Chalgyr's Game Room writes:
For all of the success of KOEI TECMO and Team NINJA's Nioh it seems too often that it is brushed aside as "Dark Souls with Samurai" which is a criminal understatement given how good Nioh is. Though well-received on PlayStation 4 when it launched in early 2017, as the year wore on it was increasingly more difficult to hear about the beloved grimdark action-RPG set in an alternate of the late Sengoku Period in Japan (1460's to about 1610) and features stunning level design, weapon and armor art straight out of the Azuchi-Momoyama period. Rounding out the trifecta of excellence is a wonderful story following William, a conscripted pirate on the hunt for Amrita, a golden stone that is found primarily in Japan, and is a dark yet strangely serene experience. A shame that only eight months or so past the PlayStation 4 release that the PC port is at times, marred by technical issues.
VGChartz's Issa Maki: "As I close the book on Elden Ring for the second time, I look back at the path that brings us to this moment. What Demon's Souls began has inspired an entire genre in itself, spawning numerous imitators trying to replicate the formula's magic with varying degrees of success: Lords of the Fallen, Mortal Shell, Immortal Unchained, The Surge, even The Legend of Zelda bears signs of how much FromSoftware's DNA has dispersed throughout the video game world.
But of all the descendants that came along, only one possessed the potential to challenge the throne in any meaningful way: the Nioh series. Initially released in 2017 and 2020, Team Ninja's Onimusha/Ninja Gaiden inspired action/RPG drastically improves upon the established paradigm, yet always seems to get swept under the rug and (at best) given little more than token acknowledgment by FromSoftware's fanbase.... so what is it about Nioh that's kept it on the sidelines of popularity?"
Agreed. I'd consider it the best souls clone. It's own take was amazing imo. Can't wait for Wo Long.
Which is why I'm confused when they say why it wasn't more popular. It is the most popular after from software titles.
I think the thing is *the gap* between that and From Software titles though. You'd think it have the same grab as Dark Souls for being one of the best clones.
At least, that's how I interpret the meaning.
@coolbeans
Except it's not a clone. The gameplay mechanics and combat are vastly different. The only similarity is difficulty.
If you play it like a souls game then you die.
I must be alone here but I find that most people don't know how to compare games at all. They said Jedi survivor is sekiro....I mean wtf?! Now this game is supposedly a souls clone....do these people actually play these games?
the game has a horrible inventory and looty system; there is no exploration, lots of levels feel rehashed, and the mission based structure is bad. I enjoyed nioh 2 but the same issues persisted. it really isn't much like souls at all. it's more of a dumbed down ninja gaiden
@Crows90
Fair enough. But I'm just using that term loosely with regards to what's categorized as Soulslikes. I see Nioh listed among them all the time.
Nioh and especially Nioh 2 are the very definition of sleeper titles, the character creator in Nioh 2 alone was well worth it, I feel like Wo Long Fallen Dynasty is going to be very successful though and they'll finally get the recognition they deserve, for their take on the Souls genre.
They did sold millions like 5million back in 2021, they also gave it out to ps+ last year. Wo long feels much faster and fun hopefully it do well since its on both consoles this time.
Fantastic games. Probably too difficult for casuals to enjoy, and the story felt a little cheesy/tacked on. Mechanic-wise they were very deep for a melee action game and the boss fights were intense. Super fun. If you’ve got grit to push through their learning curve I couldn’t recommend them enough.
I have not played NioH 2 yet even though I do have it. I just recently got a PS5 and have upgraded my PS4 version of "The Witcher 3" to the PS5 version (it's free) and that game along with "Horizon Zero Dawn" is taking up hours of my time. I also restarted NioH 1, Dark Souls 2 and 3, Bloodborne and I also have "HZD The Forbidden West" although I don't want to start that untill I have finished HZD. Sigh!
BTW. In NioH if you get the Onmyo Magic "Sloth" it makes the game easier since it actually slows down the enemy for a short period of time. Of course if the enemy is really fast and some are, it is possble to miss with this spell.
Great games but oppressively hard imo. I loved both but could finish neither because eventually hit a wall with a boss
Well...that's likey because 5heyre not exactly souls games. It's heavy on rpg and builds. Having good equipment goes a long way. Much more equipment based than traditional souls.
That’s fair. The last boss I remember attempting was a Snake/ lady in a cave in Nioh 2. I thought I was well geared but for the life of me I couldn’t do it
Yea you do die from 2-3 hits and even one shotted. It's definitely a game that has a big learning curve. Definitely don't play it like souls and go for aggression.
For Nioh 2, Onmyo and Ninja skills are very powerful so always use them even on weak enemies and get those proficiencies up and use them to your advantage.
I highly recommend using Phantom form for its quickness and much easier burst counter.
And ofc, always use ki pulse. Keeping up your ki is very important.
As for Nioh 1...that game was much harder imo lol. I gave up on the game for like a year before finally beating it. Ninja and magic skills are best so I'd put a lot of lv points on those. Do dojos for mastery, do side missions and get those locks for skill points.
I recommend also calling in friendlies to help you out as well. Bosses become pretty easy with them.
With Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty coming soon, it's time to look back at the developer's greatest triumphs...and one oddball favorite.
There is a decent fan base for the Nioh games, but still think they are criminally overlooked and under appreciated.
I just bought the PS5 collection to replay them again with all their DLC, a sweet collection for my games shelf for sure.
Yea, those gardens haven't been plowed in over 10 years now though. Imagine if they cultivated it, let it grow again.
originally it wasn't going to be included because of their take on Samus' character. But the gameplay's actually not bad.
Honestly, I don't know if we can even blame them for that take. Nintendo's Sakamoto was credited as the writer and from what we learned later with the Retro Studios interviews for the Prime series, Nintendo apparently never saw Samus as this stoic badass that most of the west imagined her as. Going as far as describing her as "motherly".
Plus post-apocalyptic management sim Sheltered.
