If Doom is on Switch, What Other AAA Games Can We Expect?

Arguments like “Switch is too weak to run AAA third party games” don't fly anymore. If DOOM can run on Switch, why can't other AAA games? And what are the chances of these games coming to Nintendo's system?

[OoglyBoogly]

"Arguments like “Switch is too weak to run AAA third party games” don't fly anymore."

Actually, they do. According to everything I'm reading the Switch version is running 720p and 30fps...nearly half the frame rate and resolution of the PS4 version.

The Switch is too weak to run AAA third party games...it's just in luck that DOOM was already well optimized and DESIGNED to not be hard to run (hence the 1080/60 on PS4).

That and we have to keep in mind things like RAM and CPU speed in the Switch as well. Fortunately, DOOM isn't processor intensive or uses GPU physics and the like or else the Switch wouldn't stand a chance.

No, games like this are an exception to the rule.

[bluefox755]

DF said the same thing, Doom is kind of a special exception because of the scalability of the id tech 6 engine. I don't see many other AAA games coming to Switch.

[OoglyBoogly]

Apparently Digital Freakin' Foundry don't know anything according to the downvoters.

[xPhearR3dx]

So you're just going to ignore the fact that the Switch already has NBA 2K18, FIFA, and Dragonball Xenoverse 2? Not including the fact that WWE 2K18, L.A. Noire, Skyrim, Wolfenstein 2 along with Doom are also coming to the Switch within the next few months, not counting first party titles. This is all within less than a year of the Switch launching. Lets not forget with all the sales reports coming out for the Switch along with 2 of highest rated games this generation within months of each other is going to draw a lot of attention from investors. More investors, more money and support, more games.

[marloc_x]

These dev's work is not "luck"..

..this is a complex game running great on a machine the size of an Archie comic..

[OoglyBoogly]

No, you're right, it's not luck...it's design.

The game, again, was designed to be easy to run. The game's resolution and framerate being cut in half is what makes it run on the Switch.

That was the point.

[Shiken]

So what is your excuse for Wolfenstein 2 then?

[TheFirstClassic]

I think most games that run at 1080p 60 fps on ps4 and xbox could be expected to be scaled down for switch at 720p and 30 fps, but you aren't going to see the witcher 3 on this thing anytime soon.

[OoglyBoogly]

Exactly. People obviously just don't understand this.

And yeah, most games that do run at 1080p and 60fps could probably be scaled down for the Switch. Problem is that most games are 1080p and only 30fps...meaning that they'd have to make more compromises.

[Darkstryder360]

Witcher 3, portable. Make it happen.

[UKRsoldja]

I guess if you want 480p/20fps...

[Darkstryder360]

Why so pessimistic. Dream big.

[Prince_TFK]

Realistically, AAA games that can be run on the Switch that I expect to come out somedays are:

GTA V
South Park Fractured But Whole
Dark Soul 3
Resident Evil 7
The Evil Within 2
Fallout 4
Overwatch

Hopefully more will follow as well.

[DrJones]

Not Fallout 4

[vergilxx3]

Probaly not but there are a lot of rumors that it is coming to switch

[bluefox755]

According to DF, this isn't going to be a common occurrence. Doom is kind of a special exception because of the scalability of id tech 6. They tested it, and it's amazing how low of hardware it'll run on PC. They matched Switch hardware as closely as possible, and it actually ran on the test PC. Pretty impressive, though they also stated they don't expect it too happen very often with other games.

[Prince_TFK]

That doesn't explain how other games such as Wolfenstein 2, LA Noire, Payday 2, WWE2K18, and to a lesser extend Rocket League and Steep would run on the Switch.

[marloc_x]

..well said.

[OoglyBoogly]

Sure it does. LA Noire and Payday 2 are last-gen games...so I hope the Switch could run them.

Rocket League runs on anything.

The other games are just due to not being that demanding to begin with. Steep is all snow and more basic geometry, Wolfenstein is the same way.

With WWE2K18 do we know the specs the game is running at? Are the crowd sizes the same as the X1/PS4?

I mean, it's not like it's IMPOSSIBLE for the Switch to run current gen games...but with what compromises? How easy are the games to run already? You think the Switch is getting and upcoming AAA games that are actually graphically demanding?

