Switch Bayonetta 2 is a turbo-charged Wii U port

John and Rich sit down to talk Bayonetta 2 on Switch. There are some minor visual improvements, but really, it's all about the performance - and it's all good news.

[MoveTheGlow]

Yes! Exactly what they should have done - centered around FPS and better on Portable due to the native 720p. I can't wait to have this on the go.

[Einhander1971]

Amazing stuff :)

[corroios]

Turbo charged 720p zero AA? Got a little better frames at 2018 even docked a game from 2014. The free pass that nintendo gets is amazing. Every one else would get destroyed.

[SR388]

Yeah coz the system is not just raw power lol but hey games on the others I've played ain't so great and they run in full sooo lol

[Weeblordbad]

It's called expectations, they were never touting the Switch as the most powerful anything.

[Knushwood Butt]

Yeah, I was expecting to pay top dollar for underpowered hardware.

[kevnb]

You do understand the switch is a handheld right?

[Question_Mark]

People conveniently forget that fact when criticizing the Switch's power. They can't stand it that the Switch is extremely powerful for what it is.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Watch out you're only supposed to say that in defense of the Nintendo switch.

But when it comes time to talk about sales Suddenly It's A "dedicated Home console" and not a handheld. 😎

[TekoIie]

@EDMIX

"Watch out you're only supposed to say that in defense of the Nintendo switch."

Actually its something people just dont agree on. I say its a handheld because the dock can be completely ignored and the product still functions. Nintendo has said that it is a home console first and foremost which is what tends to be why we consider it a home console.

[_-EDMIX-_]

@Tek well you say it's a handheld because of the logic of it being a portable device.

What Nintendo was calling it is simply based on their own marketing schemes if Nintendo called that a taco are we to believe that this is edible? Lol

[quent]

Just like ND and Sony ?

[JunMei]

OMG! A Handheld is only marginally better than it's last generation console counterpart! /s

[GamingSinceForever]

A handheld with a 1080p screen, therefore shoild be able to port a last gen game at 1080p.

It’s disappointing to say the least, but keep on making excuses. They will only respond when the fans let them know.

[Question_Mark]

@GamingSinceForever

Why do you keep spouting incorrect information? The Switch's screen is only 720p.

[_-EDMIX-_]

Well this handheld technically by the specs is more powerful than the Wii U.

At the end of the day regardless it's specs are greater than that of the previous system so it should be kind of expected.

If any anything I question the team that's transferring the game over before the actual systems specs.

[sprinterboy]

Plus the fps in the df yt video clearly shows heavy dips in fps

[_-EDMIX-_]

Well the game was also developed for the Wii U which was more powerful than the PlayStation 3 and 360.

So I believe the difficulty they might be having to get it to run those frames might simply because the game is much more demanding than any other previous last-generation game you might see running on Playstation 3 or 360.

So I don't know if it should be held to that type of standard

Because the Wii U was more powerful than PlayStation 3 and 360.

The switch is weaker than the PlayStation 4 and Xbox One, so I would say take that into consideration.

[DarXyde]

You don't think From Software and Ueda get free passes?

[StormLegend]

Still not worth $60

[Nintentional]

But if the same exact game was available on the PS4, “OMG ITz AAMAZIIMG!! Soneee 4LIFE!!”

[chobit_A5HL3Y]

@nintentional are you high? nintendo gets so many free passes with all the ports they get and no one says jack about it. nintendo fanboys sucking each other off at the sight of skyrim; a re-release of a re-release, from a game that’s 6 years old. jesus christ. people were giving sony a bad time when they did tlou remaster ffs.

[kevnb]

@chobit You can’t understand the appeal of a portable version of Skyrim? You are pretty simple aren’t you?

[hulk_bash1987]

Two of the best action games to come out in the last decade for $60? Yes please.

[The 10th Rider]

I mean, both games in one package and the original had issues on PS3/Xbox 360 and Bayonetta 2 on the Wii U dipped down to like 40FPS. They're also commonly considered two of the best action games of the past decade. I'd say it's definitely worth $60 for the two of them.

[Zeldafan64]

It's only $30 for each game. The only way you would have to pay $60 is if you wanted it physically and then it comes with the first game, albeit digital download.

[GamingSinceForever]

If it’s still at 720p what’s the purpose of this port? This better not be a $60 game.

[Segata]

2 games for 60 bucks.

[GamingSinceForever]

Crash Bandicoot had 3 games for $30 and they had better visuals and performance.

Nintendo is trippin.

