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Trust Me, You Don’t Want Cyberpunk 2077 in Third-Person

Twinfinite writes "Arguably the biggest revelation was that Cyberpunk 2077 is to be a first-person RPG, a complete departure from the third-person perspective that CDPR has forged its prestige on with the critically acclaimed Witcher series.

Shock, horror. The internet wasn’t just unamused, it was downright furious. For many, apparently, CDPR is making a ruinous mistake that has spoiled what might potentially be a new masterpiece.

Few, if any, of course, have actually seen the game in action. So I’m here to allay those concerns and tell you why Cyberpunk 2077 is better off embracing a new perspective. And, for the record, I typically prefer third-person games."

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Yukes2151d ago

Given the focus on gun combat first person definitely makes more sense. I don't get the backlash at all.

PhantomS422151d ago

Self-proclaimed CDPR fans showing that they aren't really fans at all and are just part of the outraged community, never happy with anything in life and only looking for the next thing that they can be angry at.

ILostMyMind2151d ago

They are showing they are fans of its games, not fans of the company itself. And this approaching is changing this.

Chaos_Order2151d ago

For the record, I've never played a CDPR game before and I'm actually happy that Cyberpunk is first person as I'm a fan of Deus Ex. One of my most anticipated games as of right now.
But I can't take you seriously at all when you start accusing people of not being "true fans" because they dislike a certain type of game. You can be a fan of a series or developer and still have misgivings about a direction they take. People who played and adored The Witcher games do not owe CDPR anything. Not one thing. If they don't like the idea of Cyberpunk being first person they should be able to express as such and decide not to buy the game and it's up to CDPR to convince them otherwise. Why they should be looked down upon as "not true fans" is beyond me. If being a fan of something holds me to a particular standard that I shouldn't step outside of for fear of shame then I don't consider myself a fan of anything, ever. Not one thing on planet earth. At least then I have freedom and can actually express myself without backlash, apparently.

BiggerBoss2151d ago

Do you really not understand why fans of the Witcher would be upset with an FPS game? Seriously?

nowitzki20042150d ago

True CD Projekt is one of the very few devs that I trust 100%.

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spicelicka2151d ago

I don't get the "should be" argument anyway. It's a design choice, they chose to do it in first person for a reason and have been building the game up with that design choice. Saying it SHOULD BE third person means nothing because they can't just change it on the fly.

zeuanimals2151d ago

Well, yeah. That's why it should be first person, because they've designed the world to work better in first person.

I don't know why they don't just offer a 3rd person mode like plenty of other games, though. 1st person is great for placing yourself into a world and for being able to interact with small objects in the world. 3rd person would just be cool to see your unique character walking the streets and doing some badass stuff.

bigmalky2151d ago (Edited 2151d ago )

I've been playing CDPR games since the first Witcher... No idea what the problem is, other than people wanting a scifi game in the Witcher RPG style...

Trust the dev, not the genre.

The Witcher has changed it's style over all three games and succeeded, I'm pretty sure they'll nail FPSRPG.

badz1492151d ago

@spicelika

"Saying it SHOULD BE third person means nothing because they can't just change it on the fly."

eh...GTAV says hi

starchild2151d ago

@ zeuanimals

Yeah but they chose first person perspective for their game. Should we start demanding Ghost of Tsushima or Assassin's Creed Odyssey offer first person modes? Does every game now have to offer first and third person options?

It's not always really feasible anyway. Just because some games have done it doesn't mean it would work well with every game. The tighter and more complex the gameplay is in a game the more closely tied it's going to be to its perspective.

spicelicka2146d ago

@badz 149

Eh that's precisely my point. For games like GTA it's a gimmick, it's designed to be played in third person, first person mode is wonky and just there as a fun feature.

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Araragifeels 2151d ago

If they going to focus on first person then might as well take off customization in the game since it will be pointless since you can't see your character unless you are in a cutscenes.

overrated442151d ago (Edited 2151d ago )

And during dialog with NPCs....which is a large part of the game, I'm willing to bet you see yourself quite a bit.

joab7772151d ago

I get the initial backlash, but once ya stop for a second and consider games like Bioshock, Half-life and others and imagine an open world with CDPR’s ability to tell a story with branching narrative, and mix in customization and rpg elements, and damn...FPS for the immersion win!!!

ninerguy16082151d ago

Because 3rd person will let people see their pink skirts they put on their character. So important to the gameplay. Lol

syphon322150d ago

The back lash is from butt hurt fanboys of the witcher series who think every game from CDPR should be like the witcher.. i say, allow artist to make art, allow creators to create..

