Should Halo 6 be on Xbox One or the Next Xbox?

This is a bit of an odd place for the Xbox One and Microsoft as a whole as they seem to have lost a bit of momentum against their competitors. Both the Nintendo Switch and the PS4 are selling far better than its Microsoft counterpart and the lack of first-party titles makes it even more discouraging and a harder sell to consumers to invest their hard-earned funds on an Xbox One. With falling a bit behind, the Xbox One’s presence on the gaming market is taking a serious hit, but could their flagship franchise be able to turn the consoles fortune? Let us weigh in.

[PhoenixUp]

On Xbox One obviously

[naruga]

if Next Xbox is BC then it can be easily be released on Xone ...if not then only on Next Xbox-XoneX....Xone is on his (longtime now) downfall without any possible hope for return ....though Halo 6 being developped by lame 343 is like having a fail game even before release ...gold days of Halo CE cannot be redone imo

[mcstorm]

Tbh halo 4 sp was very good mp not so good halo 5 sp was not the best but MP is one of th best shooting MP games this gen. If 343i can get a sp like halo 4 and no like halo 5 they are on for a winner.

[sewad]

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[Jinger]

"though Halo 6 being developped by lame 343 is like having a fail game even before release ...gold days of Halo CE cannot be redone imo"

lol okay

[mark_parch]

halo 4 campaign was ok still a lot of flaws like having to read the books to get the full story of the didact and terrible cod style ending. halo 5 multiplayer was definitely a big step in the right direction but can definitely be improved like all the pointless and horrible armour variants. the story and characters in halo 5 were so bad I literally think it's close to impossible to fix the story now. I will settle for playing the whole game as master chief, being back on a halo ring and most importantly get rid of the annoying ai squad team mates in campaign

[WilliamSheridan]

It should come out when it's ready...

[DJStotty]

my money is on this year, announcement at E3

[Christopher]

Both.

[porkChop]

It should be on the Xbox One. Every console should go out with a bang with at least one big final game.

[DJStotty]

#dreams

[maybelovehate]

As long as it is on PC I don't care where else it is.

[Gazondaily]

Next Xbox imo

[gangsta_red]

But aren't al the new Xbox's going to be forward and backwards from this point on?

So I really don't think this question matters anymore.

[DemonChicken]

This +1

And if the next one, then releasing and making the Xbox One X was utterly pointless since there is limited first party games that showcase and make use of the console (ignoring third party efforts)

[2pacalypsenow]

Right but it would be held back by the Xbox 1 hardware instead of taking advantage of next gen hardware.

[gangsta_red]

@2pac

Not sure how Xbox 1 will hold it back considering all we might be seeing from this point on are upgrades in graphics and resolution.

Design wise games will be pretty much be all the same, unless some new way of interacting/controlling games becomes the standard that will make it impossible to be supported by Xbox 1.

[TheCommentator]

@ Gangsta Red

One thing likely to change quite a bit by the next consoles' release is physics. AI has a lot of room to grow as well. It may also be possible that the next consoles will be able to get to "full raytracing" but, according to Epic in a recent interview, that's going to take about 25Tf in order to realize... so I'm not sure we'll be there by the time they launch.

I think it's safe to assume that the 1X will become the base platform for "Next Gen" at a minimum since MS doesn't do generations anymore. By the time that happens though you'll be able to experience next gen games in 1080p for a couple hundred bucks on the 1X. So if MS is making the next Halo for the next Xbox it probably won't play on an Xbox One, but to me it's more realistic to think that the next Halo will be out before 2020 on current systems instead.

[DigitalRaptor]

"Not sure how Xbox 1 will hold it back considering all we might be seeing from this point on are upgrades in graphics and resolution."

