If Exclusives Matter: Own a Ps3 and Xbox 360

From Product Reviews:
"The topic of Exclusive Games is one that many gamers have different opinions on, but if exclusives really matter and you have the money, then why not own an Xbox 360 and Sony PS3..."

[MS Bribing]

MS Bribes most of their exclusives

[chasuk08]

True but at the end of the day they now have them, and in order to play them you need a 360.

I really want fable 2 and gears 2, but 360 isnt so cheap for me, once you include gold membership and a wireless adapter, plus the 2 games, its already up to £400, you can get a ps3 and 5 games for that.

[mikeslemonade]

That isn't a reason to own both systems if your on a tight budget. There are less exclusives now for this generation than last generation, so if anything you should only own a (PS3 or 360)+ Wii. And the 360 has one first party developer which is Rare so going forward the PS3 has more guranteed exclusives.

[Emmo]

@chasuk08

Now that is not true is it.

If you only want to play gears 2 and fable 2 you could play them for as little as £170 if you buy an Arcade plus the two games.

If you wanted to buy an Elite wireless adaptor and the two games you can currently get them for about £300

Not everyone wants a wireless adaptor, you may want to play the game offline, or like me, just run a cable to your modem.

Back to the article, I would own both machines, but there have not been enough PS3 exclusives to make it worth buying both. I have always owned all machines that our out, except this time around.

I am greatfull that MS have managed to get more games to go multiplatform, they have saved me £300+ on buying a PS3.

[Final_Rpg]

@emmo, he's just stating the fact that the PS3 is a lot better value. Even though some of it may not be necessary, the fact that it has it all included for the price its at is pretty outstanding. People are going to complain next generation when they get jack for their money and have to buy a ton of accessories. I call them hypocrites.

[Emmo]

@ Final RPG

It is only value if you want a Blu Ray player. If it was such great value it would have finished 360 off by now. It certainly is not great value as a games machine.

[Final_Rpg]

^^
Dude, half the general public wouldn't be able to recognize value if it hit them in the face. They don't know the difference between bluray and DVD, they don't realize what a good deal they are getting. I bet they buy into either console only because of word of mouth and know little about the console themselves. Only those that are serious about gaming can recognize the pro's and con's of the consoles. General public just buy whatever console is the cheapest/nicest looking/most popular. If they understood the value of the ps3 and the hidden costs of the 360 I guarantee anything the console war would be a very different story.

[OmegaKulu]

I do agree with final_rpg
value is a very technical thing, the general public just don't have much of an idea about them.
For example, monster cables, a $100+ 3ft cable that do the same job as a $20 cable would do, but u still see people buying them regardless.

In terms of hardware, PS3 have much better value.
Software, 360 is currently leading, but the feature is unknown, since pretty much all 3rd party will go multi(specially with the crap econ we have atm) 1st and 2nd party will likely be the key difference between the two.

[Tacki]

@ Emmo
I believe chasuk08 is stating what HE would need to spend, and I can only assume he's done some research for himself and knows what he wants/needs. I myself couldn't miss playing Gears of War 2 online! But you're both right in your own ways.

@ Final_Rpg
The PS3 is a great value when you look at all the features it has right out of the box... but value is also relative to the user and it's important to remember that. Some may not see any value in having a blueray player or a browser and others may not see the value in the Xbox Live service. It's about what certain features mean to you. I can understand where both sides come from and I'm not saying that one is superior to another... just that it depends heavily on a consumers interests, budget, and/or needs.

Speaking on this article though... exclusives are exactly the reason I own all three of the next-gen consoles. I do not want to miss out on anything and my choices when it comes to what system to buy multiplats for varies from game to game. For example, I preordered Dead Space for the Xbox 360 because I wished to have the Ultra Limited Edition that is not offered for the PS3. On the other hand I've preordered Fallout 3 for the PS3, despite the exclusive DLC that the 360 will receive. Why? For one thing I would likely not bother with the extra content (especially if it's not free) and well, I just choose to play certain games on certain consoles. Sometimes there's very little reason behind my choice. I just go with what I feel like.

If you can afford both (or all three) consoles I think that's wonderful. Then you can enjoy all that gaming has to offer... but it really comes down to an individuals taste. Some don't care for the PS3 exclusives and some don't care enough for the 360's exclusives. That's all good and fine... and I completely understand. As a multi-console owner though I really would like to see more respect shown for the games that each system has to offer. Afterall... putting down another's game library doesn't really makes yours any better. It does nothing to enhance your experience. But hate breeds hate. Once one person fires the other side is almost sure to fire back. It's a nasty cycle if you ask me.

[juuken]

Why must people keep saying that the PS3 is ONLY a bluray player?

You know, it's actually an entertainment system you know. It plays games, music, dvds, bluray, can serve as a backup if your computer crashes, can stream certain programs...it has a lot of features most systems don't have.

