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Hello Games' Turnaround with No Man's Sky Deserves Praise

Hello Games has done what few studios do; they've taken a poorly-received title and morphed it into a great one with much time, effort, and difficulty.

KickSpinFilter2122d ago

Well Driveclub, morphed into an amazing game also but. Alas it was to late for developer. Would have loved to see what they could have done with DC2

strayanalog2122d ago

Games like this make me wonder if the review system we have will eventually change or we'll simply update the scores?

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Sgt_Slaughter2121d ago

What does this have to do with review systems? I would not want people to remove older scores, because those scores are accurate to what the game was like two years ago.

Sy_Wolf2121d ago

No it doesn’t. Adding things 2 years after launch that they promised would be there at launch isn’t worth praise.

mkis0072121d ago

Well what would the reaction be if they had abandoned it?

Sgt_Slaughter2121d ago

I think you can have both directions not receive praise. Doing work on a game and making it better is good, but not two years after the fact. Make a game correctly the first time and all this wouldn't have to happen.

Sy_Wolf2120d ago

i think it’s good that people who bought the game get something closer to what they were promised, doesn’t mean the developer is worthy of praise for releasing a bad product and kind of bringing things back in to line 2 years after the fact.

RabbitFly2121d ago

What was promised at lunch that was added with next?

AK912121d ago

Yes they do but the end product is still underwhelming and kinda not worth it.

Imalwaysright2121d ago (Edited 2121d ago )

Praise for a dev that falsely advertised a game? Praise a dev that not only released an unfinished but also an extremely broken game at full price no less? If we're praising a developer that does these anti-consumer practices then what shall will do when a dev doesn't? Build them a statue? Throw them a parade?

The absolute lack of standards by the "gamers" that have this kind of mindset are much more to blame than the EAs, Activisions and Hello games of this world for the anti-consumer joke that this industry has become. Not only do they bendover and take it up the ass but they also say "thank you and please help yourself as many times as you can because we will praise you for it" https://media.giphy.com/med...

RabbitFly2121d ago

Pfft the outrage sheep are just as problematic when it comes to where this industry is at.

You want devs and publishers to be honest with the community, while at the same time calling for the flogging of people that just speak their mind.

Its a conteadiction that will stop this industry from evolving

Imalwaysright2121d ago (Edited 2121d ago )

But I'm being honest. I don't care if your feelings got hurt. I really don't. What I do care about is for this industry to be held by the same standards as most other industries where practices such as false advertisement or putting broken products on the market have and rightly so legal repercussions.

"Its a conteadiction that will stop this industry from evolving". Oh yes, my words really are holding this industry back and are comparable to the dozens of broken and falsely advertised games that are released on the market. Words vs actions and people enabling such actions in detriment of their own rights as consumers going as far as praising devs that did those actions https://media.giphy.com/med... Not that it matters but you're not helping improve my opinion of those so called "gamers".

RabbitFly2121d ago

Ok. Where did I ever say anything about my feelings?

Way to misrepresent.

You are totally missing the point. Both arguments are hyperbole. You are just choosing the hyperbole that fits your narrative.

Broken games? False advertisement? Where are these things? And when are they not called out for these things?

If anything we have a industry that is driven by fanboys and hyperbole. Outrage in every corner. If it isn't being called out for this then it is being called out for that. No rational arguments in sight.

People have a right to their opinions. Just as you have a right to yours. You however tried to make your own opinion stand out as superior. That is the narrative I take issue with.

Imalwaysright2120d ago (Edited 2120d ago )

"Broken games? False advertisement? Where are these things"

Saying this in a No Man's Sky related article is hilarious. On the top of my head: Skyrim, Fallouts, Driveclub, Battlefield 4. Halo collection or AC unity let alone all the games that need multiple patches because who cares if your product is broken when you can fix it 2 or 3 months after release right?

As for false advertisement on the top of my head we have people "playing" kinect on E3 stage, colonial aliens Marines, the famed Killzone 2 gameplay video, Mass Effect 3 where you wouldn't choose your own ending, Watch Dogs and I heard that adverts for mobile games are also very on point... but I get it now with you is not a case of lack of standards. It's a case of ignorance.

Hyperbole? No I've just been watching this industry going down hill and I don't like it so I'm going to express my opinion whether you like it or not.

Never said that people shouldn't have their own opinions did I? The thing is that I also have one and if you have an issue with it what can I say other than oh well.

RabbitFly2120d ago

Was No Mans Sky broken at release? This is the first I have heard about it.

If you are insinuating that No Mans Sky was using false advertisement then you are talking about hyperbole. Because not only can all of those claims easily be disproved by rational arguments, but they did it in a court of law.

It seems you are making the false equivalence between the enjoyment factor you get out of a game and it's marketing.

A game markets itself as good, and then it turns out it isn't what you would consider good so the marketing is all of a sudden false. Despite the fact that "good" is 100% subjective.

Your claims about my so called ignorance when I ask for rational arguments is a typical red herring and arguably an ad hominem. Unless you want to make a rational argument for my ignorance that is?

"Never said that people shouldn't have their own opinions did I? The thing is that I also have one and if you have an issue with it what can I say other than oh well."

Nor did I claim that you did.

Way to misrepresent.

I said you are making your opinion out to be superior. Literary saying that a mindset that opposes yours lacks any kind of standard.

