Demon's Souls PS3 vs. PC 4K Comparison Is Truly Eye Opening

Demon's Souls started the whole craze about the Souls series and it was only available as a PS3 exclusive until last year.

[LoveSpuds]

What an absolutely pointless comparison!!!

[BVFTW]

Why? I don't see it as a way to shame the original version, I see it as a way to show how much the game might improve by modern efforts.

I hope this inspire the publisher (Sony) to greenlight a remastered PS4 version as the game still has a following, I would love to play it again on my PS4 as my PS3 died last year the online features of DeS will probably be shut down this year.

If I have to play the game without it's online features, it'll probably be best for me to play it emulated than buying a new system to play my copy, nevertheless, if the game is re-released, I'll support it again.

[Cyro]

Exactly. Why are some people so defensive? The comparison isn't to downplay the PS3.

[BVFTW]

Some people need to feel their choices and opinions validated, that's why those kind of people hate comparisons and that's how the console wars begin, but luckily, there are people that just want to talk about the games, it’s cool how some people can take a game and put it in a different light, is not always better, but it's still cool, modding and emulation can open so much doors and, at the end, they can also have a positive impact in the industry. I'm sure that Nintendo saw what some people where doing with "dolphin" and windwaker, emulating the game beyond its limits (resolution and stuff) that it showed how the art direction was way beyond the console hardware, and with the Wii U in the horizon, Aonuma and his team could've said: We can do better! Let's try what we can do with these console trying to make this game better! And now we have an awesome (proper) remaster of a beutiful game that you could argu that it didn't need one to begin with, but now it's definetly better.

[KaaF]

The hell are you talking about? If there is a new way to play a game, of course I'll want to know how it compares to the original. Not all comparisons are about fanboy morons muscle flexing contest.

[Retard]

Pointless, but fun. Miss that game so much, so much ragequit

[Damthatsword]

your name fits if u think this is pointless.

[Cyro]

It's not really pointless because Demon's Souls was never playable on PC until now through emulation.

[LoveSpuds]

To all you people that think I am upset about a PS3 game being slighted in some way, I couldn't care in the slightest about the PS3 version of a game looking worse, that's the whole point of my original comment, its utterly pointless.

If the articles author simply intended to demonstrate how good the PC version looks then, as a PC gamer myself, I can get on board with that had he written such a piece. Instead, he offers a comparison to a version of the game that looked rough even by the standards of the day, I mean, what the he'll does that prove exactly?

At the risk of repeating myself, I couldn't care less about defending the PS3 because there is nothing to defend, if people are surprised by the level of improvements that a current day PC offers over a 10+ year old console then they really must be morons.

[leahcim]

Holly crap!!! DS REMASTER IMMEDIATELLY SONY!!
The father of Souls deserves this and more.

[hulk_bash1987]

Remaster/reboot and full blown sequel after. That would be awesome

[kevnb]

just make the game work on ps4 and render it at a higher resolution, I'm tired of them insulting our intelligence by calling ports "remasters". If a small team can make it work this good on pc there is no reason sony cant do it perfectly on ps4.

[k2d]

Resident Evil RE is what I consider a true remake.

Shadow of the Colussus remake I prefer to think of as a true remaster (they aren't changing much of the gameplay).

The rest I like to think of as ports or re-release. It's good business I guess.

[kevnb]

i would prefer if we didn't call video games "remasters" at all, especially if they are just the same exact game rendered at higher resolution. Only reason why they can even get away with it on consoles is because most console users have no idea how graphics are rendered since they've never had much for graphical options.

[Mr_Writer85]

@Kevnb

If the PC they have it running on is equal or less powerful than a PS4 then you have a point.

But we both know it's not. So stop being a snowflake.

[kevnb]

the cpu on the pc is much more powerful, but everyone knows there is much much less cpu overhead on the consoles. This is how Microsoft can emulate 360 games so well and at higher frame rates on the xbox one using a cpu much less powerful than current intel pc offerings. furthermore, there are no driver optimizations for this emulator at all like there would be for games... so the optimization edge for consoles becomes even wider than it would be in traditional games. Look at how well the psp can do ps1 games, do you think a pc with psp specs can emulate psp games that well?

