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Insomniac On Sunset Overdrive 2: "We Just Need To Find A Publisher"

On Twitter, Insomniac's official account responded to a tweet pleading for a sequel to Sunset Overdrive with "We'd love to, we just need to find a publisher!"

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FallenAngel19842389d ago

Microsoft never owned the IP in the first place. That's the entire reason it came to Xbox One

-Foxtrot2389d ago (Edited 2389d ago )

Yeah but I mean if they were committed and thought they could give it there all with a sequel then they would have done it...a new IP is a new IP. They should be thinking "Shit...we don't have many exclusives, people are calling us out for that, we need to keep these guys around".

They did the same with Alan Wake, it didn't do as well as they wanted, they got Remedy to do American Nightmare which was more action focused, when that didn't capture a bigger audience they basically told Remedy to drop it and got them to work on a new IP if they wanted publishing rights...back then when they started development Microsoft were still kind of top dog, the PS4 success was unknown as it hadn't released, this is going off if they started development right after American Nightmare in 2012.

They don't give chances...they want numbers straight away like it's going to be the new Halo or Gears, when it fails to meet their high expectations they drop it.

FallenAngel19842389d ago

Microsoft isn't committed to many of the new IPs they published this generation. Just look at how they didn't do anything to follow up on Ryse. No reason to suspect they'd start with Sunset Overdrive, a franchise they'd never have any chance of owning the rights to unlike with Gears of War where they later were able to buy the IP at a later date. Only new IP Microsoft is focusing on this gen is Minecraft & Ori.

Hell there's even only a handful of preexisting franchises that they own entirely that they commit to while leaving a lot of others to fall by the wayside.

In 2012 Microsoft weren't the top dog since PS3 was outselling 360 globally at the time.

Obscure_Observer2388d ago (Edited 2388d ago )

@-Foxtrot

"They don't give chances...they want numbers straight away like it's going to be the new Halo or Gears, when it fails to meet their high expectations they drop it."

Yeah, Like Sony and The Order? Like they did with Gravity Rush 2 which they canceled its support and shut down servers after a only year even despite the fact that they´re charging more for PSN? Are they will ever make a new Gravity Rush? Or Knack II which flopped hard selling only 2K copies in Japan and 700K worldwide?

You see, i´m just point out facts! All of those games are Sony IPs! Sunset Overdrive is not Microsoft´s IP. I was here by the time which Sunset Overdrive was announced to be an Xbox One exclusive game and how you PS extreme go berserk over it. Talking about boycott Insomniac and stuff. Have you ever seen Newmonday on a Spiderman article? At the very least he´s honest!

If Sunset Overdrive 2 was announced as an Xbox One exclusive, i know for a fact that you guys would go berserk all over again. It would be like "Microsoft should invest in their own studios instead of pay developers to keep their games away from playstation gamers." That´s what you would be talking about.

I love Sunset Overdrive and i would love to see a sequel. But this time, i think Microsoft is doing things right. If PS only gamers crave so much for this game, they should ask Sony to publish it!

Why o why2388d ago

The irony in mentioning gravity rush 2 was that it was a sequel. . . The online support culling on a predominantly single player game isn't the same as 'the order' not getting a sequel that we know about.

I don't mind if ms snag 3rd party exclusives. . It's still something unique to the console plus that would be hypocritical as there are quite a few 3rd party exclusives on Sony's platform. The glaring difference between Sony and ms is that ms need something like sunset overdrive more than Sony do. I'm surprised ms haven't held onto this franchise but maybe they had their reasons. I don't know how well it sold nor if that's a reason they didn't secure the sequel. Maybe ms weren't offered it. . Who knows. . One things for sure though, keeping it exclusive would of been good for the Xbox brand in regards to diversity and quality.

moegooner882387d ago (Edited 2387d ago )

@Obscure_Observer Using GR2, a sequel to make your point. This is priceless lol. Try again please.

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Godmars2902388d ago (Edited 2388d ago )

That's a pity.

Wonder what's going to happen if Sony picks it up?

And to any counters to the question: thought Insomniac owned the IP.

Ceaser98573612388d ago

Sony should grab it and for ffs please let Insomniac keep the IP... afaik Sony wanted the IP of SSOD and Insomniac denied ...

