Assassin's Creed Origins Microtransactions Confirmed, Helix Credits Make a Comeback

Here we are again

[UCForce]

Knew this was coming when they announced the loot box. "Sigh"

[-Foxtrot]

ANNNNNNNNNNNNNND....completely turned off

Well done Ubisoft

*slow claps*

Oh good that's still working

[Eonjay]

This all seems so coordinated. Its like there is a group effort to hijack our hobby. I REALLY want to try this game, but I just can't support it. We aren't supporting devs when we buy this. We are only serving investors and executives who are never satisfied and always want more. It doesn't end, They even want us to think its okay to buy a $60 game with 50% of the content behind an additional monetizing system, and say "don't like it don't buy it" even though we just basically spend $60 on half a game.

[-Foxtrot]

The problem is if we don't support it they'll play the sympathy card which will fool a lot of people making us look like the bad guys

"Bu bu bu I can't feed my family"

[ThePope]

I wish they would just charge $70-$80 for the game.

[Saigon]

to think, I was going to get this game, now I am not certain...ugh!!!

[indysurfn]

Omg........i'm out.

I might buy it used and no micro transactions. Even that I might skip

Good news is I think the bad press hurt destiny 2 sales......so if it hurts this one too it will send a message loud and clear

[HaveSumNuts]

2017 the year of the loot box

[Christopher]

This is one of the key reasons I buy AC games when the gold edition hits about $30. The games aren't horrible, but I can't support day 1 full price for a SP game with microtransactions. Sure, it's an option, but it's an option I refuse to support by giving max price to the publishers.

I am hoping Far Cry remains MTs free in then upcoming game.

[UnHoly_One]

Here we go again.

"I refuse to buy something I want because they also sell something I don't want"

You know what... I'm going to stop supporting my local grocery store.

I love Miller Lite, but right there on the shelf next to it they also sell Budweiser, and I don't want that nasty beer, so I'm going to stop supporting that store. Nevermind the fact that I can continue to drink Miller Lite and the Budweiser wouldn't affect me in any way, the very fact that they dare to sell Budweiser has ruined my day, and I just won't be a party to that madness.

What the hell are they thinking? Trying to sell a product that I don't want? That's just stupid, and they should all go out of business and everyone should lose their jobs. That'll teach them. When I can't even buy Miller Lite anymore, I'll be happy knowing that I am the reason why nobody can buy anything at that store ever again. Because I was crying about them selling another product that had no effect on me at all.

[rainslacker]

Kind of a silly analogy.

I mean, Selling budweiser doesn't affect the taste of your miller lite.

A more apt analogy would be more along the lines of they sell your miller lite, but to get it's full flavor faster, you have to buy this extra flavor packet, otherwise, it takes longer for your beer to get cold...or something. Or, you pay extra for that miller lite to make you drunk faster, or pay to allow you to drink more miller lite without having to go to the bathroom as often.

Then to top it all off, they hide which extra purchase you're actually getting until you actually purchase it. So while you actually want that extra flavor packet, you actually get that thing that gets you drunk faster....which is a bummer, because you have to drive home. So you try again....but you get one that makes you not have to urinate as much....which you don't actually care about because your car already smells like urine because you happened to buy pabst blue ribbon a week prior.

[UnHoly_One]

“Selling budweiser doesn't affect the taste of your miller lite”

Exactly.

And these micro transactions don’t affect the base game.

Don’t believe all the nonsense stories you read online and try Shadow of War for yourself. I’m nearing the end, haven’t spent any money, and nothing about the game is affected as a result.

Previous AC games let you buy maps and stuff like that, none of it is ever necessary unless you just want to rush through the game and not actually play it.

These transactions are designed to sell to people that want to blow through a game as fast as possible, not the ones that just want to play and enjoy.

Seems to me that a lot of the people on this site fall into the first category, and they can’t control themselves, so they rally against the game instead of their own issues.

[moegooner88]

I was hesitated whether to get Origins or The Evil Within 2, after reading this I am so glad I went with the later.