[nice_cuppa]

ps3 has 3 flavours all with hard drive and blu-ray.

xbox360 has 3 flavours
1 with no hard drive but a memory card.
# good for playing on and offline games.
good for price. (cheapest)
not for downloading anthing more than arcade
games.
2 with 60gb hard drive
# good for on and offline games.
good for price (cheap)
good for downloading for all but hardcore 60gb+
users.
3 with 120gb hard drive
# good for on and offline games.
ok for price (not so cheap)
120gb good for hardcore users.

so if say i wanted to play fable 2 or gears 2 or banjo kazooie etc i can pay as little as $200 + $50 = $250
this would allow you to play the game you wanted go online (silver is free gold is $49.99 but alot of games come with a few free months and so do all new consoles)

it will also give you access to a huge library of games.

ps3 has no option to use a memory card instead of a harddrive (cheaper)
ps3 has no option to not have blu-ray movie playback (cheaper)
ps3 has no option to lose the wireless internet (cheaper)
# having no wireless internet does not stop online play and a hard connection is more reliable.

if i wanted to play lbp what is the least amount of money (r.r.p not deals as you can save money on 360 in deals to)i would need to pay ?

blu-ray movies are amazing but what if i dont want it ?

value is only real if there is a choice !

[pavarotti]

you see that? you mention anything no matter how slight, and the ps3 fanboys are lining-up. you've just got to let them have these sony-vs-microsoft threads....otherwise you'll be bubbleless in an hour.

they desparately hope they can put somebody off of buying a 360 if they have enough fud threads on n4g. still it's all good very soon. with all the gamez that are gonna pazown111 for the ps triple coming soon, i'm expecting the net to be empty of sony fanboys because they are gonna be to busy playing said games.

one can only hope.

[Emmo]

My point being that if Sony had kept backwards compatiblity and had a cheaper model without wi-fi and Blu Ray I would have bought it.

Now I do not see the point on Spending £300+ to play a couple of exclusives.

I understand what Sony were doing releasing a all singing all dancing machine, the problem is they took choice away and released a machine at £400+ this gave the 360 a lead and now they are having to battle to get on parity (sales wise)

So value is in the eye of the beholder.

[Final_Rpg]

@pavarotti, stating of facts does not make someone a fanboy. You're trying to tell me that when you add the parts of a 360 up and a PS3 you don't mathematically find that you get more for what you pay with the PS3 you're just lying to yourself.

I'm not telling anyone not to buy a 360, heck I recommend it if they prefer the games(and everything else it offers). They aren't losing a ridiculous amount of product with that choice. I just don't like people saying how cheap the 360 is comparatively to the ps3 because I believe the console comes incomplete. Don't try and tell me people don't need to go and purchase anything extra for a 360 experience, at least anyone that wants to consider them self someone that is quite into video gaming. You can't use half of the features that make the 360 so great unless you go out and buy these accessories that don't come with 360. And whilst the ps3 also doesn't come with everything you need it comes with a hell of a lot more not even offered on the 360 side (in terms of hardware).

If you want a 360, and you buy one, you're not making a bad choice. At that same time in terms of what you get in the box PS3 is giving you a sizable amount more. Though MOST of it is available for purchase later for 360 but it ends up pushing the price past the PS3. Which, to be honest, if everyone was completely educated on this it would probably make a sizable difference to sales. And I know that won't ever happen, but I don't mind. The fact is that I know, and I'm able to choose the console that I believe to have greater worth because of this knowledge. Also, I'm not saying that the PS3 is better value overall, money isn't the only way to value things.

For me at least, I saw the PS3 offered more value. Whether you agree or disagree makes no difference. Some would see more value in a post-it note than a PS3 or a 360. It just proves money isn't the only factor when determining the worth of a product.

[anh_duong]

i would never own both consoles.. i own all three instead!

[Emmo]

@Final RPG

You make some good points, but I would like to point out that you can get all the features you want from the 360 for £170 (60g Pro Pack- £145 in some stores) + live subscription (if you want to play online), which you can get for £26. (you can hard wire your 360 to the internet)

I am certainly not saying don't buy a PS3. If you like PS3s exclusive and want a Blu Ray player, buy it.

If the PS3 exclusives don't float your boat and you are not bothered by Blu Ray the 360 has a larger catalouge of games and more 90+ scoring games.

Both are good machines and I do think that for many people it will come down to price, if upfront price is not an issue the 360 would be selling more than it is.

[mettalhead70]

They don't bribe for exclusives, they bribe for an exclusive to go multiplatform.(final fantasy 13-last minute decision)Every company buys I.P's.

[razer]

No.

Because I dont want any PS3 exclusives.

[n4gzz]

So, you mean to say that you didn't want GTA4, Devil may cry 4 and bunch of others including Final Fantasy 13 ? You surely wanted those that's why they are not exclusive anymore.

[slave2Dcontroller]

You see... er hmmmm. He's a cellphone gamer DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWG LOLZ

[Why o why]

where were they in 08. please list

[juuken]

Yes, because you hate the PS3.
We know that already.
I love how you don't state *why* you wouldn't want PS3 exclusives.

[CloudsEnd]

Perfect Solution

[Mr PS3]

But not the Xbox one's !!
Because they are Crap

[Shaka2K6]

All the exlcusive games have flopped so hard not a single game has yet to score AAA, and the only games that do score AAA on the xbug 3rd60 arent even exclusive just PC ports of generic shooters.

xbug 3rd60 = useless.

Sony PS3, Sony PSP and PC = perfect combination.

oh and third party exclusives are nonexisting on the xbug 3rd60 they eventually drop best on PS3 just look at Oblivion and Bioshock ect.

[richie007bond]

Have you always been this stupid or is this just a recent thing,but judging by your comment i suspect you've been an imbecile all your life...IDIOT!!!!!

