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Naughty Dog | An Update from Studio President Evan Wells

Naughty Dog President Evan Wells shares some exciting updates about the studio and The Last of Us Part II.

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AspiringProGenji2257d ago

Naughty Dog, the Tom Brady of Game developers

-Foxtrot2257d ago

Tom Brady couldn't even handle a fat New England guy sing Shipoopi on the playing field

doos_vd_kak2256d ago

Sony still has the strongest line up this year.

FITgamer2257d ago

Oh hell no. You better put some RESPEC on the Naughty Dog name.

Skankinruby2257d ago

I hate Brady with every fiber of my being, but you're right, GOAT

EverydayGuy2257d ago

Your saying Naughty Dog cheats?

InTheZoneAC2257d ago

Tom Brady without an OL=throwing passes into the ground, even with BB as the HC

Tom Brady with protection=one of the best all time

Just a FYI

InTheZoneAC2255d ago

I guess no one remembers the Giants vs Patriots or Ravens vs Patriots a couple times in the playoffs?

Foxhound9222256d ago

Skill-wise, you'd be correct. Everything else, you couldn't be more wrong.

subtenko2256d ago

ewww dont compare these fine developers to overpaid BS NFL people (not that I know much about tom brady tbh, I hate the NFL)

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-Foxtrot2257d ago

I just hope in the end Neil's feminist agenda dosen't become over blown...as much as he's a great director

Eonjay2257d ago

Agenda? You do realize that all of us have opinions. You included. That doesn't mean you have an agenda just because I might disagree with you.

-Foxtrot2257d ago (Edited 2257d ago )

Not really an opinion though when you are trying hard to make it's fact

Take Uncharted female characters...Elena, Chloe, Rikka, Marisa, all pretty well written and grounded for what the games are. Then you have super soldier Nadine trying to prove a point because the writer is trying to please people like Anita.

See the difference? The former female characters were written the way they are for the game while the latter was a little bit of a statement from Neil thus being the least female character out of them all. It's not a coincidence.

SoulWarrior2257d ago (Edited 2257d ago )

@Foxtrot, you realise that Nadine got her arse kicked by Asav pretty badly a couple of times times right? Hardly a super soldier, I think you're really reaching there.

-Foxtrot2257d ago

@CaptainSellers

You mean in Lost Legacy...the newer game set after Uncharted 4 where they took in fan feedback to try and make her likable

OffRoadKing2257d ago

Agenda and opinions are very different things and some people clearly have an agenda.

Silly gameAr2257d ago

If seems like everything he doesn't agree with is an agenda. Nadine especially, He has a deep hatred for that woman that I can't even begin to understand.

thekhurg2257d ago

If you've read some of the hyper liberal/SJW stuff Neil posts online - you'd realize he does have an agenda.

Doesn't make his games bad - but he does have a ridiculous agenda.

TricksterArrow2256d ago (Edited 2256d ago )

Nadine gets b*** slapped and put in her place by Rafe in the original Uncharted 4.

KwietStorm_BLM2256d ago

Didn't you know? Women are all supposed to be weak and stay in their lane. Every single one of them. So in the rare occasion when a female like Nadine is strong, someone has an "agenda," because reasons.

I mean how lame do you have to be as a man to be complaining ad nauseum about feminist agendas because of a videogame character. Doesn't take much to threaten people in this world.

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TroubleShot2257d ago

Guy putting prominent women in his game = agenda. Said the crazy person.

_-EDMIX-_2257d ago

What agenda? Are you seriously telling me that just because you disagree with something that anybody that makes a game about it must have an agenda?

Ironically speaking any social justice Warrior could come out and say that any game with a male protagonist. Straight is fitting some agenda I'm sorry but both arguments are completely stupid.

Any artist could make any game they want for any reason they want.

