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EA Didn't Change Anything. They Just Postponed Their Money Grab Scheme.

Milos Cuparic writes: Before we start talking about EA I just want to ask the people who decided not to buy Battlefront 2 to stay by that decision. We did a great thing, Reddit forced EA to stand down but this is not over, they have one more trick up their sleeve.

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HaveSumNuts2369d ago

EA were the first to come up with the brilliant idea to invent passcodes in order to play online multiplayer so they could charge people... That was in like 2010... It's 2017 now, I'm not suprized

NewMonday2368d ago

I'm postponing buying the game, it was day1 before this scam

WilliamSheridan2368d ago

They took them down because of the impending investigation from the European Gambling Committee. If you have a chance of getting coins from boxes, and in turn use those coins to buy in game items. And you buy the crystals that earn you that chance. You are essentially gambling, because you have assigned a monetary value on the items based on in game currency and now only have awarded a "chance" to win said currency randomly in loot boxes. Gambling...

NewMonday2368d ago

seeing this "gambling" scheme more often recently even beyond games at retail.

PlayStation_52368d ago

I agree. All the retards that keep buying FIFA, Madden and NBA Live every damn year to ensure that EA always has billions of dollars to rape other franchises are indeed "a bunch of mofos"...

subtenko2368d ago

These sports games always look the same every year. There is no leap like say Sony AAA devs do for there sequels.

Madden 2010 -> 2019 is like Uncharted 2 -> Uncharted 2 patch 1.4

UCForce2369d ago

Major publishers like 2K,Microsoft, Activision and among others will think twice about this. https://youtu.be/cPhRDN8T9_...

Liqu1d2368d ago (Edited 2368d ago )

If EA make lots of money they won't. Only thing they'll learn is to not sh*t on gamers with greedy monetisation so blatantly.

UCForce2368d ago

EA will get more expose and suffer the consequences.

Felsager2367d ago (Edited 2367d ago )

EA will learn the painful lesson not to fuck with us using micro transactions, paywalls, loot boxes and over expensive DLC material.

UBISOFT, ACTIVISION, TAKE TWO, MICROSOFT, you are next. If you piss off players, this is what you are going to get, a huge boycott from the community. We are greater in numbers, we have a louder voice and decide your fate.

PAY ATTENTION and don't repeat EA mistakes ever again.....

rainslacker2367d ago

@Fel

As nice as that snow ball would be, I think it's a bit too soon to think that poor MT implementations are a thing of the past.

Too often, gamers can forget what they're upset about, or at least a lot of things don't tend to gain traction. Sometimes things come up which cause more controversy....2 so far this gen really....and we can see some progress, but it's always hard to tell if that progress will be long term.

I do think that companies will be a bit more cautious, but i'm sure they'll find ways to implement it in some way.

TankCrossing2369d ago

Way too early to dismiss the changes. They've taken the MTs down temporarily so that they have room to make changes, and they will. We don't know what changes yet. Of course the transactions are coming back in some form, that's the trade-off for the DLC being free through the life of the game. That doesn't mean they will come back in the ridiculous pay 2 win format they're in now.

I totally get the skepticism that EA will do anything right, but it's stupid to judge the changes with such certainty before we know what they are. They're under quite immense pressure to deliver, clearly nobody is going to go easy on them.

UCForce2369d ago

Well, EA deserve to be criticized a lot. Because of their infamous reputation by screwing up with consumers and killing great devs.

TankCrossing2369d ago

They do deserve criticism, and they are getting it.

It's just too early to say "EA didn't change anything" here when they haven't made the changes yet. See what the changes are before saying nothing has changed. This might be our best shake at having a say in the conversation about micro-transactions and pay to win mechanics in the industry.

JBaby3432368d ago

I agree with you Tank. It is a great thing that they have taken the MTs down. Maybe they will come back with something shady... maybe not. The pressure is definitely on them to keep the consumer in mind. We need to wait and see.

TFJWM2368d ago (Edited 2368d ago )

The main take away from this every game in development is rethinking how to do MT. They are here to stay sadly...

Diffraction_Fos2368d ago (Edited 2368d ago )

@JBaby343 - They WILL come back with something shady. You can quote me on that. The only reason they've temporarily "removed" MTs is to prevent loss of initial sales revenue. They're counting on gullible people to think MTs are permanently removed and pay the $60 upfront. Have you learned nothing about EA's shady shit this past decade?

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UCForce2369d ago

Remember EA drop online pass and a lot of people were happy about it, but they didn't change their heart because they got another trick in their sleeves. Back in 2013 when the Xbox One was DRM console before MS reversed it. EA was extremely happy about it. But that was completely failed when Sony dropped the bomb on MS at E3 2013. It prevented EA from screwing the consumers. But at the same time, EA are just so greedy that they won't stop nothing to find a way to dry people wallet.