[slave2Dcontroller]

Theres just high quality games that are only aviailible to respective consoles and I wont sit here and say that I dont want to play Gears Of War or Infinite Undiscovery just because I own a PS3 and not a 360. Boi, I'll tell ya.. I'd be a lying sonnovab!tch

[KARMA2009]

Everyone is saying that the PS3 is too expensive,but think about this good.
Xbox 360 core at $299 (includes a controller and cables,HDMI cable,free 1 month live,etc)im not including the 360 arcade at $199 because it dosen't have a hard drive at a price from $99 and up...
Now for the PS3 at $399 (includes a 80 gig Hard drive,Free online account,free online play,cables but no HDMI cables,bluetooth,controller needs no battery,and you can used any sata lap top Hard Drive,great firmware updates,soon it will have all PS2 games playable after this 2.5 update,the best part,its also a BLU Ray Player)
Cutting it down just pretend your buying a BLU Ray player for $299
And add $100 more for the next gen console aka PS3
you get $399 for a PS3...... Which is actually $100 plus adding BLU Ray player which sells for $299...
People should think about this....

Dark Knight BLU Ray is coming soon and if your looking for a BLU Ray player you should buy a PS3...Home is coming this November which will change all PS3 owners.....

Happy Holidays...

[BlackRaven85]

But you can get 20GB for 20 bucks from Microsoft, so, you should include the Arcade now. Unless you think twenty dollars is too pricey. Or get a 512mb memory for free from Microsoft if you don't have that.

[Harry Pothead]

I'll do research and find out and promote my new movie Harry Pothead And The Ass Of Fire in stores Oct. 27 exclusively on Blu-Ray disc.

Ok i got them

The 360 has
Mass Effect
Gears Of War 2
Fable 2
Forza 2
Halo 3(Recon might be good)
Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2

the PS3 has
LittleBigPlanet
WipEout HD
Resistance 2
Metal Gear Solid 4
Killzone 2
Warhawk
Gran Turismo 5
Ratchet & Clank Future
Uncharted:Drake's Fortune
Socom:Confrontation
MotorStorm 2
Super Stardust HD
White Knight Chronicles

[Emmo]

just a few 360 titles missed out on your list

Project Gotham 4
Banjo N&B
Left 4 Dead
Braid
Scene it 1&2
Crackdown
Lips
VP
Too Human
IU.

Yes the PS3 has some good games, but so does the 360

[DARK WITNESS]

depends on what you call good.

I only bought my ps3 for MGS 4 and killzone 2.... i had tekken 6 on the list, but now thats gone multi.

on the flip side i am not that interested in the halo expansion, and i didn't enjoy forza. talking about exclusives, you forgot PGR3/4.

[SL1M DADDY]

Aren't some of those titles on the PC? From where I am from, if they are on any other platform then they are not all that exclusive. Just saying...

[kratos-i-am]

Scene it 1&2
Crackdown
Lips
VP
Too Human
IU.
Project Gotham 4
Banjo N&B

Eh... Emmo do you really think these games are good in your list?

[Emmo]

I loved Crackdown, Viva Pinata, Scene it, Projet Gotham 3&4 and IU, Banjo, VP TiP and Lips, Scene it BOS are all on my to get list.

So yes I do think these are good games.

[Pennywise]

Emmo, Go ahead and add every single sony game that MS made those clones from than. K thx.

[Harry Pothead]

you slow... no1 is gonna pick up project gotham racing over forza... and i didn't even do all exclusive i just did the ones that are gonna be good u say scene it i say buzz quiz tv see. but both suck.

[Emmo]

Metacritic scores

80% Gran Turismo
82% Motostorm

So on my list apart from IU and Too Human all those games are better than these to titles, not my opinion. Metacritic scores.

In fact 40 xbox 360 exclusive score 80% or higher and 24 PS3 games that score 80% or higher.

Add to that the fact that most multiplatform games are better on the 360, that is my choice of gaming consoles. I am not going to buy a PS3 just for WKC and LBP, two very good game no doubt.

[sinncross]

yes because we're all rich enough to own both a PS3 and 360

[P4KY B]

I don't have enough time to enjoy my 360 properly. So having a PS3 would be a total waste for me.

[Why o why]

MS wants sonys identity. Everything sony had last gen MS wants this gen. It is the console that is lacking in identity. Its fast becoming the mr me too of this gen with only gears, halo and a couple others + unreal engine leaving a lasting legacy. There is becoming less reason to own both consoles nowadays. Its like owning an amiga and an atari st, too similar. Games that were born on the ps brand are now on the 360 but gamers remember which came where first. What is MS bringing to the table in terms of identity except the concept of 'we want that too' or 'we'll pay for timed'

Hats off their making their console owners happy and ultimately thats the point but by doing so and culling their own internal studios they have lost their identity and the means to create its own. Sony are doing sony whereas MS are doing what they do in all their industries

Im lost on MS's strategy for the future and the financial implications of buying everything. Yep sony are also guilty of these practices especially in the ps 1 days but it seems they'd learnt from that and shifted focus to a model that still had 3rd party support whilst acquiring and developing 1st/2nd party relationships which could differentiate them from their closest competitors in various ways

[ceedubya9]

Right now, having an identity isn't as important as being a profitable business. They try to do that by making their console affordable to the mass market, and giving its consumers the games that they know they want to play.

This is the position they are in. They are still mostly the new kid on the block. Nintendo and Sony have been in this for a long time now. They can afford to take more chances as they have a highly recognizeable brand. Just now, the Xbox brand is starting to have some type of meaning in the gaming world. When you go up against juggernauts like Nintendo and Sony, what are you supposed to do differently here?

