DICE GM Responds to Battlefield V Female Soldier Controversy

DICE GM responds to the Battlefield V controversy surrounding the inclusion of female soldiers in the game.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

The female soldier is just in the trailer for pandering. Russia was the country with a prominent presence of front line female infantry not the UK. Dice tired to market BF1 as following the story of an African American soldier in WW1, they even put him on the game’s cover, yet his role in the game is very minor. DICE. I personally take issue with the amount of pandering for the sake of diversity going on in media.

I expect BF V to be just as historically inaccurate and cartoonishly boombastic in singleplayer as BF1. I personally at times found the number of nonwhite soldiers in BF1 MP to be plan strange and i’m black myself. I will find it even stranger if there are player character with Katinas, Cletic War paint, metal arms, obesity, etc in BFV mp.

[Chaosdreams]

I think the point is, they aren't stating that woman were the prominent force on the battlefield, but rather they served in a capacity that however minor is still worth depicting. Minor does not equate to non existent. So the developers have their creative freedom/license to depict stories/gameplay in a setting of their choosing. There's a line of course between respectful and disrespectful, and I think if they felt they were crossing the line they'd depict this in an alternate setting and push the creative boundaries even further (such as Wolfenstein with it's 'what if' scenario).

If DICE showcases some of the stories through the perspective of a female soldier/combatant, then this is certainly not pandering (if however they do nothing beyond having female avatars) I'll shake my head at the missed opportunity.

I do understand where you're coming from in the sense that it's dangerous territory to alter history - if what they are showing happens to be highly inaccurate. It's up to them to find the balance between allowing themselves to showcase potential scenarios soldiers faced (woman and men) and ensuring they don't throw in cyborgs (the claw hand is probably the only thing I raised an eyebrow at).

Part of me thinks it would've been cool if they fused WW2 with Steampunk, but if DICE is sticking to their guns on this - I have a feeling they've got some strong narrative choices in mind.

[Finch]

I agree with the claw hand part. The girl I can some what look pass. But if they allow to many cosmetic that has nothing to do with wwii. This will take me out of the atmosphere of the game. The girl if Russian sure don't. But regardless even if she is American won't kill it for me as much as wtf cosmetic like cyborg hands and the like. Just that one thing is so out of place. What else they got? But long story short. The cosmetic thing alone has me far more worried.

[Omnislashver36]

Bingo, it's historical fantasy, they can do whatever they want. Same genre as The Man in the High Castle and Wolfenstein.

Although with all of the down votes I feel like if the series were called "The Woman in the High Castle" some of these guys would burst out crying.

What matters is if the game is good. Has nothing to do with whether chicks are involved.

[steven83r]

At what point did DICE say this is a historically accurate game? They said it's their alternate take on the war/era. So by your standards and everyone complaining was Resistance a piece of crap game? That had a WW2 1940s 50s like setting with aliens. And it was awesome. If you want a historically accurate WW2 watch a documentary. But this idea that war games need to be exactly as they happened is stupid. And gets boring as each company retells the exact same story. Where's the hate for Wonder Woman? I don't remember reading about her in my history class.

[Skull521]

No one would care if they bought their game and when making a character you could choose a woman.

The reason people care is because DICE chose, instead of showing a great game, to make the statement "Look girls this game is for you too!" and normal people are tired of the pandering.

[Skull521]

These guys are doubling down, and looks like they're gonna troll with the chick now as the box art for the game. You developers should take a good hard look at the movie Solo, because Battlefield 5 is going to be next. Declare war on your fans and embrace the financial flop.

[Sayai jin]

Wondering who's complaining... It's a game, if you want true realism, the enlist and go out on deployment. I am a retired combat veteran and history buff and I don't care if women are in the game. Guess what, you don't take multiple gun shots or heal up instantly in battle. I know personally.

[thorstein]

So the French, Chinese, Indonesians, Germans, and Japanese didn't have women on the front lines?
Okay.