In reality, how boring that would be? No, really what makes forward compatibility a non-starter is VR, which it's pretty clear that the next Xbox is going to support. The original XB1 is only powerful enough to deliver the most rudimentary of VR experiences at best. PS4 (as you know) has its own limitations for VR. Imagine just how held back VR would be on the next Xbox if forward compatibility becomes a thing. Heck, maybe they'll make an exception in forward compatibility for VR games, but my point still stands... if the only improvements next-gen are graphics and resolution and not enabling brand new gameplay experiences I figure that would be extremely disappointing to see.

[Gazondaily]

As crazy as this sounds, I agree with Digitalraptor here. Just an upgrade in res and visuals would suck.

I dont think thats gonna work; with physics and AI improvements- just the base tasks on some next gen titles will be too tasking for current gen consoles. Its why I dont understand how forward compatibility will work at all unless its cloud streaming based?

[Kaze24]

Yep, they should make Halo 6 on Xone then have a patch ready for the next xbox, higher detail and 60+ Fps.

[TheCommentator]

@ Digital Raptor

"...if the only improvements next-gen are graphics and resolution and not enabling brand new gameplay experiences I figure that would be extremely disappointing to see."

I agree, and you just described this generation to a tee. Same games as last gen, just prettier.

[gangsta_red]

@DigitalRaptor and Septic
I don't see VR as being in the actual plans for the forward/backwards compatibility MS was stating for Xbox.

Instead I'm guessing it's for games that only use the console to play and not an added peripheral or games specifically made for VR.

If anything games made by MS would have a VR option but still be able to be played regularly.

"if the only improvements next-gen are graphics and resolution and not enabling brand new gameplay experiences I figure that would be extremely disappointing to see"

We have already seen it this gen though. There hasn't been anything new gameplay/design wise that we haven't experienced last gen. The only added gameplay design experiences we have had is a camera button, other than that it's the same layout, the same game play design and the only thing that has improved is graphics/resolution (and of course bigger worlds).

Worlds in games will continue to get bigger, graphics will get sharper, res will get crispier but expecting new experiences like VR to take over traditional gaming, I wouldn't count on that just now.

I think streaming games will be the norm sooner than VR will.

"Its why I dont understand how forward compatibility will work at all unless its cloud streaming based?"

This is exactly what MS is working towards. In recent and past Phil interviews this is what he was saying the cloud would be used for and if this happens then Xbox can truly achieve the fw/bc they keep talking about.

[Obscure_Observer]

@DigitalRaptor

"No, really what makes forward compatibility a non-starter is VR, which it's pretty clear that the next Xbox is going to support."

The X was desinged to deliver current gen VR experiences with OCULUS and VIVE. Thing is, Microsoft thinks that VR need to mature and evolve to offer more than point and click (teleport) experiences. So there´s nothing preventing VR to be on X other than Microsoft themselves.

[Sayai jin]

Agreed, they need to bring something new.

[DigitalRaptor]

Xbox One needs it... so Xbox One.

[Lennoxb63]

Cross gen

[Cmv38]

Does it even matter?

[dgeviper]

They should make an incredible single player campaign and make it as best as it can be on the Xbox One X. It's a great system and needs more "wow factor" games.

[PhantomS42]

Are they going to course correct after the trainwreck that was 5? They are going to need to do a lot to bring players back after the lies, the terrible story, and the lack of splitscreen.

[TheRealHeisenberg]

What lies were told?

[Razmiran]

The marketing revolved around Locke vs Chief but the story is not about that

[Bobafret]

I enjoyed 5 a lot. So did a lot of others.

[slate91]

The gameplay in 5 was a step in the right direction. But they need to return to the classic halo movement that made Halo iconic. The story was atrocious in 5 though.

[Parasyte]

People need to get over the lack of splitscreen. That is a feature that is quickly dying.

[Eldyraen]

Next gen they can probably bring it back strong. 4K singleplayer and 1080-1440p split, based on game’s technical level.

Things like that is part of why resolution can come in handy in the future. Easier “power swap” that won’t hurt frames as much. Not saying it will be revived, but it’s a great trade off for it to make a return.

[ghostrider32]

Halo need a vacation, and 343 need to be allowed to make something brand new.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

343 loves making Halo games. What else has Sony Santa Monica made besides GOW?

