Eidos Expands on Extended Chapters

Tombraiderchronicles.com reports:
The announcement by Eidos to produce extended chapters exclusively for owners of Microsoft's Xbox 360 video-games console has been met with mixed reaction, especially from those planning to steer Lara Croft through her latest adventure on one of the additional five platforms being catered for. We checked in with Eidos who shed some light on the decision.

[LightningPS3]

Tomb Raider sux balls

[Rick Astley]

Couldn't agree more. There hasn't been a DECENT Tomb Raider game since the very first one on PS1 LOL!

[PirateThom]

I dunno, Rick, I quite liked II and III.

Then again, I was 12 when III came out. ;)

[morganfell]

I don't screw with these companies anymore. I can buy any number of titles I want. That isn't bragging, it's just a fact from having played my cards correctly. That's an old one but it is the one I have on file.

http://i39.photobucket.com/...

I have about 15-20 titles preordered or paid off at any one time. But when a company does something like this in the middle of a game heavy season I just scratch my order. There are too many titles coming this fall. I just canceled my TomRaider order today and kicked it over to Endwar.

[Max Power]

have to scratch Tiberium from that list as well.

EDIT: to below, well thats good, it is still a nice list.

[morganfell]

Yeah I know. As I said it is an older list. I have added a few reservations, picked up an item or two as well. They have also shifted dates on a few. I also reserved the new PSP that I will be picking up as well.

The idea I put forth stands as the fact remains there are just too many good games coming this fall to give away money to Eidos for TR. Let MS pay them.

[DaTruth]

Just give me Tomb Raider 2 downloadable from PSN that I can play on my PSP and forget Tomb Raider forever!

[BattleAxe]

Clearly Microsofts strategy is to dump most of its internel game studios and buy exclusive games and DLC content. After Banjo it will be interesting to see if they dump Rare.

[Bnet343]

Fake. Look at who submitted it, and click on link. He changed the title.

[TheDude2dot0]

That could just be a coincidence...

[Baba1906]

i enjoyed legends and anniversary very much. so im pretty excited about this one.

[uie4rhig]

everybody knew this..

/sarcasm :P

seriously tho.. both sony and MS should stop with these exclusive DLC and these companies should stop accepting this deal.. coz first of al, they get more.. and its unfair to the gamers, not everybody gets the full experience

[gaffyh]

Tomb Raider is going to be crap anyway, why would you buy DLC for a game that will most likely suck? Also MS needs this game more than Sony, cos Uncharted is much better (you can tell just by looking at gameplay vids of Tomb Raider), so MS needs it's own Uncharted, Tomb Raider is the closest thing to that.

Though I would like to say, MS don't waste your money on crap games like this!!!

[XboxOZ360]

Unfortunately mate, Tiberium has been canceled as a stand-alone game and will not be made or developed further. Sadly. It was shaping up to be a top looking game. http://planetcnc.gamespy.co...

On a second note, the article that this belongs to says nothing about how much MS paid for the Exclusive content and merely reiterates the fact that MS asked how they could extend the gameplay for XboxLIVE users, and the two chapters were the result.

"Microsoft asked us how we could extend the fantastic Tomb Raider: Underworld gameplay experience, exclusively, for their thriving Xbox Live community and these two new downloadable chapters were the result." says Eidos, who also confirm there are no plans for additional downloadable content for PS3. .... "Both extended chapters feature individual storylines, based in different environments and with very different mission objectives and gameplay. They are linked to Underworld, they take place following events that occur during Underworld. "

And naturally, any company asking another to produce content that would otherwise NOT be made, would have to pay for that content to be made. As you can see, if anyone read it, is that it is not simply the end of the game with something tacked on, but TWO separate chapters, the second one having a separate playable character, Lara's Shadow . . .

SO naturally, Edios are not going to spend a few more Mill on making additional content unless they get suitably rewarded for their efforts. Now if anyone says that it should be for free, and that all platforms should have it, they obviously have never been in, or are in any form of business, nor dealt with production business of this sort.

It's simply sour-grapes based on the fact that MS ask first for some exclusive content before Son=y did.

You can be sure that Sony will be looking at other MP games that they might well have additional content, they have done so already, so why the complaining. They have done with Mirror's Edge, they basically beat MS to the punch.

This time MS beat Sony to the line with Tomb Raiders, so stop the whinging and complaining, it reaks of immaturity big time.

Sure, be unhappy, even disgruntled, I am about Mirror's Edge, but I understand Sony did it for a reason, and applaud them for getting in before MS did. Serves MS" right for not acting quick enough. But this is how business works these days, get used to it, or get out of the kitchen . . .

Sony would have to do the same (pay for the content) if they asked Edios to do it before MS did, as would Nifty Nintendo. Don't go thinking that it's a conspiracy to hoodwink gamers. It's simple business matters that anyone in business know.

You want content, you pay for it, simple as that. Be that Sony, MS or Nintendo

[CyberCam]

You're right and I do agree with what you said, but I also agree with morganfell(1.3). Being a PS3 owner, I don't want partial experience, I want the complete gaming experience without having to buy another console. So I will opt to not buy this game because there are just too many other complete games being released around the time frame. No big deal, my measly single copy is not going make or break the game sales. Enjoy the game!

[Silogon]

GASP! No, they couldn't... they wouldn't have!! Please, was there any doubt? Microsoft would make a lousy country leader if all they ever did was pay off the enemy.

[Breakfast]

:)

[thebudgetgamer]

:)

[sonarus]

Nice to know ensemble money was used to purchase tomb raider dlc and demo:D

I love microsoft let me run off and hug my new 360 while my ps3 is at the shop:D

[NegativeCreep427]

Like I've said before, Microsoft is like a totally retarded rich boy that goes off to college and that can't get anything done on his own, so he instead has to pay off other smart students to do his homework for him so he'll still get good grades.

[JasonXE]

of course steve will say that..hello!! That's like ps fanboys posting on n4g saying how the 360 suxs...oh wait. Another thing is check the actual story title and story itself. The story title was changed from the orginal story and it mentions no where that ms paid for it.

FACEPALM to ps n4g trolls.

[thebudgetgamer]

your pretty quick to throw that word around you don't know me.
Anyways I put it up for laughs and i thought it was apt to the story. So don't be hyper defensive play the games you like and relax.

Happy Gaming :)

[tigerstyle]

LULLLLLLZ.

You Fail.
True that microsoft have no original stuff to offer. Same old garbage windows with different colors.

[GiantEnemyCrab]

Yes, how dare they give the owners of their platform exclusive content!

I guess $ony has no shame as well since they are doing it for Mirrors Edge eh?

Anyway, nowhere does it confirm MS paid for anything, the only thing confirmed is Internet Trolling Expert has now expanded his bullsh*t beyond just trolling every single 360 article and now is submitting news stories with his fake titles that fit his agenda.

[300]

This article is in the PS3 and 360 sections, no one is trolling, it free for owners of both consoles to comment, or don’t you understand the concept of an internet forum?

Nothing wrong with exclusive content. Sony’s 1st party titles are exclusive to them, and M$ pay developers for exclusive content to Multi-platform games. You say nowhere does it confirm MS paid for anything.

Hmm, i imagine the talk between MS and Eidos went something like this.

Microsoft Rep to Eidos “hello, I’m from Microsoft and we have a proposal for you.”

Eidos “Yes, whats that.”

Microsoft, “we want exclusive add-ons for your new Tomb Raider game, exclusive to the 360 of course.”

Eidos, “Thats sounds like something we could do, ok let talk terms and cost.”

Microsoft, “Oh no, we’re not gonna pay for it, we want you to do it for nothing, just because you like us so much.”

Eidos, “of course we’ll do it for nothing, we’ll put all our resources, hours of work etc into it, just because your so nice. It’s not like we’re running a business or anything. Money, (slaps forehead), what a silly suggestion.”

Microsoft, “thank you very much.”

End Sarcasm.

Really, do you think they just bribed Eidos with a lolly pop?

[lelo]

@Breakfast "Confirmed: MS has no shame"

Mirror's Edge has DLC for the PS3... so i guess...

Confirmed: SONY has no shame.

[XboxOZ360]

Simply another disgruntled Sony fans, but I bet you weren't saying the same thing when Sony nabbed Exclusive DLC on Mirror's Edge etc. no, didn't think so.

