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Gameplayer: FIFA vs. PES – The Great Debate

The football debate reaches fever pitch...

Gameplayer: As regular as clockwork, that time has come again where football fans the world over must make the call on which simulation of their favourite sport, FIFA or Pro Evolution Soccer, to invest in. For the better part of this decade, the choice has been quite easy with Konami's PES providing a far superior gameplay experience. But this year EA and their FIFA game have made some great improvements to their title that has rattled the faith of even the most hardened PES fanatic.

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Yi-Long5682d ago (Edited 5682d ago )

... ever since ISS on the SNES I've been a konami football fan. I LOVE Pro Evo. I STILL play Pro Evo pretty much every day.

That said, Konami isnt getting my money this year. Most likely, it will go to EA for Fifa, or I'll skip it completely this year.

Why isnt Konami getting my money!? Simple. This is 2008 now. And Konami is still serving us a souped up last-gen game.
Everything is fine, but not great. They STILL dont have the licenses we want. They STILL havent fixed many of the small problems we have with the game. They STILL have the crappy menus and such.

It just seems like Konami is lazy, or that they dont REALLY care. They know it will sell. And they're right, PES2009 will once again sell well.

However, not to me. I'm not spending 60 euros on a poor effort like this. They dont DESERVE it. They havent done enough. This new game isnt WORTH 60 euro.

I'm not saying Fifa is a better game. TBH, I'm not so sure about that. What I do know is that EA HAS improved tremendously over the last few years! They HAVE made an effort. They DO deliver a finished and polished next-gen game.

Konami hasnt, and just for that, I'll be skipping PES2009. Konami really needs to get their act together. Cause the way the PES series is going, the fans are all slowly moving over to see what EA has to offer them instead.

barom5682d ago

EA has improved tremendously because Fifa sucked when PES got released. They have the ability to improve. So the game will improve exponentially, while PES has reached diminishing returns and even if they were to put more resources into it they wouldn't be able to improve much more. In other words, it's easier to go from nothing to something than from almost everything to perfection.

PES, apart from the glitches and bugs and frame rate issues of PES 08 is actually flawless in terms of gameplay. There's no way they can improve much more unless they do a complete overhaul which won't keep the fans happy. Now they're doing this "Become A Legend" thing which actually might add something. After all when we play soccer on the field we're just one person and hopefully PES 09 will be able to capture that.

Also after playing the PES 09 demo, a lot of the issues have left. I saw no frame rate issues and no bugs and improved graphics. Although AI seem to be a bit more stupid somehow but it could be I just haven't played for a long time.

Regarding licenses, EA's wallets are just way too big. They aren't able to compete with that so I'm not gonna bug them on that. I did hear that they were almost able to grab the license of a whole league (Germany? I'm not sure).

Also I believe PES 09 will include trophies (and maybe custom-soundtracks too if I'm not mistaken) for the PS3, so it's not like Konami is not willing to put in more resources for small things.

season0075682d ago

but please tell me what are the problems of PES 2009

I've been playing Winning Eleven Since 5 or 6 on Playstation 2
Back before that i always ignored the game because it didn't react fast enough and it was always frustrating

PES 2008 wasn't a good one, the online sucked, the framerate sucked, gameplay wasn't the top notch...but then PES 2009, while i have only played the DEMO on PC and PS3, i do feel the different

The dribbling(or maybe you can say special move) is changed, now you just have to hold R2 and you do whatever you want and it catches what you want to do... More organization indeed is needed so you don't just run pass players score with one body balance type players...framerate is much improved and while i don't know how is the online yet, I would hope that it does improve and i can finally battle FOOTBALL lover all over the world...

You care too much about liscenses is PLAIN stupid, it is all about MONEY, not gameplay, if they can't afford it, they can only improve the game again and again so they make more money and finally acquire the TEAM JERSEY we want....o yes and what are the small PROBLEMS?

WTF is with CRAPPY menus?
I have no problem accessing every little thing to set with the team in the menu, and as always after you set it once you can save it to Option data and you can save MULTIPLE TEAM setup in one option data file...so i don't really see where are the little problems you are getting...well

yes, everyone can yell

alfredoggy5682d ago

I am definitely not the voice of reason, but, I've become accustomed to FIFA's gameplay and style. I will probably stick with the franchise and I am excited about their upcoming title. Can't wait to meet you guys on the pitch.

danzor5682d ago

gota tell you guys fifa09 is amazing, this years fifa owned pes seriously

badz1495682d ago

hoping for a better choice next year! FIFA08 still got a lot of my playtime

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Is Anybody Out There?

GamingLives mourns the decline of socialising in online games and explores why.

" If an individual wants to include a social side to their gaming, they must now do so in dedicated communities, gaming clans and guilds, or by restricting themselves to their own friendship groups. No longer can it be found in our everyday experiences of the games we play online."

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TotalSynthesisX4105d ago

The reason why no one chats in-game anymore is because of three types of people:
1) The assholes that take the game too seriously and insult anyone that's better or worse than them,
2) The trolls that do nothing but teamkill or play loud, obnoxious music through the mic, and
3) The prepubescent snot-nosed children that are a mix of everything above.

If gamers actually had respect for one another and did their best to keep a clean competitive online environment, then maybe more people would be willing to plug their mics in. The odds of that ever happening, though? Slim. Very slim. It's a fact that being an anonymous entity online gives people a scapegoat to be immature; it gives them a mask to hide behind, and it's common for gamers to abuse that anonymity. Half of the stuff gamers say to each other while playing a game, they would never say face-to-face. Try going up to a random person at a gas station or shopping mall and call them a "d***-sucking f***** n*****" or talk about their mother. Odds are they'd deck you in an instant. But online? There's nothing they can do. It's essentially a Get Out Of Jail Free card.

It's a sad reality, but that's just the way it is -- and as much as we want it to change, it probably never will.

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Football games: Worth every penny or a total con?

TGC writes: There are those that like to argue whether you are a Fifa gamer or a Pro Evolution Soccer gamer. I’m going to take it one step further and say your either a football gamer or a non football gamer. The fact of the matter is a new game comes out every year with possibly the slightest difference from the previous game and they release it onto the shelves in quantities thinking that they’ve made something new and improved. I really think they should hold a prize for anyone who can spot the difference between FIFA 09 and FIFA10 because I’m really struggling.

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showtimefolks4281d ago

I use to buy every sports game I was interested in madden,MLB,nba and wwe along few others and I remember buying playing for few days than thinking why I paid full price for this. Than one year about 4 years ago I said no more and I have never bought another sports game at launch sometimes I do buy me when they $20 on craiglist of sale but that's barely

IMO sports games don't do enough to justify a fully price and that's just my opinion

If 2k can sell nfl 2k5 for $19.99 and make a profit than why are games today with less content are selling for full 60? No wonder why EA ran to nfl and bought the exclusive rights

FIFA
Nfl
Nba
MLB
Wwe
NHL
Etc,

Sports games shuld be every 2 years and in between dlc and more updates and stuff like tournaments

berndogskate4281d ago

If people are willing to buy them then whats the problem? i think its cod or mw123 you should be talking about, the new pes and fifa look good this year.

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The Scourge Of Odd Numbered Gamerscore

There's no doubting that Gamerscore has been a phenomenal success for this generation of consoles. Microsoft's scoring system has proven to be an addictive mechanism that has incentivised gamers to keep playing even when a game is completed. So much was its success, that Sony even got into the act with the belated introduction of Trophies.

But if there's one thing we hate more than anything else, it's those odd-numbered achievements that mess up your score. Here's our pick of five of the offenders

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