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Apparently DLC and White Man Are Considered As Profanity In Battlefield V

The profanity filter from the looks of it is in violation of Article 19 of UDHR (Universal Declaration of Human Rights), which was ironically created as a result of WWII.

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Petrovich2084d ago

Sad to see what's happening to this franchise, just a thought, isn't promoting an ideology through censorship one of the strategies of the small party who took over a country and eventually started WWII? :)

T2X2084d ago

Actually, "censoring" hate speech and offensive material (Kind of because of MSRB and the fact that they have to) doesn't fall into the same category as the Nazis and their brand of "Censorship" if you get my meaning.

Iberius2083d ago (Edited 2083d ago )

Censoring games is only where it starts. Give it a decade or two and see how far the censoring has progressed.

That is the worry. If you give enough inches eventually it equals a mile and a hit to freedom of speech.

Inzo2083d ago

Some day someone is going to have to point out these "Nazis" for me.

Petrovich2083d ago

I get your point, however, the term "Hate Speech" is an overused or abused term by those who do not accept, agree, or listen to other people's opinion. It has become a defense mechanism which is based, more on feelings rather than logic. The "mute" option is there for a reason, you can either take the abuse, fight it or walk away, we always have a choice. A Profanity filter is somewhat a form of censorship which favors the ideology of those who implemented it, the words and phrases they decide to censor depends entirely on their level of tolerance and beliefs, Thus, if such feature is implemented upon a certain populace, it becomes a one-sided mechanism that will in one way or another suppress the rights of others, specifically the right to free speech, :)

thorstein2083d ago

We live in weird, weird times. I hate censorship. That being said:

We have the left being accused of being Nazis. The left has groups known as AntiFascists (antifa) who physically clash with those waving Nazi flags and who identify themselves as Nazis...

Censorship is also censoring the truth. And the truth is:

Women fought in WWII. Get the eff over it. Every single ethnic group in the USA fought in WWII. Get the eff over it.

Censoring that by eliminating these groups from video games is the very tyranny that these people claim to be against.

Weird, weird times. No labels make any sense.

"Arbeit macht frei" / sarcastic irony for those who get it. No eli5 for anyone else.

Bobafret2083d ago

Who get's to determine what "hate speech" is? Exactly, the ones censoring.

Concertoine2083d ago (Edited 2083d ago )

@Thorstein

1. Telling people they cant be fascists is fascism. Antifa will beat up one of their own for donning an American flag, that goes beyond antifascism.

2. No ones complaining about women and minorities being in the game. To put a woman on the cover and feature them so prominently in the marketing of the game is revisionist and innacurate though. Especially the disabled one with the prosthetic arm, thats just ridiculous.

3. BF1 actually featured women in a historical context on the Russian side and no one really cared. Because it had historical context and BF1 actually resembled a WW1 game visually.

To argue that certain groups are over represented is a reasonable and valid argument that EA responded to in a condescending and dismissive way. That move killed any hype for this game.

The rabbit hole will never end. There were black nazis in COD WW2 for crying out loud. At least the Wolfenstein devs understand the importance of still having a swaztika in a WW2 game.

-Foxtrot2083d ago

@thorstein

"We have the left being accused of being Nazis"

I stopped right there...left being accused of being Nazi's? Really?

If anything the left call anyone who disagrees with them Nazi's, trolls and trump supporters.

thorstein2083d ago (Edited 2083d ago )

@Foxtrot: Of course you stopped there. People waving Nazi flags and calling themselves Nazis are Nazis. How can't you figure that out?

@Concertoine:
1) Who said they couldn't? I specifically said they call themselves Nazis. Nazis are fascists. Who in the proverbial EFF do you think we fought in WWII? They were fascists.

2) Putting women on the cover of a war they fought in is "revisionist." Revisionist is when movie and gaming companies made war movies and war video games with only white men in them. I don't think you understand the term. Disabled with prosthetic arm... it really is a video game and not a history lesson. Both of which you seemed to have missed out on.

3) When did I say it didn't? Please quote me.

So where was the hate for Activision/ Sledgehammer?

I have a history quiz for you:

1) Is taking down confederate statues that were erected 62 years after the civil war by the KKK erasing history?

