PS3 Gamers Brace For A Rocky Ride

The Bioshock port to the PS3 has reopened the can of worms that is developing on the PS3. GamerChip looks at the future of gaming on the console and sees that the problems are set to continue.

[Hagaf22]

its only a rocky ride if you jump on.... while i want to play this i think it will be a renter until i see if they did well enough to justify buying a game thats over a year old and of better quality on a cheaper system.

[jwatt]

If you look at multiplatform title last year compared to now you can see that most developers are getting thier hands around the ps3. There's still going to be a few problems in the future but not a rocky ride.

Lets just see how the multiplatform tiles fair this holiday season to give us an idea of how the future is going to be.

[Coltrain]

it's fair to say that a lot of the major developers are getting their heads around the problem, but it's taking massive resources that most don't have access to. The U3 engine is a good example. Even though the Xbox and PC are quite similar, the engine still needed to be ported to the 360. This still hasn't effectively been done for the PS3. And with games like Endwar, from devs as large as Ubisoft, still running into problems, you can see that there are games currently in production that will come out over the next year that will face the same issues.

btw, thanks for an intelligent and well written response.. Pretty rare.

[Itsallfunandgames]

Did you see the Fox News "consumer report" today about the Holiday season? " If your lookin to buy an HD game console this holiday season look no further than the xbox 360. With more and higher quality exclusives, and the best versions of all multiplatform games. The PS3 is following Microsofts lead and may never catch up to the cheaper, yet superior game playingmachine". Whats bad is the only people still watching fox are those out of touch parents who don't know any better and will probably listen to this crap. The PS3 Has already hit its stride and is a solid console going into this season in my opinion.

[thewhoopimen]

I don't think its necessarily a media out of touch. I think that it's a pro-American call to buy American Products. Much like the calls from American Media for consumers to buy 24mpg American vehicles. Sure it's out of touch (and the products are really playing catchup), but with the economy the way it is, we should be trying to bolster our country's products... even if it is inferior compared to whats out there. At least that's how I see the message is.

The problem with this attitude is that we're coddling industries that should have tried to stay competitive or be less 'corrupt.' Instead we're propping them up when Darwin is telling us "Survival of the Fittest."

[Athlon]

Yeah. The developers will learn their lesson once they see the "rocky" sales.

[NegativeCreep427]

Once these developing companies start to see the uprising in PS3 market share, they'll decide that allocating their "extra" development assets to the PS3 is actually a smart investment.

But despite what I have read within this article, I still see that lazy third-party developers are the ones who primarily see some degree of failure within their products.

[bennyace]

Maybe they'll stop making games for the PS3. If they spend more on developing the game that they make selling them, that's what's going to happen. And Sony can't rely on 1st party games alone. Something has to change. People won't continue to support Sony for the 10 year marathon if they get good 1st party game and second grade multiplatforms games. When the PS2 and the Xbox had multiplatform games coming out on both systems, the Xbox version was always the better looking one. If the PS3 is that more powerfull than the 360, we should see the same thing!

[thewhoopimen]

You seem to have the typical mentality of the Average American. If it's bigger ... then it must be better!~ Seriously, the leap between current gen tech and next gen is so big that a couple of bad ports seems to be skewing your perspective. I'd like to compare your perspective with how the average SUV owning american used to view Hybrids. Yeah those small dinky hybrids sure underperform the massive horse power laden SUV... that was until you hit the 100 mile mark/Gas price hike. All of a sudden, who's left in the dust?

That comparison goes hand in hand with how the avg. American also doesn't read the news much. It seems only a select few know that many research institutions have demonstrated the cell being a vastly superior chip to current generation CPUS AND GPUS. Oh and the fact that (everyone seems to miss) this new gen chip isn't memory dependent like last gen... (kind of like how hybrids aren't big on gas tanks I suppose with the previous car comparison).

So who's shortsighted on this matter?

[ofx360]

I thought the attach rate for game sales on the 360 was way better than the attach rate for the wii and ps3(see ANY multiplatform game sales). So what are you talking about.

[thewhoopimen]

Attach rates are great and all... but prior to this gen who but MS talked about Attach rates? Certainly not Nintendo or Sony or EA, Activision, Lucas Arts, Valve, etc.

Attach rates are great for MS, that's about it.

And if you want me to take you back to the car comparison I was making earlier. SUVS had GREAT attach rates until Gas prices hit nearly $4 and the economy went kaput.

Now that's how I view attach rates.

[PirateThom]

Yeah, because the silky smooth frame rate of Wipeout HD really is rocky. :(

[Panthers]

I played Bioshock demo and loved it. It was scary and fun. Dont see why everyone is complaining over a very small difference.

[Pennywise]

Because fanboys want to ruin your time gaming and reading news on this site. So sick of it.

[Aclay]

If the PS3 was the lead platform or if Bioshock was developed specifically for each platform then the issues with Bioshock on PS3 probably wouldn't be so much of an issue.