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Why Microsoft Putting Black Ops 6 On Game Pass Is The Ultimate Test

By putting Black Ops 6 on Game Pass, Microsoft plans to gauge its growth, pricing, and monetization changes, at the cost of less game sales.

rlow114h ago

If they have follow up games that are bangers, then this strategy will work. But if it’s Call of Duty followed another dead period then it won’t last.

crazyCoconuts11h ago

From MS financial perspective I think it may be the opposite.
A year of GamePass on PC is less than the price of two full price games. For all the people that would have bought COD for $70 but instead started subbing for GP, MS will get an extra $50/year which is good.
However, for each banger that MS puts out, that's lost potential revenue because the GP sub won't need to buy it.
So it only makes sense where the new GP customers would have otherwise not spent more money with MS... Which is the case if MS puts out low quality shovelware.

rlow110h ago

If you’re looking at the short term you are correct. But if Xbox can have multiple bangers then subscriptions should increase. Which is what they want, recurring revenue.

S2Killinit1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

I think this is more about microtransactions. MS wants to see if the upfront losses will be offset by more people login into the “free” game and buying more microtransactions to justify not selling as much COD games.

I honestly not sure. I feel like everyone who likes COD is already playing/buying it so I’m not sure how much more engagement they can get by putting it on gamepass. On the other hand, I also feel a lot of COD players are casual gamers, and they are the type to click on anything that is “free” ex: mobile gaming style

Sonic188111h ago

I don't see it working if Call of Duty makes less money and profits over time from gamepass 🤔

blackblades11h ago

I dont understand why have it on it when we all know it sells with the name alone. Seems stupid to lose so much sales and $ just to have it on game pass. They basically shooting themselves in the foot with a already injured foot from all the other times they shoot themselves in the foot.

CrashMania10h ago

@blackblades, that's my exact point, even on xbox where most software sells poorly CoD still sells millions, but the thing is, if you don't put it on GP you kinda shatter the whole idea they've build GP up to be, they've dug this hole themselves.

I think it might tick up subscribers a bit, but warzone is already free and gets millions of players regardless of GP. But where will those extra subs come from? Xbox sales are dropping like a rock, PC gamers are very firmly rooted in Steam and will just buy it there.

Tacoboto9h ago

@black

If they don't include it on Game Pass, they lose the claim of First-Party Day-One on Game Pass, and thus would begin the slippery slope of what's-ok-to-not-include and the devaluing of the service, and further sinking Microsoft/Xbox's already tarnished reputation.

Stuck between a rock and a hard place and this move buys them time to work out more future-math.

crazyCoconuts9h ago

I still expect a price increase in GP to compensate but who knows. With all the factors in play like COD points there are too many variables for someone on the outside to predict what will happen. I assume they have a forecast model where this all looks peachy.

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Garethvk13h ago

When the game does not hit 1 Billion in revenue in under two weeks they will wonder why and the next thing you know; Season Updates will no longer be free.

Noskypeno13h ago

Yup, the CEO needs a new yacht and private jet

Abear2110h ago

Yeah I expect paid DLC and season pass in your face, now you are buying for a game you are renting

purple10112h ago

subscribers go up, execs celebrate win, get bonus, price goes up, subscribers go down,

execs dont care, got their bonus,

MrDead11h ago

If it works CEOs and shareholders get a payday and if it doesn't even more studios get closed by MS so CEOs and shareholders get a payday.

Elda11h ago

It will sell on PC & PS but as long as COD is for rent on Gamepass it will not sell well on the XB platform. Most folks such as myself that like COD just for the campaign would rather rent it for that month instead of paying $70 plus tax for the game.

IAMRealHooman10h ago

Your smart.
its 70 for base plus 10 to 20 for a season pass plus another 30 for there better season pass,

darthv7210h ago

...now you are finally getting how to use GP. No commitments, just play what is offered. if you like it so much and want to keep a copy for yourself... you can buy it when you want to. I used to buy games based on if they looked appealing and have been burned many times on things. With this, I can try before I buy. And I have actually bought several games after having rented them in the service. It literally is like the old days of renting only you get the whole store instead of pay per rental.

Elda10h ago

I've been knowing how to use Gamepass. I sub the service yearly & I play games on the service that I don't have to pay the full price for such as Persona 3:Reload. I mostly play & pay for games on my PS5 but if a game lands on GP that I'm interested in playing & I don't have to buy a copy for the PS5 I'll definitely play it on Gamepass.

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Behaviour Interactive Is Laying Off 95 People

Behaviour Interactive is facing redundancies, with almost 100 people affected, mostly affected in Montreal.

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just_looken20h ago

Man this studio got hit with another round? it sucks there know for dead by daylight not saying that its a bad game because its not but because its from 2016 and this team has tossed a game out almost every year sense then but each game got worse and worse sales/notice.

meet your maker all done by them has 8 players playing on average via steam
https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...
https://steamdb.info/app/11...

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Stuff like this looks like alot of work was done but so few sales this is what no doubt is causing all the layoffs.

January this year they laid off 45 people
https://www.gamesindustry.b...

95 is this week so this news is new
https://www.msn.com/en-us/m...

Just back to back waves of layoffs.

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Why is Steam Blocked in Vietnam? Government Shares Reason

Finally, the Vietnamese government has officially responded to Steam being blocked in the country.

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blacktiger2d ago

AMAZING! Thank You Gabe, stand for freedom of speech!!!!

PRIMORDUS2d ago

VPN to buy games, fuck that if it's allowed or not, or just use a VPN and torrent what you can.

seanpitt231d 19h ago

I just cannot believe we haven't had a game from them this generation nearly 4 years in.. crazy!

Knightofelemia2d ago

If the game is crap then yes there will always be negative feedback it comes with the territory. It's called word of mouth or welcome to the internet. Where the truth about a game comes out really fast whether the game is good or crap. If you can't handle the criticism because of a game then why publish the game. Why should people who never criticized or even played the game be punished? Vietnam has some really screwed up laws block Steam because they don't answer us rule. And going on a witch hunt with Steam please. Where's the proof, where's the evidence of this witch hunt. Somebody is butt hurt and has a Vietnamese Karen leading the witch hunt.