2) Is Colin Kap (and other players kneeling during the national anthem) disrespectful of the armed forces, flag, and the USA? Is it a protest of racist police officers (note the modifier, not all police officers are racist) while simultaneously respecting the armed forces, flag and the USA, since that is what U.S. Army veteran Nate Boyer said Colin Kaepernick should do?

3) Which ethnicities in the USA did not fight in the World Wars? A) All fought B) Italians C) African Americans D) Chinese E) Japanese F) Native Americans G) Latinos H) Irish I)Czechs J) Polish K) Jews?

4) Opinion: Why are those opposed to representations of those who fought so astoundingly against that representation in a video game?

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Bigpappy2083d ago (Edited 2083d ago )

Wow. I learn so much from these so-called “gamers”.
I had no idea Obama was so powerful. He must be the most powerful leader in US history.
This Ftank guy said Obama is a Nazi who had control over the media, governments (I guess this includes congress, the senate and the courts) and the corporate sector in order to control opponents. What is trump waiting on... he can’t allow himself to be out done by a Muslim from Kenya. Trump has majorities in the house senate and the court with non showing him any opposition. He should be way more powerful than Obama. Maybe he is. The true toothless tiger.

All of Trumps troubles are coming from people who are directly under his power: His lawyer ratted on him, Muller serves under him and sessions servers under him. The media is no trouble for Trump. They went after him for lying, sexual misconduct, ethnic prejudice.... and he still won the presidency running away.

BuildTheWall2083d ago

In the U. S. the Democratic party, leftist media, Progressives, etc. control over 93% of all media sources, they Social Media, are against real immigration reform, if you have an opinion that differs from the progressive ideals the media, leftists & most Democrats the Democrats & media label them as racist, sexist, homophobes, Islamophobes, etc. This same left is giving illegal aliens priority over those here legally, compare MS-13 to normal teenagers, say that admitting to being proud of being straight makes you homophobic, admitting to being proud of being white is racist, if you say you are proud of being gay or black they consider you a hero, say that minorities cannot be racist.

UltraNova2083d ago

Everyone is talking about anything else except the actual game. Everyone I speak too, everyone online. I truly believe that EA and Dice have effectively killed their biggest IP. I'm sad to say this but it looks BFV will be a major flop.

1-pwnsause-12083d ago (Edited 2083d ago )

Women did fight in world war 2...depends on the women that you’re talking about though...i’ll Tell you one thing, the chick in the front cover of bfv didn’t fight during ww2.... if she was soviet or possibly Canadian then I’ll agree with you...

The army Air Force did have females serving in world war 2, they were support units called the wasps... they didn’t fight at all... they aided but not actually fought...

The problem isn’t that there’s women in the game...I’m all down for that..the problem is the historical context side of things.... sure it’s a game, but usually when it comes to ww2 games we tend to...respect history...

william_cade2083d ago (Edited 2083d ago )

I agree with T2X.

Cobra9512083d ago

Who gets to determine what "hate speech" is, you?

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Rimeskeem2083d ago

I think people should be more worried about what the current administration is doing when it comes to censorship. EA has no actual power.

Bobafret2083d ago

The current administration? I hope you are joking.

Sophisticated_Chap2083d ago

I'm more concerned with the censoring that Google, Facebook and Twitter are engaged in. These three corporations have way too much power.

bjjcna2083d ago

Conservatives are the censored right now fella.

thorstein2083d ago

The amount of downvotes for such a comment is quite telling about how toxic N4G has become.

thorstein2083d ago

@bjjcna

Newspeak. Look it up.

Or perhaps read about why the pres wants the justice department to launch an investigation into an Opinion/Editorial printed in the New York Times.

Censorship? You don't know what it is?

Conservatives, again, words you don't seem to understand. Breitbart and Alex Jones are NOT conservatives.

Maddens Raiders2083d ago

"Conservatives are the censored right now fella."

Good. A bunch of goddamned nazis, haters, and bigots. Censor them all.

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Weeblordbad2083d ago (Edited 2083d ago )

Listen if EA or Battlefield wants NO SPEECH in their titles it's up to them. The publisher or developer saying "This language IS acceptable, and this language ISN'T acceptable." Is NOT censorship. How on earth you simple people could possibly try to link publishers trying to keep racial slurs and homophobic language out of THEIR games to the formation and rise to power of the Nazi party sure is stupid. When EA burns down a shelter for LGBT people, and then blames it on Alt RIghters you'll have a point. Until that day though, secure your lips.

