Is PC VR Falling Behind PlayStation VR?

VR had a subdued year at E3 2018, which left PlayStation VR a clear field.

[porkChop]

No? There are way more games coming out every day for Oculus/Vive/WMR.

[johndoe11211]

And yet the PSVR is outselling both the oculus and vive COMBINED.

[porkChop]

Yeah, because it's the cheapest VR. Those sales don't mean much without games. And of the "proper" VR headsets, the PSVR is by far the worst experience with the worst specs.

[StormSnooper]

PSVR is definitely the bigger arbiter of VR technology for gaming due to its stronger market penetration. But I think PSVR and VR on PC benefit from each other’s existence because they move in concert and the success of one is the success of the other. Meanwhile the PC VR pushes the boundaries with more capable devise options.

So there is no “falling behind”

[porkChop]

@StormSnooper

I agree. They need each other to push VR forward. One device can't do it on its own. It'll be interesting to see how the Oculus Go affects the bigger headsets.

[MuddyWaters]

Well when you are the cheapest unit it certainly helps, along with moneyhatting third party exclusives.

[Vasto]

PSVR is a total fail.

Every time a thread comes up now about PSVR people talk about how they have no interest in it.

[thorstein]

More VR means more VR for everyone.

Stop with the false dichotomy.

So sick of PC gamers saying PSVR HAZ NO GAAAMEZZZZ! ...errrr AAAAAAAA GAAAAMEZZZ!

And sick of PSVR gamers saying OUTSELLING, EXLUZZZIIIIVEESS!!!

Give it a rest. Both are great options and many Oculus/ Vive users also have a PSVR.

The games are where it's at and there are plenty. I love vrfocus, but this year the VR games (at least as far as Sony is concerned) are Legend-wait for it DAAARRRRRYYYY!!

Enjoy the games, stop whining.

[starchild]

And? Gear VR or some other cheap VR headset probably sells even more than PSVR. Quality isn't determined by sales figures.

But why does everything have to be a damn competion around here? VR is still in its infancy on both platforms. We need all of them. Each serves their market well.

[Shadonic]

Its still pretty new and hasn't been out as long as the ps4 which has been out for 3 years with the addition of being way cheaper and not needing a pretty high end PC to even run the thing plus theirs not enough advertisement for it. In terms of games available PC is kicking ass in the VR genre compared to PSVR. its obviously going to be way more profitable in sells because practically everyone and their mother has a PS4 of some version or kind and when it comes to vr its the cheapest option.

[fr0sty]

@porkchop, if any of the 3 VR systems has the games, it's PSVR. It has the best exclusive lineup you'll find, plus almost all of the games that get popular on Rift/Vive. The tech is in some ways better, as well... I find the headset far more comfortable to wear and the immersion effect is better as a result of me not feeling like I have a screen strapped to my face. The higher refresh rates along with frame reprojection making the framerate 120fps at all times (vs. 90 on rift and Vive) is helpful for motion sickness as well. Sure, PS4 isn't rendering those frames out natively at that speed, but the reprojection does help, and it's also noticeable in the handful of games that do render natively at 120.

I agree the PC VR space is necessary, though, as that is the proving grounds where new VR tech (like wireless VR) can prove itself and work out any bugs before hitting the mass market in the console space.

[Promachos]

Shovelware games you mean. Enlighten me and name a few AAA titles.

[porkChop]

There's a bunch of shovelware on PSVR too, so what's your point? There are still way more VR games on PC. And many of them are great. Not to mention that many non-VR games have been modded to support VR. Can't do that on a PSVR, can you?

Edit: And as far as AAA VR games go, they're pretty much all multiplatform. Not that there are that many of them with native VR support. Though Stormland was just announced by Insomniac, exclusive to the Oculus Rift.

[Psychotica]

Fallout 4 VR, Skyrim VR, Alien Isolation..