[sampsonon]

"DICE. I personally take issue with the amount of pandering for the sake of diversity going on in media."

same here, to many white men are being accommodated... spoiled ones like you.

[Sciurus_vulgaris]

I'm not white lol.

[Avernus]

OP said he's black. I'm not white either, and I agree with the forced diversity. I acknowledge women played their part in war, and I'll speak only for Russia because I'm familiar with their history.

But HIGHLIGHTING women, by placing a woman on the cover, to me personally, is disrespectful to the men who's deaths outnumber the women.

But hey, we live in a time where if you speak up against this kind of stuff you're a racist / sexist / white guy.

[sampsonon]

@Sciurus_vulgaris: it doesn't matter because it's an attitude that has brainwashed many into thinking that if it's not a white guy it's being forced.

every f-in game and movie must only have white men on the cover ?lol.
women fought in the first and second world wars and never get any credit ever for sacrificing themselves. most of you guys didn't even know women fought in these wars until a game like this put one on it's cover.... so i guess they are educating the ignorant. painful :)

[Avernus]

@sampsonon: "every f-in game and movie must only have white men on the cover ?lol"

^ See, statements like this is why some of you come across like you have no idea what you're talking about, and just too busy white knighting to stop and see the point others are making.

Nobody made a peep about Tomb Raider being a woman. Nobody made a peep about Aloy being a woman. There's many other games that have a lead female that isn't "controversial" and that hardly anyone cared if it was a woman.

But again, your point is "if you don't agree with me, you're sexist and ignorant"... which tbh, is quite ironic here.

[RedSalmon]

@Avernus

"But HIGHLIGHTING women, by placing a woman on the cover, to me personally, is disrespectful to the men who's deaths outnumber the women."

OH FUCK RIGHT OFF. This isn't a memorial. It's a god damn video game. Fuck off your pious bullshit argument.

I'll remember that "disrespect' when you and other are tea bagging guys they killed and screaming cunt in comms.

[Avernus]

@RedSalmon

"OH FUCK RIGHT OFF. This isn't a memorial. It's a god damn video game. Fuck off your pious bullshit argument.

I'll remember that "disrespect' when you and other are tea bagging guys they killed and screaming cunt in comms."

^ See folks, when they can't put their feeling into proper words, whiteknights resort to the ol "FUCK YOU! FUCK YOUR OPINION!!!!"

Thing is sir, ma'am, it, attack chopper, whatever have you... I was talking about the devs, and their responsibility to the story they're telling. And they are telling a story. They've said it multiple times. But as I've said before, some people are just too busy shouting to hear the actual point.

I don't know where I referenced what players do on the battlefield, but ok.

You do you boo boo.

[sampsonon]

@Avernus: people always complain and they did say they didn't want to play Horizon because "women are being shoved down our throats because of liberals and feminist .

- http://www.mandatory.com/cu...

https://www.reddit.com/r/Ko...

https://d2ec906f9aea-003845...

EA Fifa woman soccer team in game https://www.gameskinny.com/...

i could go on with pages of this #hit so please stop acting as if it's not true.

[Avernus]

@sampsonon

Big differences though.

- FIFA has women playing IRL, but do you see a woman plastered on their cover? No. Maybe you might see a woman sharing the cover. I think that's how it was a year, I can't remember. But the year a woman stars on a cover, you'll see a "controversial" moment, and rightfully so. The men's game is the real money maker for EA, and FIFA IRL. What a joke it'll be to plaster a woman on the cover to satiate the SJW agenda.

- HZD was always meant to be a woman, and it didn't feel forced to me. I played it, loved the game. Same with Tomb Raider. Imagine how easy it would have been to make Lara a man? But it felt ok tbh. Not really forced. Not like this BF cover, which screams "LOOK AT ME! I'M A GRIL!"

