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Sony offers hope on PS4 console cross-play

From Eurogamer: "At the Gamelab conference in Spain today, Shawn Layden, president and CEO of Sony Interactive Entertainment America and chairman of SIE Worldwide Studios, and PS4 system architect Mark Cerny delivered a presentation about the legacy of PlayStation. At the end of the talk, Eurogamer reporter Robert Purchese put the cross-play issue to Layden."

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Geobros2162d ago

Finally a word from Sony for cross play!

Eonjay2162d ago ShowReplies(3)
Obscure_Observer2162d ago

And some people say that Sony denying Crossplay with other consoles is not a big issue. Lol.

ilikestuff2162d ago

I don’t think it’s a BIG issue, it’d be a nice feature to have though, I got xbox having friends that I’d like to play with, not enough to buy an Xbox though

G3ng4r2162d ago

Some people being the ones who live vicariously through their ps4s. The reasonable sony fans as well as the rest of the world don't care about the bitter minority's thoughts on crossplay, let them cry and adapt.

Razzer2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

Big issue to Xbox fanboys? Oh....there is no doubt.

Uken122162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

Well cross play isn't a huge deal. But locking out my Epic account so I can't play on my Switch or Xbox is f'ing BS. Fortnite for example. I have spent money on the battle pass and have a bunch of skins. None which I can use on my Switch. That has nothing to do with cross play, that's just crap. It's shady move and Sony should be held accountable for it.

They shouldn't lock out accounts like that. If you don't want to cross play, that's totally fine with me. But let me use my Epic account on other systems and similar things. It doesn't hurt Sony at all.

PS: @ G3ng4r and Razzer. When they lock out your 3rd party accounts and stuff like that, it is a big issue. I paid for it, there is no disclosure or info on it. It's a shady tactic. You two are being fanboys, not others. Use logic not feelings.

OffRoadKing2162d ago Show
UCForce2162d ago

@G3ng4r Abd you are no different than them.

Razzer2162d ago

@Uken

I didn’t say anything about locking accounts now did I? I was talking about cross play and Xbox fanboys who obsess over it.

kreate2162d ago

I don't want cross play. This is not a feature for me.

If I want to play w Xbox gamers, than I'll play on my Xbox. I'm on Xbox right now, we can play all day.

I'm not sure why Xbox fanboys are so desperate for PS4 to implement this.

letsa_go2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

Heyyyy, you xbox fanboys will get your wish and finally get to access the superior PSN! You guys will finally have some skilled people to play with. Woohoo! I wonder what you will find to complain about next once this is a nonissue. I can see xbox fanboys saying "It's not fair that PS4 gets so many 1st party exclusives! Sony should release them on xbox of they are anticonsumer!!"

Obscure_Observer2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

@OffRoadKing

"Its not a big issue, its just some people never shut up about it."

"Some people", "a few people", a "minority", the "fanboys from other camps". That´s all i hear from fanboys doing damage control on behalf of Sony over this Crossplay debacle and at the top at that, the DRM BS! "Oh... they are just protecting their business" Of course they are, Sony can´t do no wrong right?

No to Modes
No to EA Access
No to BC
No to Early Access
No to Crossplay
No to Cross-progression
No to your Third Party Account

For the Players, right? How many "no" do you fanboys need until you realize that aside delivering great first party games, Sony is becoming more of an very lockdown company? More than Nintendo ever was?

Any criticism people throw at them, get you fanboys mad talking sh!t BS about hate towards Sony. You are not here for the gamers, you are not here for Crossplay. You´re here to defend Sony like they´re paying you big money to do it. Something that Sony´s PR staff is not doing for them! Pathetic!

The Wood2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

Obscure_Observer

How do you feel about Free 2 Play games being behind a paywall on xbl

Just curious because I've seen soooo much energy being exerted by xbox guys here on N4g regarding xplay yet not even a fraction of this 'gamer friendly' rhetoric is being used on why F2P isn't F2P on their console of choice.... I guess you pick your battles as they say.

Lets hope sony can show some humility or be a bit more flexible on their xplay stance. For me, its not an issue but totally understand that it could be for many. For the xbox fanboys .......c'mon now you guys should worry about your own glass houses.

letsa_go2162d ago

@Obscure_Observer Sounds like you are #triggered! LMAOOOOOOOOO

MrBeatdown2162d ago

@The Wood

Fortnite being behind a paywall always cracks me up.

Microsoft and a lot of it's fans are more concerned with playing with PS4 gamers than they are letting Xbox players play with the other half of Xbox players.

Just goes to show the hypocrisy of Microsoft and the level of fact-picking some Microsoft cheerleaders resort to to crap on Sony as "anti-consumer".