So it's okay if Sony does it, but not if MS does it, after all, MS is the devil - isn't it . . come on, how old are you . . act mature if you want to be treated with maturity. Business is business, and both Sony and Ms will be looking at securing different levels of exclusive DLC in the future, it's just how they are doing it now-days.

[300]

XboxOZ360 please make clear who your replying too, your comments seem to be directed at me.

I'll say again, "Nothing wrong with exclusive content. Sony’s 1st party titles are exclusive to them, and Microsoft pay developers for exclusive content".

Yes, Mirrors Edge has exclusive content paid for by Sony, nothing wrong, I'll repeat, NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT. Its OK if Sony does it and its OK if MS does to IMO, perhaps you should read someones comments and comprehend their point before you talk about maturity. The article didn't state money was paid by MS, even though MS approached Eidos. Its pretty certain money was involved, this is business after all, they wouldn't go to such lengths as to produce DLC content for the 360 unless the almighty dollar was waved in front of them.

Edit: Sorry XboxOZ360, just read your comment further down below, which states pretty much what i just said, guess your comment was aimed at someone else.

[Deviant]

MS doesnt care about developing any new ips. Their only goal is to buy all the ps3 third party exclusives.
Sad...:(

[Megatron08]

If you were smart enough to actually read you know that it doesnt say MS paid them anything but hey why let little things like facts get in the way of your fanboy spin

[NegativeCreep427]

"Microsoft asked us how we could extend the fantastic Tomb Raider: Underworld gameplay experience, EXCLUSIVELY, for their thriving Xbox Live community and these two new downloadable chapters were the result."

Yeah, and you yourself wouldn't let a little thing like opening you're eyes and actually reading every word in every sentence in the entire article get in the way of you're delusional B.S.

[theEnemy]

Confirmed: Megatron08 = Megaidiot.

[iHEARTboobs]

It's confirmed in each thread. haha

[DaTruth]

lololololololololololololololo lolol!!!!!!!

[Megatron08]

NegativeCreep427 its amazing that you can actually quote something and still not know what its says.

"Microsoft asked us how we could extend the fantastic Tomb Raider: Underworld gameplay experience, EXCLUSIVELY, for their thriving Xbox Live community and these two new downloadable chapters were the result."

where is the word PAID in that ?

of its a waste of time to write things for fanboys when fanboys are to stupid to know how to read

[Menchi]

You're not seriously that deluded, are you?

So, Microsoft went to Eidos, asked to do exclusive content, essentially, a bunch more work, for free, did they?

You actually believe Eidos decided to do -extra work- for Microsoft alone, out of the goodness of their hearts? O_o;

My God.

[theEnemy]

So, Eidos is making Microsoft an exclusive DLC that is worth 6 hours of gameplay that will be made by 20-30 developers/designers that Eidos will obviously pay for their hours.

And not to mention a very high chance of many PS3-only gamers not to buy this game (Like what I'm gonna do) cause they feel like they will be buying an incomplete game for $60.

Very nice logic sir.

[XboxOZ360]

Of course MS paid, but the article is in no way saying how much it paid, simply that it did ask Edios to make special content for the game that only XboxLIVE users could get, and that would extend the game rather than simply add some extra bits-n-pieces to it.

I'm a MS fan, hence the name and website, but MS do pay for things and so do other companies, Sony included. Don't be too blinded by support for a platform to think no one does. It's a business from all sides, and Edios would not make two extra chapters, and additional playable character all for nothing . .

The second DLC will add an additional 6 hours of game play, almost a complete small game, so it will require money to have that made, without question.

And while I do support MS through my choice, I do not like MS Corp per-se', never have, never will. But I do have some respect for the original guys who started up the Xbox Platform (1st Gen Xbox) and started the whole deal of XboxLIVE and the 360 way back as early as 2001/2.

However, their teams are splitting of late and their ethos is changing, but at least there are still gamers in the main teams that have some control of the platform - at the moment. When Ed Fries left, there was a whole to fill that not many could, and it was his enthusiasm, his development skills and game design skills that helped the platform succeed. Not MS Corp.

[Megatron08]

XboxOZ360 I never said they didnt pay for it I said it doesnt say they paid for it. So you cant assume that they did when you have no idea of the business arrangement that was made. A pay off isnt the only kind of business arrangement that can be made and its not alway the best one. 360 owners still have to pay for all for the DLC so its not like eidos doesnt make money off it. They could also be working the new xbox experience in the DLC and maybe its just not possible to port that to the ps3 at all

[jay2]

Well dur. This is MS.

[Internet Trolling Ex]

I hope the US Economy destroys microsoft :)

[IP BAN THIS JERK]

EVERYONE REPORT THIS IDIOT AS OFFENSIVE.

EVERY COMMENT ON ALL OF HIS ACCOUNTS.

THE MODS WILL GET SICK OF THE ALL THE REPORTS AND IP BAN HIM FOR GOOD.

[Killjoy3000]

I knew it from the start. It's funny how they're not talented enough to make their own games, so they pay everyone else for exclusivity and DLC.

[trovon]

I didn't see where in the article that Eidos stated that Microsoft paid for DLC. Maybe I missed it?

[Megatron08]

nope you didnt miss a thing

[Halochampian]

apparently people don't know that (asked for) =/= (paid for).

[maggotmx]

do you guys really think that just by asking nicely a company would be willing to screw over their costumers and potentially hurt themselves in sales from said costumers? seriously... seriously.... you guys would make terrible company owners =)

[Real Gambler]

Let me see:

Microsoft: Can you give us exclusive dlc content for free?

Eidos: Sure, we will put 40 programmers on the job right away for totally nothing. They will work on your DLC instead of working on our future product so you can make more money and we don't.

Microsoft: Thank you. Now, let's call the next dev and see if they can make more DLC for us for free.

Wake up and smell the beans Halochampian. Those programmers, artists, etc, cost a lot of money. And quite often exclusive DLC means less sales from the other platform.

[Halochampian]

Edios will still make money off of it. Every time someone downloads the extra content, they will make money.

All I said was that people cant tell the difference. This is obviously not confirmed and shouldn't be news because people like you like to make assumptions.

[Ju]

Eidos must have known this will alienate (parts) of theirPS3 customers. Obviously they think they can recoup that thru DLC. Now, I am wondering, wouldn't they make even more money by selling that to their PS3 customers as well, well, except ... I leave the rest to your imagination. Take a guess.

[XboxOZ360]

Of course it is news, and it has been confirmed as happening, we ran an article on it yesterday when it became known that there would be two DLC chapters - remember!

SO it IS news, but the article its self says nothing new as such, simply that the website asked if it was true, and Edios confirmed that MS had asked for additional content.

And naturally, being a business, they (MS or Sony for that matter) would have to pay for it if they wanted it. Especially when one of those chapters ads and additional 6 hours of game play (Lara's Shadow).

Don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing you, I support MS Xbox-Div as well (not MS Corp), but I do know what is news, what is business and what should be openly discussed on any site, and this is basically news worthy in its own right.

[Aclay]

Of course Microsoft paid for it because Microsoft is the king of 3rd party spending.

Of all games to buy DLC for, I think that Tomb Raider Underworld was really a waste it because I really think that Tomb Raider Underworld will fly under the radar this Fall for all systems including the Xbox 360.

The only reason why I think Microsoft went after Tomb Raider Underworld DLC is because Tomb Raider was a game franchise that started on the Playstation consoles. Uncharted Drakes Fortune is a better action/adventure game than Tomb Raider in my opinion anyways, and that game is only on the PS3.

[Johnny Rotten]

"Microsoft asked us how we could extend the fantastic Tomb Raider: Underworld gameplay experience for their thriving Xbox Live community and this exclusive content was the result."

Guess I wont be thriving, I'm looking forward to playing this game but it's still only a rental.

[hunter21]

hahaha typical MS.

[etownone]

great to see MS is using the funds from LIVE to secure exclusive DLC on multi-plats.

Thank you MS!!

[silverchode]

or the money the saved by getting rid of ensemble. :)

[dukadork]

it is refreshing to see people so happy to get screwed XD
thanks for paying guys, we really appreciate, let us know when you run out of lube, we'll be happy to contribute

BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA HA HA!!!

[ThatCanadianGuy]

It's nice to see Sony funding there army of first party dev's to give us Exclusive Games.

Thank you Sony!

[etownone]

happy to get screwed?

you do know I own a 360, right?