[kevnb]

Sony is just too anti consumer to do it, its the same reason why they turned off ps2 emulation on the slim ps3s that can be re enabled using custom firmware.

[Mr_Writer85]

So why has no one got PS3 games running on PS4?

If it can be done as you claim then surely someone would of done so by now?

[LoveSpuds]

@kevnb
Actually squire, its perfectly possible to remaster a game, its merely a matter of interpretation of the word. I would suggest that a remaster involving remaking the game using a modern engine, in this instance, the Dark Souls 3 engine for example, would be a fine remaster indeed.

Crash Bandicoot and the upcoming Shadow of the Colossus are perfect examples of remasters where Sony did deliver for the gamer and did not, as you claim, upscaling the resolution because console gamers are too stupid to know better.

[LoveSpuds]

Agreed, a remaster using the DS3 engine would be incredible I think.

[Mr_Writer85]

@lovespuds

Stop posting the truth. It doesn't suite his snowflake agenda.

[kevnb]

and this is what publishers would sell to you as a "remaster".

[Mr_Writer85]

If it's not a remaster what is it?

[OoglyBoogly]

I guess what I don't get is this...why did the PS3 have such high quality assets (like the textures that look amazing in 4K) when the resolution the game ran at wouldn't even allow them to be seen?

It's like, why didn't they lower texture resolution to free up resources and help performance, especially with the lower amounts of RAM in these last-gen systems?

It's like running a game with 4K textures in 720p...you won't notice the difference so why take the performance hit?

[JOHN_DOH]

It looks like the same textures. The PS3 just has bad aliasing. Maybe they use some kind of aa on PS3 that blurs the screen. The textures are probably lower than 720p also

[BVFTW]

Last gen with 1 Gig of Ram?! That would've been cool as hell! Well, at least I don't have to wonder about that scenario as the Wii U is kind of a 7th gen console with some vitamins, a good example of what the twins could've done with some extra RAM.

[MrVux000]

"Last gen with 1 Gig of Ram?!"

It had 512 MBs of RAM* (256 MBs of VRAM and 256 MBs of RAM)

Quite impressive indeed.

[BVFTW]

They definitely could've done wonders with that extra RAM, I think that lack of memory was the main reason that the ICO team couldn't deliver the last guardian on the PS3, they had the computational power they needed but with the physics, A.I calculations and the visuals they were aiming at lead them to hit a brick wall. But I guess that price for memory was a concern at the early days of the consoles, especially for PS3 as it had half XDR memory and half DDR.

[kevnb]

the media and pr has completely mislead people on how graphics work. We arent dealing with giant sprites. You could have actual 4k textures, but its not needed. Look up texel density to get a vague idea.

[TheDreamCorridor]

Can’t even tell the difference.

[kevnb]

you are blind then, at the very least you should be able to tell that there is much less shimmer.

[starchild]

If that's true you're very imperceptive. The lower amounts of aliasing, greater clarity and sharper textures are obvious.

[TheDreamCorridor]

Apparently not.

[Father__Merrin]

"was only available as a PS3 exclusive until last year."

What rubbish its still ps3 only, Emulation isn't the same as a full on release. Sounds like someone's trying to justify themselfs with thief platform of choice

[OoglyBoogly]

Here we go...

[kevnb]

so much salt

[starchild]

You have serious issues. That much hate towards the PC is unhealthy and doesn't make sense. It seems you never miss an opportunity to bash PC gaming. You sound very bitter and jealous.

[PhantomS42]

Like everyone else, I think this game desperately needs a remaster for PS4. Best and hardest Souls game to date.

[joab777]

If From remasters this they would make a killing. Or if they remastered this and DS and put them together, omg! C'mon From!!!

[mrdeli]

Demon's Souls - what a game!

