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Bloodborne 2? Shadows Die Twice Analysis & Breakdown

As we had been expecting, From Software gave us a glimpse of their upcoming title during 2017's Video Game Awards. A short and tantalizing clip revealed nothing but “Shadows die twice.” What does this mean? Could this new game or Bloodborne 2? Or is it something else, like Shadow Tower? In this article we’ll put together everything we know and attempt to solve that puzzle and answer those questions.

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_-EDMIX-_2368d ago

Since I only played some of demon souls and not too much of blood-borne I'm not entirely sure about all the lure that goes into the souls Series so I'm not sure what this reference means.

DreadGara2367d ago

You could have said "First" instead.

cyber_daemonx2367d ago

You have really missed out edmix. Fantastic games tbh.

thatguyhayat2368d ago

I dont think it is. I get a tenchu feeling. Im sure they would announce bloodborne 2 on a Sony related conference

camel_toad2368d ago

Same here. All signs point to Tenchu so far. A new Bloodborne would be awesome but I have missed Tenchu for quite some time and I'd love to see how well it could turn out with them having so much more experience under their belt now.

thatguyhayat2367d ago

Exactly, its time for tenchu to return

nitus102367d ago (Edited 2367d ago )

Tenchu was made by "Acquire Corp" https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... which is a video game developer based in Japan so since the "new game" will be made by "From Software" https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... I very much doubt it will be a "Tenchu" or "Way of the Samurai" sequel, revamp or prequel.

"From Software" are well know for the "Kings Field" series, "Armored Core" series, "Souls" series and Bloodborne. There is another game called "Shadow Tower" https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... which was released back in 1998 for the PSX although from what I can gather the Souls series was much better.

A Bloodborne 2 or (preferably) a new IP based on the Lovecraftian mythos is more probable from the teaser trailer. Unfortunately, all we can do now is wait and savor any "scraps" that are thrown our way. 😎

SaiyanFury2366d ago

@Nitrus,
The original 2 Tenchu games on the original PS were developed by Acquire, yes, but the PS2 games were subsequently developed by K2 as was the one on the Xbox 360 some years back. K2 then was bought by Capcom a few years ago and Tenchu 4 on The Wii and PSP was developed by Acquire but was published by FROM Software. I'm still hoping this is a Tenchu game that is superior to Tenchu 4. As a massive Tenchu fan since the original, I'm hoping this one is better than 4, if that is what it is.

Fextralife2367d ago

Well as we said - it could be any of them. It could also be Kuon (a poor-performing game from long ago) as it matches that setting better than the bloody stuff matches Tenchu.

UltraNova2367d ago

"*Keep in mind that a Dark Souls remaster for the Nintendo Switch may also be in the works and the reason for the partnership!"

It will be a down graded port at best.

Good analysis btw. I'm leaning on Tenchu as well. But my true hope is that its DeS2!

That said, do you guys have any insider info on a Demon's remaster? Or should we consider the recent server shut down as the final nail in the coffin for this series?

PS:loving your guides and work on the Soulsborne series. Keep up the great work, thanks!

Fextralife2367d ago

@ultranova

Thanks for the kind words! And well I can't really comment on insider info or I would not remain an insider long haha.

I do hope a demons remaster or sequel happens. :)

jznrpg2368d ago

Shadow Tower woild be dope , whatever it is I will most likely like it

Fextralife2367d ago

Indeed From seems to be in a really good spot right now

showtimefolks2368d ago

I thought it was bloodborne 2 but I thought that Sony would officials reveal it

StrawberryDiesel4202368d ago

It will be revealed with a gameplay trailer in the not too distant future, guaranteed.

Fextralife2367d ago

The absence of a Sony mention does discount many points from the possibility of Bloodborne. But if From and Sony titles were on that screen, we would all factually know it's Bloodborne 2 so it's possible the omission was on purpose.

StrawberryDiesel4202368d ago (Edited 2368d ago )

I will be surprised if this isn't a Bloodborne 2 teaser. It appears to be some type of trick weapon starting up in the trailer. Just doesn't seem to fit Tenchu. The aesthetic of this trailer screams horror in my opinion which is more in tune with Bloodborne. Add in the amazing sales and critical acclaim the first game received in conjunction with a heavy demand for a sequel...methinks it's a no-brainer. Also...I believe shadows die twice is definitely another Bloodborne reference relating to the theme of dying and its relevance to the game.

_-EDMIX-_2368d ago

Because I only played a little bit of blood-borne I'm not really sure how much of a reference it actually is but I would say anything regarding dying would be Souls reference stuff, so basically could be Dark Souls demon souls or even blood-borne.

Who knows.

Babadook72368d ago

You need to play Bloodborne dude.

_-EDMIX-_2367d ago

@babadook- lol I'm working on it

I'm looking to continue my playthrough after I complete the Yakuza remake.

nitus102367d ago

If you feel you are not that good with Bloodborne it is best to get familiar with all the weapons and pretty much stick to the one you feel comfortable with since you can go a long way into the game using your preferred weapon.