So are you telling me artistic design is not the ultimate agenda? They're not allowed to have that? Smh

Buddy if your biggest worry is about the main reason behind why someone wrote a specific game I don't know if you should even be playing games anymore if this is seriously what you're worried about, you could spend your entire life never even knowing why any designer writer artist singer film director game designer what have you did something....

rainslacker2256d ago

I haven't seen this "agenda" make it's way into his games. Maybe some more representation of "progressive" groups, but he's made them fit into the games they are placed in. Ellie being gay was the first thing that showed up, and that wasn't blatant. Beyond that, what else has he done to indicate that his opinions will shape his games for the worst? Every writer or director has some of themselves in their writing. All that matters is if it's done from the point of view of proper representation because it can make a good story, or if it's forced in to try and make some political statement. Ellie being gay didn't seem like a political statement, nor did Nadine being made black after her initial creation. They were just aspects of the character which were either handled well in the case of Ellie, or were fairly inconsequential to the character in UC, except in the case of Nadine, at least it made sense based on her back story.

RememberThe3572256d ago (Edited 2256d ago )

It seems like some people feel threatened when cliches are flipped. What the hell is threatening about powerful women? More power to em. If it adds to the story or feel, do it. We ask for more dynamic, interesting characters and he gives them to us. I hope he keeps pushing his characters into narrow places, the results are almost always fantastic.

rainslacker2256d ago

I think back on ND more recent games like UC or TLOU, and I keep thinking about how they have quite a few female characters. Without fail, they tend to be strong women, with their own personalities, and they have their own usefulness to the story or in some cases the game play.

I find it rather funny that Foxtrot singles out Nadine, when you had Elena who was a successful journalist, and could hold her own in a gun fight, and was often smarter than the main character himself.

You have Chloe who was just as capable as the main character, could kick ass, could hold her own in a gun fight, and was often smarter than the main character himself.

You have Ellie, who despite being a 14 year old teen, could pick up a rifle for the first time that was much more powerful than she should have been able to handle given her weight and strength, and could snipe enemies from 100 yards away, sneak around and use her head to get through stressful situations, and could wail against clickers and thugs alike with ferocious violent intent to kill, and no one said a word.

You have Riley, who despite being a young teenager, is smart, and can hold her own in a fight, and is knowledgeable about a lot of things which someone in her situation really shouldn't be knowledgeable in. '

You have Tess who is probably more in charge than Joel is in their smuggling ring. Is a capable fighter, and can hold her own in a gun fight.

You have Marlene who is the leader of the only known resistance group in TLOU. She's smart, passionate, and despite not shown that much, can hold her own in a fight. No reason for her to be black, but she is. No explicable reason why she is the leader of the fireflies, but she is without complaint, and given the context of the story, commands a great deal of respect, and is feared by whatever establishment exist to keep order.

You have Marlowe, who is a cold and calculating leader of a secret society, and is apparently very successful in life, and commands respect...even among the protagonist. No explicable reason why she's a female, but she is, and no one says a word.

But then you have Nadine. A trained soilder with a real cause and reason for being the right hand man of the main protagonist, and suddenly, there is no explicable reason for her being able to fight other than some SJW agenda. Her being black makes no sense, despite being the daughter of a war monger from South Africa.

FoxTrot in particular has really zeroed in on this character, but seems to ignore all the women in ND games past and present, even though half those women were around before Druckman's agenda was made more public.

Death2256d ago

How does Ellie’s sexual preference being known make the game better? Not knowing a characters preference makes them relatable to all gamers. Knowing can isolate them. If establishing a characters sexuality doesn’t drive the story forward, it is simply pushing an agenda.

UCForce2256d ago

@Death Can you say the same thing with Halo 5 campaign ? I played Halo 5 campaign and there was some parts that have agenda in it. I won’t spoil it, but you will know where it is. Naughty Dogs games are always about story telling and characters development. I’m sorry, but you are just one blindsided without seeing two or three.

rainslacker2256d ago (Edited 2256d ago )

@Death

I prefer it before Druckman said she was gay. Before that, it could have been interpreted as a intimate moment between two close friends. It didn't have to be based on sexual preference. Everything up to that point just seemed like two close friends.

I was disappointed when Druckman said that was his intent, because the rest of the game left a lot of things open to discussion.