[SurgicalMenace]

Inpatient, Resident Evil, Far Point, Skyrim, dude there are several. It's easy to dismiss what you're not willing to support. I have over 30 VR games and love my PSVR. I love most things because I'm willing to actually invest into it to get the return out of it that I want.

[thorstein]

RE 7
From Software's Daricine
Doom VR
Skyrim VR
Farpoint
Star Trek Bridge Crew
Wipeout
The Inpatient
Grand Turismo Sport
Driveclub
Obduction
Dirt Rally
Robinson the Journey
Eve: Valkyrie
Rigs

Oops! Those are only PSVR.Hey, Vive and Oculus owners, Help me own this troll.

"Shovelware" "I can't think for myself" " I must bash something I've never tried." Cry.

[Shadonic]

Of course fallout 4 and skyrim with added echo dot support

Sprint vector, From other suns, Echo Arena, Lone Echo, theirs more cant name them off the top of my head. Theirs a bunch of good indie titles as well and just overall vr experience like games. like The Wave VR, VR chat ( i know theirs desktop ) recent beat saber, Gorn ( fun as hell with multiplayer fighting friends ) Does Elite dangerous count as indie or AAA ? I could go on but id rather be playing some of these games now that i mentioned them.
Have you looked into vr games or have you just glanced at lets play vids of youtubers or streamers and took that as the entirety of whats going on.

[Babadook7]

“No? There are way more games coming out every day for Oculus/Vive/WMR.”

Shovelware does not prove anything though. Falling behind in...

1. Sales
2. Quality games

[porkChop]

Moss is multiplatform. I'm looking at it on Steam right now. While it certainly looks great, that's not a killer app like RE7.

Same with Farpoint. It's a good game, and I did enjoy it. The PSVR I used wasn't mine so I didn't get to finish it, but Farpoint didn't feel quite like a killer app either.

"There aren’t any steam exclusives or even multiplats as good as those."

While Farpoint is good, it certainly isn't better than Fallout 4 VR, Skyrim VR, or Doom VFR.

[Babadook7]

Moss was a timed exclusive for PSVR. Another example of better games on PSVR. Skyrim too was a timed exclusive. Fallout and Skyrim are good but not tayler made for VR. Not as good as the big psvr exclusives.

[mkis007]

I would argue oculus and Vive need to start advertising. As of now the only VR that gets tv commercials is PSVR.

[kevnb]

Psvr was barely mentioned by Sony, and it seems like they are clearing them out at retail right now. So vr in general is failing, outside of trying It nobody wants to wear a helmet to game.

[Kurisu]

I've been playing SuperHot VR and Rez Infinite on my PSVR today. I'm looking forward to Blood & Truth, Transference, Tetris Effect, Beat Saber, Space Pirate Trainer and The Walker. I might not be a somebody to you but I'm more than a nobody!

[Shadonic]

I hope you guys get some of the Military / shooter games we got like onward or pavlov some day. would love if crossplay was introduced like it is on Rec Room

[porkChop]

There are a lot of great VR titles, but there aren't many killer apps that would make people go out and buy a headset. Stormland *could* be that game, but we won't know for sure until it comes out.

[Kurisu]

Stormland looks good. Just seen the trailer. If I had a Rift I'd definitely check it out! But I don't. So I won't xD

[Profchaos]

They had a day on the showroom floor dedicated to vr which I understood because vr games typically look bad when presented they need to be experienced

[Knushwood Butt]

I literally just took my 'helmet' off after a few laps of Willow Springs.

The way the light from the sun affects the interior of the car, on top of the whole 'omg it actually feels like I'm sat in a real car', is simply awesome.

If I must step back and be objective, then the Tokyo city circuit is clearly too much for the tech to do it justice, but that's a minor complaint.

GT Sport
PS VR

[Ulf]

VR is unstoppable. It's cheap enough to be in the hands of consumers, and made by small companies. Heck, you can make a VR headset out of cardboard, rubber bands, and plastic lenses.

Even if it's not popular enough, or cheap enough, to be called a huge success, it will inevitably succeed.