I don't give a crap about Fortnight crossplay or account sharing with Xbox One, because even if Sony does allow it, I still can't play a free Fortnite game on my Xbox without coughing up some money.

darthv722162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

@wood... Most gamers that play online on Xbox already have Xbox Live which is why you don't see so much outcry over F2P. With PS4 launch PSN online went from free to paid but at least they kept the F2P games truly free to play. That does seem like something MS should change regarding F2P games but since it has been a paid service from the beginning... who knows if they will.

Sony was free for all online and now they aren't. Just like Sony was all for cross play with xbox and now they aren't. Things change just like how xbox backed off some of their features being behind gold paywall and now being interested in cross play. Roles reversed on both sides.

Obscure_Observer2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

@The Wood

"How do you feel about Free 2 Play games being behind a paywall on xbl"

I think this is a d!ck move and anti-consumer practice just like shoving down our throats Xbox Live Gold subscription for online multiplayer on Xbox consoles while on Windows 10 PCs, they offer online multiplayer for free!

I have no love for no company! All of them screw us over in the past and will continue to do so given the chance! Once they got too confortable, they tend to give the middle finger to those who lead them to the top! Us! That´s why healthful competition is important to keep them in check and grounded! At the momment, i have faith on people working on these companies trying to make them better. Once these people are gone or replaced, it´s time to be concerned again.

As it ever was, it is what it is; and always will be.

gangsta_red2162d ago

@the wood

Not everyone has to defend their preferred place of gaming.

If a company is pulling some off the wall stunts it should be called out. MS, Nintendo or Sony, along with any publisher or developer.

You can enjoy the games they provide and still comment on bad descions or practices.

We won't judge you ;-)

The Wood2162d ago

Fair enough obscure Darth and red.

Dick moves all around then

But red. . . It's the disproportionate energy I've seen regarding this vs issues that would be considered more important that miffs me. . Seen a lot of passionate comments that aren't mirrored elsewhere in vigor or frequency.. . . Just saying

CurbStompin2162d ago

Anyone who doesn’t own both at this point is just a broke ass casual. Move along.

Muzikguy2162d ago

“No to Modes
No to EA Access
No to BC
No to Early Access
No to Crossplay
No to Cross-progression
No to your Third Party Account”

First of all I’d just like to point out that some of those could easily be detrimental to Sony with what they’re plans have been. That’s part of the reason they don’t allow certain things on their service. Why do people seem to think that they should just have anything and everything, whatever they want? That’s not how business works.

Secondly I’d like to point out that all those things you’re drooling over that MS allows you to do hasn’t helped them now has it? Open your eyes.

badz1492162d ago

@Obsecure

it was never a big issue for Sony as shown by their continuous dominance in the market in terms of unit sales and software sales. even the Switch, which just released last year, sales pale in compared to the PS4 which is already in its 5th year on the market. so you see, it was NEVER an issue for Sony.

it's just as one popular saying, "the weakest dog barks the loudest" which has made the issue seems way overblown than what it actually worth in reality. Xbone is struggling in the market, has the lowest player count and continuously losing more and more market share to the PS4 and Switch even with their "most powerful console ever made", is championing this issue because they have everything to gain from it and it seems like they are trying their hardest to distract gamers from their main problem which is the lack of exclusive games!

meh...I don't care either way because if I really care about playing against xbone or switch player in the first place, I would have just bought the xbone or switch, not the PS4. keep begging! Who knows maybe one day Sony might feel charitable enough to entertain you guys, WHICH, I think in return, you guys will see it as Sony is hurting and is crawling back to ask MS or Nintendo for mercy!

Dragonscale2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

Its only a big issue for the fanatx. Any little pathetic irrelevant reason to bash sony as usual.

ScootaKuH2162d ago

It's not a big issue for me. I don't play games online so I couldn't care less

UNCHARTED2FANATIC2162d ago

It's not even a small issue, it's non existant. Fake news

UNCHARTED2FANATIC2162d ago

I'm guessing you're an xbox gamer? Cause you seem a bit ignorant or out the loop when it comes to ps

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kreate2162d ago

@obscure

I have plenty to complain about Sony and the PS4. But crossplay isn't one of them.

At the end of the day. Sony pumps out the games which trumps everything else.

gamer78042162d ago

this is a huge issue though, even if the lack of flexibility to play video games with others isn't one of them for you, it is for a good percentage of the gaming population

Gh05t2162d ago

Time and time again we are told "Exclusives sell consoles" how would this change what games you are playing or how many consoles Sony sells because of those games. All this does is allow people to truly pick their preferred multiplat machine... And it looks like Sony feels they would lose that battle or at least it would hurt badly enough to to put gamers second. Which is counter to what a lot of people around here claim.

I just find it weird that people wouldn't want more freedom to choose whatever best suits them and also want others to have that same freedom.