[Imalwaysright]

They helped several studios with their games but since the 1st GoW I believe that the only games that were not collaborations and were their own, were the GoW games. Helping other studios is fine and dandy but to me is a waste of their talent when they're not leading their own projects and are helping to develop crap games like The Order.

[Razmiran]

Im sure a company of exploited and underpaid code monkeys love making halo, sure

[starsi360]

@Razmiran "Im sure a company of exploited and underpaid code monkeys love making halo, sure"

Thank you for enlightening us all with this information, you must know a lot about the inner working of the company. Who needs Glassdoor when we can rely on your insider knowledge? (Glassdoor reviews seem rather favorable from employees of 343i BTW)

[Razmiran]

Too bad the positive work enviroment does not reflect in good games

[starsi360]

@razmiran First you spout “underpaid and exploited code monkeys”. Now you’re accepting a positive work environment but stating their games are sh**. Well the Halo 5 MP was and still is exceptional, and that’s almost universally accepted... so it looks like you are spouting non stop BS. Go back and play God of War and stop hijacking an xbox thread!

[Razmiran]

Hijacking
So Im taking hostages now?
Anyways, no its not, and its not universally accepted. Everywhere you go its "Classic halo has to come back!", you clearly have no standards and "Halo of duty" is good enough for you, but at least ask for even a tiny bit of an improvement
Also, when it comes to ps4 ive been playing Yakuza lately, splatoon on switch, since you seem to be intrested on my gaming habits

[Eldyraen]

I wouldn’t mind, but doubt it will happen. I still enjoy Halo but whatever comes after 6 needs to be solid. Also, don’t just plan on a new trilogy again and see how it goes from there.

Same for Coalition and Gears. I don’t mind more of either one, but just decide if trilogies are really the best bet. A stand-alone a generation or even a duo can hold over most fans if it’s the pinnacle of the franchise. So quality over quantity is all aim saying. Don’t just assume you need 3+ releases to tell a story.

[343_Guilty_Spark]

It will be on both duh

[trooper_]

Why can't a new IP exist?

[The_Jackel]

coz its got to be gears halo or forza dahhhh you should know this silly lol

[DillyDilly]

The next XBOX would likely have Backwards Compatibility so both should not be an issue

[bluefox755]

I think it'll be on Xbox One, they NEED something at this point, even if it's just a Halo game that's not as good as the old ones, it'll absolutely be better than Sea of Thieves.

[showtimefolks]

Next Xbox can't/won't come out anytime soon. Fall 2020 at the earliest but might have to be a year after Ps5 in fall 2021

And Xbox one need games now. 343 have some of the best top their talent in gaming yet I feel like it's too many chefs in one kitchen kind of a thing. Halo 6 needs to deliver because halo IP has lost so much value and impact its just not what it use to be

Sony has survived without making. Fps because that's one type of game almost every 3rd party publishers delivers so why compete against them when they sell the most on your brand anyway

In a perfect world we wouldn't see a new halo or gears till launch of the next Xbox

[Bobafret]

Hopefully the rumored Perfect Dark will help take up some slack.

[showtimefolks]

Oh yeah honestly ms should rest some of these IP's for 3 years and than release at Launch of next Xbox to make heavy impact

This E3 ms needs to bring it

Proper fable
Perfect dark

Proper showing of crackdown 3 that looks good and eliminate all doubts

Maybe recore 2 and sunset overdrive 2. Ryse 2

Do like Sony with helping find SF5 and Nintendo funded Bayonetta, find some older games and help fund than for timed exclusive deal

Sony is helping with DMC5(rumor)

It's time to grow the Xbox brand world wide

Help fund remastering of time splitter or ominusha series for a timed exclusive

But knowing ms they will focus more on games which have revving income GAAS

[DJStotty]

@show time

What games are GAAS? (other than sea of thieves)

[Eldyraen]

6’s story returned to MC and Cortana would be a big step in the right direction. Locke’s perspective was “okay”, but didn’t fit the narrative we’ve come to expect with MC (numbered) Halo games.