That being said, if you ignore what was said, her sexual preference was moot, and still is unless you explore it further outside the game. Just like Bill's sexual preference was moot. It was added without noticeable pretext, and whatever their sexual preference was, it didn't change their character. Bill's sexual preference had nothing to do with the story, but it did establish the character and gave you more insight into who they were. Sometimes, story is more than just driving narrative, because the characters and how they fit into the narrative is part of telling a story. Sometimes these things are done in a way that works, other times it's done in a way that seems forced. Like in Mass Effect 3, it seemed forced. In ND games, it doesn't feel so as much, because it's more of a side note than a focus.

Like I said, something of the author is going to always be present in their work. It can't be avoided. It doesn't mean it's for an agenda. He may have an agenda, but it's not like he's beating us over the head with it.

RememberThe3572256d ago

@death It gives her character a depth, makes her different than Lara Croft. It's offbeat for female leads and helps lessen her as a sexual object (to keep up tension and all that other kind of crap while actually playing). I love Aloys hips when she's walking and the same with Lara Croft, it lightens the tone, not saying that's bad though. There are a number of reasons why Ellie's story, as it was told, was worth telling.

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Mr Lahey2256d ago

Fox, just go play something else then..

gangsta_red2256d ago

The agree/disagree ratio tho. Go get 'em Fox!

UCForce2256d ago

Do you think that Fox always right ? You, me and Fox aren’t always right. We can be hypocrites, overthinking and be a jerk. Fox maybe right, but he just being hyper sensitive.

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sprinterboy2256d ago (Edited 2256d ago )

Congrats to all, it wasn't just Neil you know.

Avengerz432257d ago

Best studio in gaming, can't wait to lose my everyday life to TLoU 2 when it launches.

AspiringProGenji2257d ago

I hope I don’t die before TLoU 2 comes.

mch2011uk2257d ago (Edited 2257d ago )

Well done Neil for getting rid of Amy.

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Square Enix Preparing for Layoffs in U.S. and Europe Amid Heavy Restructuring

In a town hall that took place on Monday, Square Enix president Takashi Kiryu reportedly confirmed imminent layoffs in the U.S. and Europe.

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lelo2play8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Square should ask Sony for more money...

Outside_ofthe_Box3h ago

Square should ask Microsoft to buy them out...

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

@Outside_ofthe_Box,
So that Microsoft can close down the studio after doing nothing with them? Right...

gleepot7h ago

Sad but true. It's the consequence of a shift in player habits, massive overhead, and out of control budgets across the industry.

blackblades9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

What did NA and EU did anyways? Just translate or something? I would say it might help them get back to there roots but DK.

Hofstaderman8h ago(Edited 8h ago)

Actually, you are correct they play a hand in localization especially in Europe with the many languages. That and marketing.

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Xbox Gives Incoherent Explanation For ‘Hi-Fi Rush’ Studio Closure

The gaming world is still reeling from the announcement that Microsoft is shuttering Tango Gameworks, the studio behind last year’s big Xbox hit, Hi-Fi Rush.

Reaper22_4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

They have a reason but they don't need to give a explanation. Gamers nowadays think they have a say so in telling people how to run their company. It's not the end of the world, fanboys. Microsoft is gonna due what benefits them the most. It's never been about you. Same with sony. Some of you need to get a grip. The crazy part is that some of the ones complaining don't even own an xbox.

enkiduxiv4h ago

I don’t own an Xbox and I have no real interest in HiFi Rush. I just hate to see a talented group of people lose their jobs when they did everything that was asked of them. You know… the decent, normal reaction to have when something like this happens.

Relientk771d 7h ago

There's no logical or good reason to give for closing Tango Gameworks. They make great games consistently and Hi-Fi Rush was the highest rated Xbox game in literal YEARS. Closing the studio was just plain stupid and nonsensical.

notachance11h ago

It’s quite strange to not see Phil Spencer in any talkshow or podcast… usually the dude would talk almost daily when there’s even a bit of news from xbox.

