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IGN: SOCOM: Confrontation Impressions

Last week, Sony and Slant 6 released the latest chapter in the SOCOM franchise on the PS3. The highly anticipated SOCOM: Confrontation hit stores as both a standalone title and bundled with a headset, and it was also available for download from the PSN. However, shortly after the release, the problems with the game started, with numerous reports of server outages, game issues and other problems that made the retail game feel much more like an "open open beta" than a fully complete title.

This was a problem for media and consumers alike, and IGN spent the last week trying to fully understand what was going on with this game by playing as much as they could to give some early impressions.

Lord Shuhei Yoshida5698d ago (Edited 5698d ago )

Just refuse the M$ bags of cash IGN and everything will be ok

I'm off to another thread with my MAX SPEED!!!

Sena Kobayakawa5698d ago (Edited 5698d ago )

See I dont Flame but how you guys going to explain this

"But I do admit that I'm extremely surprised that there would be so many technical issues with one of the larger franchises for Sony, especially with such a rabid SOCOM community still active in the world. But, until that patch has become available, reviewing the game isn't even possible right now"

its easy to call everything a flop.but take some of your games in consideration.

Im of to another thread with my MAX SPEED!!!!

PirateThom5698d ago

Simple.

Slant Six messed up.

Blademask5698d ago (Edited 5698d ago )

This entire fanboy nonsense was spawned from 360 fans bashing every PS3 title under the sun after e3 and last year. "FLOP's" were born with the attitude towards the ps3, its delays, and game lineup.

That single quote of yours highlights the problem. Thats completely obvious, but it wasn't preached back when everyone was laughing at Lair, and even as recent as haze. No one remembered the 360's entire launch lineup with the exceptions of only 3 games, the ps3 wasn't alone creating flops. I know this will go over your head, and the rest of the idiots that should be in the open zone, but thats the truth.

Ps3 fans laughing at every single 360 release this year is purely just retribution for last year. I doubt anyone honestly believes that either system is impervious to creating flops, again. look at the 360's entire year before fable2. But that doesn't mean that some how Ps3 owners need to reflect on themselves for participating in the same lame rational and definitions that 360 owners created. According to the Microsoft VS PS3 bible:

- Anything below 90% Is a Flop**
- Anything that doesn't sell 8 million Is a Flop
- The PS3 can't outsell the 360 in America, Europe, and Japan
- Multiplats show console power

Now, every single one of those things has been tossed under the bus. But all you will hear is 'buh buh' rebuttals, which ultimately just end up in 'well i hate the f&(&ing ps3 anyway' due to its pricing and affordability.

You are pointing out the double standard which ignites the fanboy wars. But if they weren't made in the first place the community wouldn't be like it is right now.

People loved to laugh at the Ps3's average game scores, then when the 360 got nothing but average games, the laughing stopped, and the more rational people said 'Hey thats fine, reviews are stupid anyway.' Which again, is obvious. But it was used as something to attack ps3 games with.

Simple solution to stop the fanboy nonsense? Give credit where credit is due. Simple as that. The problem here is no one was saying Fable2 was going to flop, or Gears2. Especially in this atmosphere of media. But you can't neglect the fact that every PS3 game that scores under 80% is deemed a flop, and questions about the CELL come up, and when it scores well its, "WELL SHOULDA BEEN AT LAUNCH!" But don't pretend that every game on a console is going to be gold, and that goes for anyone.

PirateThom5698d ago

One of the most sensible things ever written on here.

PimpHandStrong5698d ago

Slant Six had made 2 PSP games b4 this one!

FACT

They bit off more then they could chew and they might choke to death if they dont fix it

thereapersson5698d ago

Great post, Blademask. Here's a bubble for posterity.

cereal_killa5698d ago

Same here Blade bubbles excellent comment!!!

chaosatom5698d ago

One who call AAA title to every ps3 game or Flop to every xbox game and between ones.I, for example, didn't say that socom is a hit or anything.

I think they did do a mistake by releasing it too early. They need more time.

ShinMaster5698d ago (Edited 5698d ago )

A patch is coming soon.
Hopefully that will clear problems. Nah, I'm positive the servers will run much smoothly.