If the government were to tell you; You may only get your news from these sources, you may only read books from these authors or publishers, you may not communicate these terms or ideas anywhere. THAT'S censorship, the suppression of ideas and real control of information. Not EA and DICE making a profanity filter.

Oh I just read your other gem below.

You honestly think Dice blanking out slurs is Censorship and an attack on free speech? Proving once again you have zero idea what you're talking about. Free Speech does not extend to private things, like say a video game. Freedom of speech is the protection that the GOVERNMENT will not infringe on it, not whether EA or Ubisoft will let you be a simple, basic, plebeian who just resorts to slurs constantly.

But you know, the last bastion of freedom in the world was the ability to use racial and homophobic slurs on the internet. Without that it's like living in Moscow in 1981. Front all you want, you're just a useless Morty.

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Concertoine2083d ago

Well for the record, the filter in this game is broken and people have found all kinds of weird things you cant say like “is hit” (because the censor thinks its s***).

What people are criticizing is EA’s recusal to respond to legitimate criticisms about this game in a mature way. They’d rather smear everyone complaining as being something they aren’t. Look at the agrees and disagrees here, do you really think the majority of people on this article are what EA paints them as? I sure dont.

No one hear is arguing that EA is breaking a law, they just arent happy with the PC bs that they’re choosing to proliferate instead of making a good game. People here understand the best way to protest is to not buy and thats what youre seeing.

Gh05t2083d ago (Edited 2083d ago )

"white man" and "DLC" are racial or homophobic slurs now?
To think that you believe we are simple minded... I pitty you.

The article isn't about legitimate slurs that people find offensive it's about all the other crap that was added that ARENT hate, racist, sexist, homophobic. Please tell me how DLC could be taken badly by a person?

You seem to have missed the whole point.

Bimkoblerutso2083d ago

@Concertoine

There's just something so ironic about this particular instance being considered "un-PC."

Like, I can understand making the case that this game doesn't necessarily need to be historically accurate, but to try and champion the decision as some kind of grand statement on diversity and political correctness almost feels revisionist in nature.

These times are just absolutely insane. It used to be hyperbole to call the PC culture insane, but when all logic and reason is literally tossed to the side in favor of fantasy...that is literally what it is: insanity.

william_cade2083d ago

Weeblord has the strongest argument.

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frostypants2083d ago

I'm more worried about our president saying he wants to censor our media for calling him out, but sure, a video game company doing this is mildly annoying.

bow2yoda2083d ago

for the first time ever ea is standing up against a cancerous community... yall complaining about censorship are the ones that all of us end up having to mute!

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yarbie10002084d ago

As someone who loves the Battlefield franchise, the game has lost everything that was special about it. Beta acts like a bigger CoD map, hardly any vehicles. Catering to SJWs with censorship and adding retarded add ons like prosthetic arms. It will be the first BF I won't be buying. I can't support them destroying the franchise

Sciurus_vulgaris2084d ago

I am black and didn’t appreciate the forced diversity I present in Battlefield V’s beta. I found it stupid if not offensive to depict non-whites and women fighting in front-lin battles that they weren’t allowed to fight in. Not to mention why was I reviving Asian women and black men on the German Team in the middle of Europe! Everything about the game seems off. Kills times are way to low, the progression system will punish new players and favour people with more play time.

medman2083d ago

Yes, of course...feign outrage at this, meanwhile have no issue with the depiction of a white Jesus in western Christianity, even though the vast preponderance of biblical historians believe Jesus looked a lot more like Nelson Mandela or Osama Bin Laden than the visage portrayed in the western world. Typical.

Maybe spend less time worrying about videogame battles, and more about real world battles.

thorstein2083d ago (Edited 2083d ago )

History can't be erased.

Women fought in WWII.

As did 1 of every 20 African Americans. (the rest worked at home to support the war effort.) As did many other ethnic groups.

It isn't the SJW agenda to include the groups that were whitewashed out of history.

It's just called accuracy.

dillydadally2083d ago (Edited 2083d ago )

@medman this is not only weirdly random, but also completely inaccurate. Jesus was a Jew and pretty much every historian I've seen agrees he probably looked similar to other Jews of the day. When was the last time you saw someone of Jewish descent that looked like Nelson Mandela?