[Ashunderfire86]

Evil Within 2 is a 7/10 and a rental at best. Save your money on Wolfenstein 2 or Mario Odyssey if you have Switch. Too many Microtransactions in games. Halo 5 and Injustice 2 had that terrible Micro crap I ignored.

[moegooner88]

I like to support SP games which offer a complete experience. I am 13 hours into the game and it is worth the full price. We can’t complain about micro transactions, then go renting games, at the very least get it digital later on when the price drops to benefit the devs.

[UltraNova]

^ this guy gets it.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Yeah right evil within 1 was def a 7 but the sequel is easily an 8.5 or 9

[Spike20XX]

this is absolute crap, don't listen to him, The Evil within 2 is one of the best Survival horror games since Silent Hill 2 came out. It's a 9/10 video game and a 10/10 survival horror.

[mafiahajeri]

And people moan when games dont get sequels. Renting, borrowing and game sharing, all of that shit hurts the industry.

I dont even enjoy my games if I dont pay for them in full, since it feels like Im cheating the devs.

[Chexs1990]

In your opinion maybe. For me, it's easily a 9/10 and worth the price of of admission. The way they blend corridor horror with "open world" survival, is really beautifully crafted. The game has issues yes, but the pros far outweighs the cons for me.
Like i told one of my friends, the game is a mix of the silent hill style atmosphere and monster design, and the Last of us hub area stealth/action survival gameplay.

[leoms]

you're reading too much into reviews, the game is better than that.

[Ashunderfire86]

Evil Within 1 other than the terrible running out of breath every minute, had more variety with traps, enemies, and horror elements than the semi open world sequel Evil within 2! Evil Within 1 is the better game, but both games are average at best. 22 disagrees would regret not buying Wolfenstein 2 or Mario Odyssey over Evil Within 2. I actually beat Evil Within 2 and they rush the F in ending! It is a poor man excused that carbon copy the Last Of Us ending to a degree! Heck the monsters move and mimic the Clickers of Last of us!

[Ashunderfire86]

moegooner88 #

Wolfenstein 2 and Mario Odyssey are %100 percent single player that is your full experience to support. Like I said in my second post. Evil Within 1 is the better game with more variety, but both games are average at best. Yes the sequel improved the running out of breath thing, but it is still not perfect, even when you level it up to the max! Evil Within 2 carbon copy elements off of Last Of Us so blatantly, I am surprise none of you pick that up from it! I personally think it didn't need open world elements, but they should of made it more like the first. They had something going on there, despite the flaws. The enemy zombies had more variety of looks, even though they attack the same way in Evil Within 1. In Evil Within 2 they were a little lazy on the variety with the same 4 or 5 looking zombies that look like Hillbillies on meth throughout the game. In the beginning where you see the mother shoving a spoon of nasty food down her sons throat, was the last time you see that type of zombie. I won't spoil the later half of the game for you, but you will see a remainder of how better the first game was. There is a lack of variety of traps and puzzles in this game. Nothing beats the first game's apartment building levels! Wow that was a big highlight of the first game! If I were to buy this game again, I would buy it at a lower price like I did with the first game.

[Seraphim]

"We can’t complain about micro transactions, then go renting games, at the very least get it digital later on when the price drops to benefit the devs."

and that my friend is a problem I've raided for years. Game sales are far too low. Granted there are the exceptions but overall games don't sell like they should. In part due to renting. With all this fuss about MTs we can't ask for no MTs but not support games in the process. End of the day this is business and if games aren't getting the sales they will scrap them. They will focus on GaaS. They will add MTs to help regain their investment, etc. If games only sold like they should perhaps we wouldn't be in this situation. Instead we get oh that doesn't have MP so I'm not buying it. Now it's oh that has MTs I'm not buying it. And on top of that it's save your money, games worth a rental. To each their own but if you value gaming you buy games. If it's not worth $60 to you wait till it's $30-40. Nowadays with Amazon it doesn't take long to catch a new/er game for $30-40 just 1-3 months after release.