But hey, finding articles about 2 games is a huge deal. Good for you man. Well done. But let's ignore all the forced agendas in games. "it's just a game!!!"... sure, soon it'll be "it's just a movie!"... then "it's just a job! Get over yourself" lol... to be honest, you're already seeing it in the gaming industry. All the stuff EA showed about "women in video games" shows how they prioritize hiring women, over men. That whole Mass Effect lead artist debacle. IIRC was a women with 0 AAA experience, but was hired anyway.

But people like ME are the ones pushing an agenda? Wake up man...

[pinkcrocodile75]

@Avernus

"But HIGHLIGHTING women, by placing a woman on the cover, to me personally, is disrespectful to the men who's deaths outnumber the women. "

Unless you lived through World War II you can f@ck r!ght 0ff. YES men were on the front line, of course BUT tell that sh!t to the innocent people slaughtered during the blitz or did women live in a bubble safe from harm from 1939 to 45?

I don't care if you're male, female, black, brown, white or green, whether you shag men, women or sheep. The fact is you're talking sh!t when EVERYBODY who lived through the horrors of WWII paid a price one way or another.

[sampsonon]

@Avernus: - "FIFA has women playing IRL, but do you see a woman plastered on their cover? No. Maybe you might see a woman sharing the cover."

i don't see why a woman can't be on the cover alone when it comes to the US https://www.nytimes.com/201...

call it a good business decision lol

spoiled "it's mine!" lol

"sorry honey, women aren't allowed to be on the cover because they're women" https://www.dreamstime.com/...

[Sayai jin]

Avernus, if they made a game about OEF, war in Afghan, etc I wouldn't care if they put women on the cover and trust me the vast majority of this KIA were and will be men. I know, becuase I lost friends on patrol, missions and the sort. I took shrapnel from an IED to the upper portion of my body, had heart, facial, and a few other surgeries to survive.

From a combat veteran, it's not disrespectful to put women on the cover. Most vets I know don't think about trivial things as a cover of a game. Why do you keep mentioning white, sexist, male?

[bumbleforce]

I agree. There were female soldiers in ww2. But it was so small compared to male soldiers. This is pandering and thats my issue with it. I dont care if there are females or people of color in the game. But I dont think a female ahould be on the cover based on the war. . . . then again its a videogame so fun trumps all. They are doing this to sell more copies

[Sayai jin]

@Bumble, people of color in it? Um, there were people of color in WW2 on the front lines, liberating concentration camps, flying sorties, etc. Smh....

[slavish0]

its a video game. Get over it!

[RedSalmon]

You can't include even a single female character without it being pandering?

So, it's the choice between:

1. A single women or more = pandering.
2. Zero women = not pandering.

When are women allowed to exist in MADE UP games without it being pandering then?

[Sono421]

In what way is the game "MADE UP" DICE themselves say it is WW2. World War 2 was not "MADE UP" It happened, what didn't happen was women with prosthetic arms on the front lines, it simply didn't, that is the part that is "MADE UP". If you are going to call something World War 2, then you portray World War 2, if you are going to create alternate history, then you call it alternate history. What is so hard for you to understand about this? You know what, just put robots on the front lines, whats it matter? You can't prove all those people back then were human, maybe robots came from the future that look exactly like people and influenced the war. I mean why not right?!

[Sono421]

Woah be careful with what you say on N4G bud, this could be considered hate speech against women and DICE, don't want to offend anyone like Parasyte, just say "Oh yes finally women and disabled people are finally being recognized by battlefield for their huge help during WW2! How forward thinking and progressive DICE is WOW they are GREAT! Please take my money, HEROES of the modern world!" /s

[Soc5]

They're just trying to get girls to play games more. Pretty simple.
It's not SJW it's not that they actually care. It's just BUSINESS. as usual.

[Mutant-Spud]

The Soviets used female "soldiers" in their propaganda for political purposes, to promote socialist equality, very few served in combat, some were military police, anti-aircraft gunners, drivers etc, in short they played a similar role to women in other combatant countries ie they worked in factories, on farms, in administrative and support roles.