DaDrunkenJester2388d ago

Its better for the developers to own their IP. MS let them do that so that's why it was an Xbox exclusive

Ceaser98573612388d ago

LOL! why the disagree. People living under the rock it seems. They didn't know that SSOD was actually supposed to come on the PS4 in the first place but Sony wanted to Owe the IP and Insomniac didn't want to sell, due to such disagreement Insomniac went to Xbox who agreed to publish the game for them without buying their IP..

343_Guilty_Spark2388d ago

Why should they publish it if they don’t own the IP and it didn’t do well the first time?

Retroman2387d ago

Simple, insomniac contract Sunset Overdrive to Sony whooooo-la on Ps4
What MS give up on Sony collect, another day in the office for business .

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freshslicepizza2388d ago (Edited 2388d ago )

Where they always are, bacl to the same familiar IP's like Forza. Microsoft continues to show they are not interested in games unless they can make franchises out of them and I imagine the first Sunset Overdrive wasn't very profitable.

spreadlove2388d ago (Edited 2388d ago )

I think we have to talk about break even, not losses, before profit.

FITgamer2388d ago

*...unless they can make it GAAS and add tons of microtransactions.

UltraNova2388d ago (Edited 2388d ago )

@fitgamer

If they owned the IP it would be filled with MTs from the get go.

goken2388d ago

that's definitely the case.

mainly because the xfans keep insisting they are not missing anything as long as they have forza, gears and Halo...
if it's all the same to the xfans, why should ms invest in potentially lost making titles.
methinks xfans and ms deserve each other. hey as long they're Happy right?

Eonjay2388d ago

Sometimes, you can't stop at the first game. Think about Uncharted vs Uncharted 2 or even Halo to Halo 2 and how much it expanded the franchise. SO has a good solid foundation and that is something to build off of.

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subtenko2388d ago

trying to use and entice other developers/

Majin-vegeta2389d ago

IDK why Insom is playing dumb they know where their fanbase and games are appreciated!!

ninsigma2389d ago

Sony might still have the same stipulation as last time though (they have to own the rights) which is not what insomniac want. I do hope some agreement happens with a publisher, the first was great fun, would love a sequal.

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subtenko2388d ago

Im sure there are games that are exclusive on PS right now that sony doesnt own....I know Im not crazy because I rememeber discussing this a few times with friends

ninsigma2388d ago

That's true. It's just the original stipulation Sony gave to Insomniac if they were to publish SSO so it might be again for a possible sequal, especially seeing as the the games sales didn't set the world on fire.

AspiringProGenji2389d ago

True and even some like me didn't mind buying an Xbox one to play the game and support it and the game still undersold. It is such a shame... hopefully the 2nd game happens soon and is Multiplat so they can sell more.

zivtheawesome2388d ago

i think that insomniac had a deal with microsoft meaning that this franchise must be an xbox exclusive or something.

ninsigma2388d ago

Maybe the first has to I'm not sure but the whole reason insomniac went with Microsoft was because Insomniac wanted to keep the rights to the IP which Sony wasn't willing to allow. A sequal can go anywhere as long as they get a publisher to fund them.

DaDrunkenJester2388d ago (Edited 2388d ago )

I loved it on my Xbox. I think the only reason it failed is because MS basically slit their own throat at the beginning of this gen and this was a launch window title when not many people were buying Xbox's yet.

I hope someone picks it up for a sequel, SSOD is one of my favorite games this gen and I want to play a sequel no matter who publishes it.

Edit: For some reason I thought SSOD was a launch window, but it was released almost a year after the X1. My bad.

andrewsquall2388d ago

The game was out right around the time the Xbone dropped Kinect and was slashed to 400 quid. It was PERFECT timing as some of the more head screwed on fans finally decided it was time to get the console.

KwietStorm_BLM2388d ago

The game doesn't have to be a PlayStation exclusive just because they are looking for a publisher.

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ninsigma2388d ago

It would be a bit cut back but would definitely be a fun portable game.

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Microsoft Is Finally Ending Its Focus On Big Budget Gaming Nonsense

Back when the Xbox 360 launched, Microsoft pushed the big budget game as a differentiator. Following all the recent layoffs, it’s clear this strategy has run its course.

Einhander197215h ago(Edited 15h ago)

The Microsoft shill take on the Microsoft causing the death of big budget gaming...

