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Metal Gear Solid 4 is still a gaming masterpiece – Reader’s Feature

"I vividly remember the hype surrounding Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns Of The Patriots’ release in 2008. It was not only the fact that Hideo Kojima had returned for another instalment in his critically acclaimed franchise, but the game also marked the final chapter in the story of an iconic character: Solid Snake. ‘This is my final mission’, Snake proclaimed in a trailer. As Metal Gear Solid heavily influenced my early teens (and long beyond it, too) it sent the chills down my spine when Snake uttered those words and set the stage for his final adventure."

JKSimmons2205d ago

I agree. I know many people don't but I loved Kojima's work on MGS4.

Cyb3r2205d ago

It was way better than MGS5

Deep-throat2205d ago (Edited 2205d ago )

No way.

There's one thing that's far better in MGS4: boss fights, awesome boss fights.

MGS5 has three boss fights. Super odd for a MGS game.

naruga2205d ago

@Deep throat ..you dont know what your talking about ....MGS5 is crap whole together ...i can say is not even a canon MGS title....MGS4 is a prophetic masterpiece far beyond your casual gaming understanding

morganfell2205d ago

Completely in error Deep.

MGS4 s a masterpiece with a final sequence reveal 20 years in the making.

You play 5 major canon titles then MGS4 only to discover everything you had been doing, everything for which you fought was a lie. All those people you thought were evil were for the most part on the right side. And some whom you trusted were the true enemy. It is the biggest bomb drop reveal in the history of gaming.

Razzer2205d ago

Only reason Deep-throat says that is because it was the only MGS on Xbox. Period.

ocelot072205d ago

@Razzer

Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance released on the original Xbox and PC about a year after MGS2 released on PS2. MGS3 also released on 360,PC,3DS a few years after it released on PS2.

The only Metal Gear Solid titles that are still exclusive to PlayStation are Metal Gear Solid 4 for the PS4. As well as Metal Gear Acid and Acid 2 and Portable Ops on the PSP.

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Razzer2205d ago (Edited 2205d ago )

@ocelot07

Thanks for the correction. Either way, MGS 4 wasn't on Xbox and so his opinion is defined by that and that alone. If he is anything, it is predictably consistent.

@gamerzero

I mean....he makes it so obvious.

Imalwaysright2205d ago

Deep-throat

Agree. MGS5 is the better game. About half hour of MGS classic stealth gameplay was simply not enough especially when the stealth mechanics were amazing. So much wasted potential and all because it wanted to be a movie instead of a game. Thankfully the gameplay came back with a vengeance in MGS5.

Kryptix2205d ago

MGS 4 was incredible from beginning to end and it was written well and what made it more epic was how every intense fight always felt like it was going to be Snake's last.

MGS5, man, it's good, but the story was dry and set you up from disappointment to disappointment. Repeating missions, just harder versions, it had too much filler. Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed the combat, but it felt like in between those segments, it wasn't pieced togethered properly. I would of enjoyed a smaller map and less missions if it gave me a consistent entertainment value of well written dialogue. I remember there wasn't much dialogue coming from Snake and also, no David Hayter made it feel less of a a real MGS game.

Deep-throat doesn't know what he's talking about. Most likely just watched some bits on YouTube without realizing that MGS4's story is also far better than MGS5's.

noprin2204d ago

I completely agree
as a die hard fan,that finish all of the mgs at least 3 times,I think 3 and 4 are the best in the series
MGS4 delivered what was promised an ending to an epic story with so many good memories
I remembered how emotional I got when I played the act 4 Shadow Moses
damn I wish I could play it on PS4

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Yui_Suzumiya2205d ago

Hell yes.. that was the last true MGS

submarinna2205d ago

mgs 4 might have had too long cutscenes but that game is a masterpiece in my books, something mgsv is not.

porkChop2205d ago

I didn't mind that the cutscenes were long. Most of them were fine. My problem was how frequent they sometimes were. Especially in Chapter 1. The game was a masterpiece though, and I really wish the series had just ended there.

Inzo2205d ago (Edited 2205d ago )

It wouldnt be a MG game if it didnt.

neutralgamer19922205d ago

sub

that's the one thing i missed in MGS5 the cut scenes

CobraKai2205d ago

I agree. The lack of cinematic cutscenes really hurt MGSV. They were prolly trying to cater to the criticism that there are too many cutscenes, but in the end, it didn’t feel like MGS.