[-Foxtrot]

It’s not just the woman...but whatever focus on that I guess 🙄

[moomoo319]

Hey lets not address any criticisms about our game, and instead hijack the narrative and claim every detractor is a sexist
-DICE

[-Foxtrot]

Exactly

It’s a great deflect for any criticism

[Gwiz]

Yeah,They did the same with Mass Effect Andromeda.. apparently they didn't learn from that piece of garbage.

[pinkcrocodile75]

If I were in their shoes, I'd finish the game and release it with the tag line.

Battlefield V
Buy it or don't buy it, just stop moaning

Honestly criticism is great to read and easy to dish out. However when you receive it you can either pander to it or, ignore it and release your game just how you envisaged it.

The game will either do well or not depending on how it is received, however to change your vision because of what some spotty pleb says about it on internet forums or f@ck'n twitter is a road to what could only be described as;

"Game development by committee"

Bugger that with a 10" carrot!

[AHall88]

Not really surprising they're controlling the narrative, but whatever.
I'll just be avoiding BF5, just like I avoided BF1, and Hardline, pretty soon just that alone will be enough to be labeled a sexist/bigot.

[FunAndGun]

Good, that's what you do when given an option. This game is not for you, simples. Seems you are more concerned about how people label you than focusing on finding a game that fits your comfort level of content that doesn't upset you. Good luck to you!

[FunAndGun]

No woman, no cry.

But there is a woman, so many can't cope.

[-Foxtrot]

Sure Jan...

[Hungryalpaca]

I think you should examine your observational skills.

[bolimekurac]

battlefield 6 confirmed with caitlyn jenner on the cover, they want to get really diverse

[Sam Fisher]

Having a transexual character can bring some crazy disguises for stealth portions.

[Sayai jin]

@Bolimekurac, people like you crack me up. I served for 21 years and I know a few Jenner types that would crack you in half. A few I know are in spec forces.

[bolimekurac]

no one cares.

[Sayai jin]

That's what people with no argument and cowardly would say.

[TheSplooge]

Boohoo women in a videogame. Grow up, kids.

[bolimekurac]

women in games is not the issue, woman in anything is not the issue, the issue is the sjw bullcrap they are pushing down our throats. this inclusion bs is getting out of hand and its an agenda that is being pushed in games and movies and tv and media everyday more then ever and its wrong . They are force feeding the feminist crap and this inclusive crap down peoples throats

[Omnislashver36]

Wtf you said women are not the issue then complained about them.

[Brave_Losers_Unite]

@omnislash
Yeah lol wth was that

[TheSplooge]

They're not force feeding anything down our throats. Last i checked, they're not holding a gun to your head to force you to buy the game. As many have stated; it was never intended to be historically accurate. I dont see why youre all getting so offended over a videogame. Let the salt flow i guess.

[FunAndGun]

How can something optional be pushed down your throat? Do you NOT have the option to turn your head away and look at something else? It's not their fault you're so sensitive.

Also, this phrase "forced down my throat" - dramatic, just like a sjw. Another side to the same coin.

"women in games is not the issue, woman in anything is not the issue"

...a very short time later...

"They are force feeding the feminist crap and this inclusive crap down peoples throats"

[PCgamer98]

The first time I saw the trailer I didn't even know it was ww2. It was so cartoonish and the soldiers looks out of place of the ww2 era.

[Teflon02]

Because WW2 always has to look one way. Every shooter series in the past 20 years has atleast 1 WW2 game and as you could see with CoD. People didn't enjoy going back to the same thing. You need to switch it up, BF5 is doing that. Also those ppl clying about sjw BS. It's not them trying to force shit down your throat. It's called customization and entertainment

[Hungryalpaca]

Literally nothing you said is a valid argument in any way or correct.

People have been asking for an authentic BF WWII for a long time.