The Sony brand was carried by 3rd parties for years, with only a handful of meaningful 1st party games. This is no different from the 360, which is only the second generation console of the brand. By the next gen, its possible that Micro will offer a much larger 1st party offering as by then they may have a much more prominant role in the gaming industry.

[Str8laced]

So we should show nintendo love, cause alot of games came from them that the playstation bought rights too have exclusive to PS1 and PS2. But alot of sony fanboys get on MS for buying exclusive it is insane or paying money to get multi platform.

[Why o why]

Some may dislike nintendo but they have their identity. Theres no confusion, they had their 1st party games to do that. Sony took from them and made some of their own whilst doing it. Ms can say 'me too' but that makes the line between the 2 hd consoles more blurred. Where's their direction. MS vp's seldom have anything positive to say about sony yet they want all of sony's past. Just admit that they look up to what sony/nintendo have done (just once) it may go a long way to calming the fanboy flames 'buut NOOOOOOOOO' thats not MS's way now is it, lets be honest.

When there are no 3rd party exclusives left then its obviously going to be down to true exclusives and at the moment theres only one of the hd consoles that are pushing 1st, 2nd party games.

Many people state that 1st/2nd part games are not that important when they see how much the term exclusive means nowadays. You have to strike a balance and I feel MS's is to focused on dlc timed and me too titles. Sony who will get 95% of these games any chose to put their money into its own studios because they are not having to catch up to anybody but themselves as the ps2 HAD the library grow from. They have learnt off nintendos past mistakes and successes and have adapted their own model to have longer legs this gen and build on their own past mistakes and successes . You know you've not got much when dlc makes top billing and fanboys scream about it. "No games" was the quote and now look.

[BlackRaven85]

ceedubya9, why is that such a bad thing? We have three very good consoles out there in the market and two of them are pushing for HD quality gaming. Sony President said they like Microsoft and the 360, even to go as far to mention he preferred Avatars over the Mii's, and that they were doing really good for themselves. He was being humble, why can't you do that? Instead you and everyone else thinks Sony is bitter, Microsoft is greedy, Nintendo=worthless. Why can't you all enjoy and respect them for what they offer to the table.

[ceedubya9]

I'm not sure what you're getting at as far as my post is concerned. Perhaps you misunderstood me somehow? My response was to Why o Why post about Micro not having an identity. I have no problems with them, Sony, or Nintendo. I actually love them all and respect what each of them do and give credit where credit is due.

What I said, in a nutshell, is that Microsoft is up against big competion and are still learning and growing in the console gaming business. They have to do whatever they can to be a major competitor and profitable, even if that means being comparable to the competition.

Nowhere in my post did I even come close to saying anything about Sony being bitter, Micro being greedy, or Nintendo being worthless. Perhaps you got me confused with someone else? If not, perhaps you should read it again.

[Why o why]

How can sony or MS have their own version of Smash Brothers Brawl without entities that are exclusive to their consoles. Yeah it took nintendo 50 million years to get there but every gen had something new for them in terms of innovation, identity or both. What do you stand for as a console maker. Just stay profitable or to build a brand and an identity whilst being profitable.

To be fair ceedubya9 MS were up against it this gen after killing of its own failure and being an outsider to the console world. Its just the name calling and bragging which is annoying me about MS the most. Collectively they can never just give credit where its due and love to scream from the hills about BS whilst keeping super quite about their issues. Some people call sony arrogant and ill accept that but at least that was born out of successes and they seldom ever talk trash about their competitors (i think thats just a east vs west cultural thing). Their identity to me right now is xbl, master chief, mr me too and RROD. Ill also say that imo they have moved away from the 1st person shooter stigma but that was ironically by getting games that were on sony's/nintendos platform first or copying them (again, i know sony did this too)

Tell me what you think MS's legacy will be for the 360.

[ceedubya9]

The biggest thing about Microsoft is Xbox Live. And it seems like that will be what their identity will be for quite some time, at least for the remainder of this gen. Whether that is enough to separate them from the rest of the pack is debatable, but it is the defining factor of the xbox and 360 experience.

Besides that, I think they are still working to find that identity. It seems as though they are finding ways to recreate the success of the others (Sony and Nintendo) by grabbing sure hits and sequels to games that people love and say "hey, we have those games here too." I think that they just really want to get the Xbox brand out there right now, and then focus more on 1st party efforts. There aren't too many risks and new ideas involved in a process such as this, but its a safe way to stay in the game when you consider the competition.

They are still putting out 1st party games and exclusives, just not as many and with fewer studios to develop them. I think that in time we will see more. I think that right now they want to take the safe road, and try to pry gamers away from the Sony and Nintendo camps.

Its probably not the most favorable way of doing things to some people, but you have to admit that despite all the controversy that they have been through this gen (RROD, closing/letting studios go), they are doing something right with their strategy, as they are still in this thing.

[SL1M DADDY]

Do not regret buying them all for one second. Time is not an issue cuase there is always one game out there that is better for me than all the others and owning all three consoles, I don't have to be tied to games that I have to settle for. Just because I have three consoles doesn't mean I game more, it just means I have more options to pick from so I can make the most of the time I game.

[Swamp@ss]

Yea it's funny how this guy just assumes that everyone can afford both. Gee, why not everyone just get all 3 consoles, a 60 inch t.v. and a computer that can handle Crysis. What a groundbreaking idea he' propositioning.

There are factors such as affordability and brand loyalty. Not to mention exclusives just become multiplatform when you own both consoles anyway. From this logic owning both would make exclusives obsolete, yet he's speaking to the man who values exclusivity. I will facepalm his logic.