I didn't have to pay 600 for a blu ray player to have it drop 200 off the price within it's first year...

and I'm not the one thats going to be missing out on the exclsuive DLC for the biggest games released this year, GTA4 and Fallout 3..

and i'm not the one stuck with horrible ports of some of the highest rated games this gen, Bioshock and Half-Life 2

and i'm not the one that bought a PS3 for GTA4 to later find out it runs subHD with no AA compared to the 360 HD version with 2XAA.

hahahahaha
hahahahaha

nice try KID, try again

[likedamaster]

I would think anyone would be happy to see EVERYONE playing the game they like. It's a shame. Also, this article reeks of fanboy flame.

[ICUP]

"I didn't have to pay 600 for a blu ray player to have it drop 200 off the price within it's first year..."

I rather spend a little more money on high quality console then being one the victim of RROD.

"and I'm not the one thats going to be missing out on the exclsuive DLC for the biggest games released this year, GTA4 and Fallout 3.."

played GTA4 on ps3 and the game is f@ckin' boring and i'm a big fan of GTA series, Fallout 3 exclsuive DLC also on PC.

"and i'm not the one stuck with horrible ports of some of the highest rated games this gen, Bioshock and Half-Life 2"

played on PC.

[juuken]

Hey, loser...Microsoft is screwing you over as a consumer. You have to pay extra for that DLC along with the game. Oh, and the PS3 is between $399.99-499.99 right now. I would rather have a system like that and not worry about if it'll survive a next day, then to pack my console up in a box every five seconds to the repair shop. :x

[dukadork]

nice tits sweety :)

"I didn't have to pay 600 for a blu ray player to have it drop 200 off the price within it's first year..."

my bluray player has better games than your aging toaster which BTW has dropped even more in price, and at least, I don't have to pay for online: OWNED

"and I'm not the one thats going to be missing out on the exclsuive DLC for the biggest games released this year, GTA4 and Fallout 3.."

oh sh!t, GTA4 and Fallout3 DLC? big f@ckin yawn.
you're the one who missed out on MGS4, GT5P, wipeoutHD and is about to miss out on LBP, resistance2 and killzown2...
stick your paid DLC up your pu$$y, I'll watch ya and have a wank :)
oh wait... you're gonna stick it on that $190 HDD add on instead, lol!

"and i'm not the one stuck with horrible ports of some of the highest rated games this gen, Bioshock and Half-Life 2"

I don't give a Biofock, although I rented both games on my PC: meh... but at least they looked better than on the 360, HA!

"and i'm not the one that bought a PS3 for GTA4 to later find out it runs subHD with no AA compared to the 360 HD version with 2XAA."

riiight, you're the one who bought a subHD version with popups and tearing and tries to forget that the ps3 version looked better

kiss kiss darling ;)

[thatCanadianguyisgay]

It's nice to see Sony in my butthole.

[GameDev]

stfu you pendejo and go play with your blow up girlfriend.

[thatCanadianguyisgay]

UM sorry but i am not your dear
and besides my doll is busted, need a new one.

have fun with your 2 bubbles I like my 5 bubbles. u jealous?

[shadowghost752]

Funny etownone
isn't it

how M$ everlasting pot of money couldn't secure exclusive dlc for Mirror's Edge?

Which will be better than tomb raider

[paracardium]

Bribing everyone is The American away for everything, Should be no surprise.

[GameDev]

the one bribing people with what is practically monopoly money or the ones accepting it?

[ChanDangle]

Is anyone else surprised? :rolls eyes:

[Daver]

yea loll its was obvious, they always pay for everything

Personnaly, well i was not getting tomb raider before the news anyway but i dont mind about DLC, when i finish a game, its done and i prefer spending my money on something new (theres some exception but not many)

[Rockstar]

/sarc

I'd be surprised if they didn't pay out.

[MvmntInGrn]

what a bad game to pay for...

Let's see, Mirror's Edge or Tomb Raider

oh this is hard...not

[Rhezin]

who cares at least they can afford it. UNLIKE sony who are so stingy to consumers, that they couldn't pay enough to hold on to one of sony's most beloved exclusive franchises. FFXIII. Awww still butt-hurt about that? Along with many other sony exclusives we have now. Hey trollin expert, that'll never happen. The US economy will eat you up before it does Microsoft.

[Jerkapotamus]

How ever will I find an action-puzzle third-person shooter jungle game on the PS3? Oh wait, a better one came out last year named Uncharted.

[likedamaster]

...was indeed a good game, if not a ripoff of Tomb Raider. It had a lot of good things going for it. We played it, got 1000 achievement points(yes it does) for it. But guess what? We also moved on. Sorry, it was pretty and I played it twice but there are more good action games out there. Hello new Lara Croft, bye bye Uncharted.

[pixelsword]

...and not see the outright clone of kill.switch aka Gears of War.

[FwanK]

Microsoft? nah i dont believe it :rolls eyes:

[SyphonFilter]

First of all they did not say MS paid. 2nd who cares if they did,it shows they want more content for their fans and it's a smart business move. They made new ips and will come out will more like alan wake,gears,ninja blade,etc

[silverchode]

and..........

[TheColbertinator]

lol I stopped caring for Tomb Raider games long ago.Especially after the crappy Angel of Darkness for PS2.Sorry Tomb Raider but Fable 2 and Resistance 2 have my attention instead.

[DaTruth]

Angel of Darkness, that was the piece of crap that officially ended my Tomb Raider excursions.

[TheColbertinator]

I agree.With Angel of Darkness everything was broken.The camera,attacks,graphics,blech!

What a crap game and to ruin an entire series for me is unforgivable

[J@D]

Can I said... DUH! ^^

[Kevin McCallister]

Why would they put money into Tomb Raider when there are much better and more deserving 360 titles out there that could use some extra content? No one is going to buy this game.

[poopsack]

now the dlc thing is pretty obvious i mean they wouldnt have just said "hey lets make dlc exclusive to 360 for no good reason" but demo exclusivity? thats just plain stupid. now demos are exclusive?

[Max Power]

from that fact that FFXIII demo is included with the FFVII:AC blu-ray release.

[Alex_Mexico]

You're forgetting that we still have absolutely NO FFXIII running on the 360 yet so thats why we will have no FFXIII demo on 360 at the same time the PS3 will have it. Thats different than MS paying for a demo exclusive.
This strategy can harm maybe as much as help. I, for one, was going to buy Tomb Raider Underworld PS3 since I loved Legends but this makes me feel like a second rate costumer to EIDOS making me feel like Im not having the complete game or, worse yet, that they blatantly cut the game just to sell the ending on exclusive DLC on a console I dont own. And even now I wont even be able to try and see if I canc hange my opinion with a demo?
Good grief, no $60 from me. I like the 360 and Microsoft but i fu**** HATE Microsoft's modus operandi with a passion.

[joeynox]

good job for ms.I have no probs with them buying dlc.Sony does the same and if nintendo had online like ms and sony they would do the same.Dlc is the new exclusivity for games .Buy it or lose

[Jecht]

Can you show me a link please that names a game in which Sony bought exclusive DLC for a multiplatform game? Thanks.

**EDIT** Nevermind. Mirror's Edge.

[DJ]

DEMO for a multiplatform title exclusive to their system? What next, make the game manual exclusive as well?

[LinuxGuru]

No, they'll have an exclusive special font in the game manual that only people who love microsoft can read.

I heard what the font is called.

"Stupid"

[MvmntInGrn]

At this point why even bother having it on ps3, who would buy a TR game (with its history) without a demo.

This would make sense with other games not with TR.

[Max Power]

that there is still rental places out there.

[xg-ei8ht]

Ms already lost and are in a panic.

Hence buying d/l content, gta d/l will fail, and tr d/l will fail.

New I.P' are the way forward, If they weren't you'd all been playing the same old games year on year.

MS - Your dropping the ball, Not that you ever had it. Losers

[Halochampian]

Open zone is that way ====>

I like how you also have that Crystal ball saying how all this content is a failure. Maybe you should use that ball for something useful...

[LinuxGuru]

*watches microsoft hand out checks to devs and publishers*

Yep, nothing has changed.