Hofstaderman10h ago

Muzzled and/or in on it from the very beginning. You have to be a very stupid person not to anticipate that your division is going to be under scrutiny from shareholders after 80 Billion Dollars worth of acquisitions

Aloymetal10h ago

The beauty of being a CEO here in America is that when your company does well, you get extra money as a reward...
And when your company does badly, you get extra money to encourage you to stick around and lead it through the storm...And at some point, you get to bow out and float toward retirement on your golden parachute, which means and you guessed it, MORE MONEY!! What a deal for snake oil man Phil!!

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-Foxtrot6h ago(Edited 6h ago)

Oh god no

You see when shit like this happens he throws Sarah Bond to the wolves

Seriously I only hear from her when it’s the yearly big Xbox showcase or when it’s super bad.

When the whole multiplatform release came out earlier this year he put her front and centre…kept his mouth shut for most of it

purple10111h ago

Perhaps they think they can sweep this one under the rug, gamers will forget about it,

We will not

They made a good game and you put the whole studio in the bin, this couldn’t be clearer, ms don’t care, everyone suspected it, but now we KNOW it

Amplitude10h ago(Edited 10h ago)

She's kinda got the verbal communication of 3-years-ago Biden trying to say something he knows nothing about.
What she meant to say is: "We wasted our budget for the next couple years buying Call of Duty, and we're moving all our chips to that one series"

It's starting to seem quite obvious that XBox is going to be shutting down most of their studios or selling them off, then focusing on some sort of PC/Console hybrid OS for the next XBox where they can collect royalties Valve style.

esherwood8h ago

To be fair I don’t think there is a good answer, I’d rather her been honest but that probably would have pissed more people of then the word salad route.

Silly Mammo6h ago

Amp- Do you ever get tired of trying to make everything political?

1Victor6h ago

@amp please leave your political red ruby sleepers at the door this is a gaming site or go back to truthfoxnewsmax to comment over there.
BACK ON TRACK
It’s obvious that Microsoft is moving on the money now direction guided by their investors watching all the failures from the 3rd quarter of the 360 gen to this generation I wouldn’t be surprised if they have a plan to replace Phil with Bobby as he proved for years he kept making money for activision.

shinoff21833h ago

Bobby jeez that would be an interesting turn of events and they'd certainly go 3rd party

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Square Is Shifting Strategy To Aggressively Pursue Multiplat Releases,Focus On Quality Over Quantity

Square Enix is shifting its strategy to aggressively pursue multiplatform releases and focus on quality over quantity.

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CantThinkOfAUsername18h ago

Yup, it's official. FFXVI and FFVII Rebirth didn't sell as much as they expected.

gold_drake17h ago

read the report, where exactly does it say what u just said ? lol

TheEroica3h ago

Denial isn't just a river in Egypt for some gamers.... 🤣

Barlos16h ago

It's your interpretation. That doesn't make it 'official'.

CantThinkOfAUsername8h ago

- 1% increase in net sales compared to a year with Forspoken and Octopath Traveller II, which didn't sell more than 3 millions combined (and I'm being generous).

- A 38.3% decrease in operating income despite the release of 'High-Definition' titles namely FFXVI, FF Pixels Remaster, Dragon Quest Monsters, and FFVII Rebirth.

- Aggressive multiplatform strategy one year after saying that exclusivity with PlayStation was mutually desired.

Sure, it's all in my head.

Sonic188112h ago(Edited 12h ago)

Probably for PC and the upcoming Nintendo Switch 2. Square Enix games doesn't sell to well on Xbox

Extermin8or3_11h ago

Nothing sells well on Xbox that's precisely Microsoft's problem

The3faces11h ago

Apparently they don't sell well on PlayStation either.

Lightning7710h ago

Square named Drops Xbox as part of their multiplatform approach in their quarterly reports.

Like it matters MS will probably find away to close them down to.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

I can see them going for PS5/Switch/PC for the most part, it'll mostly likely be the Switch 2 by the time their next game enters development, which is probably a good thing since the Switch is struggling with 3rd party games. If they're hurting for money/sales, I don't see them bothering with Xbox, that's just wasted time/money for them.