[Darkwatchman]

4k emulation, but video is only uploaded at 1440p....nice

[gammaray13]

PS3 still looks better than PC

[GamingSinceForever]

Prime example that graphics and resolution are teo different things. The same outdated graphics with a bit more shine is all I see here.

[JOHN_DOH]

Its the same graphics in higher resolution. Unless you are talking about art style, resolution is in the graphics category

[starchild]

Resolution is ONE of the things that dictates how good a game looks, along with things like texture quality, shadow quality, draw distance, lighting techniques, anti-aliasing, post process effects, etc.

[CBaoth]

Resolution is one of the things that dictate how good a game looks? Are you $#^&%&* stupid? Go play Homefront Revolution in 4K then and type that crap again. Shame on you. What's next? Atari 2600 games look phenomenal rendered in 8K?

[starchild]

Huh? Yes, any game will look better rendered at 4k than at a lower resolution, just like a game with high resolution shadows will look better than the same game with low resolution shadows. Resolution absolutely IS one of the elements that contributes to how good a game looks. Nobody said it was the only thing that matters, so your comment is stupid and pointless.

[AKS]

That video only went up to 1440p for me.

[michellelynn0976]

Actually BoTW had great combat. Nier is basically Bayo, but still great.

[AKS]

I think you are replying to the wrong thread.

[FernDiggidy]

Yes the image is crisper......but still doesn't look nearly as good as modern day games.

Graphics > Resolution.

[iofhua]

It was barely noticeable.

If you look closely, the character model is a little sharper. I noticed 0 different in the environment.

They had to zoom in to the character later in the video to highlight the difference.

That said, I'm ecstatic that this came to PC. But I don't see it on Steam or anywhere else? Is this a bootleg copy or what?

[tontontam0]

SOOOOO??? what are trying to say

are you trying to say that exclusives does not matter because after 8-10 years you'll be able to play it on pc. and you should just wat for that.

[MrVux000]

I don't really see what is up with Pc and console folk in here?

Some say that PS3 exclusive is exclusive no more, and yet you require the usage of *PS3 emulator*, which is almost no different than using a service like PS Now (if you have decent internet connection ofc).

Some say that PC and PS3 version look the same, which is obviously salt talking and not the rational part of the human brain. Maybe in core texture-assets, but resolutions in the PC version is much crisper/clearer. Does it make a huge difference? No at all. But do they look the same? Also, not at all.

The only thing i can agree with some people, is the concern over people who use ROM-s for the games they have never bought, and those who claim that they have those mentioned games have absolutely no oversight from the game developers/publishers that made these games. In other words it is still a two-edged sword for developers (since even tho they are assured there are indeed some people who bought their products, there is also a fair share of those that didn't, which in the end is an act of piracy which should not be supported).

The idea of emulation, is still good and id like to believe there will be some sort of control in the future, to protect the publishers/game developers that made these games possible.

[doos_vd_kak]

"only available as a PS3 exclusive until last year."

That's quite a huge statement considering it's still a 100% PS3 exclusive.

[Grimwood]

Does 4k make animations look good? Why the fuck people don't get what "good graphics" mean? "UUUh, high rez reoslution, 156 frames, ooomgg!!11"

[MrVux000]

I get what you are saying, and i agree with the sentiment.

But there always will be people that suffer from Resolution/FPS OCD.

[BioShockGX]

The pc version looks like 10% better

[windblowsagain]

Looks sweet. Now if that had a texture pack as others have said then it would look awesome.

I just want bloodborne2.

I think the Original should have been released on PC as well.

[Malice-Flare]

why is the thumbnail from Dark Souls? i don't remember fighting Artorias in Demon's Souls...

no much of an improvement, you can only do so much by introducing better AA without redoing the textures to fit the resolutions. plus, no framerate comparison...

[Hakoom]

the ps3 version isnt that bad.. it even looks beter than few games released these years

[nucky64]

this just reminds me of how much I want a demon souls game on ps4.