Muzikguy2162d ago

Games are what matters. All the other things that the losing side does can be seen as desperation. It’s not needed. Sure it would be cool, but at the end of the day that’s not what matters

ScootaKuH2162d ago

Exactly. The fact that Sony don't offer crossplay is of little consequence to me especially when the games I like most are exclusives anyway

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rainslacker2162d ago

And it to imply that theyre looking at it from a perspective of making it fluid for the developer like it is with pc because they have an api which can be used.

That makes a lot more sense than just trying to implement it on a per game basis, because if they do that then it becomes a pain to manage all these devs wanting to.do it.

If cross play is to become a normal feature, that's what needs to happen.

See journalists...
It isn't so hard to ask.questions to start getting answers. Much better than countless editorial pieces which don't actually do anything to solve the problem, or give people new information on what's going on

uth112162d ago

Layden also promised we would be able to change our PSN names by now. don't hols yoir breath

ErogeMaster2162d ago

So sfv and final fantasy xiv isn't crossplay.

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slate912162d ago

What a great question from the reporter.

MuddyWaters2162d ago

Yes it was and put Shawn on the spot for using his own words against him. This continues to be a BS answer though as he says it will be an answer that continues to support their business. That to me means they don't want to allow crossplay but may unlock Switch Fortnite accounts but will likely continue to lock out Xbox accounts as they see Xbox as a direct competitor. It's this cutthroat attitude from Sony that has manifested into the forums and why so many also act like the Xbox is the enemy. Sony continues to feed the toxicity and we see it every day on the forums.

Forn2162d ago

They're competitors! Sony literally has nothing to gain by adding cross-play.

MuddyWaters2162d ago

"They're competitors! Sony literally has nothing to gain by adding cross-play."

What are they going to lose besides negative press by doing so? Is Sony really that insecure about their lead? C'mon man. It's just more toxicity and cutthroat tactics.

ShadowWolf7122162d ago

Ah yes, it's SONY who did that. Not Xbox with their entire marketing campaign for the full duration of the 360's life cycle and continued into the Xbox One's.

Hell, Greenberg outright encouraged people to mock anyone with the other system for YEARS.

But yes. This is so cutthroat.

MuddyWaters2162d ago

ShadowWolf
"Ah yes, it's SONY who did that. Not Xbox with their entire marketing campaign for the full duration of the 360's life cycle and continued into the Xbox One's."

I don't recall Xbox locking out PlayStation accounts and preventing them to play that third party account, but please continue supporting such nonsense because something else happened years ago. Companies can change, too bad one refuses to and enjoys adding to the toxicity and feeding the fanboys who never change.

RauLeCreuset2162d ago

It's not a BS answer. It's probably the most honest response they've given. How many people have been telling you all that Sony is the one party that stands to lose money in this arrangement? I know I've said it. You see how easily cross-play slipped into cross-progression. Let me simplify. Cross-progression is a customer sharing arrangement, and because Sony would be pooling their larger customer base with their competitors' two smaller bases, they would likely lose money in that situation. If this is going to happen, their needs to be a revenue sharing arrangement that rewards Sony proportionally to their player base size.

UnHoly_One2162d ago

Nothing?

How about they gain appreciation from their customers for not being assholes?

What about maybe selling a console to the guy that is like "I want to get a PS, but all my friends only have Xbox."

I see your point, I totally do, and maybe it's better for them to deny cross play, but don't act like it would be a total loss with nothing positive coming from it.

I'll be honest, I don't really care if they do it or not. It would be nice, but it isn't going to ruin my gaming if they never do it. I'm not lacking for people to play with on Xbox.

MuddyWaters2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

RauLeCreuset,
"It's not a BS answer."

Sure it is, it's another delay tactic with no meat to it.

"Cross-progression is a customer sharing arrangement, and because Sony would be pooling their larger customer base with their competitors' two smaller bases, they would likely lose money in that situation. If this is going to happen, their needs to be a revenue sharing arrangement that rewards Sony proportionally to their player base size."

Excuse me? Whose to say more people don't play on PC or Mobile? You are excusing their crappy policy which is blocking Switch and Xbox One owners who may not have bought anything off on PSN. Heck they could have bought stuff on Mobile or PC and Sony still thinks they have a right to block access just because they played on PSN. You do not reward Sony for having a larger userbase by controlling the third party account, that's ridiculous. Sounds like another form of Net Neutrality. If PlayStation Network is such a great place then nobody would leave. People want to use their third party account and Sony feels they have a right to hold it hostage because it was once connected to PSN? Yeah, I don't think so.

raWfodog2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

I have a legit, non-trolling question since I honestly don't know the answer.

I've never played Destiny 1 or 2, so I'm asking does your characters level and equipment carry over between the XB and PS versions of the game(s)?