It should end the trilogy in one of two ways: Cortana dies (possibly MC as well), or she solves Rapancy problem as she is now and perhaps 5’s other ai that guides Locke ends up being a backup of her younger, pre-ascendant self. So cortana in 6 is both the good and bad guy basically. The ai in it is numbered, so Cortana might have simply split herself into seperate entities to sort of create a completely dehumanized Ascendant Self. If so, she might be redeemable and sort of cannabilize her evil twin so to speak to regain her former self.

Which could leave 7 open to a MC that hides her away from usmc at the end of 6, as no matter what they’ll probably not let it go. He’s more grizzled and pseudo retired until the next threat (returned flood). She becomes the “greater good” such as the Spartan program was once Covenant arrived. Make 7 darker, more character driven in a world that Evil Cortana in part helped bring about. So you explore a Flood invasion on a weakened Human and Elite alliance. Covenant rebuilders, or a new regiment ruled by Brutes.

[Cajun Chicken]

Xbox One. I'm not finishing the fight of a disjointed trilogy on a new system.

[GamingSinceForever]

If you let Phil Spencer tell it you can play it on both.

[Parasyte]

Personally, I think the Halo franchise needs a break.

[DJStotty]

Its had a 3 year break already

[Razmiran]

Should there be a halo 6?

[spicelicka]

This is a pointless headline. Halo 6 is supposed to come fall 2019 at the latest. No one in their right mind thinks they will release a brand new console by then. By brand new I mean the NEXT xbox, not an upgraded console.

[zaidsaifi]

The Only game that need to be on Xbox One right is Knack 2

[Kaze24]

lol Sony can keep that crap.

[zaidsaifi]

You call the sacred game a crap?

[Xavi4K]

Lunch title for next xbox it should boost the sales for the system and give the system great start.

[Eldyraen]

I think 6 needs to finish the arch on One.

Get it out of the system, pardon the pun, and pick it up with the Flood in the next gen. Gravemind isn’t dead after all. Focus on that the entire time going back to a sort of dark H2 setting. Maybe some side missions about what happened with Covenant and Brutes (perhaps flood was busy there) while Cortana has everyone tied up and Flood comes back swinging with everything else now in a weakness state.

Start off the next xbox with rumored Fable reboot, Forza, and maybe a shooter from a new studio or licensed one out for a stand-alone game (for example: Judgement was made by People Can Fly, not Epic directly, think they bought them later?—not the best Gears but serviceable stand-alone although I don’t need arcade mode in main campaign). New IP would be best as it’s their weakest area this gen to begin with ( first party wise). So start next strong with a Regular, a reboot, and a new ip.

[Eldyraen]

On One, start the next story entirely on new hardware. I doubt Halo is going anywhere and there are other stories to tell, I just don’t need another protagonist thrown in this arch.

Next? Maybe go with someone else if timeline and story is worth it. Spoilers but whatever: Or Cortana might fix rampancy issues in 6 for all we know, then sort of reboots a saved Construct of herself from before her ascendency. Unless something like that happens, MC should be close to done unless post-Cortana can make him a more interesting character.

Halo Reach is pretty well loved, Halo aware even had some interesting bits (Isabel was cool ai), and I didn’t have anything against Locke other than how they handled 5’s story in general.

As Halo Wars, and I assume books I haven’t read, can attest the flood is still around and Covenant downfall left powerplays unchecked as well. Plenty they can do if they want to keep Halo strong.

[Yohshida]

every xbox got 2 mainline halo games. Just stop with this nonsense

[Razmiran]

360 got 3 and an expansion

[TheColbertinator]

Reach was excellent. I miss that game

[Razmiran]

I really dont know if it was new for me at the time, but firefight used to be a blast, now horde modes bore me easily

[MrSec84]

I thought ODST and Reach were both considered mainline Halo games, alongside 3 & 4.
In that case there were 4, if only the numbered entries are mainline games then it was 2.