[pornflakes]

Its really crazy that every game with no trophy support is always crap for PS3 owners?. What is it guys? This does not changes the fact that your system works with 50%.

2nd. MS dropped the price from the 360 in 3 years from 400 USD to 200 USD. SOny dropped the price in 12 months from 600 USD to 400 USD.. hmm.. so who is the loser?

A Playstation Brand never needed such a huge price drop like the PS3. And NEVER a Playstation brand sold ww so bad like the PS3! AND DONT care about 360 sales.. NEVER a Playstation brand sold lesse than 20k/ week in Japan.

[kratos-i-am]

There are only a handful of exclusives atm on both consoles so atm I wouldn't consider buying both.

[Si-Pie]

I think both consoles have their strengths and at the moments I only have a Wii and 360 but fully intend to get a PS3 too. PS3 is good value for £299 and a 360 premium is like £169 and if you want to play online its £24.99 for 13 month xbox live subscription, £34.99 for a wireless bridge. Of course the article does state if you can afford both and have the time then why not have both.

[ReBurn]

This is exactly why I bought all three consoles. I like being able to play what I want to. The hardcore console fanboys wouldn't have anything to argue over if they owned them all. I've had great experiences on all three platforms.

I'm sure the haters on all sides will disagree. That's fine. But if you really want to play the best games the only way to do it is to own multiple platforms. No single console is the best. They all have their strengths and they all have AAA titles.

[christian hour]

I shouldve read this before typing my a bajillion word opus below :P

Sadly fanboys are all little kids who cant afford thier own consoles, so thier stuck with the one thier mommys get them for christmas, so theres no getting rid of them until they grow up and get some form of income... but even then the next generation of fanboys will have taken thier place.

Although when I was younger I dont recall been a fanboy. I remember having a sega, but so badly wanting to have a nintendo and even a super nintendo. We used to trade consoles with friends, like my sega and all my sega tapes, for your super nintendo and your games :P or even swapping a sega for a regular nes, I didn't care I just wanted to play all the good games. And thats exactly how I am now. I just want to play the good games.

I think the internet has given rise to the fanboy... I hate you for that internet.

[Why o why]

i hear ya but i think its now not needed to have both nextgen consoles because baring a few games they're both the same with the same games. Having money to buy all isnt necessarily the best move for everybody. Its going to boil down to exclusives and preference for many many potential buyers.

[I_LOVE_MYSELF]

Own a PS3, Wii and a PC... then you get ps3 exclusives, wii exclusives and 360 / PC exclusives...

[Gantrfaxx]

I do own both consoles but i don't really have the time to play anything on my X360. Ps3 keeps me occupied all the time.
Maybe i'll play Fable 2, i must find some time for it. Other X360 exclusives don't attract me too much, Alan Wake maybe, although it's not a X360 exclusive.

[christian hour]

haha we're like exact opposites. I have both but no time for my ps3 (bar when lbp beta was out). HIGH FIVE!

[christian hour]

I gotta say I own both consoles. I never really liked the original xbox. And I freakin loved my ps2.

This generation though, Its the 360 that gets most my love (except for the past few days were the LBP beta got all my love :P )

I honestly don't know why the playstation has fallen out with me. I still have happy memories of my ps2. The games I've bought with my ps3 in the year I've had it.

Ninja Gaiden(came with console)
Formula 1(came with console)
Motorstorm
Drakes Fortune
Metal gear Solid 4
Resistance fall of man

The only games I hvent traded in are mgs4 and drakes fortune... but only because a friend has borrowed drakes fortune (it was my christmas present from my brother) :P And well, I've never ever traded in any of my metal gear games so why start now?

I guess what I'm getting at is, there have been no games bar mgs4 and drakes fortune to impress me on the ps3 yet. Of course the ps3 does have some neat features, but nothing all that good. I've used it to watch blu rays, which I freaking LOVE, the online, while free, it just isn't as robust, reliable, or as functional as xbox live. Sure PSN is a free service, but it doesnt hold up to xbl (sorry guys)

I've played heavenly sword, lair, and a few others that just didnt impress. And when it comes to getting a multi-platform release I usually get it on the 360... The usual reasons people normally give, achievements, xbl etc. Plus sometimes while playing games I like to sync up to my pc or laptop or mp3 player and just chill out to my music, sometimes I even make playlists on my pc for a game, and play to that.

I find it a struggle when it comes to music on the ps3. Its something that hasnt been sorted out yet, only some titles support the in game music feature recently implemented... and I own none of them, acually I have no idea which games do. Elefunk was one wasnt it? or eden or something.

Custom soundtracks were introduced last gen by microsoft, now I'm not complaining the ps3 should have had these on release day too, the one thing that annoys me is, When I start up my ps3 and go to music, and I pick what I want to play, I cant just then navigate around the ps3, checking friends, going online to the ps store etc, Once I leave the music player, thats it. Music stops. That really shouldn't have been the case. I dunno why sony went with that.

I guess, I got a 360 before a ps3, and maybe I as just dissapointed with my ps3 going over and alot of things I'd taken for granted on the 360 were just absent on the ps3.

In all seriousness the only thing I see my ps3 been used for, is little big planet, and blu rays. And then what happens when lbp gets old (in like 5 years :P ). I guess I have a nice big black Blu Ray player, and then a 360, which I've ahd since launch day, never had any problems, and a library of about 135(edit:missed the one) games I've loved playing, etc.