CHEF5698d ago

Although this is my first post , I have frequented this site since late 2005 curious for any news on the release of the xbox360. As the 360 launched, I remember the pro Sony camp jump on any negative news about Microsoft's new console. It was called "Xbox 1.5" and anyone who had anything to say positive about the 360 was an "xbot". To me, this was the norm until the delayed release of the PS3, it's high price and the release of Gears of War. From that point, the site became even in terms of fans of either console making comments. There were great debates between both camps from really articulate veterans who unfortunately no longer frequent this site.

Fast forward to Microsoft's "semi confession" to the RROD problems and pro Sony fans began returning or at least began commenting again with certain confidence. The tide really turned with the release of MGS4 which was given great scores by virtually all the gaming sites. Couple that with a "dry up" of Xbox360 excusives after Halo3 and the death of HD-DVD.

Forgive me for rambling on but the point I wanted to bring up Blademask is this....this site, in the beginning, was heavily frequented by pro-Sony fans who outnumbered the Xbox fans. And I must say, the pro-Sony camp was pretty ruthless in the "good old days".

Oh by the way, I agree with you with giving credit where credit is due. Although I only own a 360 at the moment, I'm looking forward to owning a PS3 as soon as I get the 1080p lcd 52" Samsung this November.

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Scotracer5698d ago

I don't understand how it can go from the 1.6 patch on the Beta working fairly well to this mess? I was planning on picking up at UK launch (28th November) and it looks like that's a great idea as the bugs MAY be ironed out by then.

DaTruth5698d ago

Europeans might get their copies working right out of the box. No patching necessary.

TheExecutive5698d ago

lol they cant even review the game because its completely broken.

Panthers5698d ago

I can play it every time i get on, but i am glad they are waiting. Socom probably should have been held back, but I am glad to be playing it right now.

Martini5698d ago

Wow that's pretty bad - I wonder if the retailers would be willing to refund your money for a lemon like this.

Lord Shuhei Yoshida5698d ago

I don't think so.Many people tried to return their malfunctioning 360s.The retailers said no.

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Games to Play if You Miss SOCOM

Last year I wrote an article titled, The State of SOCOM. I discussed my
love and history for the beloved third person shooter that helped pioneer
online multiplayer on consoles. It has been six years since we last had a
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LOOK_AT_THIS_I2472d ago

Baffles me as to why they have not done anything with this franchise. Seeing as how it was #1 on the official PlayStation poll.

With all the trash put up weekly on the App Store why has nobody done a clone of this yet. I've been playing Defiance as my go to 3rd person since 2013 but still nothing like that old school Socom/Socom 2 up all night gameplay.

ONESHOTV22472d ago

the only game on that list that's like socom is wild land if you want socom type games then you will have to invest in a PC

USMC_POLICE2472d ago

You are looking at the view point I.e 3rd person view. Rainbow six siege is probably most like socom aside from H-Hour

Majin-vegeta2472d ago

Army training grounds its F2P.

ion6662472d ago

Insurgency Socom mod perfect adaption. Play it

C-H-E-F2472d ago

RAINBOW SIX: is the closest you'll get to Socom.

Also, in response to @lookatthisi

They let go the creators, and I think socom is a game that's hard to clone even the creators had a hard time making Socom 2, Socom 3.

LOOK_AT_THIS_I2471d ago

No way man. The devs at Trion made Defiance. I know different genres different games but this could have very easily turned into a war game rather than a kill the mutants/aliens games. Ghost recon actual gameplay is about the closest to the old Socom feel due to the squad format and team commands but it was still clunky at times. Using the wheel was cumbersome to command teammates and strategies on how you approcahed a scenario.

FFS you could control your teammates with a microphone in the ps2 days. You can't tell me that it is that hard when people throw up mods on the pc all the time that mirror the original games using random game engines. These are professionals with money/tech that most people don't have access to.