[Oner]

I have a question. Is it me or does it seem like MS is buying this "additional content" because it won't fit on a DL DVD whereas it would have fit on a BD? Understand where I am getting at? For some reason I think this is MS's way of working around devs not being happy with the limited disc space of the 360. So MS pays company A ~ X amount to then also charges their own customers to make up for what might have been exclusive content for the BD version?...I know it may sound "conspiracy" laden but I have been wondering this for a while now. I dunno, either way at least there is more content available in some way.

[SyphonFilter]

lol sony fanboys are here crying and disagreeing. go see movies on your movie player,sony paid for gta last gen and many games over teh apst 10 years.

[LinuxGuru]

Unfortunately, GTA wasn't the sole determinant of PS2's reign over the other consoles last gen.

However this gen...Microsoft buys out people in obvious efforts to put themselves ahead of the competition.

So far, it isn't working well.

[MvmntInGrn]

Pay for games if you want, its part of the industry but do it with games that matter, and not with games with a bad history.

As for the demo, that is just plain stupidity on Eidos part.

This looks bad on Eidos more than MS.

[CViper]

I know its a empty holiday for 360 fans, but come on. No one on this site cared about TombRaider until the DLC articles, and even those are just sad.

MS buying off people that were already going to buy the game on the 360.. lol.. wow?

[zypher]

"teh apst 10 years"

are those Klingon years or something?

[Marceles]

How can you not like TR2? The Venice level with the boat was epic. After 2, then I agree lol...

[DaTruth]

TR2 was awesome start to finish. Sony please put TR2 on PSN, I must have this game on my PSP.

[air1]

how can ppl be mad that micro buy's exclusives?

i guess they dont have a 360.. lol

[cereal_killa]

how can ppl be mad that micro buy's exclusives?

Ummm M$ bought DLC they didn't buy the exclusive rights to the entire game it's still going to be on the PS3. More wasted money to go with the $50 million on GTA DLC they ll never make back.

[chasegamez]

i have a modded one

[Raoh]

LOl even with the DLC GTA4 on amazon.com is selling better on the ps3 than the 360.

personally i dont like dlc.. expansion packs post 6 months of a games release is one thing but a mission or two here and there? or in tales of vesperia buying a level or magic? is just worthless and counter gaming..

oh and last remnant now wants you to buy battle formations?'

lmfao

whats sad also is while microsoft is buying this stuff.. i read in the last game informer that microsoft passed up on publishing crackdown 2 and the developer is looking for a publisher for the game.. everyone i know with a 360 loved crackdown.. and instead of bringing in a sequel to the 360 they would rather buy some dlc for tomb raider?

lol

[DaTruth]

If what you say is true, MS are the biggest a$$hole$!!!

[Ju]

Looks like they are not interested in which game, but specific games which have a strong heritage thru the Playstation brand. Looks like a strategy to me.

[Crazywhitie]

I don't know if this is one of those games you pay for... I haven't seen much on it but Wow Tomb Raider??

[DailyAddict]

Damn, and this comes only like a day after that other retard posted an article saying Microsoft's pockets weren't as deep as people thought. This game probably will fare like the last few Tomb Raider's and suck balls and yet MS felt it was important to spend cash on exclusive content? Now they are just getting sloppy with their money.

[fan_of_gaming]

but a demo?? wtf. so because i don't have a 360 i can't even try a game i was interested in maybe buying because I only have a PS3. thats dumb on Eidos's part imo. Lots of people only buy games after they've tried out the demo for it, and now we don't have that option.

[NegativeCreep427]

Blocking the option of downloading and testing out the game through a demo isn't even on the table for PS3 owners? I agree Eidos is nothing but idiotic for accepting that portion of the deal. PS3 owners like myself will not even give the game a fair shot now, which means total sales revenue for the title across all platforms will be much less than anticipated.

[juuken]

But it's business! :x
How can you argue with that? They don't care if you're a gamer. They only care to screw Sony and their fans over!

Oh yes, the force is strong with the dollar.

[DaTruth]

MS gets the honour of saying they sold the most copies. We all know how much that means to the b0ts.

[Ju]

I don't know if this even will make a difference. But its off my list now. Hope PS3 sales will really dunk on this one. Great job Eidos.

[ICUP]

Good to see company milking M$ money.

[air1]

but how do you know micro wont make the money back on gta4? incase you forgot there are quite a few million ppl on live, it's not like psn with a few thousand lol.. we dont even know what the dlc is so why dont you fall back b4 you end up kicking your self in the as$.

yes, the topic is about "exclusive DLC" i know that, you knew that so i didnt think i would of confused you by not putting "dlc"...

wasted money? how is it wasted? because it's not on the ps3? why would you even care if it is wasted? you never invested in it. you been to buisy waiting for sony to kick start the gen that wouldnt start till they said so. by the time sony gets big momentum ill be off to the next gen again.

[juuken]

With the economy is right now...not so quickly. x(

Microsoft clearly doesn't understand the value of money. Good for Sony to support 1st/2nd party titles.

[Xheratuul]

my brethren, why do the talk when you are one of the hated brethrens.

[thatCanadianguyisgay]

Good for Sony? sony hates your stupid american sluty ass

[cereal_killa]

but how do you know micro wont make the money back on gta4? incase you forgot there are quite a few million ppl on live, it's not like psn with a few thousand lol.. we dont even know what the dlc is so why dont you fall back b4 you end up kicking your self in the as$.

Yes Live has a few million people but how many of them are still playing GTAIV.... Who knows when this 1st part will be coming out M$ say this and R* say no it s this I trust R*s word b4 i trust M$ and even then when it does come out most people will be locked onto something else ie.. Gears, Fable.

[DreamcastFanboy]

That's Fu*king weak a demo? And i thought DLC was bad enough.

[juuken]

I knew it.
It was obvious.

[Raoh]

lol as far as the demo goes..

thank god for gamefly....

[felidae]

lol.

demo exclusive .. only on xbox 360

[Bathyj]

M$ would rather buy tacked on extra missions than invest in 1st party studios (and the future of the industry.)

Is it any wonder people like Sony more than them. I think alot of people will buy their product simply cause they want it so much but still despise the company and its not hard to see why. Bullies with money.

[VMAN_01]

This game won't make any more money for MS or Eidos just like GTA IV won't make nearly make back the 50 million bones MS put in.

[VMAN_01]

Yeah Sony is smart for putting the money into games that will actually stay truly exclusive e.g no PC versions unlike some companies that blantaly lie about exclusivivity.

[air1]

many sony fanatics say that all the 360 is a pc, so why not prot it to a pc? since micro makes most of the money off of pc's. seems like a smart move to me since micro has no other hardware out. i dont need 10 years of a buisness degree to know that.

hey jeewken,

well, if you wana throw in the economy then i guess the ps3 has no chance in catching the 360 since its double the price right? who cares if it has kz2, lbp, etc. parents do most the shoping in the holiday's gears 2, and banjo will cater to that same gamer at a cheaper price.

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edit

so you prove my point jeewken. if the ps3 can sell on amazon at double the price then why cant we have a next gen b4 the ps3 gets big, if ever..

when the next box comes out it will make the ps3 look out dated. who knows, maybe we might be saying blu ray discs? the next box might not have any disc limits cause there wont be any. micro is the leader in software i beleieve micro will do it b4 sony, i mean they just got psn going this gen lol..

now why dont you post up the npd numbers. hell, while you at it cause i know you gana bring it up whats the total for world sales? cause last i checked you ppl been yelling we catching up for over a year now...

[juuken]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/be...

TOP TEN, which means that despite the economy, PS3's are still selling. What, there's no 360 in sight! :x And most people would also think '...what a cheap piece of sh*t! I'll get something that's better value for my money.'

Now hush up.

[Man_of_the_year]

Sorry NegativeCreep....but Megatron is right and you are not...the title of the article says "Confirmed:Microsoft Paid Eidos for DLC and Demo Exclusivity" however there is noting in the article that states they made any kind of purchase nor any kind of payment. I don't see any Confirmation other than the quote you provided and that says nothing at all that MS paid for the DLC so where is the confirmation...

[NegativeCreep427]

It is clearly implied that is what occurred. If I am indeed wrong and Eidos is simply deciding not to provide the DLC over the PSN just because Microsoft said "Pretty Pretty Please" Then Eidos is one greatly-mismanaged company.

What benefit is their to Eidos for keeping the DLC exclusive to the 360 if Microsoft isn't even going to pay them for it??? If this is the case and Eidos is just doing Microsoft a free favor, then I seriously don't see the stakeholders in Eidos being exactly happy with such a huge example of mis-management.