I found the best way to do the above was to choose a weapon then play for about an hour then restart the game and choose a different weapon then again play for an hour. Do this for all weapons then make a choice.

Learning how to parry is a skill which can make battles so much easier. Even using the unusual magic can be very useful in battles and some low-level spells can be a "one hit kill" (Nightmare Frontier) on some creatures that would normally require multiple hits from powerful weapons.

Vanfernal2368d ago

Well, the kanji looking characters plus the Japanese sounding flute give it a distinct eastern feeling. Plus the Tenchu series is pretty intertwined with the theme of shadows. Not to mention after Rikimaru died he came back to life while his "shadow" took on his role while he was gone. The aesthetic just doesn't seem to fit Bloodborne, which had a very particular Victorian setting.

Fextralife2367d ago

Indeed, but one could argue that a prequel set in Asia (where Yamamura, the "old hunter" comes from) is a possibility. That said, it could very well be Kuon (old horror game of From).
It's fun to guess, and they know how we are, so they tease us!

nitus102367d ago

Unless "From Software" is going to team up with "Acquire Corp" https://en.wikipedia.org/wi... then you can forget about a new addition to the "Tenchu" series.

Like it or not the new game will either be Bloodborne 2 or (preferably) a new IP based on the Lovecraftian Mythos.

BTW. Don't get me wrong I love the Bloodborne game but I would much prefer a new IP although what I think is more important is the game being able to run at 60fps.

Fextralife2367d ago

@nitus10
It seems fromsoftware bought the tenchu rights in 2004

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Every PlayStation Studios game available now on Windows PC

Windows Central writes: "Many PlayStation Studios games that are ported to PC get dedicated PS5 DualSense support, which allows users to experience haptic feedback and adaptive trigger support without actually having to own a PS5.

According to Hermen Hulst, head of PlayStation Studios, it's still the company's intent to launch the bigger single-player games on PS5 first, before later bringing the games to PC. This might not be the case for multiplayer games however, which are considered okay to launch simultaneously on console and PC."

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ocelot073d ago

My guess is after god of war. Probably last of us 2 that's a almost 4 year old game now and by the time it's released on pc it will be more than 4 years old or close to 5.

Elda3d ago

Every old Playstation game that is now on PC.

shinoff21833d ago

Right. I definitely see what a headlined from a website named windows central was trying to do though. It's cute little wordplay to help out the green box

Flewid6383h ago(Edited 3h ago)

They are a unique website for sure.

Flewid6383d ago

Are PlayStation games no longer good or worth playing once they are old?

Elda3d ago

I'm guessing my comment went over your head.

Flewid63810h ago

I'm guessing you were never really saying anything that made sense.

Elda10h ago

You're still ranting on an old article. Your comment to me 2 days ago didn't make any sense including this recent one. It's time to move on, get out of your basement & go on about life.

Flewid6383h ago

Ooof, I had no idea you were this down bad. Sorry to hear you hate life.

Ah well....stay salty! 👍

Elda1h ago

"You were this down bad" What does that even mean? LMFAO!! Please learn how to articulate words in sentences or better yet take some English classes.

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XiNatsuDragnel3d ago

Good at least they can sell hardware

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Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie

Former Activision studio Toys for Bob partners with Xbox to publish its first game as an indie. This is something of a homecoming, as Microsoft owns Activision.

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Obscure_Observer4d ago

Very very early in development. Still, fantastic news!

Let´s GO!!!

Lightning774d ago

I guess.

How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )

At least it wouldn't be MS of all ppl destroying them.

MS really should let go Tango go like they did TFB here.

darthv724d ago (Edited 4d ago )

one was under Bethesda (Tango) the other under Activision (TFB). Clearly each one handled the separations of their subordinates differently.

Obscure_Observer4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

"How come they didnt either let them go or sell Tango and others to another publisher? Not saying Ubisoft, EA would be any better. (Capcome would of treated them right )"

Perhaps because Zenimax and ABK handles such matters differently based on their own internal policies as "independent" publishers.

Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future. Which could also be the reason why they ensured an exclusive partnership with TFB and its new game, before anyone else.

Sad and disgusting. But it is what it is.

Lightning773d ago (Edited 3d ago )

"Whoever, chances are it´s simply because MS didn´t wanted Tango or Austin to be acquired by competitors and develop new bangers for them, giving MS a bad rep in a possible future."

MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB.

It's inexcusable, they have options on how to handle studios they don't want anymore with killing jobs. Not just MS but the rest of the industry also.

Sad and disgusting sure how many will get shut down next year or this year even?

I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another.

Obscure_Observer3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

"MS has a bad rep now because those studios are no more. I rather them sell the studio continue to make multiplatform releases, while MS continues to focus on whatever they're doing. If they didn't want Tango around they should separated from them or sell them to, like they did TFB."

Imo, MS separated from TFB because they didn´t had a game associated with Xbox yet, unlike Tango.

"I don't trust MS decisions and motivations at this point. You have to admit they make one dumb move after another."

Fair enough. It was indeed an epic dumb move from them to close Tango.