[The 10th Rider]

@GamingSinceForever,

Umm, N. Sane Trilogy was $39.99 and it ran at half the frame rate . . . so no, performance wasn't better. You can't even get your own comparison right and then you say Nintendo is trippin, lol.

[hulk_bash1987]

Firstly, it was $40 on release. And as a game, Bayonetta 1 and 2 were more complex games than Crash was. Lets not kid ourselves here.

[hulk_bash1987]

I was referring to Crash For PS4 being $40 on release. Not Bayonetta. It was in reference to you stating it was $30 for 3 games.

[Weeblordbad]

I'll take Bayonetta over crash any day, but hey different strokes for different folks man. The Wii U sold about as well as a dumpster fire, not a lot of people enjoyed some of the GOOD games on the Wii U, I don't see an issue with Nintendo pushing out ports of the titles that deserved more than they got with the Wii U.

Also just saying, the Crash games are running on a PS4/Pro two consoles that are indisputably more powerful than the Switch. Granted Crash runs at 30fps vs 60fps for Bayonetta 2 you also have to look at the size and scale of things, crash more often than not is a corridor.

[GamingSinceForever]

My point is the effort put into the games and the retail price.

[kevnb]

@gamingSinceForever most people buy games because they think they are good, not for perceived developer effort.

[GamingSinceForever]

@The 10th Rider.....I didn’t say Crash is a better game than Bayonetta. I’m saying it’s a better upgrade which holds more value.

720p just won’t cut it for me, so it is now a no go. But if you like it then that works for me.

[The 10th Rider]

I didn't say either was a better game either. You claimed that Crash Bandicoot performs better, but it runs at half the framerate of Bayonetta, so what you claimed is false. You also claimed that the N. Sane trilogy was $30, which is also false.

[munchmiller]

As well as the Switch is for a handheld, I'm honestly baffled and amused by the fact that people are actually content with, and praising, 720 resolution.

I mean.... this isn't 2005 anymore. Shouldn't you be demanding better modern day support? The Switch would look like a mosaic in motion on a 4K TV, and those are starting to be the primary TV sold everywhere.

In any case, this port sounds like a lot of marketing, and hardly any improvement. I like Bayonetta as much as the next guy, but I call it as I see it. Underwhelming.

[PhantomTommy]

The 60fps mode in Nioh is set to 720p -- that was last year not 2005. Yes, that's on the base €400 model, I'm not buying another PS4. Game was blurry as hell but I kept playing it for some strange reason -- it was like it was "fun" or something. I dunno, it looked like crap so it was obviously terrible and I'm just remembering it wrong.

Bayonetta 2 is an amazing game, I don't care how it looks.

[kevnb]

I feel like there is one troll with multiple accounts on here. Were you playing games like bayonetta on a handheld in 2005? Not to mention native 720p games at solid 60fps weren’t really a thing on console until this gen, games like call of duty were well below native 720p last gen.

[The 10th Rider]

In 2005 no console games were running in 720p, lol.

[kevnb]

well the 360 did launch in 2005, I think it had at least a few native 720p games at launch. It’s crazy to think of how much of a beast the 360 was in 2005, too bad most launch consoles overheated.

[Belinker300]

The Original Xbox One played games at 900p or less on average...back up

[quent]

And how would you know what a 4K game on a console looks like ?

[Belinker300]

You're absolutely right,would look Soo much better on the Vita

[kevnb]

I don’t understand these guys sometimes, a variable frame rate with lows in the 40s doesn’t feel bad unless there is frame pacing issues or stutter cause by vsync. They act as if the wii u version was garbage.

[corroios]

Im getting tons o personal messages full of hate because i just told a fact. For a portable the game is good, but for everybody that says that the switch is also a home console just no.

720p with no AA its just bad for a old game and at full price????

The switch is amazing because of it portability, but in terms of home console is many generation behind the rest.

720p docked at 2018 its not good no matter how much spin they try.

[Question_Mark]

A lot of the "facts" you're talking about are only opinions. Your opinions aren't any more important or valid than anyone else's.

[corroios]

Agree, but personal attacks? this isnt war, its just opinion on a game that went from one generation to another with no evolution on the graphics, rez, AA, textures and at full price. Ok, its got better frames.

I think its bad when studios make cash grabers like this. No matter if its on Nintendo, Sony or Microsoft consoles. This is nothing. Its the same game, but the CPU of the switch is faster or better then the last gen console...

I just want to see the reviews....

[FernDiggidy]

Can not wait to play Bayo while taking shit!