[outlawlife]

who actually thought otherwise? how may companies are going to keep content exclusive to one platform without being paid?

common sense, common business

[NegativeCreep427]

but people like Man_of_the_year clearly don't have the common sense to see that.

[cmrbe]

Edios did it because they love MS //end sarcasm.

[eagles1990]

Confirmed:We already know..... :|

[jackdoe]

Well, kind of obvious. Developers don't make console exclusive DLC for free after all. Who would limit the amount of money you could make from a cheap additional map/costumes for free?

[XboxOZ360]

Well in fact, if you do read up on it, the MS user IS getting a decent deal out of it.

There are TWO additional chapters, not costumes or maps. The second DLC will add and additional 6 hours of gameplay. It will have an additional Playable character "Lara's Shadow" - hence the name of the Chapter. So all up, there's an additional 10 odd hours of gameplay . .yes, not much at all . .

I can not understand how Sony players can be at times. It seems perfectly fine if Sony do the same thing, and they all rave about it, but heaven above if MS Xbox-Div do it, or if an Xbox Fan says something remotely positive about some extra content THEY are getting that there fellow gamers on another platform are not getting.

If they do, there's all h.ell to pay - especially on this site. Which is a shame, as N4G started out as a damn sensible news portal. Now it's b=gotten to a space where 'certain' factions make it hard for many news items getting passed approval simply based on the platform, and make life hard for proper articles and allow gossip through over real news or commentary that discusses various news items.

I believe N4G are planning a huge shack up soon, and many users are NOT going to be happy campers, that's for sure, and personally, I can't wait actually.

MS paid for the extra content, so would Sony . . it's business, they all do it.

There is a sizable a=mount of content, so it would require a sizable fee for that content, Sony would have to pay the same fee if they managed to secure the deal.

Get over it . . it's called competition, and without it, all companies would be dissing out average stuff and you as the end user would be worse off than you are now.

Gaming has NEVER - EVER been better than it is now, and believe me, I know, I've been around it a LOT longer than many of you on here (check my bio and you'll see why). Many of you should be glad that Sony and MS are hammering it our between each other. You have more games now than you can even possibly buy, you have machines that do more than you even use them for, You have access to an online world that would not have happened if it wasn't for MS Xbox-Div . .!! Yes, that's right.

Sony Head Office stated back in 2001 that they believed there was NO FUTURE in online gaming, and that the whole Xboxlive thing would die within 18 months at best. Hello PSN, which is a damn fine network too. Thing is, you wouldn't have it if they were not in competition.

Wake up and smell the roses, instead of looking at the bloody footpath.

[demonddel]

WANT THEY PLEASE STOP POSTING STUFF TO HURT THESE CRY BABIES FEELINGS I MEAN THESE CATS ARE THE WORST I GET MY LAUGH ON ALL DAY PS FANS ARE SOME CRAZY CATS THEY EVEN BAN ME FROM POSTING WITH MY OPINION AND EXPOSING THEM FOR CRYING ALL THE TIME BUT KEEP ME LAUGHING DON'T STOP.

[Xlll]

pop goes your bubble

[JasonXE]

who is gonna buy this game anyway?

[Bathyj]

As of now, Xbox owners, because they think they're getting a great deal.

It might be sh*t but theres lots of it.

[HairyBrownSack]

Confirmed: M$ cares about us hardcore gamers more than FONY cares about you poor movie buffs! :)

[cmrbe]

If MS saved the money they spent on GTA4 dlc plus this. Retards like you would have more games than just Gears 2 to be crowing about.

[PirateThom]

So, Mirror's Edge DLC....

Not to mention, Sony have more GAME STUDIOS and EXCLUSIVE GAMES than Microsoft, but keep believing Microsoft care about gamers with their... 2 (is it?) game studios.

[SlaughterMeister]

jeez, i never took microsoft for being the kind of company to pull that kind of ruthless move.

[PirateThom]

I think the fact Microsoft paid for DLC and a demo exclusive for a game like Tomb Raider is pretty worrying. I'm not sure if it's because of the name, but it's a weird choice and it makes me think "out of touch".

In the late 90s, Tomb Raider was a HUGE franchise, but it hasn't been a relevent game since about 1999 and certainly not in the new millenium. Exclusive content then would have been a major deal, now it's just a complete mystery.

GTAIV. I understand, it's a huge franchise.
Fallout 3. I understand, because it's a cult classic
Tomb Raider? What are they really hoping to achieve? How much money did they waste on that?

They're closing down and outright losing first party studios, but can afford to pay for DLC for a series that hasn't sold over a million copies since Tomb Raider III, a 10 year old game?

[cherrypie]

"I think the fact Microsoft paid for.."

NOTHING.

THE TITLE IS TOTALLY MADE UP.

[PirateThom]

As noted, devs don't make content just because a platform holder asks them nicely.

Don't be naive.

[Ju]

The more I think about it, it doesn't even bother me any more. Sony invested in new original titles, not old rehashes. Like Resistance, Drake and Infamous, ...

[cherrypie]

Nice to know this site approves stories with the title TOTALLY FABRICATED FICTION.

And, the forum fills up with bullshat.

Hey, maybe we should get another LBP level or LBP key story?

This site is just broken.

[XboxOZ360]

Couldn't agree with you more on that one mate, and bubbles to you for saying it . . .

[psiom]

Good ol' money bags Microsoft.

I have a question for 360 gamers (and being serious here too):

Does exclusive 360 content make you happy?

I view exclusive DLC (for PS3, 360, both included) as an entirely negative thing.

There absolutely no benefit to gamers WHATSOEVER. Think about it. The game engine is already built, so you can't argue quality by excluding platforms. It simply means some gamers miss out.

Mirrors edge DLC shouldn't be PS3 exclusive either. It's just stupid.

So tell me honestly - how do you feel about it?

Not just Tombraider (which I think is crap) - but for all games and DLC.

Are you all for excluding us PS3 owners or would you rather let everyone enjoy?

[XboxOZ360]

I think you're missing the point of the whole exercise.

It's not only DLC, it's DLG (downloadable games). Both Sony and MS are fielding the userbase to see how things are going. They various developers and their publishers are testing the waters to see if a new business model will work or offer them a better leverage point over disc-based games or Extensions that would have normally come via disc-based means in stores - at a cheaper cost, yet still have the same production cost factor as a full priced disc-based game does.

Sony, MS and the PC will have the first 2 major full games being delivered via DLC only in March and April next year. Two games that will ONLY be available through XboxLIVE, PSN and Steam. Watchmen (check under "W" http://xboxoz360gamer.com/x... The developer of Watchmen has stated that IF this works, then that is how they may well be looking at doing all further games.

Also, Infogrames (aka Atari EU) under the guide of ex Sony figurehead Phil Harrison and he stated that they (Inforgrames) will be concentrating on DLC rather than Disc-based content from now on and working on a new business model that supports that. http://blog.wired.com/games... Now Phil Harrison was at Sony from almost day one of the Playstation 2's life to include Online play with the console, and it was one of the main reasons he left Sony as most of he thoughts were NOT being listened to, and his innovative and prudent ideas and thoughts were well founded I might add, but basically were ignored by Sony Games.

They are not the only Publisher to be considering that either. So while many here think this is about MS being the huge money bags they are (which they are, there's no getting around that), it's less to do with that, and more to do with testing new ways of delivering content and making their disc based games have a longer playable life span through DLC and also DLG's

[tate566]

Why would anyone, Eidos, let someone, M$, have something for free if they know that the entity theyre giving it to is gonna sell it?

Read between the lines folks. Of course M$ paid Eidos for the exclusive content.

[BrianC6234]

Does anyone even care about the new Tomb Raider game? I sure haven't heard much about it. Maybe it will be out when the 360 gets that extra DLC for GTA4.

[McLuvn]

not surprised, Lara Croft for the prepubescent loss.

[GUNS N SWORDS]

i'm reading all these posts, and all i see is childish comments.

the video gaming industry to every single company is business, that's all it is.

i'm fvcking tired of this, when news of vader was coming exclusive to ps3, ps3 gamers were rubbing it at 360 gamer's faces (very childish), and you know what even with that i still got the 360 version, i also found out that you can make CUSTOM characters that can look better than the bonus characters (with a little creation)

ps3 gamers were also saying that they were going to get the definitive version of bioshock( which is acting childish), just get the game and enjoy it, if you want it.

i as for this news, i was thinking of getting this title from the beginning, even if sony would have done the same thing i would have still got it, i'm a huge lara fan back when it was on the ps1.

