like Halo but with others too that would give it its distinct identity and maintain a profitable existence. Phil's been in charge for over a decade, the blame lays at his feet.

Chevalier5h ago

Nah idiots like those 2 are lost causes. Just look at the idiotic floundering comments already being posted.

amazinglover11h ago

Last MS financial results for FY24 Q2 which is the company's sales data through Dec. 31, 2023. According to the earnings, gaming revenue is up 49% year-over-year.

That doesn't sound like he flushing it down the toilet and that also makes very unlikely he loses his job any time soon.

crazyCoconuts11h ago

Revenue up due to acquisition... Spending 10s of billions for new companies of course revenue is up. They don't tell us profits but they wouldn't be shutting down these divisions if they were in the black. Pretty sure they're shifting so radically because their current state has been an abject failure

Scissorman10h ago

This is 100% due to Activision Blizzard. If that deal had not gone through, Xbox revenue would be flat, which means a game like Starfield failed to move the needle.

rlow19h ago

@crazyCoconuts
While I agree that Phil and team have gone back on their word. Especially the last six years of promises.

But I disagree on your logic about the revenue.
They bought the companies to boost their gaming division revenue. In that regard they were very successful. They are owned by MS so your point is moot.

Lightning776h ago

They made all that money and still doing studio shutdowns...

It's bottomless pit of money MS wants. There's no amount of money MS can make to save their own studios. They're doing it out greed and general incompetence. Calling Phil's head won't mean anything or do anything for MS. They'll still destroy regardless.

Chevalier5h ago

Damn idiots don't know how to read revenue reports. Revenue was due to folding in Activision Blizzard Revenue. They were up 61% due to Activision Blizzard with 62% increase. So they only went up 1% over last year. But idiots going to be idiots thinking Spencer is helping Xbox right now. Lol

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Jingsing1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

It is funny that it was him finally touching Bethesda that was the straw that finally broke the camels back. They should have been calling for this years ago.

Tacoboto14h ago

Phil needs to go. His time is over. When you oversee layoff after layoff after studio closure after studio closure, it's impossible to keep going forward and have people - employees and fans alike - trust you in any way.

Especially after HiFi Rush hit their metrics. I guess we know what to expect for Ninja Theory next once Hellblade is out, and Machine Games once Indiana's out & Todd Howard focuses back on ES6.

Lightning776h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Ninja Theory won't last after HB2. Because it won't hit some impossible metric in order to be a success at MS.

Expect NT to be gone in a years time also. Where the hells the advertising for Hellblade 2? Another MS issue they do to themselves bunch of clowns.

Tacoboto6h ago

Their first-announced Series game going out like this. Their marketing so far has just been a daily tweet or two the last week.

And now this will overshadow everything up till and through its release. Maybe Ninja Theory will get the same dignity as Tango and bow out with a better PS5 port.

Chevalier5h ago

Hellblade 2 out in 2 weeks and no one will even remember it by the beginning of June

Chevalier5h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Just watch Outer World's 2 also be dead on arrival without Playstation and Nintendo gamers buying that game you can expect Gamepass to kill that IP too. Ditto for making that contract to exclude Playstation gamers from getting Indiana Jones too. Remember how Tomb Raider sales were on Playstation after the 1 year exclusivity? Expect even worse for Indiana Jones too

mastershredder14h ago

It's not just Phil (Phil is just the dumb kid taking the money) and Kotaku is NOT the voice to listen to as shi7 sites like Kotaku helped contribute to modern gaming toxicity and disinformation. Kotaku staff = Much like Phil, and yes need to go.

Moegooner14h ago

MS has been posting record profits, you think they give a crap about games and gamers? Think again.

DOMination-14h ago

What a prat.

People gave him and Matt Booty the benefit of the doubt for a few years due to the mess they inherited but a decade on and all they've done is ruin gaming for everyone.

The only success they've had is MS Flight Simulator which was developed by a third party anyway - and Forza Horizon which by pure coincidence went downhill in quality the second Playground were acquired (imo) and that's all I can think of. Everything else they've touched has been ruined.

It's genuinely staggering how either of these two guys are still there.

Hofstaderman14h ago

Phil didnt even inherit a mess, he was equally responsible for it because he sat on the executive so the kinect and XBONE roadmap vision was also on him. Mattrick was the convenient public scapegoat back then but now theres no one to place the blame on.

Tacoboto13h ago

If they're to keep anyone, I'd hope it would be Sarah Bond. She's at least consistent, constantly doing quick tweets with green emojis where she can, repping the brand, saying the next hardware will be the biggest leap ever (whatever that means).

Phil Spencer openly minimizes Xbox by going out of his way to congratulate competitors and talking about how great playing non-Xbox devices are; if only Xbox had someone that could even pretend to like Xbox for being Xbox.

LoveSpuds13h ago

This is the point I always found frustrating, the whitewashing of Spencers reputation when he got promoted. He was involved in the slide into mediocrity of the 360 generation!

Aloymetal13h ago

The worse is yet to come and their fanbase don't know it yet, someone at MS posted and deleted a tweet saying all their main ''exclusives'' Halo, Forza, Gears etc will be heading to PS soon so grab a front seat ticket and some popcorn and enjoy the show;) The crying will be hilarious.

Notellin12h ago

Yeah he is absolutely responsible for the abysmal state of Xbox. I can't tell Mattrick and Spencer apart at this point. Both have been horrible executives for the Xbox brand.