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thorstein2083d ago

@Dilly

We are arguing with people who think ancient Egypt was filled with Europeans.

These people don't value evidence. So... what evidence can we provide that would convince them?

Sayai jin2083d ago

Sciurius, I'm black and I don't understand being offended by a game. I don't get offended by modern war games depicting the vast majority of white males on the battlefield; and I am a retired SF vet that actually deployed, fought, patroled, etc on this battlefield/regions. Blacks and Hispanics make up around 38% of the US military not to include other non whites, but most games don't depict that. Which is not accurate, but people are now offended that white males aren't being historically displayed in a video game. Not to mention the lopsided underrepresention in tv, movies, etc. Even religious and historical accounts have been whitewashed.

It's a game and has never been completly historically accurate through timelines, weapons, etc. Plus no reviving on the battlefield. One shot, IED blast, etc and you're done.

Gh05t2083d ago

@medman

Since when is having a contrary opinion considered outrage.

JFC what is it with people like you!

FYI ^ is outrage.

medman2082d ago (Edited 2082d ago )

@dillydadally
Wrong. You, like most people who have been sold lies your entire life, need to do some research. Jesus was Jew, but if your only knowledge of Jews is based on modern day Israel and that limited population, you're doomed to be perpetually confused....the world is bigger than that. Here's just a little taste...
http://www.abc.net.au/news/...
https://www.livescience.com...
https://theconversation.com...
https://www.insideedition.c...

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T2X2084d ago

Just wanted to point out that if you "Enjoy the franchise" why would you not buy this one because of a perception that they're catering to SJW and have some add on like a prosthetic limb. Which btw, they just came out and said they were going to "tone down" the more wacky customization options. I love the game personally and aside from the regular hiccups that are always there when a new BF launches, I find it to be better that BF1 personally.

yarbie10002084d ago

I see you read half of my post but ignored the other half.

sprinterboy2083d ago

I still don't understand why people don't revive you, so many squad members just walking/running past you?

-Foxtrot2084d ago

Jesus Christ are they literally trying to kill this franchise...what the hell happened to DICE

You mention a dozen of complaints with the first reveal, it turns into "bu bu but you're being sexist just because there's a woman in it".

Now they do this and you can believe it'll end up something like "bu bu but you typical white men whining about something so small, I think you are being racist". Stupid I know but you know how it is, it will happen.

Petrovich2084d ago

From the way things are going at EA DICE, as much as I want it, I'm glad they're not working on a Bad Company sequel, or are they?

Sophisticated_Chap2083d ago

True, we don't want it to get caught up in all of this nonsense.

EazyC2083d ago

According to the guy who accurately leaked BF1 and BF V (AlmightyDaq), DICE LA is working on Bad Company 3 for next year. Personally I think I'm going to wait for that

Iberius2083d ago

What happened to DICE? Their minds became so "open" their brain fell out.

Sciurus_vulgaris2083d ago

Well look at what Dice/EA has done to damage their franchise in just a few months

1. The reveal of BFV includes the following: historically inaccurate depictions of women in WWII and forced diversity. There is also what could be considered cultural appropriation by having traditional Celtic War Paints and Katanas as customization options in a historic setting. Mockery of disability by having Prosthetic arm as a customiziation option.
2. Calling people uneducated when they point out the historical inaccuracies of your game.
3. Tell people not to buy your game after they criticize the SJW aspects of BFV.
4. Copy aspects of Battlefront 2’s unbalanced progression system despite it being unliked by many.
5. The beta is all over the place. It feels unoptimized (at least on console)despite the game very obviously being heavily recycled from BF1. Also several aspects of BF V just “feel off”.
6. Continue with SJW narrative despite the fact that earlier mentioned group isn’t going to buy or support your game. BF fans and gamers are the individuals that support the Battlefield series. SJW just love to complain to validate themselves and increase their personal significance.

Weeblordbad2083d ago

@Sciurus_vulgaris
Battlefield has never been historically accurate, if it was things like Project Reality or Forgotten Hope wouldn't have been a thing. Hell even the Vietnam mod for 1942 (Eve of Destruction) offered more vehicles, larger maps and more weapon variety than Battlefield Vietnam.