(Seth Luisi was the problem at zipper, he tried capturing ghost recon/cod fans with Socom by slowly turning the Socom series into Frankenstein GR/COD lite games)

C-H-E-F2471d ago

Getting that feel, that rush being the last one alive, Rainbow Six is the closest I got to that feeling since Confrontation. And we all know that was a horrible Socom, but looking back at it, SC was a great game just had a horrible release.

I didn't play defiance, but ghost recon is and was trash.

InTheZoneAC2471d ago

A lot will defend Seth saying he was a puppet, but his inactions or actions didn't help. He helped ruin the franchise.

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Would You Buy SOCOM Confrontation for One Penny?

JM:
"Would you purchase a game you can’t play for a single penny? Video game retailer GameStop seems to think that it is worth trying to sell to this market."

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user74029313591d ago

no, but i would buy a socom ps2 remastered collection for $60.00

XBLSkull3591d ago

Yeah I would definitely pay for a SOCOM remaster. Easily Sony's best franchise by a long shot, too bad they've managed to ruin it.

morganfell3590d ago

Back to the actual question, I own SOCOM Confrontation. The game was attacked relentlessly when it appeared. Some of those attacks were warranted. However one of the big things they used to assault the game was, "It's multiplayer only"

Where is that accusation now?

How is that MP only games suddenly get a pass?

If you stuck it out with SOCOM Confrontation you know that it took a lot of patches and 6 months. But if you kept your course you know a great secret. Confrontation eventually became a kick ass SOCOM game. Plenty of people played it the first week or the first month and dropped it. But to those that stuck around you know the game, eventually, kicked ass. I am not excusing it's state out of the box. But in the same breath I will also say it evolved into something deserving the SOCOM name.

TyBREAKR3590d ago (Edited 3590d ago )

Morganfell is right. That game was the most fun I had had in a Tps in a long time after it got fixed. It was very tactical.

guitarded773590d ago

Yup. Confrontation turned into a much better game over time. Just as MAG did. Too bad they're useless to own now (Which I do). I'm just hoping Sony brings back SOCOM on PS4 in a big way. I'd also like a Warhawk game. The shooter market has turned into to many twitch run, shoot, kill, die, spawn games. I like the slower pace of SOCOM, and the openness of Warhawk... actually, I just really prefer 3rd person shooters. Can't wait for Star Wars Battlefront. DICE better make it 3rd person. It can have a 1st person option like the others, but what fun is it to turn into a super character, and you can't see them?

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JackOfAllBlades3591d ago

That's a remaster I'm down for!

Afistnu3591d ago (Edited 3591d ago )

Only $60? I'd HAPPILY pay $60 for each PS2 Socom game. Hell, make it $250 and I'd pay it! Socom 1 and 2 are worth more alone!

Socom is 12 years old and still has better online features than multi million dollar games of 2014! Lobbies, User Created Ranked Rooms, able to allow or disallow certain weapon types, no explosions, and guess what?! The community back then actually voted out the scrubs who used OP weapons. Now THAT you don't see now days. If you pulled out the M203 in Socom, your ass was voted out before you even blinked.

meatnormous3591d ago

You bring back so many memories. You are absolutely right about the m203, that shit didn't fly back then.

TheDude793590d ago

Wasn't the IW80-A2 another popular "noob" gun that got lots of people kicked out for using? The M14...now that gun took some time to master, at the launch of SOCOM 2 anyways.

incredibleMULK3590d ago (Edited 3590d ago )

Glitchy garbage. Why pay $60 for a ps2 game on a new console, just play your old ps2.

The reason it did so well is there were no other ps2 multi player games to play. Look at the ps3 socom games....they didn't do so hot because people had battlefield, call of duty, Killzone,.....lots of choices.....socom suffered when the fans found new games.

If Sony didn't waste their $360 million on psnow they could've kept zipper opened and made another socom AND mag.

creatchee3590d ago

@DirtyPimp

I put in over 3,000 hours of SOCOM II. I'd pay more than 60 bucks for a simple HD version. Just give me East 19, Central 7, the breach maps, and Foxhunt all in glorious high definition and I'll gladly revisit the early 2000's on a nightly basis.

C-H-E-F3590d ago (Edited 3590d ago )

The servers are down.. I wouldn't buy any.. on top I own all except Socom 4... I couldn't dare taint my collection any more.