[2paclives]

ms can have there demo and dlc...tomb raider is last gen. What a waste of money.

[gololo]

omg come on MS...u r paying money for DLC for Tomb f0okIn Raider???? The best was the 1st one and after that all of them were crap....maybe you should've kept that money in order to keep Ensemble alive, I was waiting for a new Age of Empires game (I spent so many hours with AoK...good days)

[Raoh]

yep its on page 31 of the october (#186) issue of game informer

"Crackdown 2 Update:

It was hard not to enjoy the freedom that the open world superpower game Crackdown gave to the players. But apparently it's hard for the sequel to find a publishing partner. Loose talk has heard Microsoft has turned down Crackdown 2. The first title was developed by Realtime Worlds, but the compnany is currently working on APB and not crackdown 2. The sequel is in production with a different development team. With microsoft no longer on board, we'll have to wait to see how the game comes out."

_____________________________ _

not that APB isnt an important title. you cant fault the developer for wanting to move on to something bigger or newer, look at zipper and other companies. but crackdown was such a huge success, not only financially but i think its fair to say that microsoft gamers hold crackdown dearly as a 360 exclusive franchise that they want for years to come for themselves and would like it to get the attention microsoft has giving to dlc.. with the money for dlc for gta4 tomb raider and battle formations for last remnant publishing crackdown or even developing in house would have been a slam dunk in sales.

i've ranted about square enix and others buying into microsfot bullcrap and this is an example.. once microsoft gets what they want or use you to hurt their competition they drop you or back stab you. just like they do on the pc software side of their business.

funny how after sitting down with marvel and that not working out, no more than a few weeks later cryptic announces a super hero mmo for the 360.. hmm weeks later..

not sure what happened there either since cryptic said they want to make champions online for the ps3..

[Funky Town_TX]

WOW this is N4G. Lots of reading between the lines. Lets see, the odds of me getting TR before DLC = 0. The odds of me getting it after DLC = 0. I don't see my m$ would pay money for this. Now if they give ad support for this then that would be what Sony did with Ps2 games right? This is big bad M$ so they can't do those things.

[jack who]

didnt farmboys say ms ran out off money? lolz

[Xlll]

They must have to go so low as to hope TR DLC will help sell 360's. When was the last time TR meant anything to anyone?

[CliffordM Bleszinski]

this is a bad decision by shane, don, and the boys. this could have gone for the funding of gears 3 which will be the best game ever instead of paying for DLC for a crappy game. this game will suck just like kane and lynch. gears 2 is 10 times better and everyone knows it.

[jetlian]

why do ps3 fans care and if you wanna be mad be mad at sony. they chose not to get exclusive content. MS paid for it.

it shouldn't stop you from getting the game. The real problem is your to worried about which system gets the better 1 and you don't wanna accept the answer

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

Your move Sony

[GameDev]

and Sony immediately fell over laughing.

[pumpkinpunker]

the laughter turned to tears as their stock fell more than 50% in less than 6 months:

http://finance.google.com/f...

Hey, maybe you should save up some of your lunch money and bail them out?

[Why o why]

lol. When did dlc become more sought after than exclusive games of which the 360 has only a handful. lol.

Keep your dlc and timed games. To the outside world it just seems like ms cant/wont invest on internal studios and need ex dlc to keep up the fight. Case in point that you feel this is some cunning chess play by MS.

[DARKTRINITYxxx]

LOL i dont think we need a news post to be told MS got thier wallets out for this exclusive DLC. Well im a PS3 owner and ill still be picking up this game on my PS3. XBOX360 has exclusive DLC and 2 exclusive games GOW2 and Fable 2 oh and dont forget thier upcomming childish avatars ripped straight from the Wii wich they think is gonna rival Home lol. A very feeble lineup is all the xbots have to get excited about this year. PS3 owners have Home when it finally arrives and some nice exclusive games and not to mention some nice multiplat games comming our way. Its going to be a good christmas this year for PS3 gamers if only we could say the same about the XBOX360 owners lol.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

It's not MS's fault that Sony is to f**king broke by sinking money into that pithole you call a PS3.

[demonddel]

man where have y'all been because every time i come on here and read these entertaining comments with the ps fanboy hogging up space crying about this or that i mean they even had the nerve to protest against capcom over dmc4 and square over ff13 i was starting to think this was a sony own site,dont worry though i own both system and im about to send my 360 in for repair and im bored as hell without it.

[JasonPC360PS3Wii]

?

[Calvin_ISA]

Uncharted 2 will kick this games' a$$ anyway. ;) Tomb Raider lost it's edge big time.

[jay3]

Companies give other companies money so they can get exclusives?

Like...Business?

My world is shattered.

[Eromu]

People still play Tomb Raider?

[evileric1976]

This game hasnt even come out yet. it could suck. if MS is willing to shell out for it (dont be naive)then so be it. even when they announced the DLC for GTA I wasnt too put off, i still bought the game. after playing it i really had my fill so who cares. MS paid tons of money for the dlc that isnt even out yet and even if i owned a 360 might pass up. I was at first put off by the dlc for fallout but after hearing its really only going to be about equal to knights of the nine for oblivion didnt really care too much. it might seem dumb that sony doesnt try to compete in this arena but you have to remember that sony does alot more with its first and second party developers and is probably spending its money to strengthen there rather than try to outspend MS to get third party dlc they have minimal quality control over. for all we know the stuff could suck. if it doesnt then great for MS and 360 owners. you just have to put it into perspective. the money sony isnt spending on third party dlc theyre spending on first party games and im sure ps3 owners will see that down the line. Personally I have no problem with MS throwing money at third party devs as these days the price of making games is atrocious and im sure every bit counts.

[Irishrocket69]

Where in the article it says that MS paid for EDLC, because I don't see it. My thought is that they knew they could sell more copies of X360 version, so it would make more sense to give them something extra, besides you PS-Tools are so arrogant that when you learn that something is not coming to the POS3, you exclaim that you didn't want it in the first place, and then go make the level on LBP! So sad, so sad indeed!

[i_like_ff7]

Microsft should use there money to back up their weak 1st party support instead of buying a friken demo exclusivity...

[Raoh]

lol

its not a sony fans vs ms fans

you too should be upset.. this DLC thing is real lame..

golden horse armor from oblivion

Why Grind When There's Tales of Vesperia DLC?
LV Up +10 (1) 300 Microsoft Points
LV Up +5 (1) 200 Microsoft Points
300,000 Gald (1) 300 Microsoft Points
Skill sets 80 Microsoft Points
HP Recovery Cuisine Recipe Set 100 Microsoft Points

The Last Remnant Offers Battle Formations As DLC

etc etc etc if this becomes a bigger trend then it only ruins gaming as a whole.. you as a 360 shouldnt be excited..

i'm not mad sony didnt try to out bid for dlc, sony is not shutting down potential studios and sony is continuing franchises while starting new ones

are you really saying that you would rather have microsoft spend money from LIVE fees on lame dlc for you to buy with instead of publishing games like crackdown 2 and starting up new ip's?

sony gamers arent mad about tomb raider dlc.. everyone should be mad at how microsoft is ruining games.

expansions are cool. but this dlc stuff is crap and xbox fanatics are paying for it making it more popular.. disgusting..

[gololo]

what they actually seld gald as DLC??? WTF, I played tales, finished and liked it...but selling items, gald and is just a slap in the face to gamers...I think DLC is becoming a problem for buyers but great for devs/console makers since they can keep getting money from us even after buying the "full" game

[Sky Sentry]

It's quite simple, we as gamers (be it PS3 or X360) should not buy games that we need to pay for DLC. Why should we spend $60 for half a game only to be suckered into making a DLC purchase for content that should have been part of the main game? Let unscrupulous game dev face our wrath for trying to milk our hard earned $$$. If we let the DLC trend continues by supporting them, what will be next? DLC for every game level/act/board including the game ending?

[JustinSaneV2]

So how many ignorant fools failed to even click the source link?

[SolidAhmed]

Microsoft being cheap

[Snukadaman_]

If all companies were doing this...there would be no outrage...I dont see the problem..especially since I own a xbox.