Still, all to be forgotten, like always have. This is not the first time a big publisher shuts down a beloved and/or successful studio out of nowhere and certainly won´t be the last. Do you remember Lionhead? Do you remember Evolution Studios? Yeah... both were beloved studios and yet, those companies kill those studios in q blink of an eye and got away with it.

anast3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

The studio boss made some money from this transaction. Once the game releases, the studio will get chopped up.

-Foxtrot4d ago

Manages to buy their freedom especially after all the shit Microsoft has been doing with its studios lately

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Goes right back to them as partners.

Okaaaaaay...

darthv724d ago

Id venture a guess that TFB working directly with MS was a better outcome than working through Activision to get to MS.

VersusDMC4d ago

From the article...

"Toys for Bob spun out as an indie back in February after Microsoft instituted sweeping layoffs that impacted 86 employees, which was more than half of the staff"

I doubt those 86 employees enjoyed the Microsoft experience over Activisions.

Inverno4d ago

MS shuts down studios because of lack of resources and then helps these guys by giving em resources. Also MS is what forced them to buy their freedom in the first place? What kind of logic 😂

Chevalier3d ago

The best thing is that the company that is worth $3 trillion and owns the company instead of Xbox lacks resources. How the hell does a company worth $3 trillion making a measly $70 billion purchase they 'can't' support. Lol

BlindMango3d ago

The reason they would need to "partner with Microsoft" is simply to make a game that's part of a franchise that Microsoft owns. Meaning they're probably going to make a new Spyro game - they're still an independent studio, but are making a game in a franchise that Microsoft owns. It's kind of like Remedy partnering with Rockstar to be able to make the Max Payne remakes.

shinoff21833d ago

It was probably the deal to get released from Ms

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Sciurus_vulgaris4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

Xbox’s gaming division seems to still function as 3 semi-autonomous sub-divisions, Xbox Studios, Bethesda and ABK. The three main sub-divisions can seemingly shut down or build studios and set up partnerships independently. This would explain why Bethesda can recently shutdown studios, while ABK spins off one studio, while building a new one. Plus, Toys for Bob could be spun off by ABK, only to immediately re-partner with Microsoft.

Chevalier3d ago

That's absolutely 💯 BS. Any sane 'autonomous' company would NOT put their games on Gamepass day 1 like COD will lose probably billions.

Also they're all under Xbox game studios so any autonomy is an illusion.

PhillyDonJawn3d ago

No, I'm sure MS can and does step in when they want something done specifically but I'm also sure they let them also work independently

shinoff21833d ago

I highly highly doubt this. Ms controls all. The guys aren't gonna be allowed to just shut something down like that without approval. No way

Elda3d ago

Either a kiddie game or something uninteresting.

Obscure_Observer3d ago

Don´t worry. You won´t be playing it anyway since their next game will possible be a next gen Xbox console game.

Elda3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Don't worry about my comments.

PhillyDonJawn3d ago

Right probably something like astrobot

romulus233d ago

Nah he said "uninteresting", lots of people are interested in Astro Bot.

Elda3d ago

Never Astro Bot. Astro Bot looks better than any exclusive released on XB this entire generation & believe there hasn't been much.

Asplundh3d ago

Crash 4 was good, so I'm hopeful.

PhillyDonJawn3d ago

Hey you said that about SOT and looks like many ppl on PS is playing it. You also found bugsnax interesting ffs your opinion hold no weight lol.

Elda3d ago (Edited 3d ago )

Bugsnax is BS, tried it & quickly deleted it. It's a game that fits right on Gamepass. PS5 owners that are probably playing the boring SOT you could count on one hand. LMAO!!...don't try to come for me.

PhillyDonJawn3d ago

So you admit bugsnax interested you enough to try? 😂 someone gotta call you out on the foolishness.

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What Happens to Your Steam Account When You Die?

The Outerhaven writes: While Steam has come out recently, stating that Steam accounts can't be transferred, we need to think about it since we all will eventually kick the bucket. But if Valve is denying transferring accounts, what can be done? Plenty, actually.

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thorstein5d ago

It goes to my kids because I gave them the passwords.

To Steam: Missio has a song that conveys my feelings about you stealing my purchase after I die. It's called "Middle Fingers"

shinoff21834d ago

Pretty much. My son knows my info.

Abear214d ago

Yeah worrying about digital ownership when you’re on the other side of the grass seems a little strange, but also on brand for these millennial journalists to worry about.

qalpha3d ago

I'm sure Keith will be happy to hear he's a millennial journalist.

Goodguy014d ago

I suppose if I have kids, I'd just give em my account details by retirement age. If I die young then...idk lol.

CrimsonWing694d ago

Yea, I mean just give someone the password to your account. Is that difficult to do or something? Like, I’m legit asking because I don’t know.

anast4d ago (Edited 4d ago )

It's not difficult but It's against the policy. If they find out, they will lock the account permanently.

CrimsonWing694d ago

Ah ok, I had a feeling there was something like that. It seems kind of weird that you can’t just hand your account over to a family member or friend and let them take over the account.

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