Some folks just cannot understand the truth of the forward march. Past a certain point, it's in the hands of hobbyists, and then it cannot fail to eventually find a place.

Console VR is maybe too early, sure. But failing? Think again.

[GrimDragon]

Not as long as VR porn and sex games exist.

[xRacer74x]

Nope not even close. I bought an Oculus Rift Tuesday night and PSVR from best buy they both were on some good sales. I liked the Oculus so much that i did not even bother to open the PSVR I took it back the next day. Oculus has so many more games the games look better. Also the Rift was 499 with a 50 GC and PSVR was 250 Skyrim bundle. If you have the computer to run the games its a no brainer go with PC VR.

[1Victor]

Tuesday I purchased a PS4 pro a psvr a oculus ready pc and oculus and tomorrow I’m returning the pc and oculus after playing moss. Said a PlayStation fanboy

Xracer74X want to meet him you two can get along perfectly you have lying in common

[xRacer74x]

Here is a link to a screen grab proving what I said was true.
https://ibb.co/cL7fxy
By the way the message was on that page was special just for you Kiddo.

[porkChop]

Holy shit lol, gonna need some ice for that one.

[Shadonic]

Damn Victor did he kill you with his purchase history ?

[generic-user-name]

PSVR has the best exclusive, RE7, also has the screen door effect is less on PSVR than the PCVR headsets. There's no doubt that PCVR games can run more demanding games, if you have the rig to run them, and some very good exclusives of their own. Both have their pros and cons, PSVR will have the bigger audience though.

[Kurisu]

Yeah, I don't have a PC so for me PSVR is the only option available to me. Before I got my PSVR I had never experienced any kind of VR before. I love it. PC headsets might have the extra quality but I'm happy with my PSVR as my first foray in to the experience, and I look forward to it improving in the future.

[Shadonic]

i wonder if theirs someone working on a hardcore resident evil remake for PC VR, it would be awesome with full movement. I also want a splinter cell like vr title, their was one guy working on one but he didnt advertise it enough and i guess he canceled the project.

[Gameseeker_Frampt]

Cool story bro.

"I hope so GOW seems like more of a movie than a game so far to me. Kind of let down with that game. Cyberpunk I hope is Witcher with a diff setting."
"Yea I should never have bought that PS4 Pro its a waste of an HDMI port."
"Sony blinders strong, they could take a dump on stage and sony fans would say they won."
"No way, Sony usually has a couple shows depending on what microsoft announces."
"Fool me once PSP, Fool me twice Vita. I have learned my lesson."

It is amazing that someone whose comments almost always are negative against Sony actually went out and bought a PSVR. Props though for the screenshot. That is some dedicated troll work to go out and buy a PSVR days AFTER you were trashing Sony, their conference, and their games just so you could return it and post a screenshot to back up your trolling. Kudos.

[porkChop]

"That is some dedicated troll work to go out and buy a PSVR days AFTER you were trashing Sony, their conference, and their games just so you could return it and post a screenshot to back up your trolling."

Are you delusional? You actually think someone would go through that trouble just to post a screenshot? This is the real world, buddy, not some conspiracy garbage like Alex Jones.

[xRacer74x]

I might not be Pro Sony anymore but I dont need to lie and I really hate when someone talks shyt and cant back it up. I wish I liked Sony more it just seems like they cater to a diff type of gamer. Sony was awesome back in the PSX and early ps2 days I could not imagine gaming those days without them. Like I said I loved Second Son and HZD and the ratchet remake was pretty cool too.

[Gameseeker_Frampt]

@porkChop

Oh porkChop, not surprised to see you here bashing Sony yet again and rushing to the defense to those that do the same thing. Why exactly would someone want to buy a PSVR the day after they said Sony's conference was horrible and their exclusives were bad and the only game they wanted was Spiderman?