[Ashunderfire86]

I absolutely agree with you on this. Too many gamers nowadays are 2 face, don't know what they really want. Just look at the game on Twitch, Youtube, or Ustream to make your decision if you want to pull the trigger, and buy the game.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Good job Ubisoft you made me turned off from this one too. Ugh sigh 😐

[MegamanXXX]

Preorder cancelled 🙌🏻

[CP_Company]

retard confirmed.

[UCForce]

Are you seriously defend the scam system ?

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Defending this are u serious

[XtaZ]

You idiots act like Ubisoft is forcing you to buy their loot boxes. Game plays perfectly fine without them.

[Nitrowolf2]

Lol thats coming from the guy who defended loot box saying it wont use real money,

http://n4g.com/news/2109387...

[UCForce]

@Xtaz I think you need to understand Publishers use microtransaction to lure younger generation in. Being called "it's optional" is wrong. So yes, microtransaction is a scam.

[Prince_TFK]

Reported.

[CP_Company]

i can see that stupidity is only value in here. if you are stupid and writing what other stupid people thinks, then you are okey in here.

[BlaqMagiq1]

When a retard calls someone else a retard

[fiveby9]

How can people fall for the argument that you don't have to buy MTs and thus that makes it alright they exist in the SP game. The game is made to encourage tedious grind to incent people to spend money on MTs. MT development cost is relatively inexpensive and thus the profit margin very high. Naturally the game balance will be skewed. These type of games are all non-purchase.

And then you get ad hominem attacks by commenters here calling people idiots. Real classy.

[RememberThe357]

Yeah of course it's everyone else. No way you could be wrong.

[isa_scout]

The answer isn't to not buy the game, its to not pay for lootboxes. If publishers keep putting them in its because people keep buying them. If a game is packed full of content why does it matter anyway? People made such a fuss about Shadow of War having microtransactions, and yet that game literally has over 100 hours of content. When I played it I completely forgot it even had lootboxes. If AC:Origins is the same way then will it even matter?

[JEECE]

My thoughts exactly. I've never been tempted to buy a lootbox using real $ in any game. I'd much rather have them in a game than have to pay for maps.

[Chocoburger]

It affects the game design. Games are all grindy filler crap these days.

Shadow of War is a perfect example, "over 100 hours of content" but its more like 100 hours of boring filler content. I've played the game for over 30 hours, and its been a boring slog, all designed to make it take longer unnecessarily so to push you towards micros.

You are the biggest problem in gaming, the ignorant gamer. You don't value intelligent or thoughtfully designed game mechanics. All you care about are pretty graphics, and "hours of content". True replay value comes from games that are replayable, not grindfests, but so few people realize this anymore.

Games used to be succinct, they used to have a beginning, a middle, and an end, without endless grinding for garbage "experience points" or "loot" (not counting JRPGs, but its an expected part of that genre). Nowadays most game developers can't make quality games that match what Nintendo has done back in the early 1990s, with Super Mario World, or the Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past.

Super Mario World doesn't need "over 100 hours of content", it needs to know when its time for it to end. Shadow of War doesn't understand this, WB doesn't understand this, Ubisoft doesn't understand this. They just make long game with awful design in a giant open world filled with boring missions and pointless collectibles. They have stories with no meaning or thoughtfulness, that have nothing to say, cutscenes for the sake of cutscenes.

Gamers should value quality over quantity. Don't give me "over 100 hours of content" which is all repetitive drivel. Give me an excellent 20 hour game, give me a game so good that I'll want to naturally replay it. This is something you don't understand, but you're not alone, most gamers these days don't know what good game design or game mechanics are anymore.

How can we expect the gaming industry to ever improve if gamers themselves can't even figure out whats wrong with gaming to being with?