Obscure_Observer2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

@MuddyWaters

"That to me means they don't want to allow crossplay but may unlock Switch Fortnite accounts but will likely continue to lock out Xbox"

No. I don´t think Sony will allow access only for Switch Fortnite accounts. That would be a dumb move and could rise even more questions and generate more negative press for them.

RauLeCreuset2162d ago

@Muddy

It's not a BS answer or a delay tactic simply because you say so and want it to be. You're just making a claim without bothering to support it.

The rest of your comment goes a bit off the rails, even lumping in net neutrality. PC and mobile aren't their competitors in the console market. Ninty and MS are. Furthermore, I'm not sure what point you're trying to make suggesting there may be more players on PC and mobile. That just supports my argument that the smaller player bases of Switch and Xbox are a factor.

Sony having a larger user base means they are pooling more of their customers. That would be deserving of compensation in how they split the revenue from those pooled customers.

Neonridr2162d ago

@raWfodog - you are asking if two separate products that cost money are interchangeable? No. But Fortnite is free, and if I play it on my PC I can carry over progression to my PS4. Or my Xbox/Switch/phone (assuming I didn't link that account with my PS4 at any point otherwise I am SOL).

No 3rd party game that you buy has content that is unlocked across different hardware. But that the same situation as here.

rainslacker2162d ago

No. It means they have looked at it, and as of right now theyndont feel its good.for their business. The reasons why are still speculation, but maybe in another 2 years one of these journalist will.ask what the actual hold up.is

MuddyWaters2162d ago

"No. It means they have looked at it, and as of right now theyndont feel its good.for their business. The reasons why are still speculation, but maybe in another 2 years one of these journalist will.ask what the actual hold up.is"

They tried that 2 years ago and something about protecting the children was brought up. Luckily for Sony everyone will be grown ups by the time they actually address it so they won't have to worry about the children any longer.

rainslacker2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

BS. These journalist barely broach the topic when doing interviews. This is only the 2nd time in two years that Sony has responded to the issue. 3rd if you include a twitter response which ammounted to them saying they're still open to the idea.

Hundreds of articles about this are all based on mostly indie devs comments(and only a few at that), a bunch of comments from MS, and in response to other opinion pieces that these "journalist" insist on writing in their attempt to make Sony into the bad guy.

I've said it before, I'll say it again, the media as a whole doesn't seem to care about the reasons why. They don't care what's really going on. All they care about is their clicks, and the only thing that people seem to want to consider is whatever fits into their current view on the topic. Hell, remember when MS told Epic to remove the cross-play stuff from Fortnite? Who got blamed? Sony, because apparently they pull MS strings.

This was probably the most informative response from Sony. It said they've looked into it. It said that they don't feel it's right for their current business plans. They've said in the past that they aren't too keen on the fact they can't moderate other networks(the "think of the children" response). It said if they do it, they want to make sure it's fluid and easily implementable...like it is with PC right now. There was subtext to the response, and honestly, it was so well phrased, I'm thinking that the even the question may have been planned between Sony and the reporter in question.

But it wasn't a BS answer. The end result may still be BS if one wants cross play, but this is the most informative and direct response or comment we've had on the topic since this all became an issue.

MuddyWaters2162d ago

rainslacker
"BS. These journalist barely broach the topic when doing interviews. This is only the 2nd time in two years that Sony has responded to the issue. 3rd if you include a twitter response which ammounted to them saying they're still open to the idea."

You're right, it is BS that Sony barely responds.

"Hundreds of articles about this are all based on mostly indie devs comments(and only a few at that), a bunch of comments from MS, and in response to other opinion pieces that these "journalist" insist on writing in their attempt to make Sony into the bad guy."

Awww, poor Sony.

"I've said it before, I'll say it again, the media as a whole doesn't seem to care about the reasons why. They don't care what's really going on. All they care about is their clicks, and the only thing that people seem to want to consider is whatever fits into their current view on the topic. Hell, remember when MS told Epic to remove the cross-play stuff from Fortnite? Who got blamed? Sony, because apparently they pull MS strings."

This was on Fox news, it was also presented to Phil Spencer who was put on the spot about it by Jeff Gertsmann from Giant Bomb. You see, Phil will actually talk to people and try his best to answer as honest as possible. Sony does not no longer sit down with people like Giant Bomb. They think they are too good for that and don't want to be asked these types of questions.

"This was probably the most informative response from Sony. It said they've looked into it. It said that they don't feel it's right for their current business plans. They've said in the past that they aren't too keen on the fact they can't moderate other networks(the "think of the children" response). It said if they do it, they want to make sure it's fluid and easily implementable...like it is with PC right now. There was subtext to the response, and honestly, it was so well phrased, I'm thinking that the even the question may have been planned between Sony and the reporter in question."

It was more of the same old, we will look into it. Maybe PSN is just a crappy service and why they continue to also say they will look into changing user ID as well but still haven't.