Except for “those” Quiet scenes. Those scenes were aces in my book.

neutralgamer19922205d ago

cobrakai

agreed kojima tried chasing new fans for his series while thinking his old school fans won't mind and sadly the last experience of a MGS developed by kojima just wasn't up to par

trooper_2205d ago

The cutscenes were well done, imo.

The_Jackel2204d ago

still shorter than quantum break.... they were shocking. either that or just more boring then mgs4's

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chrcharcor22205d ago

I love all the MG games to a certain degree (well...maybe not Snake's Revenge), and I remember the hype around MGS4 back in 2008 and how well (to me, anyway) it lived up to it. I'd love to see a remake on PS4, though these days who knows what Konami will do with Metal Gear.

solideagle2205d ago

I personally think MGS3 is the best MGS but that's just my opinion. some of the bosses in MGS4 are not memorable...

bigmalky2204d ago (Edited 2204d ago )

If you rate the games by bosses like that, you will then MGS is 5 times better than 3.

None of the games after the first had such well put together boss battles as a whole.

Sgt_Slaughter2205d ago

If it were any other company, The MGS games would have gotten a PS4/One/Switch HD version, just like Resident Evil and Dead Rising.

DivineAssault 2205d ago

All the metal gears were good in their own right.. Death Stranding should be interesting..

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20 Saddest Video Game Moments of All Time

Cultured Vultures: If you’ve got some feelings you want to dredge up all over again, or if spending more than 15 minutes on Twitter has caused you to become completely numb, these are the saddest video game moments that we will never forget.

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mandf79d ago

Kingdom hearts was really sad at the end. The darkness when Jenny dies was shocking and sad

shinoff218378d ago

Mine have to be last of us, Joel's daughter. Maybe it hits different when you have kids vs bot. I'll throw ff7 up there to. On the verge of looking like some sort of love triangle then bam, death

Christopher78d ago

The reveal trailer for Fast & Furious Crossroads

Knightofelemia77d ago

I think Dom's wife's death in Gears 2 was sadder then Dom. Dom's death in Gears 3 just felt rushed.

phoenixwing77d ago (Edited 77d ago )

John Marston dying and ff7

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PS3 exclusive Metal Gear Solid 4 was once ‘running beautifully’ on Xbox 360

The game's assistant producer says the number of discs was an issue.

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darthv72313d ago

Obviously they would had to remove all references to bluray in the game had they actually proceeded to make this happen. Id bet it would be something like at least 3-4 discs though.

Flawlessmic313d ago

The most interesting thing to hear is that there was no exclusivity deal, which we all assumed there was.

It was simply Sony's forward thinking and tech that put them in the position where there console was the only one that could do it the way Konami wanted.

This gives me hope mgs 4 will definitely be a part of the volume 2 collection

GhostScholar313d ago

The fact that mgs 4 hasn’t been on ps4 or 5 is a real head scratcher. Seems like a really dumb move. Also if it was such forward tech on the ps3 why wasn’t it put out on ps4? Doesn’t makes sense.

CobraKai313d ago

@Ghost
Forward move at the time. Plus the PS3 exclusives arent the easiest to port and Konami, especially with the fallout of MGS’ creator, probably won’t invest the time and money on it.

@Darth
They would also have to get rid of Apple products. The PS3 and PSP in the nomad. Rerecord the inside joke about swapping discs and mentioning the PS3.

TrueGamer79313d ago

MG4 is my personal favorite of the series. I’d def rebuy the remake to play the game again. I do wonder why they haven’t ported 4 to ps4 or ps5.

neomahi312d ago

@ Cobra Kai - I don't know, man, they've gone a while without making money since Kojima left, I think they're wanting to make money again and that's money, just not as might as they might think. They're better off letting Metal Gear lie in infamy and letting new aspiring developers that want to work on new games, like Silent Hill are their best bets

CobraKai312d ago

@Neo
They were invested in pachinko and soccer. Konami used to be one of my favorite game companies, then they just didn’t care about video games.

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neutralgamer1992313d ago

Now that both Xbox and PlayStation use Blu-ray wouldn’t those jokes stay in and instead apply to Nintendo now

Computersaysno313d ago (Edited 313d ago )

MGS4 is about 32GB. Most of the big data files were merely uncompressed audio and high quality HD video used extensively in MGS4. The game used the space because it was available, not because it really needed to.