The whole driving force for growth in gaming both technologically, creatively and financially was all nonsense, and it was definitely not because Microsoft ran the industry into the ground with obviously bad decisions and creating an unprofitable business model that massively disrupted consumer spending habits. /s

RpgSama14h ago

First, F**** Forbes and their shill take, I hope the money cleared by now.

Second, Which big budget games I might ask? Microsoft has been in a rut for like a decade now, with no big publisher and developers puechases they would have not released anything in the last 5 years but the new Halo and Forza.

Eonjay11h ago

Fortunately for us, since we know this message is basically coming from Microsoft, we can read into their motives. Why are they trying to turn people against big budget games and who would it help.... hmmm.

neutralgamer199210h ago

GP is like any content service it needs new content. AAA games take 100 plus million (low end estimates since most AAA games take double that) and it 4-5 years to develop. That’s why there were 2 god of war games instead of 3 because Cory felt like it would take too long

I am not defending MS. That’s just the reality when you put all your eggs in one basket (gamepass) and now they need content. Sadly that’s what we all said would happen and is happening. GP will be a service for AA games with 1-2 AAA games on yearly basis. And I am all for AA games because to me that’s where developers can take chances on smaller budgets but MS has mismanaged this whole situation from the beginning. Their messaging needs to be clear and it’s not

They own so many studios and IP’s they just need to get everyone on schedule so that there are games releasing every few months on GP. But I don’t even think Phil knows what he wants. It seems his goals change constantly

Game pass is not a sustainable and take two ceo was right when he said that it doesn’t make any business sense to release huge AAA games day one on GP. Just like call of duty shouldn’t be on GP because why give up on 15-20 million sales

Einhander19727h ago

"And I am all for AA games because to me that’s where developers can take chances on smaller budgets"

How'd that work out for Tango?

Do you think less AAA games will increase game pass revenue or decrease it when it has less value? What if they also have to increase the costs?

S2Killinit9h ago(Edited 9h ago)

Right on.

Hahaha MS has ended “focus” on games? Lol when? 3 generations ago maybe?

Skuletor1h ago

I noticed it near the end of the 360 era.

notachance4h ago

Man I don’t know what the writer is smoking, anyone with a braincell can see what will happen is the exact opposite, they’re gonna double down on big name IPs and turn them into GaaS and milk them to the extreme with multiple studios focusing on specific IPs instead of creating their own games.

It was so clear with the way they keep 343 despite multiple failures and shutting down Tango even after winning awards, MS is a service provider and not a product creator, they will buy the product from others and turn it into a service.

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Hofstaderman14h ago

Ah Forbes. One of the prominent MS mouthpieces....

Luc2014h ago

Microsoft is finally... ahhh I've never heard this one before!

Petebloodyonion14h ago

LOL, this article is a big pile of dog crap...
Spencer has been constantly telling ppl that NO they would not go the route of having games like TLOU, Uncharted, etc because Playstation exists and prefers to focus on a diverse portfolio.

How many years have we seen Xbox as no game and we don't want small games like ORI, Pentiment, Grounded, etc.?

That's the real tragedy and why lots of gamers are mad at MS right now
because they have been championing smaller titles and yet fired the ppl delivering exactly what they were proning about.

So no the only nonsense is that MS seems now to be going BACK to AAA popular titles..sorry, I meant refocusing effort on core established IP where broken GAAS might be rewarded versus praised and rewarded work.

Einhander197214h ago(Edited 14h ago)

https://media1.tenor.com/m/...

You read an article cheerleading the end of big budget games and all the other articles about problems and this is what you have to say? That's what you think "the real tragedy" is?

I thought that xbox fans might finally "get it", but no, it seems they don't even understand what is happening and what is at stake.

Petebloodyonion11h ago

Please tell me what's happening and what is at stake

Since it's not big companies closing small studios, killing innovation while refocusing assets on big ongoing projects and core IP?

Let's See MS Close Tango Studio mentions that they are too thin on key project
Sony Close London Studio and make massive cuts in Firespite will reallocate resources to core project
EA will focus on Core project
Square will focus on big established IP
.....
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crazyCoconuts14h ago

Hurray! No more big gam.... wait... what??