[JEECE]

@Chocoburger

It sounds like you just don't like RPGs. As you noted yourself, grinding has been a part of JRPGs forever, even back in the glorious 1990s when everything was wonderful. Why is it okay for JRPGs to have level-grinding, but it isn't for western games? While I agree with you that the 12-25 hour game experiences are more fun, my opinion isn't fact. Some people like to grind through random encounters over and over to level up and get new gear. I fail to see how that makes them the terrible, ignorant people you seem to think they are. It just means they like different things than I (and apparently you) do.

[isa_scout]

@Chocoburger You ever heard of RPGs? Grinding is something that is part of the core gameplay in games like RuneScape and Diablo, both of which are old franchises. I've been playing video games since I was old enough to hold an Atari joystick in my hand yet you talk about the old days like repetitive grinding hasn't been there since gaming became popular decades ago. I can understand that you didn't like Shadow of War, all I'm saying is lootboxes don't change the core game experience in certain games. I don't like lootboxes in general so I don't buy them ,but Shadow of War is a perfect example of a game where lootboxes didn't negatively impact the game. It plays exactly like Mordor with the same gameplay loop and mission design. I wasn't arguing that Shadow of War was a great game only that lootboxes didn't negatively impact the way it was played. That is all I care about....Gameplay. Games are not ALL filler crap either. Zela:BotW,Horizon,South Park,Last of Us, Skyrim, I could go on and on.

[UnHoly_One]

Chocoburger, it sounds to me like you just don't like the game, which has nothing to do with lootboxes.

I've been playing Shadow of War for almost 60 hours. I'm level 51 I think, and about to go into what appears to be the final mission, but I know it actually is just the transition to the final act.

I haven't bought a single loot box, just a few XP boosts with the gold I acquired from playing the game normally. I haven't needed to.

And the game has been super fun the whole time.

[MrSwankSinatra]

lmaooo yeah this is getting no buy from me, to think i was actually defending ubisoft yesterday saying they weren't trying to improve their image to gamers. I was wrong, sorry but this ain't getting any money from me.

[TheVetOfGaming]

I remember seeing you say that. I won't be giving them a penny. Last game I bought new from them was far cry 3.

[MrSwankSinatra]

I haven't bought an ubisoft game since watch dogs.

[i3eyond the Circle]

They were useless in Syndicate.. it only sped up the process for i guess impatient people that have never played AC

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Exactly I love all the fake outrage going on right because it's the cool thing to do to fit in with the faceless mob on the internet whilst completely ignoring the fact helix credits have been in every ac game since the beloved black flag

[Mikelarry]

They were this close to getting a sale from me.... Ah well I can now say I am done with the franchise brotherhood was the last AC I played

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Helix credits have been in every ac game since black flag what's with all the fake outrage now. They are used to buy those stupid little time saver packs

[Dark_Knightmare2]

Got to love getting downvotes for stating facts

[Spike20XX]

if they're useless, then why put them in there in the first place and make themselves get a bad image?
They're greedy f$cks and not ashamed of it.

[Dark_Knightmare2]

@spike20xx because their worthless to us but there's people out there who don't have a lot of gaming time who buy them or other people who just for some reason find value in them.

[BenjaMan64]

Did you read my mind?! Right now I'm skimming through this comment section, reading just the comments with plenty of downvotes.

But yes, getting downvotes in this site, at least in articles like this, seems to be a badge of honor.

[Interloper]

Loot boxes aren't going to kill the industry. The consumer who doesn't understand how much money is involved in creating these "AAA" games are.

[Prince_TFK]

"The consumer who doesn't understand how much money is involved in creating these "AAA" games are."

Actually we do understand. That is why we pay them $60 upfront for their games no question ask. The only time we question is when they try to fuck us and our money over, even after we pay them.

Sure, MT is not needed to advance the game. But the fact that it is there, waiting for you to buy it and if you don't, punish you by making you grind doesn't stand well with gamers, espcially when games like Horizon, Witchers 3, and BOTW had none of that bullshit.

I bet that you are the kind of baby whale that companies like Ubisoft are looking for.

[BlaqMagiq1]

That is a very dumb statement. Games like The Witcher 3 and Horizon Zero Dawn prove that MTs are not necessary to be successful. If you think MTs are needed to sustain the industry then you really don't understand how business works.