[Razmiran]

I do consider reach mainline, I was not sure about odst since I never played it (But I think it was just a campaign? The multiplayer was the halo 3 multiplayer I thought)

[Yohshida]

2 Mainline 3 spinoffs and 1 Remaster yep

This Gen its
MCC, Halo Wars 2 and Halo 5

[jokerisalive]

Xbox One with X enhancements is the logical no brainer conclusion as well as a killer exclusive which MS needs at this time with others.

[Angerfist]

If it continues the path of the last games I don't care.

[BLKxSEPTEMBER]

Xbox one but it should a REALLY show what the X can do.

[meganick]

PS4.

[danny818]

MS has made it clear on how they show support with older consoles. So the question will be, "will they release Halo 6 alongside the new Xbox?"

[Jon61586]

Just let Halo die

[MrSec84]

Yeah unless they're going to make a good game I think they should move on from the series.

Perhaps 343i could make a new IP, with their own identity.

[3-4-5]

Next Xbox....just wait and have it be a launch game in 2020.

[candystop]

Skip Halo 6 and start over with a new Halo series, original theme music and all on xb.one

[starsi360]

The author clearly doesn't understand or has ignored the part where Microsoft has said that Xbox will be backwards compatible by design from now on....

This headline is a bit like saying "Should Angry Birds 5 be on iPhone 7 or iPhone 8?"

Well duh, it's releasing on the Xbox platform full stop.

You could say "Should Halo 6 come out before or after the next Xbox hardware releases?", that would make sense.

[noxeven]

PC with full cross play support. Please and thank you

[Kaze24]

So PC master race can say Xone doesn't have any games? No thanks, they should stop with the pc/xone games and make some xbox only games like they did with the first xbox.

[MrSec84]

XB1 doesn't have many games, most likely the next Halo will be made for all Windows platforms going forward.
I think it'll be made for cross gen and cross platform, with the next XBox being BC.

Either the next Halo game will release this Fall or Fall 2019.

[iplay1up2]

Hallo 5 solo player was BORING. So I don't care.

[AmstradAmiga]

Wasn't boring it was just not what the marketing made out it was going to be. The Master Chief sections were solid but overall the story was flat apart from the set-up for the next installment in the final cinematic.

[Tko1111]

Such a dumb post when Xbox next will be backwards and forward compatible

[EpicFruityPie]

halo has gone too far can it and come up with something original im sick of same games all the time
though ps4 has had some good single player ones out

[Wh1teLightning]

Xbox One X of course.

[MrSec84]

IMO the next Halo should be more single player focused, have big environments, lots of physics interactions in environments, even if that means 343i has to forego the 60FPS frame rate target.

Locked 30FPS, with good motion blur felt really smooth on 360 with Halo 4.
Sure 60FPS is a great thing in FPS games, but it shouldn't come at the expense of gameplay features and dynamic environments in modern games.
Maybe 343 can do more with an updated engine on base XB1, but 60FPS will still put more hard limits on physics features possible in any game.

Hopefully they can also sort out those choppy distant character animations and the LOD issues of Halo 5 in the next game.

Clearly Halo 6 or whatever it's called will be on XB1, S & X, as there won't be another new XBox home console until Fall 2020 at the earliest. The next XBox would likely run this through BC and handle it with better features all around.

[killagram]

You know this click bait is ridiculous, right? XBX is only six months old and you're asking whether a console defining title should be released on newer hardware.

[ClanPsi1]

I truly hope there isn't another xbox. M$ should just give up and leave.

[FinalFantasyFanatic]

Depends on how far along development is, it'd be fine on either console.

[DJStotty]

When are these articles going to stop. Another one centred around the "lack of exclusives".

They are coming, you cant make good new games in 12 months, they take time

[CrimsonWing69]

Trick question, the correct answer is neither. They’re running this series into the ground.

[maybelovehate]

On PC