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DarXyde12h ago

I mean, maybe? They'll want as much as possible and I figure they could have been hoping for greater impact on PlayStation, but that's good reason to reflect and realize the resources and development cycle of these games aren't very sustainable. The solution is to make more affordable games with shorter dev cycles, then once in a while bring out the big guns.

I think Final Fantasy VII Re make and Rebirth would do really well if it was multiplatform. Specifically, if Nintendo gets their hardware up to snuff, and the rumors are promising. I don't really have much faith in its performance on Xbox, but Nintendo gamers really commit to buying their games. At one point, Breath of the Wild for Switch outsold the Switch itself.

Granted, Zelda always solos everything except GTA, but Nintendo folk are avid Final Fantasy fans. I think it would do exceptionally. Nintendo just needs to make porting easy and inexpensive and they'll get more games.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

I don't think the exclusivity hurts them as badly as they think, I think it's a range of factors, like the quality of the games, high sales expectations, ESG/DEI, censorship, development costs/time... I also suspect that Square-Enix is extremely inefficient with their resources, they struggled/avoided towns in the FF13 trilogy, and FF14 was mostly wilderness with little to do apart from derp about in the wild (they also avoid towns and making a lot of characters there too). But FF14 also went through development hell, I think Square-Enix just needs to overall how they do everything, because the way they manage that studio just isn't working.

Christopher10h ago

The two most profitable games for them didn't sell as much as expected. Yes. Make it make sense.

MrCrimson7h ago

I interpret it as - they want to be multiplatform, as they will sell more copies.

EternalTitan6h ago

16 isnt even a JRPG let alone a final fantasy game.
So glad that it bombed.

itsmebryan3h ago

Square finally realized what Sony figured out recently, their installed base is not enough. We are going to see a lot less exclusives from everyone moving forward.

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CrashMania18h ago(Edited 18h ago)

Hopefully the next Nintendo system isn't a potato and it can contribute to FF sales in future as well, in addition to PC releases. If this ensures the long term health for SE and franchises than like FF and KH then I'm all for it.

NotoriousWhiz17h ago

Adding Nintendo and PC customers is the best way to increase sales and long term success. Not going to get that from Xbox.

shinoff218312h ago

Hopefully square brings all the lose switch exclusives over to.

Hofstaderman17h ago

Will there be a XBOX for Square to release games on? Or a MS Games service?

thesoftware73015h ago

Hof,

You must not have heard they are launching new hardware and have already committed to a Next-Gen Xbox.

But, for some reason, I think you already knew that and wanted to spin a silly narrative; besides, why wouldn't they release games on the SX/SS? You do know these consoles will still be here, right?

Hofstaderman14h ago(Edited 14h ago)

Optics. They have a STATED plan to do so. Thats not commitment. The shareholders and board are calling the shots now. Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already. Investment in hardware, R and D and marketing is how much again? That cost with the history of their hardware performance....at most maybe a handheld. What I am certain of XBOX is finished, the writing has been on the wall before the studio closures. Its MS Games and they are not hardware. They are software because MS is a software company. Expect them to be folded in the Surface team.

DarXyde12h ago

*hardware

I believe they committed to hardware.

I hate to nitpick, but that's kind of the company they are. You have to.

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Michiel19896h ago

@hofstaderman the board and shareholders have always called the shots or had a huge impact on decisions.

Xbox finished lmao, the writing has been on the wall? mate they just spend 70 BILLION dollars, and you see the writing is on the wall that they're done. 0 idea what you're talking about. They grafiti'd on the wall and you still can't see it.

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Aloymetal13h ago

No to both, not worth the effort, money and time on an already dying brand.

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thesoftware73013h ago

"They have a STATED plan to do so. That's not commitment."

Huh? What are you talking about? They announced they would be unveiling new Hardware this holiday season; how else are they supposed to commit to it?

" Lets see if they have the appetite for hardware because they are owed 80 Billion Dollars already"

What a silly statement, you think this deal was approved so they could make 80 billion in less than a year? This is a long-term commitment, a future-proofing of profit.