You guys are talking Authenticity in the series where Tunnel helicopters are a regular occurrence, running forward on wings kept you on them, you can jump from vehicle to vehicle in the air and everyone is trained and able to operate every vehicle on their own. Yeah....authentic, of course.

dillydadally2083d ago

It's just weird to me that they're worried about a profanity filter when you can't even turn off the pretty heavy swearing in the multiplayer voice overs.

Majin-vegeta2084d ago

The thing is bugged.It also blocks out spaghetti,Titanfall Dice stated they'reworking it so it's not so sensitive

Inzo2083d ago

Blocks out the words White man but not Black man? Thats a little too specific dont you think?

Gwiz2083d ago

I can't even believe they actually did that LMAO...

-Foxtrot2083d ago

I don't know how they can hide behind that with "Oh...it was a bug"

If it blocked out everything from "Black Man" to "Asian Man" to then "White Man" fair enough but everything except "White Man"...come on, it's EA/DICE and after the recent controversies with this game it seems it was on purpose

Now it'll be a 180 where they'll go "Oh yeah it was a bug, we didn't mean it" when really it's because they were caught and it become a big thing they couldn't ignore which was making them look bad, again.

Gh05t2083d ago

I have some land on the moon I would like to sell you.

PapaBop2084d ago

Is "pay to win" or "P2W" considered profanity too?

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Battlefield V now broken on Steam Deck / Linux with EA anticheat live

That's all folks. EA anticheat has now been added into Battlefield V, so it's the end of being able to play it on Steam Deck and other Linux systems.

This joins the likes of Plants vs. Zombies Garden Warfare 2: Deluxe Edition, EA SPORTS FC 24, EA SPORTS FIFA 23, Battlefield 2042 and Madden NFL 24 that all have EA's own homegrown anti-cheat that make them simply unplayable on systems running Linux.

Now if you try to run it, you'll be greeted with an error. A shame to see a game that's multiple years old get broken like this and no doubt EA will continue to use their own EA anticheat in future online games. Battlefield 1 is still okay, and Apex Legends is also still running but perhaps it's only a matter of time before EA force it onto those too?

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just_looken49d ago

more comments here:
https://www.reddit.com/r/St...
https://steamcommunity.com/...

47 comments in hours bf5 won't launch anymore ea is saying meh not my prob bitch tosses a faq
https://answers.ea.com/t5/B...

Yes counter cheating that is good but when the ea app on pc is still totally broken and these cheaters are on 2042 same anti cheat this is just putting scotch tape on trumps file cabinet to prevent leaks its nothing more than a stop gap.

I mention ea app as for 4years it was in beta then tossed out with 3 year old issues and i still cant not get the products that i purchased on origin yeah i purchased digital but guess what there is no dvd games on pc anymore.

Philaroni48d ago

Likewise, I'm about to do some games with some friends here but if you wish to PM me I could share my Discord if you like to talk further. Oddly you bring up THQ that I did some work for in the past.

Also for Starfield I have just a Stock GTX 1080. Not even the 1080i version on an ultra wide and with some Ini, changes and other weird things I know I got it working at Series X frame rate. Sure not the the fancy graphics options. I know Bethesda games have always been more CPU then GPU limiting. A good application I don't see many using is Process lasso. It helps with may CPU heavy games on PC. (Battletech is the main one I use it for) Can find it here if you like. https://bitsum.com/

""Xbox has made custom engines like forza/unreal they used to support epic back in the day like slipstream like you said but they make so much cash they do not need to work as much as sony.

But the issue i find is the lack of passion behind games aswell as the mass amount of users that love the broken/microtransantion filled games we get every day. Back in the day when a game was crap or had something wrong it was a oh crap are we going to get shutdown or like thq just poof gone. But today its na who cares fix it later or write it off then oh wait never mind they like it such as the new cod.""

Going to combine me response here. You are right, MS and I do feel like what they do with not just Froza and also the tech they use in Flight Sim. Is not given enough credit. If I am correct the next Fable game is going to be using a mix of things from the Turn 10 Team, maybe Unreal? Hard to say at this point, But MS along with Sony both own a full License of the tech (Days Gone for Sony) I agree with you on the talent and passion part, games have become too much, at least AAA games the 'Milk, butter, eggs and toast" to support places now days. Innovations in gameplay and such has fell lower and lower. I still don't see mechanics and ways of playing games like I did so many years back, its a bummer.