And don't get me wrong, not hating or anything here, I just like talking tech (something people get offended by). But to be realistic people the Switch is a cut down Nvidia Tegra X1...it's been proven. The Tegra X1 is not a powerhouse by any means. The Switch has two 1GHz processors and 256 CUDA cores. I'm surprised it's been able to do what it can do...

[GamingCentaur]

None of those are graphically intensive. Wolfenstein is running on the same engine as DOOM.

[porkChop]

With how well the Switch is selling, and the high attach rate, I'd say expect COD to show up next year. Whether it's WWII, or next year's COD, or even MWR, I don't know. But Activision sells on anything that makes money, and the Switch is definitely making money.

I think we'll see something like RE7, or maybe a port of The Evil Within 2. Those games just kind of make sense, and they'd be cool to see. As far as RE7, we know they're porting the engine to the Switch.

I'd be surprised if we don't see one of the big card Games next year. Hearthstone, Gwent, Elder Scrolls Legends, Magic, etc. They kind of just make sense for the platform. Personally, I'm hoping for Gwent.

Lastly, with UE4 being so well optimized for Switch, we could see Fortnite. I could see that being really popular, especially now with the Battle Royale mode.

[NovusTerminus]

Same thing we see on most Nintendo consoles, several ports of existing games, followed by dwindling support and within 2 years most games will not launch on it.

[FreddyFazbear]

Dont keep your hopes up guys. The Switch is not even half past the Teraflops of the 2 other consoles and yet you expect AAA games? you say wolfenstein 2, pay day 2 and LA noire is on switch but they are not graphically intense. LA noire was on PS3 360 and so is payday. And if they did manage to put other graphically intense games, that would be due to compromises, like Resolution, frame rate, Textures, Effects and Polygon count anything to make it run. You guys make it sound like the switch version is as good as the PS4 and Xbone. It is not even on 1 teraflop of gpu. Well people can dream

[OoglyBoogly]

"You guys make it sound like the switch version is as good as the PS4 and Xbone."

I think this is the root of the issue.

I mean, realistically, like you say, ANY game can basically run on any system if it's cut back enough. Even current-gen games could run on last-gen systems if we stuck to the sub-720p/sub-30fps, lower texture resolution, less effects, less enemies/NPC's, etc we saw on the PS3 and 360. The same thing we're seeing with current games getting ported to the Switch.

It's not that the Switch can't run current games, it's just that people like you say, are acting like Switch Doom is the same as PS4 Doom even though everything's been basically halved to get it to run.

Still cool to play on the go, for sure, but it's not some technical marvel. It's a Nvidia Tegra X1 that's been cut down. Nothing magic or impressive about this hardware.

[FreddyFazbear]

Well said friend. Yup I agree fully to everything you say. Im not downplaying nintendo. Im just saying that other gamers should be fully informed. We do not need to be developers to know how a high end game can run on a weaker system. I mean look at the vita ports vs. PS3/PS4. still looks good but compare it side to side you will see difference. But its really cool to play on the go.

[Riku07]

Why do you guys keep saying that the switch has no teraflops? The Nintendo switch has around 1.14 teraflops. It is very close to the original Xbox one's teraflops which is around 1.34 I believe. You need to read more before you post unless you are talking about Xbox one x and PlayStation 4 pro.

[UKRsoldja]

Please stop spreading misinformation. The Switch is at .4 teraflops docked and .15 teraflops portable. About 3 times less powerful than Xbox one. The 1 teraflop is a theoretical maximum of the Tegra chip, running 16 bit math. Game consoles are rated in 32 bit math AND the tegra chip is downclocked on the switch. Using 16 bit math, the X1 is a 2.6 teraflop console.

Please use some common sense. If the Switch was almost as powerful as the X1, Doom wouldn't be running in low/720/30 unlike on the X1, which does medium/1080/60. Doom runs like 5 times less pixels per second on the nintendo console...