[Tru_Blu]

They make plenty of money, the devs need to go to the publishers and ask for a raise if they need one. EA, Activision ect aren't hurting for money buddy.

[NovusTerminus]

They also confirmed loot boxes could be purchased via normal means. Really they are here to stay, but as long as they dont contain exclusive items or require MT money, i don't mind.

The worst ones are from CS:Go where you can get them for free but you HAVE to buy the unlock keys for cash.

[Palitera]

Same lie every single time. Naive people will always fall for it.

Sale scheme afterwards:
1. Loot rates are adjusted so great loot is absurdly rare and sparse.
2. The loot boxes you can buy with ingame currency are ridiculously bad and useless. "Common" box vs "legendary" box.
3. The game progression starts nice and then slows drastically midgame, as in any F2P game.

Seriously, I'm stating obvious and common facts here. It amazes me how people can be so dumb to not realize it for themselves.

"It doesn't affect you" pffft

[XiNatsuDragnel]

Thank you this BS has to stop

[NovusTerminus]

I'm not saying i agree with it being there, and i refuse to buy them, but so long as they don't make them have exclusive items, I don't mind grinding.

Should they be there? No. But after Overwatch, CS:GO, Mass Effect, and numerous other games used them with no public backlash and they made money, of course they would find their way in other games.

[Fishy Fingers]

Oh no. Just like the last few AC games....

[datriax]

Lost me a Ubisoft, much less any loot crate / credits bulls**t. I think the last game Ubi made that I gave a rat's a** about, was likely BG&E.

Not sure how this company is still in business really. Oh wait, ya I am, plenty of morons out there to throw their money at them.

Must be nice to be completely and obliviously stupid, and be entertained by the equivalent of paint drying, all the while being siphoned for more money.

Ignorance truly is bliss I guess.

[GamingCentaur]

Duh.

[opinionated]

I knew it was coming when they announced random loot. It’s the only reason they would have added that. I know and I don’t care because I’m not buying any.

[TimelessDbz]

You guys had no intention what so ever in buying the game. Micro transactions have been AC for awhile you were just looking for a reason not to buy it. If you feel $60 is not worth the purchase just say that and wait for a sale.

[TheVetOfGaming]

I stopped buying from them years ago. More because all of there games started lacking originality, and seemed like all there games follow the exact same formula.

[Matrix6]

I'm knee deep in Bloodborne anyway.

[stupidusername]

Disappointed to hear this as it was heavily rumpred u could only buy loot boxes with in game currency. I guess their loop hole was that if people buy in-game currency with real money people can still only buy loot boxes with in-game currency.

If the game gets stellar reviews and the experience is not affected by loot boxes then I'll buy it. If not I'll definitely pass.

[bigmalky]

Can't help feeling that EA, 2K, Ubisoft, Microsoft and Activision sat down at a table this year and agreed that it was about time they saw how far they could go to fuck customers out of their money.

Hope you all lose.

[Psychotica]

So they sat down together about adding things that are not required? I doubt it..

[bigmalky]

Really? Okay, believe what you want. Funny how in the space of a few months, every AAA publisher has these things pushed to their maximum potential.

[Edito]

It's Ubisoft what to expect? They are doing what they do best putting garbage on the market i jus hope vivendi buy them out sooner than later.

[syndrandi]

This is why you never pre-order Ubisoft games

[senorfartcushion]

Buying this preowned, thanks

[Chaosdreams]

This recent bombardment of MT's has been making it easier for me to ignore games that have them and focus on the ones I appreciate/respect/love.

So there's that. Lol.

[81BX]

Confirmed Day 1! Don't care because I don't need the credits to play the game. Getting that steel book too!

[Psychotica]

Yeah so? It didn't mean a thing in AC:Syndicate either. AC:Origins is going to be an awesome game, I am even taking a vacation day on Friday to play it.

