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Pro Evolution Soccer's Licensing Strategy Might Work - Here's Why

"With a dwindling set of AAA licences available year-on-year, Konami were forced to change tack. Turkish Süper Lig,Russian Premier Liga, SPL and full partnerships with the Old Firm of Celtic and Rangers are not to be underestimated - nor is the sharp upturn in player/team numbers." - Elite Gamer

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ChristianReggieWait2122d ago

Didn't realize pro evo was still a thing tbh!

PrimeVinister2122d ago

Cruel but honestly not surprising.

ChristianReggieWait2122d ago

Didn't realize pro evo was still going to be honest!

RedDevils2122d ago

You should play the games is much better than fifa

ChristianReggieWait2121d ago

I can't stand Football Red, bit I'm glad it's not just about FIFA

Telford912122d ago

Delighted to see Celtic as one of the licenced teams. Pity that they added rangers as well

PrimeVinister2122d ago

Ya need both for a proper derby though..

LoveSpuds2122d ago

You might argue that for most of the footballing community, including either is a pointless exercise. The Scottish Prem and the teams in it are a joke for the majority of the footballing world and these teams wouldnt even register as a blip on the radar for most.

smolinsk2122d ago

Pes has and still is the best raw football game on computer ever, only sensible soccer comes close.

LoveSpuds2122d ago

Oh god how I miss Sensi, nothing has come close in my humble opinion.

icerob2121d ago

I remember loving Sensi too.. I am sure if we played it today we would smile and turn it off almost immediately.

LoveSpuds2121d ago

I played it very recently and still had a good time however, you are correct, like most games from that era, time hasn't been kind. It was really fascinating going over the teams and reminiscing about old players and teams....I forgot Phil Babb even existed as a Liverpool fan 🤣🤣

Dfooster2122d ago

It's a shame the kids all go for cosmetics rather than gameplay because it's truly a fantastic game and hands down beats fifa where it should count in the gameplay department

RedDevils2122d ago

agreed. I been playing fifa for almost 10 years straight. I dropped it like a bomb since last season when I start playing Pes again.

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Metal: Hellsinger dev says he is against Game Pass after seeing how it affects sales

Founder of Metal: Hellsinger studio says he wasn't against Game Pass until their game launched on Microsoft's service, which affected game sales.

TheProfessional6h ago(Edited 5h ago)

Why did PS copy gamepass if it's so terrible and unprofitable? PS Now was before gamepass but it was streaming trash that no one had any interest in.

And honestly the way the industry releases overpriced and broken games with day one season passes and dlc who wouldn't want to just pay for a subscription instead of $70 per game?

Only biased PS fans would defend paying more to a corporation rather than an option that's cheaper for the consumer overall. If it's from an indie studio that needs the sales that's different but games published by larger companies are fine on a subscription model. Also any of these devs who complain did decide to put their games on gamepass in thr first place.

ocelot074h ago

Ahhh yes the typical but but but Sony in a Microsoft article.

When did Sony copy Microsoft? I havent seen Sony's big day one titles such as God of war Ragnarok or GT7? Do you want to know why they are not on the service? Because people are still willing to PAY for the games. Sony has already admitted they lost millions putting Horizon Forbidden West and Ratchet & Clank on PS+ Extra.

"larger companies are fine on a subscription model" Oh really? So why is all the cod games yet to be on it? Where is elden ring? Resident Evil 4 Remake? Street Fighter 6? Boulders Gate 3? Alan Wake 2? Where are they of gamepass is great and big publishers are fine putting newer games on it?

I'll tell you where they are. They are currently still selling for their respected publisher's. You know actually making them money. That money they can use to fund the next project.

who wouldn't want to just pay for a subscription instead of $70 per game?

I'm one of the millions who much rather pay $70 so fully support the publisher. Why do we do this? Well for starters I rather just pay for it rather than keep renting it each month. If we all just kept renting years ago blockbuster would still be around. Secondly, I rather we have AAA titles in 10 years time to enjoy. Rather than play mobile quality crap from a subscription.