[Raoh]

your aware microsoft stock is dropping too right?

http://finance.google.com/f...

23.23
-1.68 (-6.74%)
Oct 7 - Close

Microsoft shares sink as Dow plunges below 10,000
http://money.cnn.com/news/n...

Investor blasts Microsoft's online strategy
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsou...

wanna post how much money microsoft dumped into those seinfeld commercials?

LOL

as for clicking the link yea we clicked the link, their words sound familiar to the comments made about bioshock being an exclusive then after it was let known that microsoft paid for that timed exclusivity and to keep it quite...

[Snukadaman_]

welcome to the 2008 depression kid.

http://www.sonyinsider.com/...
this story was even before the stock market drop as well.......

[evileric1976]

i dont own a 360 and dont feel the need to as i have a ps3. what im saying is that 360 owners really seem to like the dlc that MS is (dont be naive people) paying for so thats cool for them. I work with a guy who bought ToV and when he told me he paid for charchter levels i thought that was extremely lame. Personally though i really dont care what MS spends money on as i dont own a 360. I do think the cotumes and level nickel and diming is kind of lame though but thats just my opinion

[Snukadaman_]

Keep in mind..this raoh guy is nasim...you cant tell that guy anything but doom and gloom for m$ regardless if he owns one or not.

[Pika-pie]

What, you mean Eidos didnt do them for free???? I thought all companies did things for free nowadays.. Well, this changes everything!

[P_Bomb]

For everyone saying this is "no big deal because Tomb Raider sux", you gotta realise that just cuz you don't like it doesn't mean there's not two other people out there that do like it and can fill your spot, and might feel burned by this.

This is not good news for (at least some) PS3 players imo because it continues to take away PS3 players' choice on what they want or are willing to pay for in a multiplatform game to get their full satisfaction from it. A choice the competition has. XBox fans have the CHOICE to say no if they don't wanna buy DLC, no one's putting a gun to their heads and making them, but as a PS3 owner I don't have that choice on whether or not I feel like spending MY money on Fallout 3 DLC for example, or GTA4 DLC, or Tomb Raider DLC, or being able to play the COD4 map pack the same day as my friends can on XBox instead of waiting another freaking month. Even TNA Impact is now getting DLC on Xbox360 before PS3. Why?

It's even come down to exclusive demos of multiplatform games (Tomb Raider). Why? LOL at people who think Sony are doing their community a favor by not having a quarter the DLC perks that Microsoft offer for the exact same games. This does not benefit Sony, they're not saving us, there's no martyrdom here, it's a disservice to the people that wanted the best multiplatform experience on the most expensive console this gen that they chose over the competition.

Reality is DLC is here to stay, regardless of how people feel about it morally. Sony needs to get back on the horse and not turn this into another "people don't want vibration in their controllers" spiel. It's here, I have a PS3, I should be able to have access to just as many perks for my purchases as my XBox buddy who lives down the street and can play as the Hulk in Marvel Ultimate Alliance while I cannot.

[Jdoki]

I agree that choice is always good... but ask yourself this one simple question...

Would you rather have a stack of original fresh IP's, innovation, and quality products (such as LBP), or a load of DLC, 'me-too' games (like Scene It and Lips) and multi-platform titles?

I know I'm willing to trade up some GTA or Tomb Raider DLC for LBP, Killzone 2 and the many other franchises that Sony is investing their money in.

[LiquifiedArt]

IT STILL REQUIRES YOU TO PAY FOR IT. LOL.

[lonix]

they didnt want to do a demo for the ps3 because they made a realy CR@P port for the ps3 and they dont want to put the ps3 owners off buying the game even more after they just told us we wont get dlc

[lonix]

why is it that xbotfagboys cant have A decent argument so they say that the ps3's hardware is crap

i think that the xbox is a good machine but i wish that they werent made in malaysia or taiwan for about 50cents

[Why o why]

this game will get higher review marks than it should. Parts of the media are so transparent.

[CrimsonSaber]

yo MONEYSOFT. what a waste bro's
Boob Raider series is DEAD . Died out years back
you should invested in Hitman . or another studio
because Eideos is adios.

[Jdoki]

Y'know what, I'm getting tired of MS investing in pointless rubbish.

I said it in a post yesterday, but what is MS actually gaining from blowing 50mill on GTAIV DLC? Does it REALLY think it's going to shift more 360's because they have DLC for Tomb Raider?

50mill, plus the money they've paid for Fallout and Tomb Raider DLC could easily have funded a AAA title. Hell, if the original Gears of War was put together for 10million they could have invested in at least 5 new titles using the Unreal Engine!

This may be 'cutting off my nose to spite my face', but I'll be buying Tomb Raider on the PS3 instead of my 360. Sony may also buy some DLC, but it's not as bad as MS, and you only have to look at the innovative games and new IP's it's delivering to see that exclusive DLC isn't their main focus.

[Snukadaman_]

I Might even pass on this game though....but its cool if a company bends backwards to try to make their product different from another companys product....gives you more options to play a certain game..like all dlc is supposed to do.

[Horseymart]

It's a bit like a rich friend that no one likes,(some of you know what i mean) they mange to keep you around by flash money at you and buying you expensive gifts then spiting back in in your face by asking for it back. friendship isn't maintained this way and it will back fire!!!!!!!!!! as some of the x-box community have found out to the determent when a x-box console blows up in front of you, so it not big and isn't cleaver.

[robotnik]

Internet Trolling Expert submitted this, I dunno, I know he is an expert and all, but he is still a TROLL xD

[t_tocs]

MS spent so much money on DLC deals and exclusives, that now they are having trouble. They have a hiring block on their gaming portion of business only. MS Fanboys don't realize...MS doesn't love them as much as they think because XBOX gives them no revenue compared to what Vista/XP does.

...and paying for DLC for Tomb Raider? Could you pick a worse game?

[LiquifiedArt]

They are the Theives of the console industry. Always trying to "Steal" playstation's thunder rather then start up there own tempest of creativity.

$$$'s alone will NOT win you the LOYALTY of any gamer.
LOYALTY > Instant Gratification

[XboxOZ360]

DO grow up mate, The two companies are in competition with each other, so naturally they will BOTH try and get the upper hand when ever they can and in what ever way they can. You weren't singing the same tune when Sony grabbed exclusive DLC for Mirror's Edge . .. Which I'll miss out on, but hey, that's business, and how it works. Nothing will be gained by me complaining about it, same goes for the DLC for Tomb Raiders or GTA:IV or Fallout 3.

DLC will be the next issue invoilving sony and ms doing battle with regards to gaining more content for their platform supporters. And that's just business. It's obvious many here have not or are not involved in businesses or even at work in a position of authority - yet.

If they were, or did, they's understand the mechanics behind getting content for your customer base above the competition.

And naturally MS or Sony would pay fopr the content. Don't be so blinkered to think that Edios would GIVE the content to Sony if it asked. It would have to pay, just the same as MS did, and pay the same fees - IF it wanted to secure the deal.

Which after all, is what publishers (Edios) are in business for. Funny thing here is, no one is saying the same things about Sony (ie Mirror's Edge etc) or saying anything about Edios making the extra content for MS, it's just a mass pick on MS Xbox-Div hack-n-slash.

Be it SOny, Nintedno or MS Xbox-Div, they would all have to pay, and if they were quick enough Sony would have grabbed exclusive DLC for its platform supporters . .

Thing is, they weren't. They were with Mirror's Edge, and MS wanted to beat them (Sony) to the punch this time, so got in early . . simple as that.

Most likely, the next Exclusive DLC will come from Sony, but you watch, there will not be the mass outcry on these pages when they do, just praise and a lot of horn-blowing. And I personally won't begrudge them if they do, because it is business in the end, and a cut-throat one at that.

So stop dissing MS for the sheer sake of it, and look at things with wider eyes (or with out your Sony Blinkers on. I'm a "gamer" not a fanboi and support any company that makes good and swift business choices over its competition. Great that Sony grabbed Mirror's Edge etc, and great that MS grabbed Tomb Raiders Underworld.

And it isn't as if it's just some little extras either. It's two complete chapters, the second one adding an additional 6 hours of gameplay, as well as a new playable character. All that cost MONEY . . . $$$$ yes, money . .

[dkgshiz]

This game looks like a flop. As is every Tomb raider game. After the third one, these tomb raider games just flopped.