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FTLmaster2151d ago

The backlash seems pretty petty imho. I usually prefer my RPGs to be in first-person anyway tbh.

rpvenom2151d ago

I think the main backlash is people's thought are that there will be a load of customization options thus making them want to be able to see their custom characters. You can't see that in first person.

xenz2151d ago

But you can. How you ask?

1) You can see your body when you look down and are sliding.
2) You have mirrors where you can see your character.
3) There's cutscenes.
4) You'll see mods and implants on your arm.

I'm fine with how they did it.

MorpheusX2150d ago (Edited 2150d ago )

@rpvenom

Bingo, & Exactly. You nailed it .

That is the "main" point of contention.

Part of the Marketing for Cyberpunk 2077 , sold it's fans on the "idea" of character customization options.

Character customization options w/o the "option of " 3rd person perspective , lessons the opportunity to interact with/see your custom character in full view.

I like 1st person view, I like 3rd person view, .....why not have an option for both?

Why does it have to be 1 or the other?

Especially considering " initially " 3rd person perspective was to be included.

Now it's not an option, it's been pulled or changed , for better for worse , whatever side of the fence you sit on....point is:

It's natural that some fans who were "looking forward" to the 3rd person perspective option, are displeased.

I include myself, I'm displeased, ..but not throwing the "baby out with the bath water.

Still looking forward to sinking my teeth into this game when it drops, hopefully in 2019.

ravenl0rd2151d ago

I get it. I'm neutral at this point until I see it in action. Now, what if the Elder Scrolls 6 was announced in third person. What would people's reactions be?

attilayavuzer2151d ago

Yeah but third person in ES has always been a dumpster fire.

Shiken2151d ago

The only reason people are crying is because Witcher was 3rd person. Despite Cyberpunk being a totally different game, people concluded that this was CDPR's design choice for all games. Because it was not that they think, and we live in a society of entitled crybabies, people want to act like they know what the game should be better than the ones making the game.

It works the other way around as well. If CoD and Battlefield were all of a sudden exclusively 3rd person, fans would outrage. Does not mayter how much better it may or may not be.

As a rational human being however CDPR has already proven themselves in my eyes. Day one for me, I want to experience their vision. Not the vision of these so called "fans" complaining. Constructive criticism is one thing, but bashing a dev's vision just because it is a different style than you expect is just pathetic.

BiggerBoss2151d ago

@shiken

I get what you're saying, but if a studio like Naughty Dog said they were releasing an FPS like COD, they would be met with TONS of criticism.

The same goes for CDPR.

Shiken2151d ago

@Biggerboss

But cyber punk is not a FPS like CoD, so there is not reason to complain.

What people need to realize is no one knows what the gameplay is even going to be like. They just hear FPS and when it is not exactly what they expected, they cry and moan over potentially nothing. It is sad to say the least.

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JackBNimble2151d ago

Not everyone is into first person, they should have had the option for 1st or 3rd person views like so many other games out there.

Saigon2151d ago

Thank You!!! Someone gets it. I am not knocking the game...I just want the option to play in FPs or TPs.

Aceman182151d ago

I actually like my RPGs in 3rd person feels smoother to me.

Kavorklestein2151d ago

I ONLY play Skyrim in 1st person, Unless I feel like randomly glancing at my character while strolling around or putting on a new piece of armor etc...Otherwise I ONLY play in 1st person.

I'm fine with CDPR going for the FPS design choice. I hope they excel at telling a great story that pulls me in.

BiggerBoss2151d ago

I also play Skyrim in 1st person, but CDPR games are NOT like Skyrim at all.

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Hungryalpaca2151d ago

Why would I trust you? You haven’t even seen the game.

OB1Biker2151d ago (Edited 2151d ago )

Preference you know?
There are people who don't like first person view. How good the game maybe in first person view has nothing to do with it.
Tolerate others preference please guys

Edit
Why would an option be a bad thing anyway? If you can choose the perspective why would that bother you?

Hungryalpaca2151d ago

@OB1

Where did I say anything negative about his preference? I asked why should I trust someone who hasn’t seen the game...

OB1Biker2151d ago (Edited 2151d ago )

'I asked why should I trust someone who hasn’t seen the game..'
I pretty sure you can trust me to know what i want, and I don't see why you would not trust him if he says he does want it.
Again, I can only speak for myself but I don't play FPS simple as that.

Hungryalpaca2151d ago

And if you want a 3rd person game that’s being designed as a first person game of which you haven’t seen, again, why would I trust him over the developers who are designing it? My question still hasn’t been answered.

yeahright22150d ago

Because he knows what he wants more than you do.
He's not saying to trust him that we all want third person, he's saying he himself wants third person.

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ChrisW2151d ago

And you only care just because a couple people got the brilliant idea to make an issue out of a non-issue topic.

yeahright22150d ago

No, he just doesn't like first person. The only reason you can't accept that is because you like CDPR so much that everything they do is infallible to you.

bluefox7552151d ago

I generally prefer third person, but given CDPR's track record, I'm more than happy to give them the benefit of the doubt.