[Shadonic]

yo check out the free weekend titles in the oculous home and get Echo arena its like zero G basketball

[1Victor]

Sorry to have called you a liar you sure proved me wrong unlike the many people here claiming to have purchased X or Y system/game and never used it

[Profchaos]

I love my psvr it's not perfect but I find it to be a worthy competitor to the vive in some regards I've spent time with Arizona Sunshine in both the vive and psvr the game obviously looks better on the vive but it's not night to day. Especially with the aim controller on the psvr it plays so much better

[bolimekurac]

psvr is dead

[ibrake4naps]

With how poor expensive console peripherals have sold in the past, I'm pleasantly surprised. I bought mine day 1 and still play it all the time! I think VR will now always be an option for gamers, and I love to be in the game!

[PUBG]

I think VR is falling off the map. I don't even recall seeing anything about VR at Sony's conference, which says alot, and follows the pattern of what happened with the Vita.

[Shadonic]

did they have a booth or something ? seeing as its Vr i could see them thinking its better for them to expereince it over looking at something experience it which would just be someone watching someone move their arms in the air as they watch a screen where first person view is frantically moving and is never stable or smooth like all of the pre made non vr game titles showed.

[audiocafe]

I don't think it is. There are great experiences to be had regardless of which one you own. For me, I had the choice of picking up either a PSVR or an Oculus and I chose the Oculus because I feel Playstation doesn't have the best track record when it comes to keeping up support for their accessories and peripherals.

[darx]

No both are falling behind 3D

[jznrpg]

Round 2 VR is still i it’s infancy , PC and PSVR need each other . Next gen PSVR may be the real jump though in numbers, only time will tell

[Hardiman]

Well sure it's a much more affordable price and while not as visually impressive as Oculus or Vive it does the job quite well! It's pretty amazing what Sony has done!

[Scatpants]

Uhh no.

[SouljAx360]

VR is too small for a console war. It's amazing to me even in it's current form, but they aren't going to catch on like this. They're all too big, low resolution(except for WMR using lower FOV mode), hot as fuck in the summer(lol seriously), and unless you buy a 300 dollar device they are wired to a PC/PS4. Most of them have tracking issues or require some crazy setup putting shit all over where you want to play at. And most of the games feel more like tech demos, or some archery shit which I'm personally not a fan of.

With that said between Skyrim and Fallout VR I've played over 500 hours in VR so far and loved it. Wish more games would get ported to VR. Doesn't need to all be "made for VR" experiences.

[Shadonic]

wireing is mostly fixed with a 20 $ easy to use ceiling set up. but yea wireless should of been a thing and at the most 100 - bucks 300 is half a vive at this point

[WitcheRivia]

PSVR was a fad just like the Playstation Move. I can't believe that there were people that got suckered into another one of their schemes.

[ApocalypseShadow]

Yeah. Having over 150 games with another couple dozen arriving this year that play better than Wiimote, kinect and move is a massive fail./s

All these companies adding vr in and out of the gaming sector and upgrading the hardware for better immersion in the future and on the go means vr is failing.

Sure buddy.

[Einhander1971]

I have plenty on my PSVR and plenty more on the way. The ones quick to dismiss it don’t own one or haven’t even tried VR if they did they would realise how amazing it is. Go play wipeout omega VR or Rez in VR, Resi 7, Moss, Farpoint, Thumper, Theseus, the list goes on...

[AK91]

Possibly.

[agent4532]

I fell for another clickbait article. PC VR has more games, better technology, and the ability to improve/evolve at a faster rate than PlayStation VR (Yes, once PS5 releases, PSVR will improve but then it will remain stagnant; in contrast, PC VR will always be evolving)

[Knushwood Butt]

I think there's room for both.

[Ulf]

Who wrote this, and what are they smoking?

[Cajun Chicken]

Nah. Love my Vive and the extra choice for it, sift through the shovelware and you can find amazing new VR games EACH DAY on Steam.

I will get a PSVR one day just for Wipeout VR.

[Shadonic]

if they advertise some of the killer games and shit with pre made cheap pc's they could make so much more.