But yeah, own both consoles, that way you can enjoy little big planet, and also enjoy the 360 and all it has to offer. Money should not come in to it. Ever. If you're working, and you're making money then it shouldnt be a problem, because youll make that money back. WHat it comes down to is, if you're a gamer, and you need to play all the good games. You'll want a ps3, an xbox360, and a wii. Because when it comes down to thier core purpose, GAMES, they both have a nice selection of exclusives, as well as multiplatform titles which you can purchase for wahtever console depending on your personal preference.

End the console war, stop been stupid fanboy ass clowns, and appreciate the games, dont hate a big upcoming game just because its not on a console you don't own. Why not think, wow that game looks really good, I gotta go around to my friends house who owns a 360 and check it out if he gets it... etc.

Bring on the disagrees :) fan boys are scared of people who don't recognise the console war and own several different consoles :P And if you're gonna disagree. At least say why.

[titntin]

Well each to their own of course.

I too have owned all the machines since release (all the portables too for that matter).

Last year I played more 360 games, as it undisputedly had its best year of quality games.

This year I'm playing more PS3 titles than 360, and I've far preferred that machines exclusives. I also prefer the controller and I find it a superiorr media hub with functionality I use. The browser is used in my house, and I find the functionality of the media serving over wifi to be much better - so I acess all my photos all my Music and all my movies via PS3) too, so it gets used a lot more than the 360.
Custom soundtracks? I despise them and I've never used them on 360, and won't on Ps3 either.
I'm afraid my Wii gets dusty..

But with great tiles coming on all formats, any real gamer needs both the 360 and PS3 to experience the best games. If I had to only keep one, I know which one I'd keep. But I don't, and I'll enjoy GOW2 & Fable2 AS WELL as Resistance 2 and LBP. :)

[FantasyStar]

It's hard not to debate, or end this console war when statements like that are made. Someone with a different opinion will come out and say "you're wrong" - like me.

I own both consoles and both consoles get equal playing time. I owned a 360 first, then traded it for a PS3, then got a 360 again for PS360, then traded the 360 for a Wii for PSWii, then traded back for PS360.

I don't let the games come to me, but rather I go searching for games for my consoles and take full advantage of the features each give me. I mainly use my PS3 as my media center and I play games on it too. I play games on my 360 too. Granted I like the 360 a tad better because custom-soundtracks are better implemented. It's standard and that's why I like it. With Ps3, I gotta pick and choose the games that support it. That Sony has to fix with their developers. Why put in features when only 5% of them will support it. Might as well not advertise Custom Soundtracks at all. PS3's Custom Soundtracks is like the Xbox's back, but we're far beyond that because the 360 offers something better.

I like both consoles pretty well and I'm excited for the Fall when L4D, GeoW2, R2, and LBP are released. I'm going to be broke this Fall. But even before, I can guarantee you that both my consoles got equal lovin. I'm a dual-console lovin guy. I know how to treat em :)
I buy the multi-plat and exclusive games for 360 with some exceptions, and all PS3 exclusives for my shiny beast. No matter what I'm always getting the best out of gaming. I know people can't afford both consoles and I respect that very well. Gaming nowadays has become a expensive hobby. However, if you're hardcore, you won't think twice.

[militant07]

for that reasson im getting ps3 december early and reset from all that things.

[Mr Marbles]

360 is the better value for gaming due to the fact that the console can be had for very little cash, plus it has far more exclusives right now (not promised at some point in this decade down the road)and many of the exclusives are less than the original $60.00 they were at release. In addition to that, 95% of the multiplatform games play better on 360, so you get more for your money.

PS3 is only a value if you want bluray, and most people dont even have HDTVs.

Value is in the eye of the beholder, a breast pump at 80% off the market price is still not a good value to me, I don't need a breast pump, same with all the crap Sony piled into the PS3, its not a value to a person who does not want the features.

[BlackRaven85]

You have your opinion, and I respect that. This is exactly how DVD got it's time to shine, and it'll happen for Blu-Ray when it's time truly comes. PS2 gave the shine for the DVD, and now, Sony is doing the same thing with PS3. However, it's just taking a little more time than it did with DVD.

[Mr Marbles]

Im sure Bluray will be fine, but the fact still remains that 360 is the better value for gaming. Even when bluray is the huge success that you all claim it will become, the PS3 will still just be a great bluray player, and the 360 will still be a great gaming platform.

[Enate]

The three console thing if that works for you fine for me it doesn't.

The Wii I tried it in Florida at a family reunion an I tried for 7 days to really like it but I just didn't get it. Some of my cousins had them an loved them but when it comes to the gamer in the family they all know who to bow down to. An I'm happy they found something that worked for them but I still love the aw struck look in there eyes when i put in MGS4 not in HD btw gotta love that.

The 360 not bad really, main thing I don't like about it is its top games are shooters that just isn't for me. Also the bulk of the community there pushes that an I always hear what do you mean you don't like Halo or Gears Of War how can you not. That annoys me so bad people telling me I can't dislike a game because it sold X amount of copies. Anyway though another thing is the rocky feel of the 360 something that isn't a major deciding factor but something I notice when I touch move or hold the system. Something else that bothers me is the whole sold separately thing I know its the thing a lot of 360 owners seem to like but I need all that stuff an it adds up fast. One thing being the wireless, I know some of you don't mind running a 40 foot drop cord to your room from the modem or router but I have to have my wireless. Also as gamer who wants the full potential out of his system the Elite is the only way to go for me.