ZeroX98762151d ago

With all the great games they made, I think they know what they're doing by now. If that's how they want to do their game, so be it! I'll be supporting them for sure :D

ILostMyMind2151d ago

Oh, sure, they'll make a great third person shooter. I just don't think that's what RPG fans expected.

raWfodog2151d ago (Edited 2151d ago )

You're all crazy. I want the game in second-person so I can just follow the main character around the game and watch what they do. Maybe give them some advice on making smart life choices.
:)

Link2DaFutcha2151d ago

Hahaha, so Detroit: Become Human? Would that be a 2nd person game? I want to explore this more.

Goldby2151d ago

unforntunyl not, beause at the end of the day we are still contorllign other characters, the clsoest we have to 2nd person is stanley parable

Goldby2151d ago

that actually isnt 2nd character.
2nd character perspective is the Stanley Parable experience.

the narrator is a character in the game, and they are narrating your gameplay that you do.

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Cyberpunk 2077 Director On 95% Positive Steam Rating: "Never Thought I'd See It"

Cyberpunk 2077 has come a long way from being one of the worst games on the planet to being one of the best ones.

DustMan3d ago

I shelved it after a few hours in game at launch, glad I didn't refund it. One of the few games I've actually completed in the last year, and after finishing the campaigns I wanted to just jump back in from the start. They pulled a No Mans Sky and finished one of the best FPS in the last few years.

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Games That Were Bad on Release, But Are Now Great

BLG writes, "Some of the most popular games have had a rough start, with some of them being downright unplayable.

Despite that, developers have managed to turn it around for them and make their game worth playing. Here are some games that had a rough start but were pretty great."

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Terry_B15d ago

Good list..hoped to see Street Fighter 5 there..and it is.

Vits15d ago (Edited 15d ago )

Sea of Thieves... I'm not disagreeing that the game has improved in terms of content. But I feel that the most significant change between now and its release is actually the public perception. Nowadays, most people are aware that the game is a multiplayer PvP-focused experience first and foremost, and not "Black Flag made by Rare". Consequently, people dismissing the whole experience because the single-player aspect is lacking or the story is plain are much less common.

darthv7215d ago

Several years ago, i submitted an idea to Rare that would change up the mechanics of battling opponents in the game. whereby if you died in battle, you turned into a skeleton warrior and had to fight your way back to the land of the living. It was an interesting twist on respawning and would allow the player to experience both sides of a battle.

I keep hoping to see something like that get added to the game.

Kaii15d ago

They consider FO 76 & ME Andromeda to be great now 🤭

anast15d ago

Every game in the last 2 decades...

INMATEofARKHAM15d ago

It's sad that this quick retort is more often than not true... The industry's acceptance of release and patch has gone too far.

gunnerforlife14d ago

Days gone! By the end of the game I couldn't drop it down! I went around so many hours killing zombies! It was addictive by the end.

S2Killinit14d ago

That game was just plain good game. It didnt improve, it was just good.

gunnerforlife14d ago

I don't know, I got it abit late, and struggled for a few days, and then all of a sudden it just got good!!

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Source Code For The Witcher 3 & Cyberpunk 2077 Has Allegedly Been Compromised

Source code for CD Projekt's action role-playing games The Witcher 3 and Cyberpunk 2077 have allegedly been compromised.

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just_looken28d ago

Well they are using unreal engine now thanks to there work culture and horrific job on making cyberpunk so for the future no impact.

But it will be interesting to see what mods will be made

https://rebel-wolves.com/

just_looken27d ago

7 disagrees shows how many look at one dlc that had a rip off fight from ghost in the shell and goes wow what a goat team i love cdpr while ignoring that they only made 2 games that were good witcher 2/3 in 20yrs.

But its a new world we want a criminal that support's legal murder as president/support shoplifting love toxic work environments and have a mass casualty event every other day.

GhostMirror27d ago

I’ll admit I didn’t play it at launch, but Cyberpunk 2077 is a really good game now.

And who the hell knows what you’re even going on about in your second paragraph here.

EazyC27d ago

Wait a min...I swear to god CP2077's source code got leaked before. CDPR needs to stop using "password123" for all their accounts 😅

just_looken27d ago

Na its hundreds ex employees no doubt just getting there revenge.

Profchaos27d ago (Edited 27d ago )

This is the same leak the threat actors have been trying to sell the source code after cd project didn't pay the ransom.

They didn't manage to sell the source code to any company largely because it would be unethical for say EA to buy it so the threat actors failed to find a buyer.

After they failed to make any money they went through with their threat of simply giving it away.