"But it wasn't a BS answer. The end result may still be BS if one wants cross play, but this is the most informative and direct response or comment we've had on the topic since this all became an issue."

It's likely because he had to answer since his own words were thrown back at him (about being 4 the gamers) and didn't have his usual sidekick to answer.

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VenomUK2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

@slate91 It WAS a great question! Instead of just asking with a pithy entitled complaint of a question the reporter Robert Purchese did something different. He referenced Sony's admission (which they had just talked about on stage) that in the past they had been arrogant and not listened to gamers. So the question was deftly highlighting that cross-play is an issue that Sony should be listening about!

It also does sound like Sony are genuinely looking into because Layden's statement indicates they want to balance what gamers want whilst supporting the profitability and promotion of the PS4 platform.

DialgaMarine2162d ago

lol More media outlets trying to write Sony off as the villain. Gaming journalism is a joke.

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Doge2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

There was nothing in the article that made them come off as "the villain". Just the answer they got at the Gamelab conference, and recapping how the issue spawned plus that non-answer PR comment.

StormSnooper2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

“In the context of Fortnite, this would mean Sony doesn't like the idea of a player on Xbox buying a character skin via Xbox Live (and in the process handing Microsoft a 30 per cent cut of the revenue), then logging in to the PS4 version and being able to use that same skin on their persistent, cross-platform character when playing the game on Sony's console.”

I don’t get it, it makes sense to me that Sony doesn’t want this. Why is this a big deal?
It also says Sony already allows crossplay with PC,Mac,android. Does that mean they just don’t allow it with Xbox live?

Neonridr2162d ago

@StormSnooper - or Switch. And if you have used your Epic account ever on your PS4, that account is now banned from using it on Xbox or Switch if you happen to own that hardware as well. Which means you would have to start a new account and lose any progress or unlocks you might have already earned on the previous account.

Kokyu2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

Such is the world right not gaming journos dont actually report they just look for the latest outrage and cover it just like the major non gaming media. To be a gaming journo all you need is a blog a few readers and instant journo credit is yours. Its a joke.

bluefox7552162d ago

They are really going all in with this crossplay nontroversy.

trooper_2162d ago

@Muddy Waters: It's extremely annoying. It makes it look as if Sony is utterly and completely against crossplay when they do crossplay between Steam and Nintendo.

MuddyWaters2162d ago

trooper_
"@Muddy Waters: It's extremely annoying. It makes it look as if Sony is utterly and completely against crossplay when they do crossplay between Steam and Nintendo."

Annoying? Of course it's annoying, that's why Sony is getting some much needed heat on the subject. It's annoying to find out your account has been locked out from being playable on Switch or Xbox One because it was used on PlayStation Network. You should not be annoyed by the bad press because you are a consumer, unless you are also annoyed at Sony limiting access. If you annoyed by people talking about it then you really need to take a long hard look at why that is. Nobody is requesting you to come into threads about it.

Muzikguy2162d ago

@MuddyWaters

Yes it’s a problem but that’s because people keep banging their heads against the wall hoping for change. It makes perfect sense why crossplay on Fortnite isn’t happening. People need to just get over it

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The 10th Rider2162d ago

In what way are they trying to write off Sony as the villain? They're trying to put pressure on Sony to get them to change their policy to something a little more consumer friendly.

Sure, you may not care about crossplay, but there's not a single reason allowing crossplay would hurt gamers and clearly there is people out there that DO care about it. Considering that, how is it a bad thing for a website to ask Sony about it?

DialgaMarine2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

They do have cross play, with PC and Mobile. If you want to game with PS4 users on Fortnite, get it on either PS4 or PC. Those are the only relevant online communities anyways.

“It’s only anti-consumer when Sony does it”

-T9X-69-2162d ago

@DialgaMarine

“It’s only anti-consumer when Sony does it”

Well, they are the only ones doing it. It's not just about crossplay. If you're Fortnite account is linked to your PS4 account, you can't access your account on certain platforms. I've never purchased a single thing on PSN for Fortnite. All my purchases were on PC for the PVE portion of the game. But because I linked it to PS4 to play on there sometimes, when I tried to play it on my Switch. I couldn't. My account was blocked due to being linked on PS4 despite never making a single purchase and only playing a few times on that platform.

The 10th Rider2162d ago

@DialgaMarine,

...And they don't have crossplay with Xbox or Switch, would could easily be implemented if Sony allowed it.

"Those are the only relevant online communities anyways. "

Not really, all it takes is someone to have a single friend with a different platform that they would like to play together with to make it relevant. As I said, there's no single reason having it would hurt gamers . . . you're just making up more and more excuses.

goldwyncq2162d ago

Because in this situation, they kind of are? They exist to serve us, the consumers. Anything that is not in the consumer's best interest has to be addressed, and this entire Fortnite fiasco is one of them. Sony isn't your best friend, so stop defending them like a blind fanboy.