I think that the majority of 3rd party developers have come to grips with the PS3's hardware, because the most of the really bad ports were last year on the PS3 because developers were still getting used to the PS3's tech, but this year it's been mostly the opposite.

Plus, if there will be any issues with PS3 games in the future, more than likely it will be 3rd party games, and I don't buy many 3rd party games in the first place.

When it comes to 1st party PS3 games, or exclusives, the development of those games will be fine and for the most part there is no "Rocky Ride" when it comes to 1st party and 2nd party PS3 development because if Insomniac could push out Resistance 2 in just 2 years while releasing a new Rachet game last year, I think it's safe to say that development on the PS3 for them and most Sony 1st and 2nd party devs. is a breeze. The game development of PS3 exclusives is what really matters to me the most though.

[Snukadaman_]

These people working on the port of bioshock were supposed to be probably the best there was at understanding the ps3. If the best could not better a year old game and even bring it up to par...then only first party games are the only thing to look foward to...sounds like something people have been saying since the ps3 was released...our first party games are great but sometimes a port of a older game cant be better....why get a ps3.

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

They are far from the best.

If EA Chicago and Bethesda can do it...so can they!

FNR3 and Oblivion both looked better on PS3.

[FantasyStar]

Add Burnout Paradise, and Call of Duty 4 to that list as well.

[SixTwoTwo]

Typical gamerchip article. Enjoy your hits.

[Blademask]

Every single multiplat this year with the exception of Pure and bioshock has been just fine.

Now idiots are pretending there are problems?

Looking forward to their Mirror's Edge reports.

*sigh*

[Coltrain]

Check the quotes, do some research. You think that developers aren't having problems getting their games on the PS3 at the moment? Ubisoft are STILL citing issues with Endwar and it's not even out yet. The problems with the Unreal 3 engine are STILL not fixed. Nobody is saying that first party games won't rock, and the articles cited that you can get a great game on the system - you just need a team on 90 to port it over. Read the article, read the quotes, find the facts.

[JD_Shadow]

Actually, this is more of a "let's be lazy and use this as an excuse" and the press will never once check anyone who says this because, by God, it's not the 360 they are talking about.

I'm pretty sure if it was the 360 that was "hard to work around" this article would have a field day discussing why developers won't take a chance and defend the system and check the developers.

Seriously, how much manpower do you NEED to learn ONE thing? This is a cell processor, not translating the Holy Bible! All you really need is one person that knows what the hell he's doing in there and the rest to just follow his lead when you are actually ready to get off your lazy ass and DO some of the actual work necessary. That's the issue here, yet the press and these people just continue to fund excuses to why they won't even make the effort.

[harpua]

pffft, game play looks fine to me. i'm not some fanboy with a magnifying glass examining textures. will definitely pick this one up for the PS3 and laugh at all the "sky is falling" posts for the PS3.

[BISHOP-BRASIL]

Good for you man. My problem is exctly with the gameplay. The graphics/water is funny but forgiveable, what I can't do is the transition to the controller (I played it on PC early this year).

[paracardium]

Develop on a inferior system them bring it to superior system it's going to have flaws.These console wars are comical ..it's funny to throw a comment out there to see who bites. Ps3 truthfully is the better system all around for your money noone can deny that.

[gnothe1]

theres a flaw in your logic!! last gen when a game was built on the inferior Ps2 then PORTED to the xbox 1 we didnt have these problems, so why do we have them now. u guys can tout the PS3 as the MOST POWERFUL or the superior system all you want but the GAMES AINT showing it.

[DJ]

Now games ported to the Xbox had better shader effects and higher resolution textures due to the 64MB of ram that the Xbox had, but PS2 games CRUSHED the competition when it came to AI, Physics, Particle effects, Animation, and Lighting.

There's a reason MGS2 had to be downgraded in order to run properly on the Xbox.

[karlostomy]

But you are full of sh!t....

The xbox pwned every single (count em) multiplat that existed.
Not ONCE did the ps2 end up with the better version.

Please, if you are going to lie to yourself, at least spare us the drudgery of your teary posts.

[Sarcasm]

That's why I buy multiplat titles for the 360, and PS3 exclusives only. But articles like these is forgetting that the table is swinging around slowly but surely.

EA and other companies are using the PS3 as the lead platform. Which results in better quality for both PS3 and 360 gamers.

It's almost a no brainer that a port from the 360 to the PS3 is going to result in a lower quality.

[DiabloRising]

Yeah hi.

If its the UNREAL 3 ENGINE, and its PORTED FROM THE 360, they are gonna have issues. So if EVERY game in the future is made on the U3 engine, THEN its gonna be a serious issue since Epic doesn't seem to be really giving a damn in this case.

But let's continue to ignore titles like GTAIV, CoD4, DMC4, Burnout Paradise, Oblivion.... they don't exist, M I RITE GUYS?