Tell me how this is a good thing for gaming going forward. The last time I subbed to Gamepass was October 2023. During that one month subscription I played the newly released Starfield, Forza and a few other titles. All for the cost of about $7. Since then Microsoft have not released anything I want to try out or put anything on GP I want to try. So they last made $7 from me 8 months ago.

In the last 3 months. I have bought Sea of Thieves on PS5 (earning MS more money on that than my 1 month subscription to gamepass). Resident Evil 4 for £20 and Diablo 4 for £25 (again earning MS more buying this than buying a sub). Tell me how it's best for gaming I pay $7 and play the latest and greatest for a month. Rather than just buying what I want even if it means waiting a few months and getting it cheaper than full price yet earning the publisher more than renting said games of a monthly sub.

Hofstaderman3h ago

Sony has never released new titles day one. They experimented with Forbidden West which was fairly new and quickly discovered that it cannabalized sales. XBOX gamepass was always an act of desperation to remain relevant and in their desperation they effectively dug their grave where today everybody is biding their time for their formerly exclusive titles. In a nutshell GamePass made XBOX not relevant.

lellkay3h ago

Literally dev who put game on gamepass:
It's not good

TheProfessional: but but sony but sony

S2Killinit2h ago(Edited 2h ago)

Sony didnt copy MS. MS copied Sony, then MS went on to make xbox a subscription device. Remember that part? Yeah.

MrNinosan1h ago

You're not too bright, right?

First of all, Sony didn't copy Microsoft regarding PS+ and GamePass, which you admit to early in your comment, but with some faults. PSNow was not only streaming.
The mentality at Xbox gamers, is to NOT buy games, because they are used to get it on GamePass, preferbly day 1 like with all Xbox Studios games.

This is not a thing at PS+ and never was.
Sure there was plenty day 1 games on PS+ like, Rocket League, Stray, Sea of Stars, Tchia, Operation Tango etc, but those didn't take away from gamers that it was more like a "bonus" than a "thing".

Playstation gamers buy games, a lot of games and PS+ has been proving to be way better for business than GamePass, both by actually having more subscribers but also no eating up sales.

dveio1h ago(Edited 1h ago)

"Only biased PS fans would defend paying more to a corporation rather than an option that's cheaper for the consumer overall.“

How can you possibly come to this conclusion?

First, you pay for a subscription.

Then download games. But games will eventually leave the service. You will again need to buy them if you want to play them ever again. Or if you cancel your subscription. Right?

Eventhough this may NOT have an effect on every subscriber, this IS in fact the economical motiviation behind the service like GP.

If you are not already paying "double" this way, you pay at a 1.2 or maybe even at a 1.5 ratio eventually than opposed to simply buying the game in the first place.

As I said, this maybe doesn't apply to every subscriber. But this doesn't erase the fact of this business model existing. And possibly keep growing.

It's driving me nuts at times that especially the die hard Xboxers seem not to understand what they are actually cheering for foolishly.

The Wood52m ago

xbots always tryna group...

..they'll never understand or refuse to acknowledge why these two console brands are miles apart. Gamespass isn't the golden egg some would have you believe. Its hit its peak and is nowhere near the demanded target of subs by the purse holders

The Wood36m ago(Edited 32m ago)

xbots always tryna group...

..they'll never understand or refuse to acknowledge why these two console brands are miles apart. Gamespass isn't the golden egg some would have you believe. Its hit its peak and is nowhere near the demanded target of subs by the purse holders. on top of that it seems more devs on top of the devs that have shunned the service are not seeing the value of subs vs actual sales. Sell first, sub later works better than sub off the bat. MSGaming has a major sea change decision to make regarding COD. Do they release it dod and lose a high portion of up front revenue or either up the price of gp on the whole or create an even higher sub tier to cushion the blow or don't release it on gp at all and potentially damage the good will gesture reiterated not too long ago. The acquisition money wasn't free money....they'll have to pick their poison

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Skuletor5h ago

I feel no sympathy for the guy, it doesn't take a genius to figure out that putting your game on gamepass would affect sales.

dveio3h ago(Edited 3h ago)

The 'day-one' feature is the breaker or maker with GP, business-wise.

