Should PLAYERUNKNOWN’S BATTLEGROUNDS Players Really be Banned for Stream Sniping?

PLAYERUNKNOWN’S BATTLEGROUNDS. One of the hottest contenders for the most played games on Steam (or maybe, it is the most played game on Steam, sorry Valve!). There are several problems to the game, most of which are related to the performance, and due to its relative instability. However, those stuff are really understandable, as the game is an Early Access title, but they need to be fixed as quickly as possible, considering the huge player base. However, if performance issues are bothersome, the fact that the developers trust streamers and other influencers more than the average Joe playing their game is even more so.

[ziggurcat]

what is stream sniping? I didn't quite understand what the author was saying in trying to explain what it was.

[Neonridr]

so basically say you are a twitch streamer playing PUBG. You have a live stream showing you playing the game and I am a random player. I come across you in a game and then I load up your livestream which will show me exactly where you are. Then I take you out. Should that be considered cheating because I had an unfair advantage?

[ziggurcat]

Ahhh... okay, that's sort of what I thought it was - it's kind of like the old days with split screen MP where you just looked at your opponent's side of the screen...

[Neonridr]

exactly.. and that wasn't considered cheating. That was a skill. That was my thing in the Goldeneye days :P

[freshslicepizza]

I thought it was just random people purposely showing up to shoot the person streaming. It didn't even occur to me to be watching the stream and playing at the same time to target where they are. I would say there is something wrong with that.

[InactiveUser]

It's the streamers choice to broadcast their position to the world. If they're the ones reporting people for banning, they are scum.

[InactiveUser]

Multiplayer on PC is a joke anyway. Aimbots, seeing through walls, etc. Marcos.. Different input devices, frame rates, resolutions, wider viewing angle. You have people that do things like Foliage: Off so they see people behind cover.. If you think PC multiplayer is at all an even playing field to begin with, you haven't put any thought into it..

[Pro_TactX]

@Neonridr

I would argue that it’s not an unfair advantage, because the information is available to everyone in the match, if they choose to also look at the stream, and the streamer voluntarily provides that information to anyone who chooses to obtain it.

That actually seems pretty fair to me.

[nowitzki2004]

Watche Forsen clips on youtube.. best example

[bluefox755]

Seems like more trouble than it's worth.

[xX-oldboy-Xx]

Of course they shouldn't be banned. Soggy biscuits Mr Streamer, banning someone should be for using aim bots and other dodgey cheats - not for this.

I think it's hilarious.

[Yohshida]

Lets think about it:

Steaming is the reason PUBG is what it is today, the amount of success they have is thanks to streamers like DR. Disrespect, Shroud, Summit1G and many more. They didnt market the game at all and so this is their biggest marketing strategy. The Rules they that steamsniping is not allowed and it hurts their marketing = makes sense.

[Goldby]

Sorry man, people could out delays on their stream, hide important information from viewers like the map.

That's like some one yelling "I'm over here" and then when they die they call cheating.

They chose to release their location via streams why not take advantage of that

[OMGitzThatGuy]

Its not just a one kill situation, it's leaving games and reentering just to get into a lobby with the streamer, avoiding all other players just to kill the streamer, immediately leave the game to join the stream again just for a joke. It makes the game looks bad because you can't enjoy the game and the audience sees dumb shit. And they often do block the game until they land on the ground and blocks their map and that doesnt help. Blaming the stream snipers on the streamer is like blaming a woman being raped for wearing certain clothes.

[OffRoadKing]

I thought there was a significant enough delay between real time in game and what was on the stream that it wouldn't give someone an advantage?

[OMGitzThatGuy]

In a game like pubg where you have to camp sometimes, a 10 second delay is nothing and adding an extra delay just to combat stream snipers and ruin interaction with the audience is stupid.

[OffRoadKing]

But is it as stupid as people who choose to stream their gameplay and then cry like little girls when someone uses that to their advantage?

[ninsigma]

How do you even know if someone has stream sniped you??

[Razzer]

I believe they can tell if you are watching the stream and that you logged into the streamer's game at the same time. And if you snipe him at that point......it is assumed you used his stream to find his position. I think that is the jist of it.

Either that or PUBG operatives break into your house and get fingerprints off your mouse and match them against the weapon used.......

[ninsigma]

So they're monitoring your other traffic??

[Razzer]

Good point. I’m not sure they are monitoring or if they just investigate if a stream snipe is reported. Then again, if I’m just watching a stream and not logged into it.....how would they know I did it? Or how do they tie it back to my pubg account?

[ninsigma]

Yeah those are my thoughts.

Just read this article here to get insights on it: http://www.pcgamer.com/stre...

One streamer found that their losses were consistently at the hands of the same player tag, every night. So I guess banning is happening based on how frequent a player kills a streamer over a period of time, which makes sense I guess and actually sounds better than what I thought was happening (streamer days and cries about it being stream sniped with no proof). So i guess data is their source of figuring out.

[OMGitzThatGuy]

It isn't just tied you your Twitch log in. If for example you get killed 5 games in a row by the same guy, you report them and the system sees as soon as they land they head directing across the map directly into you and leaves the game as soon as they kill you and do it over and over again, it raises red flags.

[Iloveherliezz]

I think it should be encouraged. Like a contract with a reward for eliminating said player. Like you're hunting your target. Obviously stream snipping isn't the right way to implement this though. At the same time they shouldn't be banned for it either.

[OMGitzThatGuy]

So they shouldn't be banned for doing something, for hours, that are against the rules? There are games with streamer interactions that makes the games harder, this isn't one of them.

[Lon3wolf]

How about putting a delay on your stream? As said elsewhere it is no different to looking at the other players screen when playing split screen, either put a delay in or deal with it.

[OMGitzThatGuy]

So ruin timely interaction with your audience to TRY to stop someone from doing something that is against the rules when it is better to report them and have them banned. They arent banned because a streamer reported them, they are banned because their anticheating system found evidence that it was occuring. And a delay doesnt really matter unless you are doing 4-5 minutes delays in a game like PUBG when you are constantly using time by looting or having a 1v1.

[Lon3wolf]

Then they will need to put up with the fact that this will keep happening, I'm really not saying that it is right but rather it's just the way it is.

[OMGitzThatGuy]

That's like saying just put up with Isis and do nothing. If you break the rules of someones game, they have the right to ban you. It's simple to not watch someone's stream and just play the damn game.