On to the other games, well the ones that I would consider anyway. We already went over the fact that I don't do the shooter thing. Now Microsoft has been buying rpgs left and right jrpgs to be exact an thats all well an good. Although unlike some of you on the system I'm not new or casual when it comes to rpg gaming. Some would probable even say I'm unreasonable, comparing today's rpgs with the likes of Xenogears, Suikoden II and FFVIII. Now with that in mind as a non owner of a 360 seeing quite a few of these coming out exclusively for that system sparked a little interest. Although like I said before I'm not easy an I'm hardest on my favorite genre. Tales of Vesperia, never liked the tales series an all the praise it was receiving had to do with it keeping the same formula with what some call beautiful graphics. So of course based on that Tales came up for me at least as nothing more then a pass.

Lost Odyssey a new ip coming out the gate with mixed reviews I had to look into it a bit further. Yet once again overall verdict was just another rpg with maybe a story slightly better then the average. Infinite Undiscovery, one of the more anticipated rpgs for the 360 being that Microsoft seemed to have personally had it developed for the 360. Although once the game hit the market an review boards it came out hurt with almost all but the biggest Infinite Undiscovery lovers saying it was nothing new, a solid rpg at best. Then that brings us to Mass Effect, pretty good overall although not exclusive in my book as it is on the PC. Which was said by quite a few people to be even better then the 360 version even by quite a few who had played the 360 version first. Now off the rpgs for the last one an on to a game that was carried through its life on the Playstation brand, Ace Combat. Now when this was first announced 360 exclusive I liked to had went BANKAI(bankai is a form of powering up kinda like Goku from DBZ going Super Sayian for those that don't know) an go on a rampage from anger. Although after the games release an going to play it at a friends house I couldn't help but laugh at him for buying the pack with the flight stick. After playing it an trying to honestly get into it as I had become quite the fan of Ace Combat through years past. It was just truly no better than AC4 an in fact AC4 was way better so no spilled milk there.

Now on to the PS3 the console I personally own(not to be confused with the thought of I haven't or can't play the other consoles if I wish it is merely my choice) an have grown to love. I was one of the fools running around like crazy trying to get a pre order for one of these bad boys for the likes of actually wanting one an not to sell on ebay. An got a speeding ticket trying to do so, but I got in there just in time either way. So with that in mind an what I said above obviously I got the 60gb. Now the hardware itself the day I got it I felt like I was carrying the football out of EB games. We went to the store about 7 deep to pick this thing up as people had been getting jumped from the store for them an we weren't taking any chance. Hell even the clerk bagged it up in six bags before he gave it to me which was pretty funny because that day at that time EB happened to be packed an everyone was trying to see what I was buying. Needless to say I felt like the don walking out of the story as we took my friends black tinted out Darango to go get it.

Once back at home we rushed inside to open this thing an all we honestly saw was love at first sight. Then after wards getting through Motor Storm an not being much of a shooter fan resistance didn't peak my interest until later which by then R2 was all the rage. I played a few good titles here an there nothing major just yet because like I said I'm an rpg fan. Now during this time I was really trying to stay focused on school so the lack of games for me anyway in the start wasn't that bad, an I have a psp which is amazing for rpgs. Anyway though by the time i actually got back in gear an still no rpgs in sight(at this time the 360 didn't have them either an like I said the ones it got didn't impress me either way) I started to check out some other things as I do at least try to mess with a few games in each area. Now I'm just gonna cut straight to it as this is running amazingly long an I'll be shocked if anyone actually gets this far. Heavenly Sword was a good experience but one I slaughtered in no time an only rented thank fully as it takes more than that to make me want to replay a game. Uncharted Drakes Fortune through me for a loop as I didn't expect like it as much as I did. An although not on a HD t.v. it was still amazing to say the least but once again for me not one I would buy. An in between all this I played a few psn titles that turned out to be quite fun.

Also not to mention the flood of multi plat games that both PS3 an 360 have to offer kept me quite busy till present day. I had to mention the multi platforms as a lot of people seem to throw them by the way side as if they don't matter when they are some of the best games I have played. One I will mention as it falls under rpg that quite the lot of you seemed to had liked was Oblivion talk about people loving to throw stones on that one. I honestly couldn't get into it an I hated it I rented it an I tried to see what all the hype was about but sadly my little brother played ended up playing it more than me. That is just one of those titles that gets on my nerves from all sides because its one of those titles where people are like wtf do you mean you didn't like it. An as I said before I can't stand that.

Now bringing us to present day its an exciting time for PS3 or 360 gamers as we have the flood of games coming like the ark was coming going to be needed again. Multi Plats are now shining more than ever an some long awaited updates an titles are about to hit us like a freight train. Of course besides all the multi goodness the big talk an main point of this topic is exclusives. Mainly LBP, R2, GOW2 and Fable, now to me all I really see is LBP, R2 and Fable. Like I said before gears just in not my thing an if its yours then oh happy day for you. Now LBP is something I don't think anyone saw coming not even me but after playing the beta I have no doubt my pre order was right. Resistance 2 one of the main reasons this interest me is because like I said the original caught my eye late in its day. An this one is looking bigger in every since of the word an better than the last an I'm actually considering a rent. An coming from me an official FPS hater if you will that is saying a lot.