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Sonic188119h ago(Edited 19h ago)

How is it going to sell well when it's also releasing on gamepass 🤔

Sephiroushin19h ago

Meant better to sell the studio and not closing it 🤦🏻 not to sell more games….
and games are sold anyways, you can buy it on xbox (not recommended if you got gamepass) but many pc gamers prefer to buy on steam than deal with the xbox app or pc gamepass!

On a side note to OP, the sales of studios wont happen though, especially when they want to retain the IPs, and well nobody is gonna buy a studios without its IPs; the other publishers that want a certain dev from the studio that are closing on their team can try to grab them as soon as they see they notice of the studio.

RaidenBlack17h ago(Edited 17h ago)

@Sephiroushin
Well hypothetically speaking, Ninja Theory can be sold to Sony at a lower rate sans the Hellblade IP.
Sony can then welcome them to work on the Heavenly Sword IP, which they still own.
Will be a nice proposition for Sony who can continue to offer a God of War-like hack n slash in their portfolio via Heavenly Sword 2, whilst Cory Barlog & co. decides to take a break from the God of War IP & venture some other genres.
On top of that, Ninja Theory was also interested in a sequel to Enslaved: Odyssey to the West and such Sony can come to a deal with Namco Bandai regarding the Enslaved IP.

badz1492h ago

selling the studio wouldn't be an attractive offer unless they come with their IPs. MS wants to keep these IPs, so even if MS is selling just the studio, no one would wants them

Lightning771d 13h ago

Because they're next come next year. HB2 won't hit some impossible metric within MS so they're getting axed in 2025. Leave gaming now MS.

XiNatsuDragnel1d 5h ago

Ninja theory might as well be gone in 2025 at this rate

notachance20h ago

Every xbox studio is in danger now because there’s just no way they’re gonna rake in big money from game sales because of gamepass, even CoD was rumored to not come to gamepass because it would canibalize their sales number.

neutralgamer199218h ago

If they are smart they don’t put COD on GP day one. It’s one of the best selling games on yearly basis

Hofstaderman18h ago

Satya will make sure that doesnt happen. As you rightly put it; why kill the cash cow?

But then again, it is MS after all.....

thesoftware73014h ago

I agree and disagree. They should not put it on GP, but CoD makes real money from the overpriced MTX that people buy for over a year. They also have it all linked up to the Mobile CoD, which will incentivize Twitch spending from consumers.

neutralgamer19929h ago

Software

That’s true but keep in mind COD is the best selling or top 3 selling game every year. So yes micro transactions money is there but so are billions more

They should have tiers of GP subscriptions and the higher end tier received AAA games while everyone else gets them in 60 days

MontyeKristo2h ago

Wouldn't putting it on Gamepass be smarter? Cod is typically played, I believe, for far longer than 6 months.. if you get everyone playing the game for a year, on Gamepass, you've essentially doubled your profit. $10 a month for a year $120 compared to selling the game once for $60.

Not to mention MT's, on top of it. Sell on PS5, PC and Switch, keep it on Gamepass for Xbox and PC. Much smarter in my opinion..

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-Foxtrot15h ago

Also if you punish a studio for releasing a great critically acclaimed game which won some awards then what chance does anyone have

Elda14h ago

After this mess, I highly doubt the next installment of COD will be on Gamepass day one. It'll probably land on Gamepass 6 months after release date.

Noskypeno9h ago

Like I said earlier, I wouldn't even mind. There's a good selection of games on GP already, and it gives me time to play my backlog of games while allowing the games that need to sell millions of copies to make a profit a chance to succeed, a win win scenario.

badz1492h ago

not putting CoD on GP is sort of a violation of their own marketing though. they said ALL MS 1st party games will be on GP day 1, not some. CoD is 1st party, so to not put it on GP day 1 would be considered as false marketing.

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Rynxie20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

Ninja theory games were never big sellers. I could be wrong, but I doubt hellblade 2 will sell millions. I would rather they go independent and make heavenly sword 2.

solideagle20h ago(Edited 20h ago)

heavenly sword is Sony owned IP. this will never happen as original didn't sell enough...

Wikipedia: "In 2008, it was reported that a sequel to Heavenly Sword was in-development at SCE Studio Cambridge, but was canceled due to Sony no longer seeing it as a commercially viable product"

Flewid63814h ago(Edited 14h ago)

I remember. I feel like the amount of time & technology that has passed would make a sequel a big seller now. The game has enough legacy recognition to build hype.

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