"What I am certain of XBOX is finished,"

No, you are not certain of this lol; as you stated, if they make even a Handheld in the form of a Steam-Deck that can dock to a TV/monitor, wouldn't that be just changing the form factor but still XBOX?

Closing these studios has really got you guys delusional; that is what happens in companies, in a changing market: you acquire, and you trim; like it or not, that is the way things are done. Lets look.

Where is the new Psygnosis with a new wipeout?
What happened to Japan Studio? Pixl Opus? London Studio?
Where is Zipper Interactive?

I can list more, but you see, closing devs doesn't mean your company is finished, especially when you have like 30+ dev teams.

Extermin8or3_11h ago

They won't be unveiling the hardware this holiday season it will be like the series x and s they got a tease at the game awards 2018. But no details until year of their release in 2020 lol

Relientk7717h ago

Please tell me the Dragon Quest III HD-2D Remake is still coming. I feel like I've been waiting forever for that game.

gold_drake12h ago

i think the juggernauts kingdom hearts (disney provides the money for that one) final fantasy and dragon quest are fine, the rest not as much

Michiel19896h ago

I'm kinda worried about the future of DQ though, Toriyama and the composer both passed away. Huge blow to the franchise.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

@Michiel1989,
Akira Toriyama had an understudy though, he emulates his style, so maybe he'll do the art for Dragon Quest games, I would love to see Nobue Uematsu do music for the series though, that could be fun if they could convince him.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

I'll be so p*ssed if that doesn't go ahead, also, where's DQ12 at? They've been silent on that for so long, and it was announced years ago.

@gold_Drake,
I'm pretty sure they can siphon some profit from A Realm Reborn to keep FF and Dragon Quest going too. I think the company would have gone bankrupt if it wasn't for that cash cow.

Charal16h ago(Edited 16h ago)

Another sign that dedicated consoles market is in trouble, while PC seems more and more attractive to big publishers.

Having a good gaming PC and a PS5 myself, given current trend form both Sony and MS I am less and less playing on PS5, waiting for exclusives to release on PC, so I understand the logic behind the new strategy.

anast16h ago

Post those numbers. Then your comment might make sense.

thesoftware73015h ago(Edited 15h ago)

Ants,

I get that we don't know exactly without numbers, but come on, man, we can clearly see what's happening.

The console market has not grown much, the highest-selling console in history is still the PS2. You can play the " prove it" game all you want, but Sony's more aggressive PC push, SE completely rebooting their company/business, after being mainly exclusive to one console and showing a sizeable profit loss is telling.

PC is a high seller, and your doubtful PS5 dominant stance does not change the clear writing on the wall, straight from Sony's mouth, that they need to be, and will be more aggressive in the very lucrative PC market.

So, in other words, PC market is indeed looking more and more attractive to Pubs.

anast14h ago

@730

Numbers?

I'm willing to bet the farm that ¨PC gamers are not the dominate number compared to console, but I don't know because I don't have numbers. However, the price point of entry can allow us to infer what I had just stated.

anast9h ago

I don't click on links on forums. Tell me why that .com source is legit.

Tacoboto7h ago

What an ironic thing to say on a link-agreggate site like N4G. Explains your comment history perfectly.

Michiel19896h ago

asks for numbers. receives numbers and then continues to say I don't wanna click a website (because it might shatter my illusion)

anast4h ago(Edited 4h ago)

@All the people with that good 'ol folk wisdom

It's ironic how I clearly asked for the site and people still can't even answer this simple question.

Tell me how many people click on random links on forums?

Tell me the site and I will look. I don't mind being wrong and I'm barely intelligent enough to change my mind with something substantial.

All the numbers I have seen is that PC doesn't even come close console gaming in revenue, and nothing touches mobile gaming. More people touching something doesn't mean anything. It just means more people own PC for work and touch Steam every now and again, those numbers mean even less.

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Babadook73h ago

From what I can ascertain PC is a smaller market than PS. There are occasionally times when PC looks to be stronger but overall it's still behind.

FinalFantasyFanatic1h ago

PC also has a lot more competition, especially when people can easily buy and play older games from 20 or so years ago on it.

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