[FreddyFazbear]

Sorry for the word but you look like an idiot for what you said, telling me to read when your the one who needs some research. The 1 teraflop just like UKRsoldja said was theoretical flops that the tegra X1 can achieve. The switch version is a downclocked version. Its nowhere near AMD GPU Durango of xbox one. Common sense!! A small hybrid console can go head to head with a MS made home console?? my point is proven, some people are misinformed and OVERESTIMATE the switch. It cannot even run FFXV even square wanted to. Doom had so much downgrade for it to run on switch. Stop with the delusions. This is fact.

[DivineAssault]

I dont want all ports though.. I want something unique from the studios..

[OoglyBoogly]

Why not have and be happy with both? I'd rather have both.

[DivineAssault]

Both would be great.. I just dont know if they will

[Bronxs15]

I recently got a switch. One thing that concerns me is the controls. Does anyone else experience major input lag with joy cons? I’ve heard of sync and connectivity issues. They say it can’t be close to a cell phone and stuff like that. Kinda ridiculous Cus ps and Xbox wireless controllers work fine. Any other switch owners find there is a delay with controller input or is it just me?

Anyway that wouldn’t be too good for these twitch type FPS

[OoglyBoogly]

Maybe try a different one? I seem to recall the Switch having controller connection issues at launch...bad Bluetooth or some such. Was suppose to be fixed?

[Gemmol]

Return it or send it in, i don't have that issue

[Bronxs15]

Thanks for the suggestions.

[Zjet]

Hoping to see COD WWII personally.

On the go game with bot support in multiplayer? yes please.

[dougr]

The switch is surprisingly great. I get to play the awesome exclusives, but having the ps4 pro, I get to play all the multi platform games on the ps4. If you have a switch, I definitely think it is a necessity to also own an xbox or playstation if you like to play mutliplatform games. But Mario and Zelda are top notch, definitely worth the cost of the switch for those two titles. I was surprised, I thought the WiiU sucked, but I love the switch (not the joy cons though, I can't stand the joy cons).

[masterfox]

S#@$t this is what I was afraid off! and then comes parity, less content, less visuals in multiplataform games, I know I'm exaggerating but still who knows, you know there is a reason why I called the Switch a menace to this game industry, instead going forward pushing boundaries in gaming now they are trying to fit a triple A games into that low spec thing!, still in the end we have Sony Playstation who has been saving this industry for decades, for example when the N64 cartridges existed there was the Playstation using CD's with hell more storage and cheaper, when the Gamecube braidead small disc were released with the mental gamecube controller there was the PS2 using DVD with the dualshock, when the Wii appear selling millions to the elderly, horrendous game library, the 360 blowing up there was the PS3 pushing boundaries with Blu-ray, even thou released very expensive it made a comeback releasing stunning games.

So in the end is annoying to hear this kind of news, but is not something we didn't deal before, we always had these companies making dumb decisions like Nintendo and MS that can have downside effects on this gaming industry, but at the same time we have Sony Playstation that always come to the rescue because of this dumb nuts like Nintendo and MS, just think about it for a second if the Playstation didn't exist, xbox wouldn't exist and would be all about Nintendo!, holy damn!, now that scary!, talking about a Halloween horror bedtime story!daamnnn.

So don't worry people this is just history repeating itself. ;)

[juegosmajicos]

Well, lucky for you, these weren't news, it was a speculation article. None of the games listed here are confirmed to be coming to the Switch, Some might, some most likely won't.

[DrJones]

Get a PC you graphics wh***

[Xenophon_York]

The Switch should get more and more games now that developers see that their time/money spent porting and tweaking games designed for PS4 and XBOX One will be worth it—thanks to the exceptional speed of Switch sales.

But, it's important to understand that the closer next generation gets the more demanding games are going to get. Which, will lead to more difficulty making the latest games compatible across all consoles.

[prb313]

cause people like activision and ea and so on just care about money. ea just announced they are waiting to bring more games to swith like what the hell is that about seriously. u give us a crap port of soccer and go well didnt sell well lets see how a good year goes before making more. shame on them. the switch is the hottest console rite now. and thats without games like starwars. battlefield. call of duty ww2. its a damn damn damn shame tbose arent coming they can run especually if doom can and the rumoured gta 5. like come on devs. keep games coming the console is selling well some one will buy the damn game on the play anywhere aspect. any game can play. and downscaleing graphics is not that bad. like good god