You’re aware customization doesn’t automatically mean prosthetics, katanas and clown paint? Nor does it make a game fun. Plenty of games are now coming out using authenticity for their WWII setting and after hat BFV trailer their sales have gone way up.

<======== The point

🤨 your head

[Teflon02]

Hungryalpaca
The irony. Literally what you said made no sense... NONE at all
"customization doesn’t automatically mean prosthetics, katanas and clown paint"
What!? But is it a form of customization? What does Katana's have to do with SJW agendas? That's exactly what customized gameplay would be. These exact choices. Choosing your running type could be one, your emote is one. Anything can be customization so you actually proved my point right after saying my point isn't valid...

"Nor does it make a game fun"
No but it adds a form of entertainment and identity. Also it gives DICE a way out of forcing season passes on people and segregating the community. They've been trying to find a way since BF4 which is why they gave away all the map packs after a while.

"Plenty of games are now coming out using authenticity for their WWII setting and after hat BFV trailer their sales have gone way up"
Talk about reaching lmao. I don't even need to explain the stupidity behind this.

"<======== The point

🤨 your head"

The Irony lmao.

"Literally nothing you said is a valid argument in any way or correct. "
Hmm, I remember this line "as you could see with CoD. People didn't enjoy going back to the same thing". Why don't you look up WW2 stats vs BO3? You ever wonder why BO3 is the CoD game this gen despite having what people hated in others? I can explain but it'll go over your head.

[GamingInFrames]

Just as long as Battlefield 5 doesn't go full Last Jedi, I'll be ok with it. Need to see more.

[TheColbertinator]

Shrugs. If you dont like it,dont play it. Hundreds of other war games where you only play as men.

[Hungryalpaca]

Thought the point was to seek this to as many people as possible not send them to other games

[TheColbertinator]

BFV is rated M for heavy violence,requires online connection and subscriptions on PSN/Live and is catered to fans of FPS and action games heavily. It has limitations of market share as it is but thankfully is a brand name with huge followings in sales and active communities.

Not to mention a big EA marketing push. It will do fine regardless of what a bunch of whiners do.

[BadElf]

Women in video games is NOT the issue. Women in movies, TV shows, commercials..is NOT the issue. Tired of people just automatically thinking its that.

Remember Sigourney Weaver in Alien? Great, badass character.
Uma Thurman in Kill Bill?
Elaine in Seinfeld?

Before SJWs being allll offended about everything, just trying to push their agenda....there ALREADY were great female leads/characters. It was just good entertainment, without the obvious PC, SJW bullsh*t tied with it.

It's HOW DICE and everyone else in Entertainment goes about it. Stop PUSHING the "strong, badass, independent" woman garbage. Now if a movie has a woman in it that just wants help from a man, people would cry sexism and DEMAND change. If a commercial/movie/tv show etc. doesnt have a "Smart, funny, strong, sassy" woman, belittling/making fun of the "stupid, weak" man, these SJWs would DEMAND things to change.

Just stop. It's awful. Alll Entertainment has it.

[Gwiz]

Exactly,when I had the choice between an Alyx Vance or Gordon Freeman box cover I chose Alyx. (yes back when PC physical media still meant something)

[ginganinja]

Except if Alien came out now, you'd be complaining it was diversity for the sake of it, or some such bs.

[Gwiz]

lol If they released Alien now believe me it would not be a great actress.Did you understand what he said?.
Remakes of the classics have shown that acting has pretty much died.(regardless of gender)

[Hungryalpaca]

When you have to make stuff to to try and prove a point. Nice one.

[ginganinja]

@Gwiz. Do you understand what I said?
I'm talking about if the original Alien had come out now rather than 1979. Instead of taking it for what it is, anti-SJW would be whinging because of the ' "strong, badass, independent" woman garbage.'

[Averyashimself]

Someone with multiple accounts is spamming this article with disagrees.