MuddyWaters2162d ago

They can't help it, they have a relation with the plastic toy and feel they need to defend it. If Sony does something how is that a bad thing? What I see is a bunch of fans who don't like Sony getting negative attention. So what? The PS4 will continue to be a great system, I don't get it.

gangsta_red2162d ago

Just remember a lot of these same "gamers" complained about GaaS, microtransactions and the whole DRM launch fiasco.

But I'm really glad that these fanboys are taking this stance and defending their company's decisions. Because their "outrage" card has been officially revoked.

RauLeCreuset2162d ago

The notion that you have the credibility to revoke anything is quite laughable.

dumahim2162d ago

The reporter asked a legit question that a lot of Fortnight on PS4 players want resolved. People want answers, these are the types of questions that should be asked when given a chance.

gamer78042162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

a joke for once asking a hard hitting question to a major game publisher? This is exactly what journalism is good for when done right. Eurogamer once again doing a fine job.

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TheSplooge2162d ago

Just give in already. Will make 3rd party games even better.

Chaosdreams2162d ago

That's not how business works.

G3ng4r2162d ago

Make people happy or fail and find a new business. That's how business works, see you online soon.

trooper_2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

@G3ng4r: That's not how business works. Businesses operate by what's in demand. Crossplay is NOT in demand, except for the few vocals looking to develop a smear campaign against Sony for whatever reason.

Unless this becomes a nationwide issue, Sony has a right to choose who they do crossplay with.

Sorry.

gamer78042162d ago

Usually how it works is big companies stand their ground as long as they can regardless if its not beneficial to the consumer as long as it benefits them, then when they start to crumble under their own selfishness is when they make a change. This is not picking on Sony, Microsoft has been in the same position before on other issues.

Prince_TFK2162d ago

Yeah good things we aren’t businessmen eh? We are gamers.

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ZeroX98762162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

As per John Smedley, that's not how you make money.

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ZeroX98762162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

Why are you talking about PS3, aren't we talking about right now this gen? where is PS3 mentioned in the article?
plus I'm just stating another person's statement, did I wrote it wrong? if I did, sorry about that.
like he said, it's not about how to make gamer happy. if you think it is, you're totally missing the point here.

Plus, FFXI offered crossplay between 360, PS2 and PC. So yes, Sony did it before.

rainslacker2162d ago

PC and PS cross play has been available for over a decade now. Very few games implement the feature. It's not because it's difficult. It actually is quite easy. It's not done much because the publishers don't care that much, and up until recently, it was never that big of a deal that it wasn't in a particular game, or available between certain platforms. The current outrage is nowhere near what it's been the 10 years prior, and the reasons are obvious.

It's a console war thing now. Last gen, it got some console war talk, but nowhere near the extent it does now.

Kokyu2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

"We offer Fortnite cross-play support with PC, Mac, iOS, and Android devices, expanding the opportunity for Fortnite fans on PS4 to play with even more gamers on other platforms."- there you go kiddies stop crying Sony just confirmed they have cross play for Fortnite.

Fortnite has hit a critical mass its all down hill from here anyway.

Doge2162d ago

"We're hearing it. We're looking at a lot of the possibilities. You can imagine that the circumstances around that affect a lot more than just one game. I'm confident we'll get to a solution which will be understood and accepted by our gaming community, while at the same time supporting our business."

Cobra9512162d ago

Which might mean they may yield to some degree in cases such as Fortnite's (not their game, not their account), while not changing anything for Sony properties. All they have to do is stop holding third-party accounts hostage, and the outrage goes away. Only the question of crossplay in general would remain, which is not nearly as big a deal.

Doge2162d ago (Edited 2162d ago )

@Kokyu

At least post the correct update and not the PR non-answer schlock we got last week lmao.

@Cobra951

Honestly? I've said this before and I'm okay if they don't yield for stuff like Minecraft for obvious reasons, or at all. Just take off that stupid account restriction and you're good there.

Personally, I would love to see something like 1440p support for PS4 Pro added before crossplay, but that's probably also gonna be dismissed as a "corporate shill crying because Sony is the king" comment, just like how HDCP was implemented that prevented capture card use without a HDCP stripper lmao.

ShadowWolf7122162d ago

See here's the thing: Why is no one on Epic's case over this? This is not something Sony alone has the power to do, at all. In fact, they don't. It requires CONSCIOUS consent and participation from Epic. Yet no one will even begin to throw any flack their way.

Gee, wonder why?

Neonridr2162d ago

@ShadowWolf712 - Xbox nor Nintendo lock your Epic account to their hardware if you link it. Sony does.