Now I know I'm on the PS3 of sorts but you can kinda call it a blend of PS3/ and or present day worthyness. Now on to Fable 2 as a rpg fan it has me quite intrigued as to weather or not I will like it as I wasn't to keen on the first one(ducks for stones). Although as my friend is an avid Fable fan I will go to his house an give it a try an see how it goes until then I just won't know. Now overall given what I have stated its Obvious the PS3 is still the best choice for me based on my needs an future wants. As for you, it pretty much comes down to what you like an if you think having all three or one or two will make you happy. For me at least for now this one will do.

An one more thing I know I didn't talk about the onlines as they both are pretty much the same in all honesty currently. I can speak for myself when I say I don't nore have I ever lagged on PSN an the overall experience can only get better with both I would assume but for me that will be home. Now if you made it this for congrats an I hope you enjoyed it an understand this is my sole opinion an I speak for myself an no one else thank you.

Also one more quick thing, why does everyone seem to keep forgetting that PS3 games are on Blue Ray as well not just the movies, just wondering about that. Ok I'm done now really I am.

[pangitkqb]

and it is the best thing possible. I get all the Wii, PS3, and 360 exclusives and the option of choosing which version of multi-format releases to purchase.

If you can afford it, owning all 3 is the way to go.
Look at it this way: This winter i will be playing:

Fallout 3 (on 360)
Resistance 2
Gears 2
LBP
Fable 2
Motorstorm 2
Banjoe Kazooie
Left 4 Dead
Killzone 2 (in February)

Because of this, stupid fanboy rants really do seem ridiculous to me. All the systems have their strenghts (although the Wii's line up this year is the worst i have ever seen) and weaknesses, and by owning one of each a gamer can have the full experience.

Game on.

[Enate]

The ultimate point is that works for you an whoever else is happy with that. Though just like my mom doesn't need a gaming rig not everyone needs all three is all I'm saying.

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

Get this right people who own 2 systems are!
Spoiled losers, rich video game kids that are babysitted by video games and lack attention from Parents and are babied and pathetic Geek freaks,with no social skillz.

Or are complete losers who can actually play game all day and get fat and do fine off of minimum wage and have 3 kids and have a wasted life!!
Am I making things clear here???

this goes for video game reviewers as well!!!

Moderation!!
I have a PS3 and cant even put in 1 hours most of the day.
But I do love watching Bluray and HD!

[DNAgent]

Own a PS3 & Wii. There is no point in getting a 360 if you have a PC because the 360 games are better on the PC (though the games on 360 aren't really good to begin with but they suck less on PC cause of all the added content).

[Eiffel]

Your logic sir has flaws.

about a small percent of 360 games go onto the PC like 10% of %100 and all video games no matter what system are better on the PC that is just fact

[dboyxz]

Sorry if this is off topic, but I noticed certain people complaining about Sony adding Bluray to PS3.Yes it does add to the cost a bit. But there is one thing everyone seems to forget to mention when arguing about bluray. STORAGE CAPACITY for games. Yes DVD is standard now. but with the size of games ever increasing, DVD is not enough anymore, especially with the HD graphics. Look at Lost Oddessey. 4 DVD discs. I personally don't like doing that, plus you increase chances of scratching or loosing discs. Or really compress the crap out of game to fit DVD, and risk reducing quality of game. With Sony putting bluray standard, it gives 50GB+ available to developer. Whatever the developer does with it is up to them. It allows the option to really add more content with more headroom. I am no Sony Fan boy (I am proud owner of all 3 consoles), but I should mention this angle to the bluray arguement.

[Strikepackage Bravo]

now I felt the same way as you do when I was planning on getting a PS3, then I started doing research, bluray has still not done a dam thing for gaming, PS3 exclusives on bluray do not have better graphics because of it, or more content, at least no content worth mentioning. Sure long cutt scenes and in game movies ala MGS4 but who really wnats that stuff in the middle of their game.

And finally, I would rather swap disks than wait for load times ala MGS4 and mandatory installs because bluray is still too slow for gaming consoles.

I just dont think bluray is needed in gaming yet, maybe next gen but its still to new a format. I have recently decided to get a 360 and wait for the price to fall on PS3 because I just can't justify paying more for a PS3 when 360 does everything better for less money, with more games. And I am a huge playstation fanboy!!! Sony screwed up this gen, period, I am one of the few PS fans real enough to admit that.

[dboyxz]

I may not agree with all you said, but I am also no fanboy and understand others may not share my point of view of things. And yes Sony could have handled things better (limiting the RAM in system for example. They should have put 1GB and split 512/512.)

[Strikepackage Bravo]

all this means is that the PS4 will be close to perfection,Sony will not make the same mistakes twice.

[2 cents]

I own both systems, there are good games on both consoles but the ps3 has given me more playing time this year due to variation of exclusives on the ps3 and also due to the fact that i`m not much of a FPS or TPS player. But i still buy all multi platforms for the x360 cos i think even now LIVE has the upper hand over PSN

[Project]

Bottom Line the PS3 is a better deal. Nothing to argue. Which system you want is up to you. Some things are facts others are opinions. This is a fact.

[picker332]

If Exclusives Matter then go with 360,i'm a ps3fan but with all the promising exclusives sony has promised(wich was a big lie)i thing you should go with 360,hell even Mgs4 coming to 360.

PS3 a big flop when it comes to exclusives!!!

[PirateThom]

I'm yet to see any proof that MGS4 is coming to 360.

If you were a PS3 fan and played the game, you'd know why it's pretty much impossible for that game to be ported without major changes (content, not technical) and then the cost/profit benefit comes into play.