BTW: H-Hour is the new Socom... supposed to be S2 all over again... with some S1 mechanics.

nunley333590d ago

For a collector to have it on the shelf i can see them buying it,it's just a penny.

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admiralvic3591d ago

Depends the situation. Usually if they have a trade in X and get Y bonus for preowned purchases, a store will let you have the excess credit if you make 1 purchase and 1 cent is cheap enough where I wouldn't have to bother returning it or eating the cost out of laziness.

iamnsuperman3591d ago

1p isn't bad if you want a complete collection even if it is unplayable

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Daily Reaction: Game Over, Man

Stan replied passionately, sadness creasing his face, “they’re shutting us down. Offline, man, off-fucking-line. I dedicated my life to this, and it’s just ending. This is the last battle.” - PSLS

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Foolsjoker3968d ago

I am going to miss MAG and the SOCOM games.

doctorstrange3968d ago

Help me H-Hour, you are my only hope.

pixelsword3968d ago

Where did it say that MAG was shutting down?

pixelsword3968d ago

It would have been nice if they added that to the actual article instead of the wannabe tear-jerker stuff.

fenome3968d ago (Edited 3968d ago )

@pixelsword

I know right, I was thinking the same thing. It was more of a read between the lines and pick up the pieces in the comment section..

I didn't even really try this game, I almost picked it up a couple days at my local gameswap though. Glad I didn't now, I'm gonna have to let those guys know that the games a bust now.

This is exactly why I don't want an all digital future. Once the servers go down that's it, game over. I like that I can still put my Super Nintendo games in the console and it'll work even after all these years...

pixelsword3967d ago

I own(ed) it, I got a platinum and once I did, I went on once in a while, but never like I did before; I might put it in once or twice before the servers go down, or maybe I'll sell it to gamestop before they realize it.

TheUndertaker853967d ago (Edited 3967d ago )

The game was very under supported. I got my platinum then put some more time into it after. I stopped playing after one of those "Play with the Devs" days. Damn Devs always were on SVER and screwing over the other teams.

I caught one dev so desperate to show superiority he was altering things in the background for himself. Caught him multiple times with a bunker rocket only for him to stand there unphazed. After a bit I wasn't the only one on my platoon catching the BS at work. Since I rarely bother to go back. I do play with my cousin when he gets the urge to go play, otherwise I avoid it.

Have a few of my PSN friends looking to play before the servers get shut down. Probably will join in on that. I'm hoping MAG 2 happens for PS4 more than anything, hopefully without Zipper in the background this time. I have my digital copy on PSN for the time being though.

pixelsword3967d ago

Dude, they ALWAYS play SVER because the balance is in SVER's favor, and people have been complaining about that since the beta, plus they do change the background. Once in the beta, I found a good spot to ding one of SVER's bunkers, and the next day, the put a tree or a bar where I was so I could not do it.

In that sense, I'm glad Zipper is gone.

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dbjj120883968d ago

So long Mag. You were a promise... sort-of fulfilled.

Dead_Cell3968d ago (Edited 3968d ago )

Ask any player who put any decent amount of time in and they'll tell you it was promise fulfilled. It may not have reached the top sales or following ever but for the community and the people who cared for it, it delivered a hell of a lot.

sobekflakmonkey3968d ago (Edited 3968d ago )

That's what I've been hearing, I really hope they return to that game and make it a franchise, bring it back on PS4 with updated graphics, fix some of those bugs, as well as some of the mechanics, that shit would be awesome, they could have had a HUGE following for that game.

TheSaint3968d ago

Until Zipper broke it.

It was brilliant for a while.

Wedge193968d ago

MAG, I loved that game once upon a time

0pie3968d ago

i hope they will stop selling retail copies of mag if they close the game servers.

Dead_Cell3968d ago

They already have, it's removed from PSN along with all DLC and now it's just up to the retailers to stop supplying online.

0pie3967d ago

Thank you for the info sir. :)

TD_hastetheday3968d ago

MAG will be missed, my all-time favorite shooter. They're shutting servers down in January.

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