IamTylerDurden12369d ago

It's ridiculous that ppl are still criticising EA for making the right move. They are removing MTs and reworking the system so that it will be more consumer friendly. You can't simply just remove MTs and expect progression to be ok. MTs will be back, but in a less abhorrent way, and the game should be less grindy for those who don't want to spend. Now to what degree they change the game idk, but with the immense amount of scrutiny EA is under it would be brand suicide to simply bait and switch ppl by removing MTs for a week and putting them back with no changes to the game. EA messed up by making the MTs far too greedy but they are at least doing the right thing now..or they appear to be.

bigmalky2368d ago

They are bringing back MT progression for those who want it again, making it pay to win.

That's not doing the right thing. That's fucking over it's less wealthy customers.

PlayableGamez-2368d ago

You should never put MT and consumer friendly in the same sentence unless the word NOT is in it.

PlayableGamez-2368d ago

Another thing stop apologizing for EA.

Liqu1d2368d ago (Edited 2368d ago )

The "right move" would have been not having P2W elements and progression tied to loot boxes in the first place. You're very naive if you think EA are making changes because they want to do good by gamers, they're making changes because the outrage was clearly affecting them in some way. EA don't care about you.

Dragonscale2368d ago

Sorry but ea are the worst publishers in the industry. They deserve for this game to flop hard regardless along with all their other ip's. They are nothing but snakes who deserve all they get.

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datriax2368d ago

People like you.... Wow. Do you even have a friggen brain? EA hasn't been around for a year or 2, they've been around for 30+ years now. Pretty sure the "it's too early" bulls**t excuse can get bent, along with your idiocy.

TankCrossing2368d ago

Yeah, stamp those feet like a toddler. Good job champ.

TankCrossing2368d ago

Lots of people seem to be mistaking what I'm saying as some kind of belief that EA will do the right thing. I'm not saying that. I'm saying wait and see what they change before saying they have or haven't changed enough. That shouldn't even need saying, but it seems it does.

Ranting irrationally and rejecting changes we have no information about on the grounds that "boooo it's EA boooooo!" achieves nothing. It just weakens the legitimate complaints.

Nodoze2368d ago

How much do we want to bet that they are now going to say they cannot afford to fund the FREE DLC and we will have to make you pay for it.

rainslacker2367d ago (Edited 2367d ago )

People have been bitching about EA, and this kind of stuff, for over a decade now. I think gamers are just at the point where they want to hit EA while they're down, because it's so hard to get them against the ropes. They PR their way out of everything, and all too often, gamers don't keep the pressure up. On top of that, it's never really a huge part of the community that comes together on this issue, and it tends to be more just discussion instead of any real progressive movement.

I think we're just at a point where the gamers are trying to make sure EA knows that we're sick of their policies.

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XiNatsuDragnel2369d ago

Triple agree gamers we need to stand as one on this

Relientk772369d ago

EA just delayed the microtransactions so people buy it at launch, and when they're super hyped after seeing the new movie and need a Star Wars fix. 2018 the game will be rekt by microtransactions once more.

IamTylerDurden12369d ago

So would it have been better if they never dropped MTs? I don't understand ppl who get angry when a company tries to fix its mistake.

Mikelarry2369d ago (Edited 2369d ago )

They are not fixing anything, they just removed them temporarily and some of you gamers are eating it up. Like really how many times can a company push anti consumer practices on your favourite games before enough is enough. It is because of how complacent gamers have become that led to this in the first place. Stop excusing the BS unless you or a family member has got stakes in EA

JBaby3432368d ago

For now they are doing the right thing. If they start screwing gamers again then continue the criticism but as of now we should be happy about the changes. We have to wait and see what they come out with next. This has been huge in the industry as every company has surely taken note of what could happen.

Sgt_Slaughter2368d ago

They're delaying the unfixing of that mistake, that's the whole problem. We can see right through what they are trying to do and they're insulting our intelligence in the process.

We all know this will either come back in a slight altered but still outrageous way, or will be shifted to a brand new aspect of the game that's still just as greedy. It's EA, we're talking here, they always find a way.

PlayableGamez-2368d ago

EA didnt make a mistake. They knew what theey are doing.

Diffraction_Fos2368d ago

@JBaby343 - How old are you? Surely you're not THAT naive. Come on.

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The Best Multiplayer Xbox Game Pass Games to Play With Friends

Xbox Game Pass has some great single-player experiences, but nowadays, it's all about getting together with friends and family. Thankfully, there's a surprisingly extensive library of multiplayer titles on Game Pass to bring everyone together.

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Star Wars Battlefront 3: Is There Still Hope For A New Game?

Is Star Wars Battlefront 3 coming? Well, the correct answer is yes, no and maybe. It’s been six years since the second instalment, and fans are still waiting for confirmation of another sequel.