[Nodoze]

AAA Gaming is officially DEAD. They have signed their own death warrants with this crap, and it is now a matter of time.

[yomfweeee]

I hope all you babies are ready to not play very many games in the future. All the big companies are doing it and it isn't going to go away.

These existed in previous games and were completely optional and not needed in the slightest, so stop crying.

[XiNatsuDragnel]

I'm buying dragonball fighterz, dissadia final fantasy nt and a lot more japanese games since those have no MTs.

[Pancit_Canton]

Assassin's Creed Origins: Microtransactions

I didn't know they changed the title. I like it .lol

[OffRoadKing]

So we're all supposed to hate this game now right, cause we hate Microtransactions, we still doing that?

[porter470]

I did read it would have your time saver transactions but what could you need $50 worth for.

[Oninioh]

Pass then. I don't garbage I'm afraid. And thank baby jezuz I'm smart enough to vote with my wallet.

[zaherdab]

I don't see the big fuss if the game us totally playable without microtransactions and thry are not mandatory for enjoyment so be it ... i would be more worried on whether thr game is actually fun or just another assassin's creed with he "been there, done that quite a few times already" feel ....

[Bleucrunch]

Ubisoft, I will not purchase your game now. Thank you!

[inxine]

well to be fair, the assassins creed series has kind of been boring after 3 anyways. i hope this trend will end soon, im already picky about buying a brand new games cause of how expensive they are.

[ocelot07]

O well another title ill buy second hand. Since 2014 I didn't buy any second hand games. Always bought digitally or bought the more expensive Gold Edition's or Deluxe Edition's that come with extras and the season pass.

This year due to crappy micro transactions and gambling boxes. I have had to resort to buying second hand (only games that have paid for loot boxes and shoddy MT). Games such as Horizon and GT Sport, Dishonoured 2, Doom, Dead by Day light, Ark Survival Evolved, Telltail games, Resident Evil 7, Zelda Breath of the Wild, Nioh I bought brand new and sealed as they don't try and squeeze every penny out of you.

Games that I have bought second hand or plan on buying second hand due to greedy micro transactions or loot boxes or both. Shadow Of War, Deus Ex, Assassin's Creed Origins, Battlefront 2, NBA 2K18, PES 2018. Forza 7 would be on this list. But since PC games can't be bought second hand (unless I go the g2a rout) I simply won't be playing this.

[r3f1cul]

ive already skipped out on dozens of MP oriented titles because of this shit ... now i even have to refuse SP titles because this model is cancer... i used to think there was a time when i would never stop gaming, sadly it seems my mind is being made for me slowly but surely :(

[enigmaticheretic]

Here the thing, you don't have to buy them. It seems people forget that you don't have to buy anything loot box microtransactions. Just play the damn game and enjoy it, if you want to use mircotransactions that's on you and no one else.

[TheDarkArtisan]

Sly and devious in not clearly stating that loot boxes and, more so a loot box orientated currency would be in the game, until just before launch. So typical and sums up the greedy mentality of Electronic Arts.. loot boxes are an unwanted cancer in expensive to buy AAA single player titles.

[Gh05t]

This looks like sarcasm but I cant tell... I really hope it is because its on point!

[BenjaMan64]

Well, as long as we can progress through the game without having to buy microtransactions, fine. I just finished Shadow of War's Act IV today, getting the true ending / epilogue, and I didn't have to spend a single real dollar on any loot box.

And yes, previous AC games have had microtransactions before, and they didn't hinder my progress through Black Flag or Syndicate.

[BIGBOSS08]

Whether you buy the game or not, this is going to keep happening. It's like it's being slowly imposed on developers from people who are higher up and theres nothing that can be done about it.

[DrShoe]

Thanks Ubisoft, you just saved me $60. I won't buy this.

[XxINFERNUSxX]

That's nice, incoming PC torrent preorder with all DLC included :D Let the down votes begin lol

[No Way]

Maybe I'll just get it other ways, then.. I sure as hell ain't giving you money to support this idea.

Thanks, though. Pass.