You could probably more than halve the space required settling for normal 360 compression codecs and say 720p compressed video files. Fit the whole game on two dual layer DVD discs.

Case in point was MGSV ended up only 25GB, despite that game having massively better visuals and big environments. Second case: FFXIII was 38GB on PS3 but only 18GB on X360, because compression.

I_am_Batman312d ago

The MGS franchise always had real-time cutscenes so those aren't compressible video files. The older games had some real-life video footage but they've stopped using these with MGS4, so I don't know what extensive usage of HD video you're talking about.

Computersaysno310d ago (Edited 310d ago )

Actually Metal Gear Solid 4 had about thirteen minutes of of HD video at the very start of the game, but the point was the 7.1 soundtrack throughout was uncompressed. Eight channels. This was a massive chunk of the data on the disc. The game had 8 hours of cut scene audio alone. Plus music and dialogue codecs and everything else actually in game!

It wouldn't be very hard to compress all this down to far smaller file sizes with minimal quality loss. It certainly wasn't the visuals or texture assets that made the game file size 32GB! None of this was critical to the game actually working compressed and mixed for 6 channels which was far more common anyway.

I'm glad that I cleared that up for you.

sparky77313d ago

The good news from this means it should be possible to port to current gen consoles if they were able to get it to run without the CELL.

I do remember back then how everyone said it was only possible on the CELL reminds me of todays it's only possible on the PS5's SSD.

MrDead313d ago

A regurgitation of fanboy buzzwords with no understanding, context or meaning.

Aloymetal313d ago

That's their 20+ yrs side effects of sodium intake, delusions, hopes and dreams. also known as la la land syndrome...They all suffer from this.

RaidenBlack313d ago

Can't comment on the 'only possible on the CELL' part but if a game was made specifically utilizing CELL's complex architecture, then it was more difficult to port but not totally impossible.
Now if there exists a X360 port of MGS4, then it should be relatively feasible to port to x86 based systems.

XBManiac312d ago

PowerPC based CELL and Xbox 360 CPUs had little in common with x86.

KwietStorm_BLM313d ago

A smart person says a game made for the Cell makes it harder to port to other platforms. A sparky person says a game made for PS3 is only possible because of the Cell, or any other negative PlayStation derivative.

Magog313d ago

So porting it shouldn't be hard. A 360 is very similar to modern console and PC structure.

ChasterMies313d ago

Xbox 360 is not similar to modern consoles. Xbox 360 ran on a multi-core PowerPC processor. Apple had to write Rosetta to make PowerPC apps run on Intel processors when they switched from PowerPC to Intel. It’s why Xbox 360 backwards compatibility is on a game-by-game basis. Funny enough, the Cell Processor is a custom PowerPC processor.

XBManiac312d ago

Remember that CELL was also PowerPC based arquitecture...

shadowknight203313d ago

As much as I would love to play mgs4 again, and I still hope to, I know playing it will bring back my old school Metal Gear Online days, and I miss that part of the game so, so much. 😢

Shane Kim313d ago

Man MGO was so damn good. That and KZ2 are probably the best multiplayer games imo.

Chocoburger312d ago

The game is still online via fan servers, I think its even playable on PC these days. You can play MGO 2 right now if you wanted to, nothing is stopping you from doing so.

RedDeadLB313d ago (Edited 313d ago )

isnt this old news anyway? did they not say that Microsoft were generally more interested in Rising back in the old days?

From the mouth of Snake himself: https://youtu.be/vkdKNuzO1R...

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Kojima talks about Metal Gear Solid 4 as the game celebrates its 15th anniversary

Hideo Kojima discussed some of the creative processes behind Metal Gear Solid 4 as the game celebrates its 15th anniversary.

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Nyxus321d ago

Hard to believe it's been 15 years already!

Silver_ShadoWolf321d ago

I loved the movie Metal Gear Solid 4.

atsugiT2321d ago

Thats crazy.. 15 years before that, starfox was brand new. It seems like ages between those two, but mgs4 feels like it just happened.

Nyxus321d ago

Yeah, it's also pretty crazy to think there's far more time between now and MGS4 (15 years) than between MGS4 and MGS1 (9 years).

autoglope321d ago

Still amazing looking and playing game ,.. about 5 hours too many cut-scenes) But still love it,..

Sniperwithacause321d ago

Well it has a story to tell, and it tells it perfectly with those cut-scenes.

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