[Teflon02]

Woman aren't the issue. It's portraying woman as strong! derp derp...

stop the nonsense. I don't get why people think this is a issue. It's a game, a million WW2 games exist. No reason not to switch it up if it's about the smaller pieces in the war. Woman existed and some were involved in WW2 so the inclusion is perfectly warranted.

[Smokehouse]

The word “Controversy” has pretty much lost it’s meaning with this idiotic stuff. You people change controversy like underwear. You didn’t have any real questions to ask the guy?

[Rachel_Alucard]

The real questions are
Can I play as a female Nazi?
Will there be a Pacific expansion with japanese troops?
Will Swastikas be censored?

If yes to the last one I'll be skipping this and just getting Red dead. It's very likely they'll pull this stunt tho.

[Majin-vegeta]

1.Wehrmacht most likely
2.According to leaked info.Japan will be one of the factions
3.50/50

[Rachel_Alucard]

I kinda have a heavy feeling they might do it for multiplayer, since they already ban all Nazi imagery from emblems. Having a bunch of people interact with each other with Nazi symbolism being prominent is something everyone is scared of. I just hope single player doesn't suffer for this.

[aaronaton]

You know what, this customization could be a good thing:
BF1 forced you to select minority characters via their class system (black people, Indians, women etc)
Technically this customization system could see a far less diverse set of characters on the battlefield, which would be great.

[CrimsonGuardVII]

if right wingers hate sjw crap so much, even though some of it just opinions that it is sjw, instead of straight up marketing, why don't they make there own games with there very own agenda if its good ill buy it, if its not ill pass, instead they complain and complain and end up binge a different kind of sjw instead of unique, i always hear sensationalist crap, oh its because it erode our values, im sorry if your values are so easily eroded, then they were never that strong to begin with. at the start of this, there was just sjws, now its red sjws who are right wingers and blue sjws who are left wingers, from my point of view your both nuts and never had moral superiority on anyone political system anywhere in all of history. and you you both never had any real morals to begin with, they always change depends on who you idolize at the time frame. there is no real conservatives or liberals anymore, just hippies and far right, they both are crybabies who will cry to the end of time. hell there even to cowardly or lazy to have a civil war that they secretly wish they could have, instead they have media wars do it for them. down vote me all you want, you will never find me wanting either conservative fake values or liberal fake values, simply put your outdated and relics of ancient history. ok ok maybe not ancient, but pretty far back. either way y'all have served your purpose, now its time to evolve. go ahead down vote me, its not like you have anything of real value to say anyway. you will never make me sheep of yalls bs.

[Hungryalpaca]

Um. I’m left wing. That was a wall of nonsense.

[CrimsonGuardVII]

of course its non sense to a right and left winger, you need ppl to depend on to further your ideologies, and when realist ppl come by telling you both of your ideologies are outdated and does not reflect honestly where you are on the political spectrum anymore , because most ppl who follow these 2 lines of thought are not honest ppl to begin with,(most of there talking points and disagreements and how they think about each other and what the other claims the other believes ect ect,come from right,left wing media tells them) then your mind its confused because some one has a thought outside your little box. and it so horrible that some one refuse your religion i mean ideologies. so yea now tell me how its nonsense with actual fucking points, not because your to lazy and just rehash bullshit. don't be grammar Nazi and deflect either.

[drpepperdude]

I think you are a liberal in denial, I would understand if you truly didn't like both but the fact you are fine with liberals adding their ideologies to games counter acts your argument. The only period in my life when I drank the liberal Kool-Aid was when I was a liberal, I can't imagine understanding the problems with it and still willingly drinking it.