[Cynical-Gamerzus]

Ever since the Gaming industry started to go hi-tech MS has been blocking and thwarting all threats and efforts against them in all areas by using money to stop anyone from being more bigger than them .

MS this will ultimately work against you!!
And yes im sitting in front of an Ubuntu Linux machine typing this and next to it is a Mac and when I get home all my media is viewed and accessed on a Playstation3 XMB os Dashboard!

[XboxOZ360]

And thatis the case with allmajor businesses. I hate (dislike greatly) MS Corp and how it does it's business. I too write this on a MAC and use Word '08 on the mac as it's ten times better that MS's Word '07 for the PC . . We get a special one hehehe.

ANd Apple do their business and machines on a whole different level. But gaming is different. It's not computers systems or even OS systems. It's about a huge online service and disc-based service that both Sony, MS Xbox-Div and Nintendo are all fighting over.

All three will do what it takes to win. Sony will buy it's way into DLC if it has to, it already has, so will MS and so will Nifty-Nindy if it came to that.

While I agree with you about the computer platform per-se', I do see that the console competition is not the computer saga which rages across the world. One that MS is starting to feel the hurt from btw from the likes of Apple and Linux.

I too watch my mob=vies and Game clips on my TV via the 360 an dthe mac. Check my pics and music via the 360 which accesses my Mac, My Ipod Touch access my website, which I can load pis and vids to the site and then watch on the TV via the 360.

If it was a PC, I wouldn't be able to do that the other way around, even with bootcamp.

The guys that originally kicked the Xbox off were gamers first and foremost, they were game s=designers, programmers, and game owners. Not MS boffins. So I have a great deal of respect for those guys, because at the time, MS Corp were dead against there even being a Xbox gaming machine. They wanted a thing called WebTV . . and we would not have the games we have now, or Gears Too Human etc etc.

If it was up to MS Corp, at the time, there would be no competition for Sony at all. then were would we be . . still with the PS2 . . ? Because it is about competition. It moves the market and tech-head forward. Without it, innovation ceases to exist, and mediocre efforts are all that is expected of staff.

[thematrix1298]

I got GTA4 for my SRL lens trade. Honestly it sucks..I don't know why people were hyping this game. M$ basically shot their foot AGAIN with Exclusive DLC for GTA4. By the time content comes out....it will be dry. M$ is so dumb they can't invest on their own exclusive first party studio but buys exclusive DLC. Sony is smart invests money on first party studios. This shows the quality of people working at Sony/M$

[Sniper_amer]

was going to get this game on my ps3 but after this i wont support such act and will not buy it, just wish everyone who has a ps3 and feels me would do the same.

[Citizen Cook]

Thanks M$, i love tomb raider.

Play behind, droids...

[mirroredderorrim]

This changes nothing. DLC is crap anyway. I rarely see anything WORTH adding on to a game, let alone charge more than 99 cents for it.

I can see this DLC as significant because it adds to the game. But if the game does not garner the popularity it needs to take advantage of that DLC.. it will be for nothing. Kind of what people are saying about GTA IV DLC.

Sh!t. I'll rent Tomb raider. I only played the first one, which was my first game for PS1. My 2nd game was Resident evil..

I miss those days..

[Ps3Fanboy777]

LOL... Its funny to watch Microsoft go down in burning flames. Every part of their business is doing pretty bad. Better hope all this is worth it cause last I looked, Apple, Linux, Open Office are all gaining ground why M$ is out there buying stupid DLC that is rather worthless other than for fanboys to make stupid posts on this stupid site.

Get a life..

[Raoh]

@ Snukadaman

i've never made it a secret that i dislike microsoft. as a tech for my company i've also switched to supporting apple over windows.

i gave their 360 a try. i had alot of fun at first. you can check my xbox live gamertag

LORD RAOH

with the space in between

at first i decided to buy all three consoles. bought the 360 first because everyone kept telling me it had the most games and was cheaper.

larger library? yes

cheaper? no

after buying wifi and charge cable and live subscription it cost the same as my ps3 did later on that year. so the price on the surface was a lie. (not to mention i was scratching my head why there was no hdmi) hell even the wii has wifi

then i got hit with loud fan noise, over heating and the dvd drive scratched a few of my discs to the point that they were unplayable. good thing gamestop takes anything cause microsoft is aware of the problem but only replaces microsoft published games.

that was 2 months after i bought the console.

3 to 4 months later the same issues come back. i had warranty from the store so i replaced it at the store with a new one, this time i waited until their old non hdmi consoles were cleared off the shelves so i could buy one with hdmi and hopefully better fans and dvd drive. during this time i bought a ps3 while i waited for the hdmi-less 360's to be gone from the shelves.

finally got my 360 replaced, while it seemed to not scratch my dvd's and it was less hot, it was louder than ever. a month after xmas i traded in my 360 for a second ps3.. best decision i ever made.

that made it three 360's in under a year

yeah there are a few games i would like to play. gears 2, left 4 dead, tales of vesperia. but thats not enough to make me get a 360 again.

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when i hear about all the dlc and timed exclusive crap microsoft pulls its terrible.

dlc for fallout 3, tomb raider, gta4 doesn't bother me. i'm not buying the dlc anyway. i haven't even bought dlc for my ps3 games. the only dlc i've ever bought was the heroes and villains pack for marvel ultimate alliance on the 360. but levels? formations? content for a game that we may not want content for?

when i hear that companies want to give customers free/cheap dlc and microsoft wants to charge. i cant believe microsoft fans defend the option to buy over getting it for free.

which again nothing disgusts me more than having to pay for online. i pay my isp. i bought a game with online enabled content. to play via my online ready console only to be told i have to pay a fee again?

sorry to the live fans, but the small fee is not worth the matchmaking that could be done for free. then i need another gold account to play with someone at home on multiplayer/co op? no thanks..

so yea. again i make no apologies that i think microsoft is a terrible software company that makes shoddy software, devours the competition only to release a sloppy copy later and has injected that same strategy on to the gaming world.

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back on topic, dlc/expansions should be something considered for games that came out and are successful and the consumers want more reasons to continue playing. dlc for a game not out yet is just nickel and diming.

[memots]

Not only do you pay to use the service but your paying more for the same content. You forgot to mention that every single download on xbox live is more expensive.

Example: COD variety map pack 9.99$ on psn . Xbox live 800point (100point = $1.50)= 12$
--

Rockband
Blood sugar sex magic . 19.99$ on PSN, Xbox live 1600 point= 24$
About 3 to 5$ more per album for , 50 cent+ more on single song. + you cant share any of your download.
On PSN I have 2 brother in law whom i share all my song with.
They Buy what i didn't buy and i get it from from them.
We got over 180 downloaded song, but i personally paid for about 80 of them. We pay equally.
Only one of us bought Megaman9,StardustHD, Blast factor , the last guy ect... and we are all playing those game. then top it all with none of us have to pay to be able to play with each other online

Don't get me wrong i do like my xbox360 and i like some feature xbox live has ( in game chat is awesome ) but i think Ms is working hard on screwing us from every single penny you might be worth and i don't agree with it.

By making a console starting @199$ is great but you are required to spend a lot more money on everything to get a good experience. I tell people to buy a ps3 for many good reason.. But i'm not here to flame just making a point.

Rock Band Fan?

Check out www.deathbyrhythm.com

[aggh im on fire]

Im really looking forward to this. Uncharted was to much shooting not enough exploring for me and the DLC is very welcome. I was getting the 360 version anyway but wouldn't even consider the ps3 version now.
Am i bothered about paying for the DLC.. no. This was made especially for the market place ( unlike some content) and wouldn't have been made otherewise. Companies don't do this extra stuff for free you know, they have to get paid.
If you don't like it don't buy it.. simple.

[Daz]

ms spending there money to get exclusive good content for people to enjoy and they are hated. how sad.

[Lord Vader]

Good point.

But only hated by the Sony fanatics.

[Dark General]

Eidios my once most favorite game company (until the gamespot thing). I honestly don't care about Tomb Raider they should just get back to making Deus Ex 3.

[wazborn]

M$ thnks for making my game fun worth while.... dont u guys love it wen daddy spends money on u ... its sweet daddy MS is going to get sweet gifts for us ... sweeeeeettttt more games more fun... yo.. my cozins on the sony end.. tell ur dad to spend money on u... he might...(pray hard)