This is why the finger is not being pointed at Epic.

rainslacker2162d ago

I am curious how Sony could in any way lock an Epic account so it can't operate on the Switch or Xbox. Seems the policies would mean that if one had the Switch or Xbox account linked, and someone tried to use their data from those links, that they could lock it from PS use, but not for use on the other systems.

In other words, this is a topic that really should be taken up with Epic.

Kokyu2160d ago (Edited 2160d ago )

@Doge

That came straight from this article sherlock and its correct ass hat. lmao the amount of children coming to cry about this just baffling.

Most of these damn people crying about the non xbone and nintendo cross play have an iOS phone, Android or a PC so use one of those and Play with your Ps4 friends. Pretty damn simple idiots.

Doge2160d ago

First of all, don’t insult me because you were being selective and ignorant as heck.

Second of all, what platform I play Fortnite on is none of your business. I’m against the fact that there’s an account restriction to begin with. It’s stupid and makes no sense.

Third, really? After 2 days my dude? Lol.

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Prince_TFK2162d ago

And here I thought people here said Fornite is the best battle royale game after PUBG was release on the X1.

Oh the spin and the backtrack.

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Neil Druckmann clarifies true intent of new Naughty Dog game comments

Following a recent interview with Sony, Naughty Dog head Neil Druckmann claims the original intent was “unfortunately lost” in the process.

just_looken3d ago

He can take dog shit put it in a oven with seasoning then call it waistland cookies the sony fans will pay $40 a cookie give them a medal of cooking.

No mater what trash this sobs puts out/talks about it will sell.

The true fact in the 8 years sense uncharted 4 his first time in the main seat to a point all this "amazing" team did was get 2 dudes to fuck in a van then destroy a franchise they never created.

But being a port studio they are decent at they should keep in there lane at being just that a glorified port studio.

fr0sty3d ago

Salty Bots... gotta love it.

just_looken3d ago

@frosty

Over what? naught dog under his command is a glorified port team tlou2 was mostly tlou 1 asset's with the same game play loop but forced a trans down your throat.

I would gladly help pay for this blight and his team to get removed from gaming in general.

fr0sty3d ago

Seeing a LGBT person exist in a work of fiction isn't "forcing them down your throat". Nobody is forcing you to play it. Nobody is forcing you to agree with it. If you think that just seeing a LGBT person exist is "force", it sounds like they make you very uncomfortable, and maybe you need to be doing some serious reflecting on exactly why... looks to me like you're suppressing something with all that fear.

just_looken3d ago

@fro

When i think of the last of us i think of a group of survivors crossing the apocalypse wasteland with a growing bond between 2 people that end up with Joel making ellie his new daughter.

Then you fire up the 2nd one bang joel is dead oh that comic series? bang dead

Oh you want to continue all that we grew in the first one? na f that toss it in the trash

Now here is a trans woman so strong superboy would blush go out there kill all what made tlou1 then halfway get a forced sex scene that you can not skip between 2 dudes.

The gameplay? just like the first game the combat/backpack system crafting sytem? 0 changes/improvements.

I could go on but lets face it they copy pasted that tlou 1 assets bin a shit ton of times.

There is nothing on the box or the ads or anything before the game that said you would going to spend most of the game controlling a new trans character that has no ties to anything of the first game the only existence was to kill what the first game made.

Oh but hey there is a mp mode coming out before 2022 wait what is that? oh we made it its own game then cancelled it now go but the game again as we port it a few times.

https://www.youtube.com/wat...

mkis0073d ago (Edited 3d ago )

What has Straley or Henig released since they left ND? Not a thing! stop scapegoating! Which of them is credited with co-writing a majorly successful show?

just_looken3d ago

@mkis007

You bring up Bruce Straley really? someone that gave us 4 generations of amazing games and was there in the creation of 4 legendary franchises but was tossed in the trash for the pos niel druckmann not 7? years ago

So yeah in those 7? years you right all he has done is get 2 awards one is a game award for a puzzle game he made oh boy right like for fuck sake's all niel has done is one game that was a overhyped fan boy orgasm underneath all that ps jizz was just a typical 5/10 game.

Then you drag Amy Hennig that poor woman was also kicked out then became this century's Brendan Fraser with her sexual misconduct information coming out.

We all know how horrible people are treated behind the scenes she might have been sexual attacked groped or something.

So yeah all she did after was battlefield hardline forspoken now that new marvel 1945 game but hey Brendan Fraser was a great actor till he also said he was sexually attacked just now he is allowed back in no doubt she also had to take a leave of absence out and or was forced out on ice.

Man there are way to many out there that look at niel at the new gaming jesus when all he had done is some work on uncharted 4 then tlou2

Oh also the tvhshow? for real all they did was use stuff from the 2013 game its like saying GOT was a 10/10 but never watching past season 3

-Foxtrot2d ago

@mkis007

That's highly unfair to them both

Amy Hennig got messed around working on projects that got cancelled by the publishers (EA) and then ended up on a awful game (Forspoken) where you had 4 other writers working on it which is just a recipe for disaster. She is now working on Marvel 1943: Rise of Hydra. Not her fault she was pushed out of NaughtyDog, something both Nolan North and Richard McGonagle have both said in interviews.