[CrimsonGuardVII]

then you have serious comprehending issues, i am neither right wing or left wing,as i find they are no longer helpful in any social issues in today's world, even there ideologies have run there coarse as most ppl don't even know what they are other then key words they hear over and over,but not there ideologies true function and purpose, my ideology goes beyond this nonsense, i am realist, i don't need cnn or fox or any left right media to tell me how to think, and what you says make no sense you left out context, context is conservatives were doing it for decades, so now liberals get a turn, and somehow you think i should care, again you can IGNORE LIBERAL SJWS, BUT Conservative ones you cant because of there censorship obsessions, if it was just CREATIVITY ISSUES the cons had then i would just ignore them as well, but they go that extra mile wheres as libs i can just ignore with no consequence, because there not the ones trying to take things away aka censorship. but if that changes so does my opinion. but calling me a liberal ROTFLMAO, ppl who understand me better have a different name they call me,Imperialist, a name you better get used to, because if they keep going at it, they will wipe each other out, and ppl like me is what will come next, so i hope for all of your sakes they stay getting along. and not go at again like the 1860s. because the next time ppl will be fed up with both of them and be done with them for good.

[blacktiger]

Who cares about the female thing but this robotics hand just way too much

[CrimsonGuardVII]

its silly i agree, but its not robotic, those were actual prosthetic used in that time frame, now them charging into battle like that shit easy to use, na don't think so, and if it did maybe a hand full through the whole war, but even then i doubt it.

[Majin-vegeta]

Its a protestic arm and you might wanna look up Douglas Bader.

[Majin-vegeta]

I feel like people missed a big part where Dice mentioned what they were gonna do with WW2.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Ba...

Also sounds like well be able to override skins if you want
https://i.redd.it/wrctqd79a...

Gameplay>Political agenda BS

[glenn1979]

People need to stop bitchin, fucking bunch of pussies, bitch about fucking lootboxes and fucking microtransactions i'm a fucking mad keyboard warrior😠😠€ 544;😠😠

[Hungryalpaca]

You tell them to bitch about micro transactions? Isn’t that what complaining about the cosmetic items is?

[glenn1979]

People people I was just kidding Im a passive keyboard warrior😅😅€ 517;

[DrIDGAF]

DICE is just stirring up crap to distract from the fact that they're late to the party on this. Most games let you play as women years before Battlefield.

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

Are you guys seriously looking for historical accuracy in a battlefield game? My god go outside and get a life. It’s a GAME! Fun over everything else.

[GEORGIAN_GRENADE]

Well Battlefield games have never been THAT accurate in the past. But I can assure you a major part of their appeal to me were the realistic vehicles, weaponry, camos, settings and characters they had in the prior installments. Call me delusional if you want but BF 2, 3, & 4 all had me immeresed to a certain degree making me feel like I was really in a warzone. That's what made those games so appealing to me and that's partly the reason I skipped BF1, the setting just didn't match the gameplay or the characters. That's why I might skip this battlefield also, inclusion of women and all those non realistic costumizations ARE a factor for me when talking about these games. They just take me out of immersion.

And before you go and call me an anti feminist know that I play Rainbow Six Siege which has more female characters than male and is my #1 played game. I have zero issues with female characters in Siege where everything is set in an alternate era that's suppose to be a modern tactical shooter.

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

Realism has NOTHING to do with historical accuracy. There are literally hundreds of games that are realistic but not based on true events. I couldn’t careless if BF 5 has female soldiers or Blacks in parts of the world that historically is not factual. I care about fun and everything u described is what makes BF fun.

[DialgaMarine]

I don’t care about female soldiers; I care about how ridiculous and dumb you’re making WW2 look.

[Teflon02]

People cried about money grubbing from comapnies that need money to produce games. BF5 is free after the initial payment for the game and no one is even talking about that. Instead, crying about a damn girl with a prosthetic arm...

[RedSalmon]

If including a single female soldier in BFV is pandering, then what do you call having a white dude being the main character in almost every game up until recent times?

Now that's pandering.

[PUBG]

They shouldn't make a WW1 or WW2 game that misrepresents those conflicts. Make a modern day or futuristic shooter, where women do in fact play a larger role, if that is what the studio is concerned about.