For MS maybe the end as even though they might have a massive advantage in software and services (I use to work in Azure) They can kind of do some things at cost but seem to fail at it a lot. The cloud gaming push I don't think is going to have the effect so many hope for (Not sure why anyone wants that) I still want MS to have a chance but, if I sit here with my magic dice and roll it on MS games over the last forever, it could land on Crackdown 3 (Remember that?) The cloud powered game... and now they are trying to do it again with Kojima some what. As an engineer, its not happening now, tomorrow or anything in the next 24 years. I remember back on this interview with John,

https://www.reddit.com/r/nv...

We are not even at that point yet. So hope we get there and I hope MS is still a player but I do feel you are right in many ways, they are already trying to slowly retreat just by the rhetoric alone.

Ether way again PM me and we should talk more, would love to do so.

Philaroni48d ago

The rough part of all of this is that for those of us on PC mostly be it Windows or Linux based, the anti-cheat sucks up a lot of resources. It kind of reminds me of the conversation between, security and freedom. Too much of ether is both good if managed well or very bad. We just as gamers keep seeing this pop up over and over again. Wish I had some magic wand to stop cheaters... but I don't... hell we just seen what happened with Apex at a high level event.. getting that kind of access and such is not good... but at the same time. Can anyone, one person provide me an example where Anti Cheat has even like a hit rate above 50? I know I'm pulling numbers out of my ass, but it seems the cheaters beat the systems in place time and time again. Where there is a lock, and a smith to make it. We always will have a thief that breaks it.

just_looken48d ago (Edited 48d ago )

I can

Sense everyone seems to have brain rot and forgot the ps3 that is the solution.

The ps3 for its first half had systems that would only launch the game if it saw you had a ps3 controller along with a inhouse operating system and a real gpu/cpu it was way harder to run cheats off of along with the ability to make custom rooms.

Yes there were p2p lag switching then later on thanks to that dev kit leak cheat menus but for years games like killzone/mag had dedicated servers that were hard to crack a operating system/cpu those in public had 0 knowledge how to make stuff on them.

Right now if they put all mp files on the server so we just stream the game that would be a huge step or make the multiplayer run in a sanboxed mode separate on the system.

Philaroni48d ago

I'm glad you brought that up that Killzone had Dedicated servers. I remember the Yellow Dog Linux days of PS3, as well. EA use to do more Dedicated Servers for games but as time went on they would 'rent them out' and slowly the official servers would die down.

P2P Lag always had that magical thing (Gears 2 (Aak the shot gun) and Halo 2,3) fans know as host advantage. That alone allowed for lags switches, booting of others from games. ECT. (Though I admit, was the most fun I had when our team could beat cheaters. Man was that a good time)

I fully agree with you, the fact so much is working how it is has in a hard way compromised network/client security issue. I'll pick on COD for example where some assets are local and other are on server, between games and between even evolutions/iterations of the engines used.

just_looken48d ago

@phil

Thank you for the reply i am glad others on here remember

Now back to the series x having games with the same frame rate as a 2005 xbox 360 but the masses thinking that is fine and next gen.

Starfield on series x native 780ishp fallout 3 xbox 360 720p both 30fps gaming has "grown so much"

Sadly we are not in large numbers and see mp/sp tech wise/cheater wise has gotten worse not better.

Philaroni48d ago

I hate to say it about Starfield I'd have too look at reports from way back when. I swear to god they said it was going to launch with Creation Kit 2 (I worked with 1 alot in Skyrim mods in the block based aka cell based structure) Back then it was great, but for the life of me I don't know how a Studio like Obsidian can make a game same as Bethesda but with less bugs and bull shit. (Fallout Veg and Outer Worlds) Not that it was with out bugs but when a 3rd party does better with your own tech... I find an issue... with it all.

Frame rate stuff I only understand from two points, design and marketing. On the Design part yes back in the day 30FPS was I swear almost more common then now days. It was not a design compromise to keep it at 30 as the hardware and the way the game was being 'displayed' (Key thing there) was as impactful. Now days I feel the Marketing side wants a 4K trailer running likely rendered on a Xbox or PS system with little text saying (Oh wit was on a PC that no one is able to afford... of course teasing there a bit.)