GP is no Netflix.

Because, from all the Marvel's Avengers to Sicarios, illustratively speaking, they all had their box office money. Before they had entered Netflix.

This concept shows you what Microsoft have actually put themselves into.

And what situation studios put themselves into if they go day-one into GP.

truthBombs3h ago

Why not sell your game the traditional way first? Then after about 6 months to a year put it on a sub service.

Day one on gamepass is a gamble. It works for some (Pal world) and not for others.

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Istanbul based developer teases new game based on Turkish mythology

Shadowfall Studios have announced via X.com the studio is now an official PlayStation partner.

darksky1d 4h ago

https://www.shadowfallstudi...

Looks like a Skyrim clone. Very interesting if done well.

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Terry_B1d 2h ago

Is there even one good game created in the Turkey so far?

PitbullMonster1d 2h ago

Metin 1&2 and the Mount and Blade Series are the most known ones.

Michiel19891d 2h ago

Metin ....how dare you name that in the same sentence with the word "good"

Cacabunga23h ago

Crytek says hi.. learn before posting

Zeke6822h ago

"Crytek was founded by the Turkish-German brothers Cevat, Avni and Faruk Yerli in September 1999 in Coburg, Germany."

So he's right, Crysis games are not made IN Turkey... ;)

Terry_B18h ago

Just as Zeke mentioned..Crytek is a German developer, created by a turkish guy who lives there, was probably born there.

What I meant are games completely made in the country

MrNinosan15h ago

@Terry
3 turkish guys, not 1.

ghostliving13h ago

-Mount & Blade: Warband
-Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord
-Oddmar
-Anomaly Agent
-Demonologist
-Stygian: Reign of the Old Ones
-Cardboard Town
-Conarium
-Monochroma

S2Killinit18h ago

What is turkish mythology? They don't have a mythology of their own. Unless we are going to rewrite history? Can someone fill us in on what mythology turkey has.

Eonjay16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

It could mean folklore, proverb, or even fairytale like Jack and the magic beanstalk. It could even just be lore about historical figures like you even see in American culture like Jonny Appleseed (a real person whose life story was mythologized).

S2Killinit16h ago

I see. I was thinking in terms of actual deities. But that makes sense.

purple10113h ago

You know that thing called google. (Or DuckDuckGo, depending on preference 😏)

Have a go at it sometime. It’s good

https://en.wikipedia.org/wi...

TheCaptainKuchiki1h ago

Do you even know what "mythology" means?

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Is 2K Games actually making FIFA 25, the next “best” entry yet?

FIFA president Gianni Infantino teases the future of FIFA games in a brand-new interview, and NBA 2K24 studio 2K Games might be behind it.

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Cacabunga2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I truly hope so.. day one buy

Ninver2d ago

Time for a change. Football games haven't evolved much.

Cacabunga2d ago

It’s tough when there is no competition

Abear211d 19h ago

There’s PES and now we’ll have FC25 and FIFA so yes, but it is no longer true, shit is about to get real!

Now if we only had two viable options for Basketball and American football we’d be on to something.

MrNinosan1d 15h ago

@Abear21
PES didn't exist since 2020, and the rebranded eFootball is crap.

porkChop1d 12h ago

If what we've heard is true, the reason FIFA games don't change is literally because of FIFA itself rejecting nearly every pitch for new features and mechanics.

anast2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The barber shop and roulette wheel are going to be awesome.

Abear211d 19h ago

Pay to win is the new free to play

CrimsonWing692d ago (Edited 2d ago )

It’ll be monetized to all hell, regardless

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

Hmmm, let’s see how they do. If they riddle it with microtransactions, hell no. Otherwise, I’m excited.

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