Whether it's Hollywood, the video games industry, or the main stream fake news media, we are getting this stuff shoved in our faces on a constant basis, and I'm getting tired of it. BFV is off the list 100%.

Perhaps the problem with this game, is that it is being made in Sweden, which has nothing in common with the countries that actually fought in that war and saved their asses, like the U.K., Canada, and the U.S.A..

[FunAndGun]

Thanks for your imput! They will make whatever damn game they please, and you are free to ignore that game.

That's how this works. Maybe go seek therapy if you just can't deal anymore with the world around you.

[-Foxtrot]

Don't be so God damn hostile towards people...you want to reply fine but show a little respect when people are saying their peace with reasonable comments

Jeez...

[quenomamen]

Its not about the women its about making her a Fortnite reject when could of easily gone with a more serious tone

[mogwaii]

Cucked libtards at it again, this generation is embarrassing.

[fatbastard11]

I'm still wondering why the British cartoon soldiers were fighting ALONGSIDE Jap soldiers at one point in the video, presumably somewhere in the middle of Belgium or France??????

[RebDomine2]

I want to play as a white man not female or black!

[SixFragz]

To all of the idiots saying that Battlefield is just a video game and that if we want historical accuracy to go watch a movie or read a book, just think about how much you are devaluing gaming as a medium of education and accuracy.

So, just because it is a video game, then we shouldn't treat history with the respect and weight that it rightfully deserves, because it's a video game? Get a grip. Gaming has come a very long way, and you can't possibly call yourself a gamer if you think this way.

Everyone has to be politically correct nowadays, even if that means re-writing history. If DICE wants to push a political agenda, which can even be said for the absolutely comical employing of Trevor fuqing Noah as the reveal host, then they absolutely should not tote this game as being an immersive WWII experience.

Women in a video game is not the problem. It's the political agendas being shoved right into our faces. I'm a huge Battlefield fan, and have gladly bought every BF game released since BFBC2, and yes, including Hardline. As a video game, BFV will no doubt be great, as the gameplay overhauls and innovations do look promising. But if people, like myself, who believe in their standards and wish to show that we won't stand for all the political agendas and SJW bs we are being force fed, then I might consider forgoing BFV for the sake of making a statement. The game will be great, but that's just how I feel, as do scores of other loyal BF gamers.

Call us stubborn if you'd like, but it goes both ways. The ones who see through this crap aren't saps like the SJW's, who try to permeate everything nowadays, even in media that they aren't consumers of. They ruin it for others. Their grasp and influence that developers like DICE cave to can be a dangerous precedent for newer generations that will grow up during this time and mistake shit like this for real history.

[Thunder_G0d_Bane]

It’s called battlefield 5 not battlefield ww2 and if you want realism then enroll in the army. It doesn’t get any realer than that.

[Imalwaysright]

My favorite gaming character of all time is the Boss. Dice shouldn't have responded to nothing.

[Gwiz]

Politics and entertainment usually go VERY well together,well in stand up comedy lol.

[OffRoadKing]

Its clearly being done for the sake of diversity, they've basically stated that. How long have we had articles now moaning and groaning about lack of diversity and gender inclusiveness in video games? This is simply a response to all the complaining. This way those handful of girls out there who will play BF V don't have to play as a dude. Hurrah! People who aren't happy with this better settle in cause its going to get worse.

[ThatGuyDart]

I don't understand how people care about this. Don't like it then don't buy the game. There are thousands of games out here for everyone to play, mostly lead with straight white males, so have at it.

[47]

292,000 dislikes on the trailer. On a Battlefield trailer. That shouldn’t be possible. DICE is in for a rude awakening come launch. They’re being outhyped by f’ing Black Ops for f***s sake.

[Silkside]

https://youtu.be/_i9L0rYKKg...

This video articulates our exact feeling on how dice are trying to fool us into accepting their outlandish cosmetic micro transactions.