Lightning776h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Phil's responsible for this generations mess. Phil was the one following orders under Steve Balmer and Don Mattrick.

Don even admitted he messed up on camera with the Xbox documentary

Let's keep the facts straight. Everything currently now is Phil's fault.

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Diablo IV is Available on PlayStation Cloud Gaming - Beats Xbox to the Punch

Diablo IV is now available to play via PlayStation Cloud Gaming! Still not available to Play on Xbox Cloud Gaming.

We ran our script again and found 15 other PS5 games (a lot of popular ones!) that got PS5 Cloud Gaming support within the last month as well.

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Hugodastrevas1d 18h ago

Not for me, I'm 100% physical media all of the time.

jwillj2k41d 11h ago

I hate that I have to keep calling this out, but your physical disks mean nothing if the game code attempts to connect to a server prior to playing.

Hugodastrevas1d 11h ago

And that happens when? I'm playing completely offline here, stellar Blade to be more precise.
I'm sorry but I've never run into that imaginary problem you're talking about, I'm not saying it doesn't happen, but it has never happened to me.

jwillj2k41d 11h ago

You not running into the problem yet has no bearing on my argument. You’re acting like the medium is the shield for you being able to always play your games when it effectively is not. The game code itself can try to connect to a server or the console you’re playing on may receive an update that requires that game to connect to a server. Just because you haven’t ran into it doesn’t mean anything lol you don’t own your games no matter how you try.

Hugodastrevas1d 10h ago

So I have never run into the problem you're talking about and your answer is an hypothetical? Look I can play any game of my library offline right now without issue.
That issue is in your mouth and alone.

Crows901d 6h ago

Actually...there's an easy way...don't connect. If it doesn't require a connection and you don't connect...the code can't update...obviously....confused why you don't get what he's saying.

outsider16241d 5h ago

Hold on..lets say i dnt have an online connection, can i atleast play the game offline though. Was thinking of getting this

jwillj2k41d ago

None of you use your brains.

OK, let’s explore this playing offline. not talking about Diablo specifically just gaming in general.

Are you going to buy two PlayStations? One offline one online? If not, moment you want to play something that requires a connection you’re cooked.

Does game experience you love so much stay the same offline?

Is the game even playable offline?

The whole point of my argument is that we don’t hold the keys anymore. The gatekeepers are the developers and console makers regardless of whether it’s digital or physical. You altering your play style for a lesser experience is not a workaround, it doesn’t solve the overall problem.

None of this matters since the move to the cloud is inevitable.

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spicelicka1d 14h ago

So you have to buy the game and can only stream to the PS5 devices using PS plus premium? What is the point of that. Much more useful when you can stream to other devices.

MrNinosan1d 14h ago

Works great on my Portal while at work 👍

spicelicka1d 12h ago

That's streaming off your PS5, not from the cloud. This is specifically referring to cloud gaming.

CrimsonWing691d 14h ago

Can’t you, uh, do this on your phone?

Tacoboto1d 13h ago

Sony doesn't yet have a web or app-based solution to stream games off their cloud service, the closest you may be able to get would be Remote Play if they allow cloud streaming during a Remote session.

And yes this applies to the Portal too.

Einhander197218h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Tacoboto

Please stop talking about PlayStation Streaming, you don't know what you're talking about.

I just explained this to you the other day where you were telling people that remote play was their only cloud solution, because apparently you didn't understand how PlayStation Premium works even though PS Now was a thing since shortly after the launch PS4..

You can stream to PC and Mac, and they had mobile clients for it in the past but probably for the same reason Microsoft is fighting Apple and Google PS Now wasn't allowed on App stores. Which is why it's not on iPhone and Android still.

And to be honest, I am glad they are trying to keep it on the console, all their moves away from the console seem like a step in the wrong direction, which isn't working so great for Microsoft...

anast1d 13h ago

Blizzard is shoving this game everywhere. Diablo 4 is going to take an even bigger hit soon. Path of exile 2 is coming out and it looks insane.

Crows901d 6h ago

Well they're about to release the next season...I think that might be way they're pushing the game again.

anast16h ago

I mean I get what you are saying, but D4 isn't doing that well either.

UnbreakableAlex1d 12h ago (Edited 1d 12h ago )

I completed it on gamepass. Thanks God I dint pay it full price. It plays like a lazy mobile game. I am not a pro diablo gamer (Diablo 1 was the only one I completed) but D4 has no atmosphere, no creepy feeling and soundtrack like the first one and its so easy, I managed to not buy any weapon and had 4 Million Credits on level 55. I always used the same 4 attacks from the beginning and died maybe 10-15 times. It's so easy, wtf. I remember D1 to be pretty hard.
WTF happened? Is Diablo 3 also that bad?

jwillj2k41d 11h ago

Diablo 3 was my first Diablo game. I had to use the mailbox cheats to keep it interesting.

Crows901d 6h ago (Edited 1d 6h ago )

Diablo 3 was really hard at launch....then they made it easy.

They love scaling difficulty though.

anast16h ago

D2 is the pinnacle. I still fire it up from time to time.

GrmpyolGamer 1d 4h ago

Considering that the PS cloud steaming is garbage compared to XCloud and is limited to certain devices this isn't something to brag about. Wake me up when Diablo is on PS plus