Bruce Straley left after burn out, the rest of the story we don't know and will never know just like what happened with Amy Hennig. He decided to take a break and wasn't sure if he wanted to come back to gaming however he had an idea he wanted to make so he founded Wildflower Interactive, a smaller studio where they are currently working on a new game.

Tacoboto2d ago

@the obvious stain of a commenter

The trans character wasn't Abby. Try playing Part 2 instead of gatekeeping what you think Part 1 was about and meant.

Maybe try watching the show while you're at it, because you're terribly off with your opinion on that too

MajorLazer2d ago

Naughty Dog is better than all the MS studios put together.

derek2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

@just he has been behind 2 of the greatest games ever made. Tlou2 was easily the best non-vr game made last gen. Losers just can't get over Joel's death, mixed with the usual console war nonsense. The fact that you so casually call him a sob shows how deranged some gamers have become about Drunkmann.

derek2d ago

@frosty, for people like Just, including anyone that can be categorized as being a minority in any kind of media is "forcing it down his throat " lol. I to don't care for poor "checking box" inclusion for inclusion sake but that was not the case with tlou2.

fr0sty2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

The pathetic part about it is, you can tell just_looken never even played TLOU, because that was the game where Ellie's sexuality was first brought to light... No "that was forced down our throats" to be said about that.

Only terrified folks in the closet that use their hatred as cover from outing themselves fear LGBT people that much. They exist. They will exist in all aspects of life, including popular media. Get over it.

just_looken2d ago

@all

Once again you drag out something like its a big win

Here is my old channel a clip of me playing TLOU on ps3
https://www.youtube.com/wat...

Search my channel for more clips

Proof its my channel? look at this profiles banner that is 7yrs old then look at other vids on that channel like my bf3 clips to see my psn id. But knowing this group that is way to much work.

Also elle being a lesbian is another trump card? one dlc is all we got of that a dlc that took over a year to be tossed out.

Rainbowcookie2d ago

Hey at least we have cookies to eat 😄

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Rangerman12083d ago

Glad he clarified it but i'm still somewhat skeptical. Plus, his comments about how Ai will revolutionize storytelling were still pretty iffy.

anast3d ago

No need to bow down, Stan your ground. The AI comments were gross though.

S2Killinit3d ago

Pretty excited as I read these. I just cant wait to see what ND is up to.

Export3d ago

put a chick in it and make her gay !

shadowknight2033d ago

Next they need a diverse couple, and perhaps some climate activists

StormSnooper2d ago (Edited 2d ago )

I would love that if only to piss off all the lunatics. Lol

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Naughty Dog Boss Neil Druckmann Says AI Will 'Revolutionize' Development

Druckmann claims the tech could 'push the boundaries of storytelling in games.'

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Jin_Sakai5d ago

I’m more interested in what else he said.

“Neil Druckmann says new Naughty Dog title could ‘redefine mainstream perceptions of gaming’

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H95d ago

It will be something like "we erased gameplay all together it's just a movie now"

purple1015d ago

every time naughty dog make a game, you play it and get the feeling "this is not possible'

from the boulder running towards you in crash, on ps1,
to the massive open world of jak and daxter, on ps2,
to the QuickTime events sequences of uncharted on ps3/4

and now we will see what they do with ps5,

H94d ago

Press X for doubt at "PS5"

-Foxtrot4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Arrogant asshole who sniffs his own farts bigs up next game…sounds like typical PR to me

You know what I find interesting? Almost every site reporting this as the main title where the REAL interesting bit of the interview is Neil praising AI and saying it will be used to help push story, characters, dialogue and more.

It’s super shitty to big up AI especially when it comes to story telling and other creative elements.

senorfartcushion4d ago

Just because someone says this type of stuff, it doesn't mean that it's guaranteed to be good news.

You can say this about microtransactions. MXTs revolutionised the gaming industry.

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Levii_924d ago

Geez how full of themselves are these guys.

Einhander19724d ago

He also said it has "ethical issues we need to address" but of course that doesn't get the clicks.

CrimsonWing694d ago

I’m all for it. Cuts the time to make a game. Look, Hellblade 2 took 5 years to make, if AI can do that in half the time, as a consumer, I support it.

Chard4d ago

Things will get far sloppier brother

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The Witcher 3 REDkit Q&A - CDPR & Yigsoft Confirm Steam Workshop Support; Further Changes Planned

CD Projekt RED and Yigsoft have launched The Witcher 3 REDkit on PC. We interviewed both studios to discuss the release of these mod tools.

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