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anast151d ago

Game companies are not mature enough to handle this concept without turning it into a casino.

shadowknight203151d ago

The remakes of battlefront should have been more simular to the originals. CoD/battlefield reskinned as Star Wars was not the anwser.

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Is Gaming Really Worse Than It Used To Be?

From Xfire: "Stop if you've heard this one before - with all the unplayable buggy launches, rampant monetization, season passes, chunks of games being locked behind DLC paywalls, day one updates, always-online single player games, early access, lootboxes, massive patches, etc, games were so much better back in the eighties, or the nineties, or the oughties (pick whichever applies to your age bracket) right?"

marioJP871083d ago

Most definitely. Without a doubt.
The prices. DLC prices. Short stories. Less split screen gaming. Lesser amount of games are made these days because of the advancement of technology.
Everything is about graphics and resolution.

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FlakyGoose1083d ago

The prices: With subscriptions and sales I feel like games are cheaper than ever.

DLC: I agree 100% DLC and MTX sucks.

split screen: Well... yes but now we have online multiplayer you can game with people on the other side of the world.

Lesser amount of games: This is unequivocally false. More games are made than ever before by far.

Everything is about graphics and resolution: I agree there is too much emphasis on that, but at the same time you can find thousands of pixel art games as well. Modern recreations of retro style games have never been more popular.

CYALTR1083d ago (Edited 1083d ago )

"split screen: Well... yes but now we have online multiplayer you can game with people on the other side of the world."

Yeah, but that really isn't the same thing. Couch co-op encouraged actual human interaction, that is missing on multiplayer. I guess I don't really understand why both aren't able to be included on some games. I miss the old days of being able to sit down next to an actual person and play a game. I can still do it, as long as I have two different systems in the house I guess.

I'm old!! LOL

All that said, I think gaming today is a much more robust landscape. There is a game for just about anyone. As a male, who has seen games progress from Pong to what we have today, I suppose I could hate on the fact that not every game is designed for me. Back in the day, games were for boys, adolescents boys generally, and that's what everything was directed. Being an adolescent boy at the time, I thought that was pretty great! Now there are so many games out there that there is something for everyone, and I think that that is a good thing.

Tacoboto1083d ago (Edited 1083d ago )

The MSRP are stable and consistent compared to the SNES and N64 days ( https://retrovolve.com/n64-... $80 for Star Fox 64 and $60 for Ocarina of Time. That was over 20 years of inflation ago.

"Short stories" - *lists Sony's PS4 output as counterpoint*

"Everything is about graphics and resolution" and yet almost every single new-gen title has a 60fps mode except for Watch Dogs (for a few more days) and The Medium, and most adopt resolution scaling to keep stable framerate.

Lesser games are made, and yet everyone seems to have a massive backlog when the topic comes up.

I think some people like to yearn for the old days because they weren't actually alive during these old days. I'll give you the point about DLC prices (though, in the 360/PS3 era, if you didn't spend the money, you were fractured from the online userbase. Now maps are generally free but cosmetics are worse. Which one is worse for you? I'd say being forced to pay to keep playing with your buds)

Iltapalanyymi1083d ago

Yes, i still play a lot of old games for the first time and they are miles better than some new stuff is.

gold_drake1083d ago

same, some ps2 games even.

i remember a time when i just bought a game on a whim but now .. ill think twice about it.

Rimeskeem1083d ago

I feel like the market is changing a lot these days. Before it was about getting as much into the game as you could without blowing the console/computer up. Now that we have all this power and capability games take longer to make and there are way more steps. Prices go up because games get more expensive, the same thing with movies. But the experiences can be truly astonishing. No one who played Pong would have thought within 50 years they could play something like God of War. Of course, greed causes practices that are not liked by communities of gamers. Some companies have veered into such practices but some companies are maintaining a balance between profit and creativity.

There are pro's and con's but I don't think you can objectively say that gaming is better or worse than before.

MadLad1083d ago (Edited 1083d ago )

Better and worse.

Most AAA releases are trying to figure out how best to nickel and dime you in the background. Even developing the entire game around that practice.

On the other hand, digital storefronts are now a big thing, allowing more smaller budget releases to be had, being they don't have to foot the cost of handling physical releases.

There's definitely more content to be had then ever.

Essentially the AAA space has become cancer in a lot of ways. I'm not talking every release, or even every company, but with all of the season passes, the dlc that boosts player progression in competitive titles, and now the retail price hikes being pushed on people .... it's obvious these companies are getting more greedy, year after year.

Fist4achin1083d ago

Yes and no. Yes in that it's annoying to have all this DLC/microtransactions in games and forced multiplayer that's hot for about a minute before something new and shiny comes out.

No in that, there are a lot of good games coming out and I have a comfortable backlog that should keep me entertained for quite some time. I never have an issue of what to play next.

I think it's a great time to be a gamer and if you don't have anything to play, you're not looking hard enough.

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