[LeonSKennedy4Life]

People tend to ignore those games...

[karlostomy]

Burnout - equal
DMC - equal
Oblivion - equal after patches
COD4 - (better 360 textures)
GTA4 - 640p ps3. 720p 360. (360 better resolution)

Perhaps there is something staring you in the face which YOU are ignoring?

:)

[REDZEV]

Ive been telling you Droids time and time again. The POS3 is the biggest joke of a console since the Atari Jaguar. Stop being in denial and ask your mommys and daddys or even Santa for a 360 or a Wii for christmas. You will not be dissapointed.

[NegativeCreep427]

Why don't you ask Santa Claus for a brain that is everything but a distorted, prepossessed piece of fanboy Sh*t?

[GiantEnemyLobster]

As soon as I heard the words "Five hundred ninety nine US dollars" Back at E3 '06, (after having a long and good laugh), I already knew that the PS3 would never make itself into anything this generation. PlayStation is the new Sega.. Which means next gen, Sony will be developing crappy games on the XBOX®720.

[NegativeCreep427]

Hey, just because idiots like you can't make an annual salary over six figures doesn't mean the average college-educated person can't afford to spend anything over $200 for an entertainment system, which also means that the average college-educated person in the entire United States, Japanese, and European populous can do the same.

If people like you were the entire norm, than the entire world populous would be like the stereo-typical street bum looking for a piece of candy on the side of a street curb.

[vlazed]

I am glad the PS3 is hard to develop for. All this does is separate the good developers from the bad ones.

[gnothe1]

3 out of the 5 games you named LOOKED better on the 360, why do you guys keep CLAIMING them as better on the PS3 when its been PROVEN right here on this site many times that DMC4,GTA4 an COD4 all look better on the 360!! the 360 version supports better textures on ALL those games, one even runs at a higher resolution,oblivion launched a year later an MATCHED the PATCHED 360 version. an im gonna give you burnout, I can tell the truth burnout does look a little better on the PS3!!

[DJ]

PS3 as they did on 360. The only difference i could see was in the inherent rendering styles of the systems' respective GPUs. Xenos leans towards crisp, clean images while RSX creates warmer, more naturalistic images. But it's very subtle.

[cmrbe]

I don't know about you guys but i am bracing for some really great PS3 gaming in coming months in fact years.

[Bathyj]

Yeah, a thousand dollars worth of games out this month alone that I want.

I'm hella worried.

[DJ]

There's too many damn games to choose from!! Haha.

[ApocalypseShadow]

or the fact that ps3 exclusives like GT5:P,uncharted,mgs4,etc.,look better than the best 360 games and have more going on onscreen.

i mean really,put GT5 up against any 360 game and see if they have

the same resolution
the same texture quality
the same framerate
or the same amount of vehicles(or objects)

don't say any 360 racer looks just as good on 360 as ps3 when it only has half the cars and a lower resolution.

multiplatform ports are not the source of what system power is.if 360 has easier development,more ram or better textures,how come we haven't seen it best GT5 and the "elite club?"

apocalypse.............

[theEnemy]

Good thing First Part Devs of Sony are doing their best to please PS3 Gamers.

[Itsallfunandgames]

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[pain777pas]

I just noticed that the 360 version of Bioshock is not as good as I remembered it and the PS3 version is more consitent visually however I still prefer the 360 visuals in the game.

[Neurotoxin]

Unreal Engine. Enough said.

[cooperdnizzle]

Any good developer can make a good game for the ps3 as good as they can make it for the 360! Just cause your a lazy developer don't put down the machine! And no 360 game can beat mgs4 Resistance 2 or Killzone2, LBP, Heavy Rain, 360 Has one good game gears of war. So suck on that give me one good 360 exclusive other than gears of war . You can't its that simple

[HairyBrownSack]

BS3.....Gamers????

makes no sense!

[Torch]

Hmmm...Didn't get to read this article.

Author must be referring to Motorstorm 2. ;)

[Final_Rpg]

The difference in bioshock won't effect me at all seeing as I play on a standard definition television.

[Groo]

I've had a 360 since launch.. I've had my PS3 for 6 months... sold my 360 2 weeks ago.. guess i'm prepared for the rocky ride...

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

Totally different architectures.
The one thing that would of solved alot of this crap is why Sony didn't include more RAM for god's sake!!!
They came out last and so with 256 MB of moRe V-Ram it would of been easy to do HD textures etc,and such that Xbox360 easily copes with cause of it's unified architecture..Instead
Having so so PC dev teams go into Cell and figure out how to juggle the cores with all these instructions and ram issues its horrible!..
But IT's the future so what can we say???

But GOd bless whoever has the money the talent and focus to utilize the best of whats available and deliver a true next gen experience..Im still waiting for this ,But honestly Gran Tourismo 5 in True HD was one hell of a taste!!!!!
So was Wipe out HD!!