I do understand that Starfield is a 'simulated world' where like every item you drop is there, for like forever... cool, that is not too new now days and design wise, is kind of a dumb thing.... who cares how many carrots you can collect... is it cool sure, makes for good PR in some ways. Lack of tangible game play is the issue. I can't take credit for this but a buddy of mine worked in advertising and I shit you not at Fast food. They would make wax and even 3D print now and then post render foods you would get, just for you as the client at a Burger King to not be given as you where sold on. (((( He did not work for them FYI.. but others)))

Issue with gaming as you are saying is too much is on the 'presentation.' It does not sell like it use too, that type of advertising. Most of it is word of mouth, who my friends tell me is a good game or not, what my friends are playing. Then comes the reviews.

Its dumb that our next gen systems feel like we gone all but up a step that we already went down two to three on. Take Uncharted 4 for example 30FPS SP and 60 MP. That I can deal with, and that was a PS4 game.

I do at times dis Xbox a lot, but come on, they still have yet to make there own damn game engine. Slipstream failed heavily, where Sony and most of their own studios have tech they made for the games they are trying to build. I am unsure how Xbox is again now saying the 'next' system will be the best ever. Sure it will be duh? Tech changes and grows, but I never seen a system use it so poorly. (I blame alot on the bloated Xbox OS FYI)

just_looken48d ago

@phil

You can have both presentation and framerate pc's have been doing both for decades now 4k ray tracing bla bla yeah that is different but starfield is no maxed out minecraft with its seed tech with ray tracing minecraft uses seeds also with huge buildings but for years pc's can do 60fps on that.

I mentioned 30fps because back in the day we had hd consoles alot of users had sd tv's just getting into hd tv's so i get the graphics difference but we are talking about 20years of hardware difference.

A real hardware console 6700 3700x 16gb of ram can run starfield at 60fps not maxed out but its possible this was pre performance patches:
https://youtu.be/hNM488QIKO...

Remember the apu/igpu tablet crap the consoles are using are based off of the 6700

The xbox operating system has always been windows based from windows 2000/xp xbox-xbox 360 the tail end of the 360 using vista/7 then to the series x using windows 10 that is why backwards compatibility works great its all direct x based with the same bc as a window's pc. What we see today is just the change from needing games to survive to making games as a product m$ makes more money in a week than what sony can make in months.

Xbox has made custom engines like forza/unreal they used to support epic back in the day like slipstream like you said but they make so much cash they do not need to work as much as sony.

But the issue i find is the lack of passion behind games aswell as the mass amount of users that love the broken/microtransantion filled games we get every day. Back in the day when a game was crap or had something wrong it was a oh crap are we going to get shutdown or like thq just poof gone. But today its na who cares fix it later or write it off then oh wait never mind they like it such as the new cod.

The new cod is making bank yes users hated it but the sales show the masses that do not post love it sadly

Heck did you see that wow has limited time store items now with hundreds online defending it because they think the store its what's need to keep the game online despite the $15 a month payment and m4 ownership.

I find in the end of this generation Microsoft will go the way of sega they might also just buy sony as everything sony except music/games is not making money they are a cheap buy for microsoft right now so we would just have 2 companies fighting in the gaming ring with papa os watching from the sidelines.

Great chatting 2 you may i recommend looking at rpgm games? they are out there even though i have a i9 4090 custom rig right now along with a ps5 i have been playing 4yr old games or rpgm stuff this year. Its funny i remember being a 2360/ps3 owner stacks of adventures now i am like well time to see what is in the past.

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EA anticheat and Battlefield

Battlefield V, getting easy anticheat

We're pleased to share that EA Anticheat will be extended to #BattlefieldV this Wednesday, April 3rd at 08:00 UTC.

You will need to restart your game to benefit from the changes of this Client Update.

Learn more via our updated EA Anticheat Blog:

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Other sources from battlefield official accounts.

https://twitter.com/Battlef...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ba...

So steamdeck might have issues and those out there that are anti kernal drm will get a surprise. Depending on your setup you also might get new issues as i know rgb software likes to fight with easy anti cheat.

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